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Toyota RAV4 pre-2006



  • bett1ebett1e Posts: 16
    I will go to to the dealership before church tomorrow and post what the options are. The salesman didn't know ABS was included and then made it seem like a big deal. I would appreciate the help. Thanks.
  • I find TMV and pricing helpful when I buy cars. I like to pay a few hundred over dealer cost. Of course for hot cars you pay more. I go to the dealer's lot on Sunday and try to find the car I want. The last two times I found an Echo and a Rav4 that we wanted at a dealer close enough to home. I noted the options and all sticker costs. Went home and priced them out using above two web sites. Went back on Monday. Told the salesperson what car I wanted, he gave me his lowest price, I told him what I wanted to pay, and about 60 seconds later we agreed on a price. I said I wanted to pay the average of Edmunds TMV and carsdirect. He came within $150. No nonsence deal from a no nonsence dealer.
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    I have found that the best way to shop a RAV4 is to visit one or two (or more if time permits) dealers.

    Write down all the options on the window sticker of the car you like.

    Write down both MSRP and invoice prices for each option, and compute the total price of the car, MSRP and invoice. This will give you an idea of how close the paid price is close to the invoice price.

    I have found that you can buy a 2004 RAV4 for close to invoice at this time of year (lower than the TMV price) in central NJ area; dealers average around 10 in stock.
  • I bought my RAV4 on the day after Thanksgiving. It's a basic model, titainum color, with roof rack, cargo cover, floor mats, and mud guard. Come with dash board rattle for free. I paid $20,000 + tax and title fee. It may be a couple hundred dollar higher than average. It's below MSRP anyway. The first 2 tank of gas was around 23 MPG.
  • We bought a 2002 RAV4 (wife) a year ago and did not get the free dash rattle. So I was happy when I bought my 2004 and did get the free dash rattle. Thought they would have ended that free promotion already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • bett1ebett1e Posts: 16
    all the options. I couldn't find the invoice amount on a couple of them. I have contacted another dealer to see if he can get me a lower price. The Blue Spectra sport seems like it may be a top seller but I don't want to get taken by a dealer misrepresenting the price paid if they didn't actually pay that price.
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    There are two DIOs that I know of that are not listed on this site:

    CF Carpet Floor Mats/Cargo Mat $112/$184 MSRP
    GN Cargo Net $34/$49
  • Edmunds does not list all options on the TMV page. lists most or all of them.

    Best thing to do using Edmunds/,IMVHO, is to compute MSRP and dealer invoice on the exact car you want.
  • Auto trans 973
    Roof rack 176
    5 piece carpet set 112
    Mudguards 48 cargo net 34
  • So far I've gone to 38. How high can I go without breaking the speakers?
  • bett1ebett1e Posts: 16
    I think I have most of the dealer costs now. There is one option that I don't want and that is ToyotoGuard which is listed at $699.00 but I may have to stuck it up and just deal with it.
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    Is that the extended warranty?

    I have not seen this one listed on the window stickers here.

    If you don't want it, just tell them to delete it; you can always buy one from the dealers who can accommodate you.
  • Everything is negotiable. If that's an extended warranty, just say you don't want it period. Same with window etching. On my last three cars they had window etching pre-printed on the sales order. I just said no and they were fine with that - even though one car had the etching already. If Toyotaguard is paint sealer and undercoasting, etc, say you won't pay for it as you don't need it.

    If they persist that you must buy it, go to another dealer. No, run to another dealer. In the last few years I've bought or helped people buy many cars. Some dealers are great, some are terrible. When you find a good one, remember them.
  • bett1ebett1e Posts: 16
    and rental car program; it may be okay or not. All Alabama Toyota dealers add that. I will do the invoice without that and see if I can get them to come down. If not, I'll just go somewhere else. Thanks.
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    A car buying site lists the cargo net as a standard feature. Is that right?

    How about carpet floor mats? Does the "L" upgrade include the carpet floor mats?

    Insiders, please help.
  • I'm not sure about your state. In Chicago, both the cargo net and carpet floor mats are not standard feature. My RAV4 come with the following options:
      Roof rack, remote entry, day time driving light, floor mats, cargo cover, and mud guard.
      I bought the bug defector and visors from pepboy for $100.
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    Thanks for sharing the info.

    I think a few car pricing sites that I visited do not have the most up-to-date info about the 2004 RAV4 options.

    One site listed the cargo net as a standard feature; another site includes the carpet floor mats in the "L" package.
  • AWD RAV 4 "L" or Subaru Forester XS. Anyone else come down to that choice? Any advice?
  • I've just paid $20,500 for 4WD RAV4 including: 50 state Emissions, Roof Rack, Front & Rear Mudgurds, Rear Privacy Glass, Carpet Floor Mats. Did I overpay?
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    According to this site, an auto 4WD Titanium Metallic one with your options but without the carpet floor mats (there is no carpet floor mats option on this site) has a TMV of $20,596 in my area.

    The 2004 RAV4 is a well built car from Japan.

    Enjoy the car!
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    I have no experience with the XS, only comparing the two based on the data availabe on this site.

    The 2004 RAV4 L has stability+traction control, autio control on steering wheel, privacy glass, and a bit better mpg.

    The XS has automatic climate control, heated seats, standard side air bags, 6-CD stereo, and a bit more power.

    I recommend a test drive of each. :)
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    When one buy a new Toyota (e.g., a RAV4), does the person get a "Toyota Care" package in the mail that includes 3 free oil changes, one-year road side assitance, etc.?
  • When I bought my RAV4 from Planet Toyota in Chicago, I asked for free oil change but the account manager said "We don't have anything like that". So, I think it really depends on the dealer.
  • Happy New Year from the south! Just celebrated the new year by purchasing a AWD RAV4, with the 5 speed stick. Though many would choose the automatic, I chose the stick because we have a weekend home in the NC mountains, and the road up is very winding, and rough. I like the extra control the stick gives you. And by the way, do you other RAV4 owners know that with the 5 speed, the front and rear wheels go 50/50, whereas with the auto in the 4wd the traction ratio is 70/30.
    Read that in one of many reviews, which I thought gave an extra plus to the stick, not to mention it is about $1000 less.

    Have only reviewed about 10pages or so of this post, but I would say the larger 4 cyl. is great, and that I do not have any dash rattle. As to this raging debate about the tire carrier and the rear end crash thing, I must agree with several of you who have observed: "just dont' back into anything at 5 mph....." and as for someone bumping you, do as I did and get the trailer hitch package, and keep the bar and ball attached, which gives at least some extension for others to make contact with. Since I dont tow anything, I may consider switching out for the bar fender pictured awhile back. I will post milage after the 1000 mile breakin...have only 500 so far. Looking forward to sharing driving experiences.
  • suvshopper4suvshopper4 Posts: 1,110
    Good luck with your new RAV4 ride.

    Like Will Rogers, I only know what I read, and I've read several times that the RAV's front/rear drive split is 50/50 full-time, and no distinction MT or AT.
    I've also read that one other vehicle (Forester) does vary with MT or AT.
  • My 2004 RAV4 4WD with less than 1000 miles has the "dash/whindshield rattle" when the car goes over a pothole or a no-so-small bump.

    The dealer fixed the problem to some extend, but not completely fixed. It's a issue not so obvious, so a couple of times the dealer just said "no rattle found, your car is perfect."

    If your 2004 RAV4 has the same issue, please let your dealer know. I hope Toyota will issue a TSB because of your complains.

    Other than this issue, the new 2004 RAV4 is a very nice car.
  • Can anyone tell me how much each one cost before taxes? And which one is better in durability? I appreciate any and all responses!

    BTW, how much is APR rates if my credit is 758? My uncle said about 4% but I just want to make sure before I negotiate with my dealer.

    I appreciate your help!
  • The sports package is a $625 MSRP upgrade vs. the L, which is a $1,030 MSRP upgrade.

    The S package includes the hood scoop, "S" badge, sport fabric, overfenders, heated color keyed exterior mirrors, color keyed door handles and tubular roof rack with stainless steel finish.

    The L package includes leather steering wheel and shift knob, heated color keyed exterior mirrors, front fog lamps, rear privacy glass, tonneau cover, "L" badge, color keyed door handles, bumpers and molding and color keyed full spare tire cover.

    Fo me, I don't like the hood scoop (the hood scoop does not increase the HP).
  • I suppose in the best or worst of times second guessing Will Rogers would be un-American. Like so many of our neighbors on this post, I checked and double-checked the Forester too.
    So, I may have confused the two, and sorry. Nevertheless, I am still enjoying the stick, and thank goodness, no rattle monster yet.......
    As for hood scoops, lets leave them on the Forester turbo where they belong, along with the need for premium gas. Happy driving.
  • Thanks for help rav4driver!

    I just came back from the dealer and he said he'll sell it to me for $21,500. Destination fee included, I just have to add taxes.

    Do you think $21,500 is a good price to pay?

    BTW, would you know how much the % APR would be? I have excellent credit. Just want to ask her first so I don't get ripped off.

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