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Would you buy your vehicle again?



  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,600
    edited March 2010
    Sorry. but I intended to say mpg instead of mph. However, you understood that my question related to mileage, and essentially responded that, while you value fuel economy, the AWD feature is worth a loss of approximately 2 mpg to you.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    edited March 2010
    Yes, and that's only because there are no rear-drivers available that I would like under $30K. They are all two-seat sports cars with crappy gas mileage except the Miata, which I can't fit in (and its lack of a back seat would still limit its appeal as my weekend car).

    A 125i with four doors and a 4-cyl engine for around $25-27K would be the only car on my list if it existed. As it is, I went cheaper and settled for AWD. The new Subaru/Toyota RWD coupe which should be around $25K and have a proper back seat has me interested, if/when it finally appears (still a couple of years out).

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,600
    Thanks for elaborating. The two Subarus that I've driven drove and rode well.
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,782
    '85 MB 380SE - Oh hell yes. 260K miles with only the minimal expected repairs (except the one caused by the fact that I mistakenly thought that timing chains were forever).

    ''01 Jag XK8 - Yes. It's comfortable, it's been fairly dependable, and it still smells good inside. Besides, its predecessor (a '99) saved our lives in an almost head-on collision.

    '03 Corvette - Probably. It's a piece of c**p, but it's a fun piece of c**p.

    '09 BMW 335i - Uh, I'll tell you in a couple of years after I know how many fuel pumps are going to go south on me.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv, 2001 Jaguar XK cnv, 1985 MB 380SE (the best of the lot)

  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    The Maybe is a 2010 Honda CRV 2 WD. I bought it as a business driver. Its a very nice vehicle, but, I'm finding that, on business trips, Its fuel economy is far less than expected.

    My other car is an 06 Jaguar S-Type VDP. I bought it as a CPO car off the local dealer over a year ago, and, it's been a delight to own. Although it's got a 300 HP V8 under the hood, it smokes the CRV on both fuel economy and performance.

  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,277
    Again, the mileage will improve once the engine is properly broken in at around 10 - 15k. :)
  • berriberri Posts: 7,727
    We've got a CRV - don't expect great mileage, particularly on the highway. The CRV is alright, but I think it reflects the over hype that Honda gets. In reality it is kind of tinny, noisy and bouncy and I've had several issues with it as it aged. It does have a decent interior. There are certainly worse vehicles, but personally we wouldn't buy another one, especially at the price premium they get for it.
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    Its got close to 10K on it now. I have little confidence that the fuel economy is going to improve any significant amount when I'm running interstate speeds just over 70.

  • oldharryoldharry Posts: 413
    05 Impala, certainly, for the deal I got last time or better.
    94 C-1500 probably, I think I am about to buy a 2001 K-1500 if the deal is as good as it seems.

    I have owned a number of GMs a Ford, several Chryslers, a Honda, and a Packard.

    I would not buy that Honda again, it was purchased new in 1977, but having worked on all brands for four decades, I know that Hondas are a lot better now.

    The rest of the vehicles I would buy again if I knew then what I know now, but I would not buy the same car today for my daily driver that I had fifty years ago for a daily driver.

    I drove a customer's A-6 V8 a couple years ago, and had to grab my handkerchief to keep from drooling on his fine leather seats. Those are a bit out of my budget, however. :)

  • fezofezo Manahawkin, NJPosts: 10,330
    I drove a customer's A-6 V8 a couple years ago, and had to grab my handkerchief to keep from drooling on his fine leather seats. Those are a bit out of my budget, however.

    You and me both! A friend on mine has an A8. Sigh.
    2013 Mazda 5 Grand Touring, 2010 Toyota Prius IV. 2007 Toyota Camry XLE, 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999 Mazda Miata
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 5,126
    edited March 2010
    92 Accord - Heck yes. Back when Accords handled well and were not so huge. A fabulous car.

    94 Villager - Absolutely. Interior was put together poorly by our Ford friends, but the Nissan engine/tranny were flawless for 227K miles.

    98 Audi A4 - Heck yes. Six cylinder, manual transmission. Had some repairs that cost, but a joy to drive. Clutch and shifter like butter.

    04 Honda Odyssey, bought in 07 - Maybe - surprisingly tinny compared to the Villager. Very good utility and great mileage for what it is. Power window motor went out, it has paint problems, and it pulls to the right for no apparent reason.

    05 Acura TL - Yes, but it is too big and handles like a boat, especially after the Audi. But I have 94K and it hasn't had any repairs.

    07 Mazda 5 - Absolutely yes. This amazing vehicle is inexpensive, is shorter and narrower than my TL, but handles better. It seats six and has fabulous steering and a tight turning circle. Anybody looking at a CRV-type vehicle should consider the Mazda 5 unless you must have 4wd. It is cheaper, handles much better, seats one more person, and has the same amount of cargo space.
  • ponderpointponderpoint Posts: 277
    Would you buy your vehicle again?

    2006 Acura TL.....

    Unfortunately not..... No manual tranny anymore except for the incredibly expensive AWD. It's a nice car but too big now and expensive.

    Completely happy with my 06' even with its "Colonel Klink" useless navi (Alpine I believe), if I had know how dumb the navi was, I wouldn't have included it, other than that the car is the best car I have ever owned..... Except for a 68' VW Bug.
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 5,126
    I had a '66 Bug, but felt that was so long ago nobody would care, so I didn't mention it. A crude and wandering car, but I did get 180K on it and sold it for more than I paid...
  • ponderpointponderpoint Posts: 277
    Yep, my 68' bug wasn't exactly a performance car but it got the job done. It was incredible how it just kept going and going. We literally drove it to the salvage yard when it was just to corroded to go on anymore, I drove it for awhile in the summer with the backseat useless - huge holes in the floor and finally - the driver seat had something give way with a snapping noise underneath it. It was nursed to the salvage yard and given last rites.....
  • berriberri Posts: 7,727
    What, no ring jobs on those Beetles?
  • After a year and 17K miles with my Pontiac G8, no problems and it's the best car I've ever owned -- smooth quiet highway ride, 4 doors & roomy, and great handling always there when I want it. MPG is good "for a big car."
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 10,277
    If the G8 GT had been available with a stick I'd have one in my garage as well.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport / 2014 M235i / 1999 Wrangler / 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2016 i3 REX/2009 Cooper Clubman Son's: 2009 328i

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,040
    If the G8 GT had been available with a stick I'd have one in my garage as well.

    If I wasn't such a tightwad so fiscally conservative, I'd probably have one in my garage, too!
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,649
    The car I would not buy again is a '79 Honda Accord hatchback. Great little car by 1979 standards but it had some glaring flaws, the engine while economical did not like to rev much which is probably why Honda put in a five speed but it really wasn't much fun to drive (my next car was a VW GTI).

    The Honda had a serious problem with brake balance, if you nailed the brakes on wet pavement the rears would lock up and send the car into a spin. Most of the time I could steer around it by applying opposite lock but it did cause two accidents, one serious.

    At least I knew enough to Zeibart Rust-proof it while new so I didn't have that problem.

    In retrospect a '79 Celica hatchback or a Rabbit would have been more my style.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,040
    Did your '79 Accord have air conditioning? One of my friends back in college had a 1980 Accord hatchback with air conditioning and the new-for-80 (IIRC) 3-speed automatic. With three people on board, on level ground, it would do 0-60 in about 26 seconds. With the 5-speed, Consumer Reports would usually get around 15-16 seconds out of them, but I can't remember if their test cars had a/c or not.

    By 1987, my friend's 80 Accord was pretty rusty, but surprisingly, the sheetmetal actually had a fairly thick, sturdy feel to it. And I don't remember it actually having rust would just get these blossoms of rust popping up through the paint that would spread out so far and wide, causing the still-shiny paint to flake off. It's like the rust would spread out, and I'm sure if you pounded on it you'd make holes in it, but the holes wouldn't just appear on their own. So, it was at least fairly sturdy rust, if there is such a thing!

    His car also wasn't all that economical, but again that could be attributed to the automatic and a/c I guess. He probably got around 20 city, 25 highway. At the time I was driving a 1980 Malibu that would get around 16 city, maybe 22-23 highway. Looking up the EPA ratings for that year, all I can find is a "combined" of 23 for the Accord automatic, 19 for the Malibu 229/auto.

    For that time, my 1980 Malibu was actually a pretty good car. My buddy's Accord was on its second engine and transmission, and when that second transmission failed, it got junked. I used to say that if every domestic was built as good as my Malibu, and if every Japanese import was built like my buddy's Accord, the domestics wouldn't be in the jam they're in today!

    Although truth be told, I probably wouldn't want to have to drive either of those cars today! I'm sure if I had to re-live that 1980 Malibu today, the experience wouldn't nearly match my memories of it. Maybe if it was a better-trimmed Malibu Classic, and had the 305 V-8...that might be a different story.

    Now that I think back on it, one thing that impressed me about that Accord was the interior. Not the quality so much, as it was falling apart, but more so the level of luxury, I guess you'd call it. It had velour seats and carpeting on the door panels, and the hard plastic was actually kept to a tasteful minimum. Unfortunately, by the late 1980s the velour was falling apart, as was the carpeting, the dashboard was cracking, and all the padded vinyl parts were wrinkling up and tearing. Still, it must have been a really nice looking interior when it was new. No domestic subcompact would have had an interior that upscale. My guess is that you'd have to go up to something like a Buick Skylark Limited, at the very least, for trappings like that.
  • fezofezo Manahawkin, NJPosts: 10,330
    My old 80 Accord sedan was in remarkably good shape inside in 1987 when we parted ways with the exception of the driver's seat which, while it was still comfortable, looked like hell. No cracks in the vinyl or anything. The frame was getting rust at that point. It had been on a barrier island full time its last four years.

    It was a great car for its time. It's the car that turned me into a Honda fanatic. It's predecessor was an 80 Rabbit which explains a lot.
    2013 Mazda 5 Grand Touring, 2010 Toyota Prius IV. 2007 Toyota Camry XLE, 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999 Mazda Miata
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,600
    "Most of the time I could steer around it by applying opposite lock..."

    How the heck did you do that?
  • 32333233 Posts: 21
    My 2000 E320 has run flawlessly for the past five years. It's the last of the "boxy" MBs and has an enormous backseat for a mid size car. It also gives you a feel for the road, with light but informative steering if you know what I mean, that has been lost by a lot of new luxury cars. And best of all it is ~500 pounds lighter than comparable new luxury cars. Thus the 220 hp V6 can get it hustling, and it can go around a corner reasonably fast. Best of all it would only cost me ~8500 for a similar car. Maybe 1500 more for the V8 :shades:
  • 26cars26cars Posts: 19
    As my user name says, this is my 26th car: 2010 Subaru Forester X Premium. Does everything it's asked to do, and them some. Decent light-duty tow vehicle, great utility if you lug a lot of stuff. Decent, not great, gas mileage (24/28). 12K miles with no problems other than rattles in both front doors which I had dealer fix (loose baffles).
    Have owned Chevy, Olds, Mercury, Ford, Dodge, Plymouth, Chrysler, Honda, Mazda, all had strong & weak points.
    Have owned 1 VW (2000 Passat) and that is the one I would never have bought if I knew what a unreliable piece of c**p it would turn out to be!
  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,897
    I also own a W210, and for what they go for today, I'd take the risk and buy another. They aren't without their issues - inconsistent rust prevention especially in early models, passing electrical issues, etc...but they have aged very well, and are bargains on the used market if the car has been treated properly. I do prefer the looks to the W211, which in my eyes is more feminine...the W210 is more oldfashioned and straightforward. I have the AMG model...average ones can be had for 12K or so, and really nice ones should be able to be bought for around 15K. Lots of performance car bang for the buck..comfortable, highly equipped, reasonably efficient for the size and power, rare, fast (steering is a little numb, but it's an old MB, deal with it)'s hard to beat.
  • kdg2kdg2 Posts: 1
    My new (5 month) 2011 BMW X5 is parked on my driveway in -20 C below zero and I discovered that the glass was fragmented on the front passenger side window. Has anyone else had this problem? There was no sign of a break in and the alarm did not go off. BMW will take no responsibility for the repair.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,855
    -20 C is not that cold, 4 degrees Farenheit.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2014 Ford F-150 FX4
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    edited January 2011
    -4 F, MINUS 4 Fahrenheit.

    Seems fairly cold to me, but I know that' just another winter's day for you folks in New England and the frigid north. ;-)

    I would pretty much buy my car again, BTW. '09 Subaru Outback Sport, great cruising and canyon car, I just passed the 20K mile mark. The only significant downside is the totally crappy fuel economy. We will see if gas goes past $4/gal this summer......might be parking it for a while (!!)........if they made a hybrid or diesel version, I would pay the extra bucks for it.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,277
    What kind of mileage? I'm getting about 27mpg with my 07' 5-spd hatch which is expected. But I do about 90% highway as well...

    Usually I'm getting 30-31 in the warmer months.

    Getting ready to hit 65k and ready for my first set of brakes on all corners. Other than that and a rattling gearbox, the thing runs like a champ. Goes thru the snow really well too. Even with th 10-15" we are expecting tomorrow, I have no fear that my Scooby will get stuck.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    The mileage is always 27-28, and the only time I pull 30-31 is on all-highway trips. Not unexpected based on the EPA estimates, but more onerous every time the price of gas rises, which is ALL the time since last spring.
    I can live with it, but since the topic is "would you buy another" I thought I would mention that I would only buy another if they offered a powertrain that could deliver high 30s, maybe 40 mpg.
    300 hp Audi Quattros make the same fuel economy as my little 2.5L Scooby....

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

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