2005 and Earlier Chevrolet Impala

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  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    If I remember right, this problem was reported on Regal board about a year ago.

    The radio antena is built into the rear window. Sometimes the antena is defective - it have micro-crack(s). With defroster on, the crack widens due to thermal expansion, and the electrical connection in the antena becames unstable. The "rattling" contact makes the noise.

    The rear window was replaced under warranty, and the problem gone away.

    However, it was with built-in antena. If you have a "diversity" one with On-Star, you have a different problem.
  • picturethispicturethis Member Posts: 16
    I just recently bought a 2000 Galaxy Silver LS and I think Chevy really did a fine job this time.
    It rides nice and smooth, has great acceleration, has a very nice interior, and looks beautiful too.
    Things I really like about the Impala:

    Exterior:
    This car looks great!
    The smoke headlight covers, the retro tail-lights, the aggressive looking nose. I don't even mind the black side molding (nobody thought black molding looked bad on the sides of the 2000 5 series BMW--but they hate it on a Chevy. Go figure). The wheels look great and even alittle sporty. I even think the tail-light cover looks cool--at least it's not boring.

    Interior:
    I love the instument display. It's very neat and well thought-out and everything is lighted at night. The fake wood is at least "good fake wood" and is not overdone. The leather seats are very comfortable and easy to adjust. Center console is nice and deep with removable rubber-mat. Plenty of room in the car for 4 passengers and the trunk is huge.

    Performance:
    The 3800 engine is well suited for this car and it has plenty of power--passing on the highway is nothing to sweat about at all.
    The transmission shifts nice and smooth with no herky-jerky.

    Things I don't like so much:
    Exterior:
    The spoiler--but I was too cheap to get it removed.

    Interior:
    It could have alittle better quality plastic, but they had to cut cost somewhere.
    The glove-compartment is way too small.
    I would rather have a hand operated parking brake.
    The radio: I'm still learning so I'll reserve judgement for now, but it has weak reception.
    The brakes: they feel alittle weak at times. but the car is used and I don't know how the previous owner treated it.

    Overall I think this car is terrific and Chevy is on the right track.
  • Even on cars with OnStar, the radio antenna is still imbedded in the rear window along with the defroster elements. In your case, something is causing a negative interaction.

    Bring your car into you Chevy service dept. They should be able to do something.
  • spider717spider717 Member Posts: 106
    You don't like the spoiler? Maybe it's the 21 year old in me but I think it looks so much more... Agressive? I guess thats the word.
  • picturethispicturethis Member Posts: 16
    I guess I just think spoilers belong on sportscars.
    But it certainly is'nt ugly by any means and I hardly notice it now.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    The BMW M5 sedan as well as the Volvo S60 and S80 sedans all have thick black molding that warps around the car from the front bumper all the way back to the license plate opening in the rear bumper.

    Perhaps it is an ugly trim piece but hey since BMW and Volvo use it on their premium sedans it must be tasteful and therefore acceptable in terms of looks.

    The Impala uses the same black moulding as the cars mentioned above....perhaps the black material is not as easy to clean or friendly when waxing the vehicle but the idea and principle are the same.

    Have you seen how fully painted bumpers and/or door moulding trim pieces look after a few years?

    I have and it looks terrible. Those painted mouldings look nice when the car is new but after they receive a few hits from adjacent doors from parked cars, these leave scuff marks or chip/peel off the paint. Ditto with fully painted bumpers.

    By the way who was the DUMMY that came with the idea that bumpers and door mouldings have to be 'color coordinated' in a car???

    Paint is not meant to provide full protection in these subject to high impact and wear areas in the exterior of the car.

    After a few years of use, guess which bumpers and trim mouldings are going to look better??

    By the way I REALLY LIKE the rear decklid spoiler. It adds character to the car and it also serves as an excellent aid when backing up the vehicle.

    The Impala without the spoiler looks kinda lame, but thats entirely my opinion.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    You have the dreaded engine cradle thicks. Go to Night_owl's Impala Page and then click on the 'How to Section'. Find the article in reference to "How to tell the differences between the engine cradle on a 2000 Impala vs a 2001 Impala".

    Extremely informative by the way.

    Also if you happen to feel steering clunks in the car, you might also need to have your Intermediate Steering Shaft replaced as well.

    The Engine cradle and Intermediate Steering Shaft are the two most common maladies on first production year (2000) Impalas and Montecarlos.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    I haven't yet seen the Altima in person. The car looks stunning on pictures.

    I have been following the 2002 Altima tread here in Edmunds and I have read about a host of complaints regarding the cheap interior and poor assembly quality of the interior in general...is this true or an exaggeration???

    The 2002 Camry looks much, much better than the last generation sleeping pill, but I would never pay $30K for a decently equipped Camry with a V6 engine. Passatville? Not only that but also Toyota has again outpriced themselves over their very own Avalon 'Flagship' and even crossing into Acuraville, Lexusville, BMWVille and Audiville territory as well.

    The Altima appears to be the best compromise in moderately priced Japanese performance sedans but I have also read that a fully loaded 3.5L V6 Altima is dangerously approaching the $30K threshold as well.....No way I would pay that much money for a Nissan Altima..
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Nope I am afraid that your problem is kind of unique at least on this tread. The only other owner (Joed56) that has come closest to a PCM problem had it replaced after the car started to experience sudden engine shutdowns and hesitation problems. The PCM was reporting an incorrect error code and therefore it was found to be defective. once it was replaced he hasn't had any problems with the car again.

    Aside from the Message Center light, have you had any other engine related problems or is it just the dashboard warning light lit on???

    Has the dealer checked your emissions equipment?

    Was is the mileage and sticker build date of your car (Located inside the driver's door jamb)?

    It sounds like your problem is not hardware concentric, in other words, you don't have a PCM problem. The controlling software seems to be suspect, therefore causing the constant triggering of the dashboard light.

    Please keep us posted.
  • tpkentpken Member Posts: 1,108
    My 2000 Bonneville SE had the exact same problem and it was determined to be an interruption somewhere in the defroster circuitry that caused interference on the FM band. A new window was installed under warranty. This is not an uncommon problem. Good to have warranties for things like this.

    Best wishes - enjoy that Impala!

    Ken
  • tpkentpken Member Posts: 1,108
    Glad to hear you'll be up this way soon. Please let me know - love to get together if you care to. Lot's of great places to see here.

    That Altima has been reported to have dismal gas mileage. What did the window sticker suggest it gets? It's a continual wonder to me that cars like the Impala and Bonneville can demonstrate consistent upper 20s and even low 30s on the highway while the supposedly 'efficient' Asian sedans burn more fuel.

    Ken
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    There is a antenna module behind the c-pillar panel. The antenna in the rear glass is inductively connected to the radio through this module. When you turn on the radio, power is sent to the module. For some reason, the defogger circuit is routed through this unit also. My guess is that the module is bad or there is a bad connection somewhere. Take a look at your rear window, driver's side. There should be two spade connectors. The one near the top is for the radio antenna. Make sure it's connected. Someone had a problem with their defogger and come to find out it was disconnected, probably by the workers at the car wash. I'll look at my service manual when I get home.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    Seems like the only difference is the rims, graphite molding, painted rear lens, chromed exhaust tip and logo on the front doors. Everthing else is included in the LS.
  • The lower revving, bigger American engines, despite lower HP, get better highway mileage because of the Lower revving.
    However, the smaller Japanese engines usually get better city numbers, so I guess it depends on where one does most of one's driving.
    The Japanese engines arguably last a wee bit longer than their US conterparts, as well. However, that gap has narrowed considerably in the last few years, also arguably.
  • I agree 100% about the spoiler. It completely changes the style from a sedate family sedan into a very muscular looking machine. It probably could've been designed to blend in better, but it looks pretty good now, IMHO.

    I also don't understand peoples passionate hatred of the black molding. While I agree with them that body color molding does indeed look better, I find that the black molding still looks OK.

    I'm not too crazy about the way it turns into this huge black piece around the license plate frame, or the way the whole bumper sticks out in the back. But, I don't mind them so much either.

    It's strange, except for the taillight treatment, I don't see anything in the car's styling to get so passionate about. It's got simple, smooth lines and most of the colors are nice.
  • spider717spider717 Member Posts: 106
    Ok I know this is lame but I can't seem to find a keyword search to go through att 5K posts. So can anyone tell me the part number for the K&N air filter? Thanks.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    The black moulding in the rear bumper license plate housing was added in the 2001 model year. 2000's were painted there so they looked a bit nicer; however, I am already used to the new look.

    Last year's Impala SS prototype pictures suggested the use of a more 'Flush' looking rear decklid spoiler, possibly borrowed from the current Montecarlo SS coupe. It looks very nice, but like you say, the current spoiler is quite nice and adds a lot of character to the car.

    If the V8 Impala SS ever becomes a reality in the current platform it will give the Nissan Altima and almost any sedan in its price range a hard run for the money plus it would be able to compete head to head with the dinosaur Marauder when it comes out next year, provided that Ford doesn't screw it up with 10 recalls by launch time..

    One thing that GM needs to give the Impala is folding exterior side rear view mirrors.
  • blckthreeblckthree Member Posts: 153
    I had a similar problem with my 2000 Impala, there are two possible problems, one rather simple and probably not the answer, but are you getting the fuel tank cap shut completely and making sure it clicks several times? The other one relates to some kind of sensor in the fuel line/tank, it requires removal of the fuel tank and replacement of the sensor. I thought that was solved with the 2001's, but you never know.
  • spider717spider717 Member Posts: 106
    I found the part number 33-2141. It lists this for the 2000 Impala. There's no listing for the 2001, is this compatible?
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Also I would like to see in future Impala LS and LSS models FULL instrumentation gauges with Volt and Oil pressure indicators like the ones found in the Montecarlo SS coupe with the sport instrumentation package (This is something that the 2002 LS-S could have included but they didn't do it, duh!)

    I also like better the steering wheel design in the Montecarlo coupe (3 spoke design) as it also includes a steering mounted on/off button for the cruise control as oppossed to the turn signal stalk mounted one in the Impala. The Monte's steering wheel looks a bit nicer than the Impala's altough I find both wheels to be very comfortable and easy to grip.
  • fathertyriciusfathertyricius Member Posts: 116
    Well I took my car into Chevy today to find out why im loosing FM reception when I turn on the rear defroster as the motor is running. Mr Goodwrench spent about a half hour with my car inspecting all the circuts leading to the antenna. The cause of this happening is because my antenna took a micro spike, and chevy ordered a new rear glass to replace the original. The service manager called the factory and was told that this occurs a lot on the Impala's and the Regals. They assured me that once they change the rear window, all will be normal again. I responded... for how long? Another eight months? (Thats how long I own the car). He laughed and said no.He also said that GM has improved the quality of the antenna in the rear window and this shouldnt happen ever again. I just shook my head, and made the appointment for them to make the switch. If you start getting static after tuning on your rear defroster... you need a new rear window.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    I understand how you feel about the Radio antenna problem, but hey is not a big deal.

    At least they were able to quickly troubleshoot the problem. You should be OK once you get the new glass replacement.

    If that is the only problem in 8 months (And probably the last for a long time to come), hey you still got a GREAT quality car.

    Enjoy!
  • roderacerroderacer Member Posts: 311
    Glad to hear that the service dept. was able to quickly diagnose and get the ball rolling on your rear window replacement.

    I will make a note to check my reception out while the def. is on ASAP.

    I know how much it sucks to have your car in the shop (especially after 8 months), but it goes with the territory and believe me, 8 mos. and that is the only thing wrong - could be MUCH worse... aka FORD! HA! Sorry you FORD lovers!

    later!
    RR
  • joed56joed56 Member Posts: 27
    Dear Teo: I just saw on the board something you wrote to an outlaw1 re: a problem he is having. You mentioned my name and the problem I had with my car. You related how the ECM was replaced and thus far I have had no trouble. This is accurate. By the way, I will be turning over 6000 miles in a week or so. The dealer put a sticker in my window reminding me to bring the car in for service at 6000 miles. What is the normal recommended things to be done at 6000 miles? Thanks for your help. Should the tires be rotated? Joe
  • joed56joed56 Member Posts: 27
    Dear Teo: I meant to ask you, what problems is this other person having? Just curious. Joe.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Tires should be rotated every 5K miles or so. Never overlook the rotation schedule in a FWD vehicle.

    If you are having steering wheel vibrations at highway speeds, then also take advantage of the rotation and have the dealer check the balancing on each tire. Do this ONLY if you are having abnormal vibrations felt in the car, otherwise skip it.

    Have them check all fluids levels and your tire's air pressures (Including trunk spare tire).

    Quick visual inspection of suspension components and underside the car.

    If needed, they should put some lubricating grease on all door hinges

    Oil/Filter change.

    You should be good for another 3K to 5K after this.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Joed56: Read post #5349 from Outlaw1 for more info. Perhaps you can help him on this one.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    So what is a microspike? Is this something like a snipe?
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Spike Lee's son.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Is that fake Impala SS in your photo's section a Base Impala model with the 3400 or 3800 V6???

    Car doesn't look bad at all but really dislike the tacky 'Impala SS' markings on the front chin spoiler.

    It appears that the owner is trying too hard to make believe others this is an 'SS' model by plastering some ugly 'Impala SS' markings on the car (Why not use the Impala LS's door marking instead?)

    Anyway I am more interested in seeing the interior and engine bay pics showing the modifications.

    An Impala SS without tachometer and bench seats??

    I am just being sarcastic =)
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    Well it's kind of the same argument that has arisen here in the past, about the interior being cheap. Personally I like the Impala's interior, my only gripe is no elbow room on the doors, since it's insane to drive around with windows down around here. Well at least for 4 months of the year. As for the Altima I wasn't crazy about the center armrest that pivots forward (shares that with Passat) it was very flimsy, it has hidden compartments, a small one that isn't very deep and another under that that is deeper and can accommodate cd's, there is a small one in the same area as on our LS that has a flip up lid (where ours is open) but the lid seems pretty flimsy too. It looks like something that might break soon. The big four in this car turn 175 hp and so we see no reason to get a v-6 which is turning about 240hp and there is no way I let my lead footed wife into a car with that much power! The big four is plenty.

    She would get it with the comfort and con. package that is about 1700.00 which gets you 8 way power seats, sport wheels with 16" tires cruise, and a host of other things too numerous to mention but a good deal I think. The MSRP would be 21,305.00 and they say they are not discounting at all. I won't pay msrp for any car so unless they want to deal I'm not budging, too many other dealerships to go to if they want to play that game. I think you're right about the camry though, the new one may have put themselves out of the running at 30k, we'd go with Passat before I spent 30k on Toyota. Overall I'd say the Altima is pretty nice at 21.3k
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    When it gets closer to travel time I'll drop you an email and maybe we can get together. I'm looking forward to the trip, too bad it wouldn't still be nice enough to take a dip in your lake.
    I'll give you a holler...
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Altimas going for MSRP???

    Man, how times change!

    I will never pay MSRP for any mass produced car and don't care how 'hot' it may be and much less so for a Nissan.

    Looks very nice but I think it will be better to let the dealer do their price gouging until demand for the car softens and they begin to deal on them.

    175HP for a four banger is pretty decent power but I would still have my reservations about paying $21K for a four banger car when you can get an Impala or other GM equivalent with V6 power for the same money.

    If you go for the Altima, enjoy, but I would personally wait and see how the car turns out to be (First year 1.0 model) and the price gouging ends.
  • fathertyriciusfathertyricius Member Posts: 116
    who gave their opinions and support. My car has performed beautifully since the day I bought it, & it still does. I love it very much. Chevy already has me down for Sept 14th for the day of replacing the rear window. They felt that the window should be delivered by then, and that it would only take a day to make the replacement. Can I live without my LS for a day? Honestly? No. When I get into my wife's car... 93 Buick Skylark Custom, 3.3V6 fully loaded.. I notice right away that im not in my LS, but I will live. :) All the people at the Chevy dealer where I bought my car were fantastic. I didnt even have an appointment... they slipped me right in to check the car and to see what was wrong. In my opinion that is A+ service. When I initially went into the service dept this morning, I felt that they were goiing to tell me that I would have to come back in a couple of days, but not so. They had the car in the bay in minutes, with a lot of action going on with other cars being serviced (no other Impala's). Now I will have to listen to AM radio when I need to use the defroster until the switch is made. I'll live. :) Thanks again everyone.
    Best Regards,
    FatherTyricius
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    No deals until after we get back from vacation forst of all. And I agree about no deals. They are insane and I already told them they wouldn't get my business if they weren't willing to deal. They seem to think this is some kind of high demand limited edition car or something that they could add markup to. I read on the Altima board some guy paid 600.00 over invoice, that's about the most I'd pay.

    Remember WE bought a first year model car too so it's not a very good argument against, and you ended up getting yours bought back. I've already tried 3 times to talk her into a 2002 Impala. I'm pretty good at talking her into things but it's not working, so my guess is she doesn't like my car as much as she says she does! My deal is I'd rather not pay about 6k more for the Passat if I can get something that is pretty decent and has a good track record. First year car or not, Nissan builds a pretty good product so I'm not really worried about that. She's not thrilled with the seats (cloth in the Passat) so she has to go with leather (1500.00 more) and the 1.8T seems sluggish to her (another 1500.0 to go up to a v6) those and about 3k more in base price for the Passat, plus the service issues we have around here (only one Service center that is halfway convienient to get to plus high parts costs for the VW) There is still a bunch of crap to consider as you can see...cripes if she'd just go for the Sport Edition Impala...
  • If she did go for the Sport Impala, I have a hunch that SHE wouldn't be the one usually driving it.
    ;-)
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    One of the factors in getting the new ride was that it would be a car that we could use as a family instead of just using the Impala all the time. She presently drives a 93' Saturn with two squirrels and a gerbil in a rolling cage with rubberbands for power... I'm kind of a bigger fella and the Saturn makes me want to scream for lack of moving around space, so the new car had to have room for me to drive as well, so yeah, I'd be driving that puppy for sure!
  • More like a "big dog" than a puppy! ;-)
    (I mean that in the good sense.)
  • picturethispicturethis Member Posts: 16
    Just yesterday I posted about how I love my Impala, and today, while on my way to Alabama, the driver's windshield-wiper broke.
    I had them on "low" and no problem, and then switched them to "hi" and no problem for about 20 minutes. Then the driver's wiper went totally off the windshield and wedged itself between the driver's side-mirror and the door!
    To make matters worse I was about 2 hours from my dealer.
    Once I got to the dealer I noticed the wiper had scratched the paint on the side-mirror and that really got my blood pressure up!
    They're working on it right now and I'm sure they will repair everything (it's still under warranty).
    Has this happened to anyone else?
    It's probably just a fluke but I advise everyone to thoroughly test your wipers on "hi". I tested them before I bought the car but not for an extended amount of time.
    I had been riding with them on "low" for about 1 hour before switching them to "hi".
    I'm thankful that I was not on I-85 doing 75mph around Atlanta!
  • outlaw1outlaw1 Member Posts: 5
    The build date was 5/00 on my LS model and I have 9700 miles.

    The emmission equipment has not been checked, only other problem has been 1 engine shut down at an excess speed that I have chosen not to duplicate again. Chucked it up to a possible governor, any idea on that notion?

    fuel cap is on and clicked into place. The light has illuminated twice since the initial module replacements, but when the car was restarted after turning engine off, the light went out. However, at this point it will not go away.

    I'm taking it in to the dealer tommorrow morning. Will keep you posted on the findings.

    Otherwise the car has been great and still rides well despite the nuisance light. Could use better gas mileage, but I still like it.
  • If you have OnStar, they can upload the diagnostic code now, so you don't have to wait to find out why the light went on.
    Of course, they can't fix it from there, but it's nice to know what's up.
  • nick01nick01 Member Posts: 84
    to remember just where you have read a particular post. After thousands of posts on the chevy, fords,chryslers and imports I cant give you 'chapter and verse' but here's what I read somewhere on edmunds.
    I man had a problem with his car. On star remotely 'reprogramed' his computer and solved his problem.
    This was a new one on me.

    Nick
  • Next thing you know, they'll put a man on the moon.
  • sweetpollysweetpolly Member Posts: 99
    I took my car to the dealer today for an oil change and to also replace the batteries in my two fobs. They charged me $21.00 labor to replace the batteries (including reprogramming). Has anyone else paid (labor costs) to have their batteries replaced in your fobs? Batteries cost was only $2.54 and only 1 was replaced, since the other was still good.
  • outlaw1outlaw1 Member Posts: 5
    My car doesn't have Onstar, which confuses me as I thought it was standard on LS models. It was manufactured in Canada, and as I read here that seems to make a difference. Sounds like a novel trick for diagnostics.
  • I believe OnStar became standard on the LS as of 2001 model year in the US. They are all made in Canada. I think it's only the ones actually sold in Canada that have different options/standard features.
  • nick01nick01 Member Posts: 84
    my present wife and I were married at the exact moment they lifted off to return to earth. The JP and his wife never even turned the tv off.
    I still have trouble convincing my wife the whole thing wasnt staged in the desert somewhere on earth. My wifes crazy.....but she loves my Impala :*)

    Nick
  • spider717spider717 Member Posts: 106
    Thats kind of expensive in my opinion. Those batteries should last years, at least thats the impression I was under. Few things. First off, on page 2-12 oh the owners manual it tell you how to resynchronize youself. Just hold down the lock/unlock buttons simultaniously for 7 seconds until a horn chirp is heard. You can do this after changing the $2.54 battery yourself.

    Also, did you get it checked because sometimes the transmitter wasn't working? This is happening to me more and more. My batteries in BOTH fob's are fine. There is a TSB stating a problem about this, and they will fix it under warrenty.

    Hope this helps.
  • hvan3hvan3 Member Posts: 630
    If the dealer actually charged you $21 to replace the battery in the fob, consider yourself lucky. They actually did some work! LOL.

    I stated before that my Impala LS did not come with the coin holder. I took the car in for an oil change and told them that my car did not come with a coinholder at the time I took delivery of the vehicle. No problem, they place an order for a new coinholder. Guess what? They charged GM $28 for labor to place the coin holder in the compartment. LOL What's up with that?

    As for someone who recently had the rear glass replace because of static in their stereo, I really question their motive to replace the entire rear glass. In my opinion, it's probably a faulty wire connection. Instead, the dealer will bill GM for a new rear glass and get to keep the new rear glass for themselves!!

    15 years ago, my father bought a brand new Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Regency. It was a top of the line showroom model. This car was a nightware from hell. Everything went wrong. To make the long story short, my father once took his car in to have the A/C condenser (?) replaced. Before he took the car in for service, he initialed his name onto to the part. When the dealer called to have him pick up his car, he noticed the dealer did NOT do anything to his A/C. The dealer claimed they ordered new parts and yadda yadda. My father proved to them otherwise. My father made a BIG scene. He was furious. They lied and cheated him on his new parts.

    Anyway, the moral of the story is when having a dealer service your vehicle, put your initials on the part. I'm not saying all dealers are crooked, but some will twist the truth to get free parts from GM. IMO.
  • Crooked dealers? I'm shocked. SHOCKED!!!
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