2005 and Earlier Chevrolet Impala

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  • crosley4crosley4 Member Posts: 295
    I noticed the airbag warning light popped "on" and "off" real quickly while we were driving down the road. I seem to recall that it was caused by a relay under the drivers seat?

    And I found out that if you use the key to open the drivers door, if you hold the key in the unlock position for a second or two it unlocks all four doors.

    We've only had the car for 20 months now......LOL

    Tony
  • dewdrops38dewdrops38 Member Posts: 41
    Wow - lmao - I shall go try that right now

    (( pause ))

    That is just too cool. I held the key on "unlock" for a second or so and all 4 locks unlocked.

    I then locked it, and held it, and nothing happened (other than the drivers door locking)

    Neat. Now go play and find out some more things to tell us :-)

    I've got a 12 year old that usually finds EVERYTHING ! He counted the buttons, anything that qualifies as a push type "thingie" and he came up with a very high number. I'll have to get with him to get that number, or a recount. Seems like it was well over 80, if not 90 or more.
    The blinker alone has many.
    blinker left
    blinker right
    brights
    cruise button on
    resume
    windshield washer settings
    push type washer fluid

    ...as if you didn't know, but it sure was cute listening to him and his number go higher than I expected :-)
  • mediumfrymediumfry Member Posts: 239
    I am getting a light knocking feeling in the steering wheel and floor during low speed turning. No noise (clicking or popping) just a feeling like someone's tapping lightly on the steering system or something up front. Is this how the engine cradle / intermediate shaft problems started for others? My '01 LS has a build date of 11/00 and has 10500 miles on it.

    Another subtle thing I've noticed is with the LS wheels in rainy weather the brakes seem to get wet easily. Braking is significantly reduced for the first 100 feet or so after driving on wet/rainy roads for a few minutes. After the initial time, the brakes get noticeably more powerful with no change in pressure on the pedal. Anyone else notice this?
  • hank64hank64 Member Posts: 37
    Thanks for the fast reply and info on the wheel liners. I got to the page and will get the TSB installation procedure to the service manager in the morning. Hank -
  • impalanatorimpalanator Member Posts: 37
    Hi to everyone. I've been a lurker for quite sometime and finally decided to participate.

    To help with the concern of not enough cooling make sure the temp controls are all the way down (not to insult anyones intelligence, but you'd be surprised at how many people think they're just for heat). Using the A/C in the winter with the heat set up is a great way to quickly defog the side windows when there a several people in the car. Also, the quickest way to cool down the interior on a hot day is to open a couple of windows about one inch, set the fan to 5, the direction to the floor or bi-level and max cool for about 2 minutes. This forces the majority of hot air up and out the windows.

    The other answers concerning the difference between recirc and fresh modes are correct IMO. Also remember that in fresh mode you're having to pull air thru the hepa filter.

    As for the odor issue..you might want to check that hepa filter and make sure it didn't somehow get wet. If it did, the only recourse would be to replace it.

    Mediumfry--The symptoms you describe are classic CV joint problem. Notably, you hear/feel a knocking noise while turning at low speed. Time for a warranty trip to the dealer.

    Glad to be of some help. Great board. And I do love my 2k Regal blue metallic LS.

    Oh, and I will be watching..haha
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Probably not C/V joint but intermediate steering shaft.

    Teo should be able to shed more light on this issue, as i am an intrigue owner not an impala owner.......yet.
  • cabellocabello Member Posts: 101
    Beleive me, it's the intermediate steering shaft assembly. Take it in quick.
  • caslcasl Member Posts: 33
    Teo - thanks for the info about getting rid of the A/C odor. Now that I think about it, I usually smell it most when I change from the FRESH setting to RECIRC. I'll try the steps you mentioned and see if that helps.

    Roderacer - I, too, instructed the dealer not to put a sticker on my car when I purchased my 2k. They put one on anyway, so I refused to take delivery until it was removed - which they did promptly. I let them put a logo license plate holder on though - since it's easier to remove if I ever have a falling out with them.

    By the way - the dealer installed a software update hoping to correct the hesitation problem I've been having. Since that update, I have had 3 of the biggest hesitations to date (and a couple small ones) and two cases of sputtering/jerking (which has never happened before) where I thought I was going to stall out. I'm going back in to get the wheel liners installed - and will have the dealer check it again.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Unfortunately what you are describing are the 'classic' symptoms of premature failure of the Intermediate Steering Shaft part.

    If you are feeling 'faint' clunks traveling upwards the steering wheel column when making turns (Either direction) at slow speeds and also traveling downwards the brake pedal, then there is no doubt that your IIS warrants immediate attention and replacement.

    On my 'old' 2000 Impala LS the problem showed up at around 11,000 miles. When I made a right turn at very low speeds it felt like the whole front end was going to fall apart. Once the dealer replaced the IIS, the steering was nice and tight once again.

    Our friend, Bz4, is all too familiar with this problem in the Oldsmobile Intrigue. Nearly every Intrigue owner has had the IIS replaced at some point in the life of the car. Us Impala owners have had a similiar fate, specially with the 2000 year model.

    Yours is the first case of a '01 Impala with the IIS problem. Your build date (11/00) could suggest that at the time of assembly they were using the same exact problematic IIS. But there is a catch...the part number hasn't changed, so we don't really know if the IIS on newer '01 Impalas will eventually require attention as well...time will only tell.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    I'm pretty sure I've NEVER used the key to unlock the doors!! But I think I'll be giving that little trick a try.

    When I test drove the Passat (before getting the Impala) VW guy showed me that if you held the key in the unlock position for a few extra seconds it rolls all the windows down. That was cool... Then they did a TV commercial about it and EVERYone knows now... sigh...
  • kenbuzzkenbuzz Member Posts: 99
    While I'm no expert, here's my understanding of how the TRAF button/function works on your RDS Radio.

    1 - If you press the TRAF button while listening to the radio, it will either play the traffic bulletin if the current station has one for you, or it will scan to band to find to find a station that is broadcasting a traffic bulletin. If it gets once around the dial, it'll give up.

    2 - If you press the TRAF button while listening to a tape or CD, you have instructed the radio to interrupt your music whenever it detects a traffic bulletin on the currently tuned-to station.

    Important note for #2: It is my understanding that the traffic interrupt will only happen if the station you tuned to last broadcasts a traffic bulletin. I do not believe that the RDS constantly scans the entire FM band when you're listening to a tape/CD... it only monitors the one station you left it on last.

    (What *I* want to know is why there's a CD icon on the 5 button?)
  • roderacerroderacer Member Posts: 311
    I have filled up 2 times since I took delivery a couple of weeks ago. The latest fill-up last night was of Amoco Silver@89 Octane. The fill-up before that was of the Regular@87 Octane. I was averaging 25.5-25.9 MPG on the 87 and this morning I was up to 30.4MPG with an avg. speed of 47 MPH with the 89 stuff. Hmmm, I wonder if the Ultimate@92 Octane would increase the MPG even more.

    I remember the threads re: this a few hundred posts ago... just bringing it up again. :)

    Thanks,
    RR
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Sounds like your engine is getting broken in. Your mileage should increase a little over the next month or so.

    Don't think the octane has too much of an efect on mileage.
  • roderacerroderacer Member Posts: 311
    Thanks for the insight. I didn't even consider that to be a factor, but it makes sense. I have just over 600 miles on the LS so far. 25 miles one way to work is going to stack up the mileage in no time....

    Even better is that I may not have to put the higher grade stuff in?? Or is it always better to go with the best your wallet can take?

    Thanks!
    RR
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    I put 87 octane only in my intrigue and have gotten as high as 29 mpg at 79 mph cruise.

    I wouldn't put high octane in at all.

    I had a brand new Z28 in 1983 that got 13 mpg when i first bought it. All of sudden on one tankfull
    it jumped to 15mpg. On the next few tankfuls it level out at about 17 mpg. The car was noticeably quicker in acceleration also. This all happened in the first 1000 miles.

    My intrigue has gotten the same mileage ever since it was new, because those engines actually tightenen up a little bit. I have gone from using half a quart of oil every 3000 miles to no oil once it hit 20,000 miles.
  • peterjpeterj Member Posts: 8
    Hi all...
    It's been quite sometime since I've posted...pardon me if this has been discussed, I've only had time to skim the last couple hundred posts or so.

    Does anyone have info or know of a Chevy enthusiasts site that would follow developments relating to the scheduled freshening of the Impala for the 2003 model year? Probably everything is focused on 2002 for now, but I'm wondering what changes might be in store for 2003, prior to the brand new model (which I think is due for 2005).

    If you don't have any info on what's coming for 2003, what things would you like to see changed in a freshening?

    Wife and I just ordered a 2001.5 Passat Wagon, so it's not too early to start thinking about my new car which we'll get a couple years down the road!

    Best regards,
    PeterJ
  • tpkentpken Member Posts: 1,108
    KenBuzz - I've enjoyed playing with this feature in my 2000 Bonneville during my monthly trips from MAine to PA. The way mine works - and I assume it's the same as yours - when I have a CD in the player and press TRAF, it will search for a station broadcasting RDS compatible signal and if it finds one you will see < > on the display. Whenever a traffic report is coming the display changes to . When you see this, you hit the FM button and you'll hear the traffic broadcast. It does not automatically cut over the CD playing. Also - I find that the message often comes on well before the traffic update and can stay on long after it is finished. You hit the CD button to return to your CD music after listening to the traffic broadcast.

    I've enjoyed this feature but find there are not a lot of stations - even around Boston, Hartford, and New York that broadcast this way.

    Ken
  • rfor17rfor17 Member Posts: 3
    Thank you Ken buzz for the insight on the Trac button. I've seen my the traffic light come up on the display and when I press it, nothing happens. I don't get no type of display or bulletin. Oh by the way, I check and see about button #5. The radio is actually the least of my worries. I have a horrible noise when apply my brakes and when I my left turns. The car's front sounds like it's going to literally fall of. My dealership couldn't fix the cigarette lighter, (which I rarely use to charge the phone) so I wondering if they can handle a problem like this.
    Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has any sites where you can purchase Impala accessories for the car?
  • impala7impala7 Member Posts: 10
    Looking at buying a Impala Sedan.Silver with sunroof,abs,pref group 1 and cd player.Now any problems with the car? Or maybe I should say feelings about it?Thanks Bruce
  • mediumfrymediumfry Member Posts: 239
    Thanks for all the replies to my front end tapping problems. I think I'll ask the dealer to check BOTH the ISS and the CV joints. I suspect that though the symptoms point at classical CV joint problems, the majority of evidence points at the ISS.

    Unfortunately my local dealer has totally horsed up any jobs so far, both mechanically and interpersonally. I think I'll be going to a nearby town to get it looked at.

    Thanks again...
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    It would be strange for it to be the CV joints with so little miles on the car.

    Chevy evidently spent some time engineering this car for police and taxi duty. CV joints seem to be a non issue with these cars.

    The intermediate steering shaft is a supplier problem not a design one. My intrigue still has noises in it which seem to be related to the rubber grommet that is mounted above the struts. This is a design issue with the intrigue which is not present in the impala.

    Judging from your build date i feel that it is the intermediate steering shaft.

    I havealso found that the people on this site usually bat close to a .1000 when it comes to diagnosing problems with their cars. The dealers are usually in the .250-.400 range. Seriously.
  • duraflexduraflex Member Posts: 358
    Since you have little confidence in your dealer (rightfully so), then you should definitely take your car to another shop for a job as critical as the steering shaft.

    They're glad for the business - they get reimbursed from GM for warranty repairs.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    Geez, I thought a grommet was a dog on an English puppet cartoon... Not something under the hood! lol!!
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Any luck getting the amp replaced under warranty?
  • kenbuzzkenbuzz Member Posts: 99
    Rfor17 - Nathan (who goes by the moniker NightOwl here) has a very nice collection of Impala pages, including several How-tos and a collection of links to folks who offer accessories. (I ordered a bra from CarBras.com -- just came in last night)... http://home.hawaii.rr.com/impala/
  • roderacerroderacer Member Posts: 311
    Received the hoodcover I ordered from Chuck Hutton last night. Really simple accessory. Interesting that the directions advise removing the cover and cleaning under it "as often as possible" and that if it gets wet and the car is in "direct sunlight" for any prolonged period, to remove it.... Geez! I haven't installed it since our weather sucks for the past week here in Chi-Town, IL.

    After I clean the LS, I may just put it on. Haven't decided what's worse. A paint chip from a rock or minute scratches from dirt and silt getting under it.... HMMM. I think the latter would tick me off more.

    And the cover is embossed with the IMPALA text, not deer logo as I was led to believe....

    Thanks,
    RR
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    According to the NHTSA recall database, this notice ONLY applies to owners of '00 and '01 Impala 'Base' sedans equipped with the 3400 V6 engine and NO ABS brakes.


    www.nhtsa.org

    Go to "Recalls"

    Then select, 'Regional recalls'

    Select year 2001, make Chevrolet, then Impala.

  • jeffreyw1jeffreyw1 Member Posts: 145
    I own a 2001 white Impala LS. If I were in the market to buy a new car, I definitely would buy an Impala because it has been a proven winner. The base Impala and Impala LS sell for less than other sedans in its size group. Plus, the Impala has great looks and styling. The fuel economy of this size of car is outstanding and few cars its size can match its mpg numbers. The 2001 Impalas have had improvements made to them since the 2000's were built. The ride in the Impala is sporty. I hope this helps. May all have a great day!
  • rfor17rfor17 Member Posts: 3
    Night Owl - Ann (I just go by rfor17.) Excellent site, I'm going to go back and browse. Oh, by the way, I did look into button #5. I had a CD in the player and had the radio on, then I pressed #5 and nothing happened. In the manual, it states that the radio should automatically switch over to the CD, which it did not. Well let me go accessory shopping and see what I can find. I appreciate the respond back.
  • hvan3hvan3 Member Posts: 630
    Perhaps the owners of 2001 Impala should post their recommendations on the Edmunds.com new car forum. Next time when someone ask whether 2001 Impala is a great car, we can recommend them to read our ratings.


    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2001/chevrolet/impala/ls4drsedan38l6cyl4a/crr_1.html

  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    Put that Hood cover on asap and don't worry about it, I have never seen so much worrying about Specs of dust or specs of Railroad contaminants ?! It is just a Car, Enjoy your car, No amount of babying it will prevent the inevitable, Face it the Impala is going to age. So Life goes on. Everytime you drive your car the front end and windsheild get literally sandblasted so just Enjoy your car. Why wait. Just keep an eye on it. nothing is worth the lack of prevention and getting a Stone chip. I am all for cleaning my car, but .....Also the Hood piece from the beginning was said to have the "Impala" script and Not the Deer logo. DW
  • bh0001bh0001 Member Posts: 340
    Thanks for your little rant Don. I'm definitely guilty of obsessing and babying my car, sometimes forgetting that it is just that - a CAR. That being said, I sure hope it doesn't rain this weekend so I can wash Hooloo - she's filthy! ;-)
    Brad
  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Member Posts: 872
    I've noticed this before, but driving home last night for some reason I noticed how big and unobstructed the windshield is on the Impala. In my old Celica, my eyes fell just below the top of the windshield, so I often had to duck down at light to see when they changed. The Impala, in comparison, provides almost a "picture window" view. Just something to enjoy while we're all taking those long summer vacation drives across the country.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Very accurate observation!

    When are you coming down to Florida?

    PS: With that huge Impala windshield you can't miss the big Mouse's ears!
  • roderacerroderacer Member Posts: 311
    Don,

    For the past 13 days I have been ENJOYing my LS. I am not concerned with the blemishes that can occur while driving everyday like rock chips and such so much as I am worried about paint damage that I cause by installing an aftermarket part that the instructions even advise can cause scratches if not meticulously cared for.

    I see paint care the same way I view scheduled maintenance, i.e oil changes. Don, if that sweet dual cat-back exhaust system would have come with a big red tag warning that installing the system could cause damage to the engine, would you still install it? I'd think not.

    Second issue that I have is that you have the beautiful silver paint which will hide blemishes and scrathes tons better than my Black paint will.

    I just think it is a bit odd for a hodd "protector" to come with warnings about damaging the paint. *???*

    Will I put the cover on? The jury is still out. Either I put it on and get a line of scratches across the hood and then be FORCED to keep it on for the length of my ownership, or I don't put it on and deal with the "few" chips that may or may not occur....

    ....anybody want to buy a hood cover?? HA! Just kidding, but I just may have a brand new one for sale in the next couple of weeks.

    I am aware that is "just a car", but I am the one that has to look at it and drive it every day and I would like to keep it as new looking as possible, is that wrong? Nah.

    Brad- My car is begging me to wash it. But the rain keeps on falling. Maybe Sunday.

    Thanks, and keep that LS taken care of, Don!
    RR
  • roderacerroderacer Member Posts: 311
    If you are referring to the hood covers that GM makes for the Impala's, it does apparently have the ability to cause scratches. But that goes with any cover, I suppose. Just keep dirt from under it, and remove it when it gets wet and in direct sun for a prolonged period of time! LOL!

    RR
  • mlm4mlm4 Member Posts: 401
    I agree that no matter how hard you try, if the car is driven sooner or later a rock or something is going to ding it. Normally, I avoid front-end covers because they are a pain, you can't just leave them on all the time. However, here in Florida we have Love Bugs. If you don't know what those are, they are small flying insects that appear in giant quantities for about four weeks in May and September. The problem with these bugs, other than the fact that they are attracted to car emissions, is that the bacteria they carry is acidic and will etch the paint VERY quickly if not cleaned off immediately. Literally, within hours. It leaves a permanent bug splat mark in the clear coat and down to through the paint, and looks awful. I just ordered a cover for my Bonneville and my girlfriend's Alero because I'm tired of scrubbing bugs off the car every time I drive it. Other than that, I'd prefer not to deal with a cover.
  • stnelstnel Member Posts: 338
    Thanks! I was contemplating buying one but don't think I will. I can't see spending $65 on something that will scratch my car. I was talking about a cover that goes across the front of the car where the grill is. I think it's what everyone calls a "bra".
  • hvan3hvan3 Member Posts: 630
    One thing I don't like about the windshield is the way the rear view mirror is positioned. Depending on the height of your seat position, the rear view mirror can obstruct your vision when looking at the front right view.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Last year I bought a brand new front end cover or 'Car Bra' for my then new 2000 Impala LS. I bought it from 'Perfect Fit' for $84 plus shipping. Once I installed it, it was basically removing it every week or couple of weeks for regular cleanup maintenance. Never ever had a problem with it and it did provide lots of protection to the front end from road debris, rocks, etc. Bear in mind that I live in hot, muggy and world capital of UV sunrays, Miami. That car got consistent exposure to rain, dust, strong UV rays, you name it. Again never had a problem with the cover damaging the clear coat, the paint finish, nothing. Sometimes I would leave the the cover on for a month without removing it.

    When I returned the car to its maker last month, I removed the Car Bra and the front bumper and hood were as good as new..not a single scratch, chip...just clean perfection. Not paint mildew or any crap like that. The front end looked perfect. Then I realized that while a Car Bra might be a bit of an unconvenience and the car might not look so beautiful after all, it does provide genuine protection against the common elements even in adverse weather conditions. All it demands is periodic clean-up, that's all. The protection it provides is truly worth the *hassle*.

    Car Bras of the 1980's and those manufactured by 'Le Bra' or otherwise known as 'Le Crap' are nothing but garbage. The best Car Bra, bar none, in the market today is the Perfect Fit one which is also sold at GM dealerships as OEM equipment (For about $25 to $30 more). Old Car Bras had major issues with mildew formation, scratches, paint contamination, etc. The Perfect Fit Car Bra is truly one of the finest out there in terms of quality, fit and materials used as all these issues are a thing of the past.

    If you do care about the looks of your car and its resale value, the $84 Perfect Fit car bra is the best and cheapest insurance agains front end road damage.

    I will be installing the Car Bra on our new '01 LS this weekend.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    You are absolutely right. The Rear view mirror in the Impala is mounted very low in the field of vision. Now I am used to it, but at first it was sort of uncomfortable specially when making right hand turns. I don't see why can't GM install it a bit higher on the windshield? I think the only reason is the proximity of the overhead DIC, but again I don't see why not can this be corrected. Other GM W-body sedans that I have driven have the rear view mirror in the proper clearence, out of the critical field of view.
  • stnelstnel Member Posts: 338
    Do you have love bugs in Miami? I know they are common in the Gulf states but since Miami is on the Atlantic, I don't know if the bugs make their way over there. Anyway, that's what I'm mostly trying to protect my car from. Twice a year, they come out in droves and do a number on your car.

    I'll be picking up my license tag and registration from the dealership whenever it gets there. I'll ask them about ordering the Perfect Fit. I don't know if Autozone and places like that carry that brand but I may call them and ask. I'd rather save $25 if I could.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    You can order your Perfect Fit bra straight from their website:


    www.carbras.com


    Their car Bras are $84 plus $10 for shipping and handling to your doorstep.


    This is how the CarBra for your car looks like:


    http://www.carbras.com/perfectfit/bigcars/pontiac_1997-2000%20prix.htm


    Good luck

  • bh0001bh0001 Member Posts: 340
    I have a hood protector (lexan) on my 2001 LS. See the Accessories board for installation description. I'll be posting pictures in the near future.

    It's raining so hard here in Waterloo that I wish I had a bottle of car wash soap with me! :-0
    Brad
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    I second that. I am very tall and my forward vision is really obstructed in the impala, but not at all in the intrigue.

    My salesman called me today with a price on the navy blue impala that i drove earlier in the week.
    $400 under invoice!! I couldn't believe it. I told him to hold the car for me, but to look for a bronze mist without spoiler.

    I went by there after i talked to him on the phone to get financing info, and the car was not in its normal space.

    They told me that it was sold last night! The guy who gave him the price didn't know it had been sold. And they haven't been able to find me any navy blue cars without spoilers on the dealer locator.

    So now i am considering a white car. I don't really like white cars.
  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Member Posts: 872
    teo - heading down to Orlando in mid-June; looking more forward to the drive than the destination at this point (not that I won't have a blast at Disney; I just enjoy road trips!). Do you think the "Test Drive" would be too intense for a 4-year-old?

    Windshield - It looks like because of the slope of the windshield, and the position of the DIC, that they ended up putting the mirror more in the field of view than perhaps desirable. I keep thinking someday they'll do that "car of tomorrow" approach and have the mirror sticking up through a hole in the top of the car (sort of like a rear-facing periscope), but where would we hang our parking tags and high school tassels if they did that?.

    p.s. - my Impala goes braless - I'm not much on added paraphernalia on cars; I guess having matured during the 80's when everybody seemed to put a luggage rack on their trunks and such, it just turns me off. Maybe if the bras came in body-matching colors or something, I might find them more appealing. For now I'm content to wash the front end after a long trip, and accept the occasional chip or scratch. I've got more chips on my side mirrors than I do anywhere else; not much I can do to protect those.
  • stnelstnel Member Posts: 338
    I looked up the web page for Perfect Fit and may be buying one.

    nosirrahg - When I looked up the web page for Perfect Fit, they do come in body-matching colors. I didn't check the price though.

    bh0004 - Send us some of your rain! We're in a bad drought. I've been wanting to wash my car but the water pressure has been too low during the day. I'm afraid that I wouldn't be able to rinse all the soap off.
  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    The body color matched Perfect Fit bra used to cost $300, vs. $85 for black.
  • stnelstnel Member Posts: 338
    That's a significant price difference. Black will suit me just fine.

    A question I wanted to ask is that the temp gage shows that a temp of 245 degrees is when one needs to shut off the engine for overheating. That seems a little high to me. I've got the aluminum cylinder heads and wondered if I should shut off the engine at a lower temp because of this. Does 245 degrees sound high or should I think of pulling off the road and cutting off the engine at a lower temp?

    I got caught in a traffic jam a couple of days ago (stop and go at 5 mph) and watched the temperature go up to 210. I was really getting nervous but then the second fan kicked in and the temp didn't get any higher. Fortunately, I got to an exit soon after and took an alternate route home.
  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    I would not suggest buying a new car if you do not like it color. You will see the paint for many years...

    Spoiler is much less important, even while I also would prefer the clean lines. Some cars look really bad with spoilers, but not Impala. Additionally, the spoiler helps when backing it up in a tight place - the high trunk lid notwithstanding.
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