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I just tanked up w/ 17gallons of processed and oxygenated Brontasaurus (now with Techron!), in Mochavan, at lunch <much needed content>.
Hey, what is this? I'm seeing alot of old timers around here...
Did you get the S-plan price *AND* the dealer/customer cash rebates ? (like the $2000 rebate)
Did the dealer show you the detailed invoice price breakdown of the vehicle ? Can you post the figures here ?
I think the FordPartner site listed the S-plan price as the E-plan (Mazda Employee Price)+ 4.5%. Is that true ?
Yes, we got a breakdown of the figures.
Invoice Amt.
$20,888.00 before options
$24,819.00 after options including $520 Transportation
Retail Amt.
$22,600.00 before options
$27,085.00 after options including $520 transportation fee
Under the S-Plan we paid
$24,367.00
$452.00 under dealer invoice
Now I'm not sure if you are trading in anything but they didn't want to give in much on the trade in. We got $1,800 for my Villager. It was a '95 with 103,000k on it. I could have gotten a little more selling it myself but it's such a hassle.
If you need anymore info. just let me know.
Lsinc
I think on paper, it's going to all total back up to the MSRP so that the dealership get's the balance from the Ford Partner Recognition Program.
I hope I'm making sense? The bottom line is, yes the $2,000 is deducted off of the S-Plan amount.
My brain is smoking from all of this. LOL!
Lsinc
Lsinc
I sounds like your car has not made it on the boat yet. Be sure to check back with Corp in a week as they suggested. It sounds to me like when car is placed on the boat you are looking at 6 weeks before delivery...
Good luck
TJ
It is well worth the wait...
TJ
Picked up my new 2003 MPV ES today but there is a story behind this car. For 13 years I drove a caravan, now don't be DC bashers I never had a lick of trouble with that van. When I sold it in Nov 2002 it had 120K miles and all the original "engine" parts with the exception of the water pump (replaced twice) the battery and the fuel pump which was just replaced July 2002. That car was very very good to me but I took very good care of it.
I was on the car hunt and got a Honda CRV LX early November 2002 and paid $18,3K for it, cash. I quickly realized that I missed my van and the HONDA was to small. After putting a dog crate in the back it was almost like driving with bigger blind spots than I already had. About two weeks ago I decided it was time to get rid of the Honda started looking around at vans.
Sienna...to "chunky" and bigger than what I needed and WAY OVERPRICED, those Toyota people are insane. Honda also a bit bigger than I needed, Dodge, Chrysler, GMC ect...no way. Then I came over to this board and after some research and reading the posts I decided on the MPV. Test drove one Thursday and liked the way it handled more so than the others. Not to big not to small just right.
I e-mailed a couple dealers who were quoting me about $15,5K for the honda as a trade...FAT CHANCE, I'll sell it outright. But one dealer was quoting me $17,000 so I wasn't about to argue. Went down to visit him today and he said he would give me $18K for it, it only had 4162 miles on it, I'm choking just about now but kept my mouth shut. Filling out the paperwork he goes and talks to the sales manager come to find out the used car guy quoted him the wrong trade in price by "accident" the other day WOOPS!!!! It should have only been $15,5 hehehehe -VERY good for me VERY bad for the dealer. At that point I figured they were going to throw that deal and the $18K right out the window. Nope the guy said that is what he quoted me and that is what he was going to give me. By this time the fleet guy looked like he wanted to throw up, I was there ready to hand him a trash can because about now he needed it. Instead of the consumer getting hosed the dealer had the tables turned on him. I figured anyone that came in after I left buying a car was going to pay A LOT of money for it, to make up my difference. On his computer screen he was actually at a -$330 negative on my van. Anyway in my garage now sits a
2003 White Mazda ES
7 psgr - leather everything
Front/real air, power driver seat
17 inch alloy whls
Crappy Dunlop tires (god I hate Dunlops)
6 CD changer
Power moonroof, power sliding side doors
4 Seasons Package and all the other bells and whistle, power this power that yada yada...
MSRP'd at - $29,120
Paid Invoice - $26,795
Tax License fees ect $2,200
Rebate $2000
Trade in $18,000 (hehehehehe)
Put $5,000 down
Financed around $4000
Payment $125.00
The salesman is going to have nightmares about this deal for a loooooong time. One more thing I LOVE MY NEW VAN!!! ZOOM ZOOM.
The Dunlops aren't that bad. I was considering changing them but so far so good. We are just over 3,000 miles on our LX. I do like the way they handle.
Anyway, happy trails!
Lsinc
Zoom-Zoom!
Steve, Host
1. How much oil would this van take for an oil change(I change the oil myself). I estimated about five quarts.
2. Has any one have to have a duplicate key made by the dealer(Is this the only place that can make the duplicate), the key has a micro chip in it. I called the local dealership and they said $105 total for the key and programing it for the van(this sounds like highway robbery).
Sorry for the long post. By the way, my wife and son loves the van. Now they both want to have a DVD/TV for the van.
I passed and went to Wal-Mart instead hoping to just get a "door" key cut. When the clerk saw it, she asked if it had an immobilizer and I said yes. She said she couldn't copy the immobilizer but I said I wanted it anyway. I just wanted an extra key that I could use to unlock the doors in case I lock the keys in the car. She said she'd try but when she put the key in some gadget, it "beeped" to tell her there was a Philips microchip inside and she COULDN'T copy it.
I went back to the dealer and after some haggling, he agreed to make me a key for $40 (i.e. "free" programming). No bargain but that's the price of having the immobilizer. So I guess the answer to your question is yes, only the dealer can do it.
-Brian
I'm not real up on ordering vehicles and I may be repeating advice someone else gave so I apologize in advance. Have you gotten the vin # yet? Have you been emailing Mazdausa or calling them on the phone? I would try calling them if you haven't already. As far as the dealer goes, I would think that they can find out more information for you then they are. Bug the $#$% out of them if need be.
If I hear of any other tips from folks that have ordered cars before, I'll let you know.
Keep your chin up kid! =o )
If nothing else, they might just drop in some freebies when you actually get the vehicle due to the enormous amount of stress this delay has caused !!
As far as I know, the dealership network has info about all vehicles (en-route & on other dealer lots). Either they really do not know or they are not trying hard enough (?) - Beats me why they would try to avoid answering simple questions like "Why is my vehicle today ?" !!
I hate it when buying a car that you have to choose from the LOT Queens. These are first built buggie picked overs, and you never get what you really want. When I lay out that kind of money I want what I want.
Lots of dealers will not order cars. They don't want the hassle and want to move the Queens. When you order your car you know you are getting the latest bug fixes.
Mazda had gone to great lengths to allow the customers order cars so you can get what you want and need. Yes there is a problem with instantious communtion, but most dealers have a hard time finding someone who can use the computers. Car sales is something computer people avoid.
I didn't think about a date on my car until the ninth week. Mazda said my car would be delivered at the dealer in 11 weeks and it was....
Hang in There it is worth it....
Love my MPV
TJ
We also complained to the Mazda 800 number, and they mailed us a $75 gift certificate for parts/accessories. I'm saving it for when my wireless headphones break...
Now that my heart is broken...sob, sob, sob.....because you are calling my MPV names.....sob, sob, sob......I'm going to go..............DRIVE IT! Zoom-Zoom! ;o )
I go now!
Lsinc
P.S. I really don't care if it's damaged during shipment. The dealer will make it perfect before I accept it and they'll be giving me a loaner vehicle if they need to keep it for repairs.
Sorry about that.....
TJ
http://www.mazdasouth.com is one site for Mazda parts.
Oil capacity of the '02+ MPV is 5.5 quarts.
-Brian
Lsinc
Zoom-Zoom!
-Brian
acedriver....The consumer was warned that these types of delays are common with japanese factory orders... the delays are due to mazda, not the dealer. The dealer can do nothing whatsoever to get it shipped any quicker. Once the order was accepted by Mazda the entire deal is OUT of the dealer hands.
you come in my store making those types of demands and I would gladly cancel the order and tell you to hit the trail.... How would this get you van any sooner? If it was something the we, as a dealer did wrong, blast us...but to make noise concerning non dealer related delays is absurd.
If it is made known in advance that my order is going to take time and I ordered it knowing this fact, there is really nothing to crib about :-)
Automotive news is reporting that the carmakers are working very hard on a transportation contingency plan...due to the potential truckers strike that is currently looming.
bottgers.....I will pass along details as I get them.
Steve, Host
We do the paperwork tonight.
Mark. : )