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Has any Amigo or Honda Passport owner experienced a problem with their original transmission needing replacement before 100,000 miles? I was just told today, after a brief electronic test, that my 99 Amigo w/91K miles on it needs a completely new transmission. The repair tech said this model's transmission unit (same as Honda Passport) is known to go bad and that he'd replace it with a more reliable 4L30E unit for $2,500.00 plus tax. I don't know exactly what type of original transmission "unit" is in it now, but I've found the 4L30E on line for $1,695.00. It's likely the shop can get it cheaper (may already have one) and they're charging me over $800.00 for labor. Not being a mechanic, my logic is telling me to find out for sure if the "entire" transmission needs to be replaced or if it's just a component that can be replaced. If I pay this tech $200.00 he can take it apart and make that determination, but the realistic side of me knows he's going to tell me it needs to be completely replaced regardless.
The symptoms have been gradually worsening low gear catching or lurching during acceleration. There's also some sticking when I release the brake and accelerate. Since I just had my brakes done for the first time, I've ruled them out.
I've really loved my Amigo (other than a faulty fuel gauge indicator, a restart problem on humid days and a mysterious interior, front floorboard leak that has moved from the driver to the passenger side of the car when it rains - dealer couldn't, or didn't try, to find the source) and have paid for preventative maintenance regularly over it's lifetime, but I'm thinking of skipping the separation phase and filing for a complete divorce. Before I make such a harsh decision, I'd like to know if anyone else out there has experienced the same problem and if they can offer advice on paying for a more diagnostic procedure on the transmission components vs. a complete replacement. Thanks!
Jmingo
Had a Toyota that 'vibrated and hummed' when turning left, sometimes. After 4 trips to 4 different garages, and a rear-end teardown... the problem was finally traced to a bad wheel bearing on the passanger rear. New bearing pressed on... no problems. (was really considering replacing rear-end... but at the tear-down, it was it GREAT shape to have 108K on it)
Any help is appreciated. The battery seems to be in good condition. Thanks
-Ryan Endres
Once you get the sleeve off, use a rachet and socket with whatever extension will work (might be helpful to have a flex extension to get to one or two) to remove the plugs. Install the plugs and reconnect coil packs, etc. Folks have suggested using anti-seize compound on the new plug threads to minimize the chance of problems if you need to remove in the future... Sounds like a good idea to me.
I did have one coil pack that did not reconnect to the connection wire good at first and cause a CEL and rough running. Once I corrected that everything went back to normal.
Suggestions on plugs to use. Use the same that came from the factory. Mine had Champions, but I think 3 different ones are listed in the owners manual. Using alternative plugs WILL be a bad experience. I went with the Champions since they were maybe $5 each and the Denso's were running maybe $15 each. Champion number for the 2000 Trooper is RC10PYP4 aka 7346.
Good luck,
Bill
Eric Schultz
Appreciate your help though
Thanks.
Thank you for your time.
Cliff
Please let me know and appreciate your help.
It appears to be a problem with the starter solenoid itself. Does this need to be lubricated or periodically serviced? We have never had a problem with the Transmission gear indicator or other sensors. After reading through the forums re starting problems, I am uncertain about the fix and wonder if the solenoid can be replaced without pulling the starter?
Did you figure out what is the source of the noise? I have exactly the same noise and could not show it to the service technicians. I would really appreciate your help.
thanks,
It's been a couple of weeks now....and I've notice something that I've haven't noticed before. When the Trooper shifts into OD, the vehicle shudders (i.e., small vibrations). It doesn't happen every time, just when the RPMs are low. For example, if I take away quickly from a stop and keep up the revs, the vehicle shifts smoothly, as expected. However, if I take away easy and keep the RPMs lower (I would consider this "normal" driving), the vehicle will occasionally shudder once it goes into overdrive. It doesn't do it all the time, but it does it enough to cause concern.
I took it back to the dealer and they test drove it and checked all the codes. Everything came back normal.
One of the main reasons I bought the Trooper was for the outstanding warranty. However, I would rather not have to use it to replace the tranny, etc.
Has anyone else noticed their Trooper shudders when going into OD. If so, what did you do to fix the problem?
I drove the Trooper a few miles the next day, and the Check light was still flashing (note that the back wheel indicator for 2WD mode has remained solid the entire time), but again, no difference was noted while driving. I even enaged TOD for awhile, and moved the manual shifter into 4-Low and then back into 4-High, and no problems were noted (other than the Check light still flashing).
As I was 200 miles away from home and had noticed no problems, I drove home yesterday (about 200 miles). The Check light flashed the entire time, but the Trooper drove fine, and I actually got somewhat better mileage than normal. This morning I took the Trooper in to my local crooked Isuzu dealer (see post #2609 in this thread) - the one who told me nearly 2 years and 30K miles ago that I needed a new tranny right away - to see if they could at least pull the code for me. They wanted $95 to do that, so I said "Thanks, but no".
So, anyone have any ideas? I'm going to take it in to my in-laws' mechanic in a couple of days (hopefully he can pull the code at least), but I was wondering if bluedevils or anyone else had ever gotten any resolution on this one. Thanks...
Then the problem goes away for a day sometimes a week.
I had all the fluids changed. I do not have any check engine LED on so I have no code.
Is this a hard part to change? Is it expensive?
Thanx for the info.
1 - 60,000 miles on her
2 - starter just went
3 - driving home from the mountains lost a clutch - took it in (wasn't clutch just cylinder) while in had the timing belt replaced - go to pick it up and is knocking like crazy which I knew was the tensioner - I was stranded at the mechanics so I took the car home - while driving home noticed the revs were off and that the vehicle was reacting like redline at about 4.5 rpms - there was also no torque whatsover - get to my house - pop the hood and the coolant is full of oil and the smell of an overheated engine was apparant. Man - this has all happened in like 2 1/2 weeks - the tow truck is coming tomorrow.
Questions - 1. Coolant - think it is head gasket - 3rd major problem - is this common
2. did the timing belt need to be replaced or was it the tensioner all along - it was like 250 to have the timing done etc! - what are the estimated costs for this solution - and the gasket if anyone knows !
3. Clutch - feels loose since it went - there was fluid in it but with the milage where it is am not sure it could be worne ? Any thoughts.
4. What the hell else can go wrong on it and why is it happening at 100,000 kms!!!!
3.2 Litre SOHC 5 speed - black - was soon to be reaised with 31 and calmini 2 inch lift but am hesitating ? Although once done will just be a winter veh. For the first time in our relationship I am mad at my trooper - and the mechanic I took it to for being such an idiot (when the starter went I had a tune up done and none of this was noticed !!! ) -
Thanks
when I put it in four high and move forward I hear a clunk clunk almost grinding noise then it goes away. When I put it in reverse I get the same noise. Now its stuck in 4 high and will not go into 4 low or 2 wheel drive. I have parked it and am afraid to drive it. Any one have any ideas as to what the problem is and the solution? Please help! I am mechanically inclined. :sick:
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First, the clunk when changing directions should be a metalic click-click or several clicks. That is the sound of the automatic hubs engaging. They disengage when you change directions, so another set of click-click then a slight pause then click-click to engage in the other direction.
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Second, I suspect also that you have been driving around in tight turns on dry pavement in 4wd. The Trooper has awesome off road capability because the transfer case is locked, that means the front drive shaft MUST turn the same speed and direction as the rear drive shaft. When you turn, the front wheels go a different speed from the rear wheels, this builds up tension in the drive train until a wheel slip occurs to relieve it. The 1992 Trooper's 4wd system is for offroad or slippery roads only. You can go in and out of 4wd while moving in a straight line without changing directions after the hubs are locked in, use this to drive on roads with patches of ice and snow. Switch back to 2wd when the pavement is dry to avoid binding in the 4wd drivetrain.
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To get back out of 4wd, if you can't force the lever with a reasonable force, you need to relieve the tension a bit. You can provide a slippery spot by placing a couple sheets of wax paper on top of each other in front of a front tire then drive onto it, do not stay by the wheel when doing this, you are releasing stored energy when the drive train unloads. Repeat if needed until the tension is released while trying to shift out of 4wd. I think jacking up one wheel would work, but would be dangerous when the energy of the tension in the drive train is released.
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The good news: If I am correct with this analysis, your 4wd system is in good shape. Something to watch for is to make sure to use the correct grease when greasing the front hubs, too thick or too thin will effect the autolock function. Also, if you don't like the automatic hubs, manual hubs are available at a fairly low price, but then you have to get out and lock em when you need them.
I took the Trooper to get the oil changed and the tech advised me to get a transmission flush service. I'm rather clueless about automotive things, so I'm unsure as to whether this $99 service is necessary or even good for my Trooper.
Any advice, please?
Thank you,
Sareena
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
thanks
Gus
Good luck ..hope this helps
Gus
1995.5 Isuzu Rodeo LS, < 120 K miles, Manual(Stick Shift), Single owner.
I bought 1995.5 Isuzu Rodeo LS in Dallas Texas in January 1996. I was a happy camper so far. It has exceeded my expectations for me for the past 9 years. I have done minimal maintenance on the car. This year looks really bad, now it is due for major repair. I am not an expert on any car issue. I need lot of help.
Last week I started getting check engine light on intermittently. I am not sure why was that. AC would stop working whenever that light came on. Sadly I kept driving for couple of days rather than taking it to a local mechanic or to a dealership.
Just yesterday car came to complete stop near intersections and traffic lights when I slowed down OR when that car is idling. Some how I got it started 3 times and came home. Also ALL of the engine lights near the speedometer would be on when it stopped. Engine noise does not sound smooth. Steering fluid is JUST below minimum. Radio also has stopped working.
Also car is due for 120K mile service, (last major service was 60K). I am not sure what is going on. I have done oil changes fairly regularly. And I have not done any other service at all apart from them. Any tips or ideas, before I take it to mechanic. I will be taking to mechanic may be on Monday. I may have to get it towed. I do not feel comfortable driving it until major things are fixed.
Here are some more details:
Looks like lug nuts and its rods are made of soft metal or Sams Club or Walmart folks or my local mechanics who do the tire rotation messed it up by wrong threading or by using wrong power tools. Pretty much all of them have to be replaced. Expensive!
Bear Joint and Valve cover needs replacement.
Timing belt change done at 60K. Next one is due.
Several times window up and down mechanism fixed
Alternator switch fixed
3 times all tire changed
No brake replacement done yet. 80% worn out. I have to replace them now.
No shock replacement done yet. 100% worn out. Any ideas as which one to replace them with? It was always a rough ride for me from pretty much from day one. I accepted that as part of driving Rodeo. I really would prefer smoother ride. I am an NOT an off road driver at all.
Near the back wheel, I think axle seal is leaking that needs to be fixed. I am afraid that has been the case for at least an year. Hopefully whole oil may not been drained?
Speedometer light is broken, I heard it is little expensive to replace those, as one has to remove lot of stuff to get to them .
Trunk glass door spring has stopped working. How do I find the replacement. Cassette player stopped working couple of years back.
When do I do the following changes or fixes to these?
Tension
Water Pump
Transmission Fluid
Serpentine
Head Gasket
Coolant
Fuel Filter
Front and Back Differential Fluid
Replace PCV
Any ideas on these from the experts? Thanks in advance.