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Model: 2005 Odyssey
Trim Level: EX Automatic Transmission with Leather, Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™ and DVD Rear Enter
Exterior Color: Ocean Mist Metallic
Interior Color: Gray Leather
Accessories: Fenderwell Trim, 3rd Row Sunshade, Cargo Board, Cross Bars, All-Season Floor Mats, Fog Lights, Back-Up Sensors, BACK-UP SENSOR ATTACH, Table Leg Kit, Moonroof Visor
I am willing to wait up to 3 months. But I want a deal that is below or at MSRP. I live in the seattle WA region.
Could I get a good deal with all these options? Don't want to install options myself. should I assume that MSRP is a win-win situation with the dealer? Also which dealer is the most reasonable in the Seattle/Tacoma/olympia area.
That said, all my research went toward an EX-L with RES/NAVI, so I couldn't say whether you got a good price on an EX. I know in Colorado I found dealer fees to be $299 on an Ody, with a $29.50 "filing fee."
Am looking at the cargo options on the Ody
1. Cargo Organizer $59 - Looks like a glorified cloth box with tie down straps.
2. Cargo Mat $99 - A Rubber Mat with the Ody logo on it.
3. Cargo Tray $109 - Came as Cargo Mat but with a lip on it (from what I can tell)
4. Cargo Board $298 (!) - Plastic lid in two sections to cover storage area.
Are any of these worth the price? $99 for a rubber mat seems like a lot. The cargo tray with the lip to prevent spills looks ok but $109???
What is the opinion of those who have seen these items?
H&A has the genuine accessories for the following prices:
Cargo Organizer: $42 (Honda retail $59)
Cargo Mat: $72 (Honda retail $98)
Cargo Tray: $82 (Honda retail $109)
Cargo Board: $238 (Honda retail $298)
I ended up getting my accessories from them - especially when the dealer wanted to charge me $50 to "install" the Cargo Mat and Tray Uh, excuse me "install fee" for putting down a floor mat? I installed in less than 15 seconds as I recall.
The mat and tray are worth it. I'm very glad I have them.
We have the ivory interior so the all-season mats are very handy (though I wish they came in ivory instead of only black). The tray allows you to put the third row seat down without removing thetray, though I have found it does "pinch" the tray underneath. Don't know if this might be a long-term wear issue. The mat is a mat. No biggie there.
3. Cargo Tray $109 - Came as Cargo Mat but with a lip on it (from what I can tell)"
Cargo tray serves different purpose from the Cargo Mat. The former is for the protecting the storage in the well behind the 3rd row of seats when it's up (although you don't have to take it out to fold the 3rd row).
The Cargo Mat is for protecting the surface when the 3rd row is folded into the well.
While I personally find such a rule patently ridiculous, it should have applicability across the board IMHO.
Now, back to the discussion. :-)
How much did you pay for your van, and when did you buy it?
Could you email me (address in my profile) with the name of your sales person?
Thanks.
Bystander6
I wonder if future higher interest rates will cause demand to drop and thus provide more supply?
I recently bought a touring in NJ. Is anybody having trouble with the compass not working? My wife brought it back to the dealer and they told her that the odyssey is as new to them as it is to her. They spent ~ 45 minutes reading the owners manual trying to get it right...been there done that! We they never fixed it. Where the compass is supposed to be, I just have "--". It annoys the hell out of me!
As for Mileage I am getting nowhere near the 20-28mpg as advertised. I am not even getting 20 on highway!
Good luck buying and driving the new odysseys!
I think I got a reasonable deal and they made a reasonable profit. Because it took so long, they threw in the splashguards, wheel locks, and aftermarket mats without my asking.
About a week before pickup, I went over financing with the salesguy and he quoted me 4% as the best interest rate. The day before pickup he confirmed that rate with me.
When I met with the F&I lady I was told the rate was 5.9%. I asked about the discrepancy and the salesman came in and apologized that he had misquoted me a rate that was not available through his own fault.
Maybe I'm a sucker, but I beleived him and accepted it. It does leave a bad taste in my mouth for what was an otherwise satisfactory buying experience.
Is 5.9% in fact the best rate offered by Honda on their Oddysey? Should I have tried to make them stand by their original quote?
Personally, whenever a dealer pulls any funny stuff I head on down the road.
Now I need accessories :-)
What dealership in San Antonio quoted you $28600 for the EX-L? Any other advice from SA? Looking to buy soon here in SA. Thanks.
Model: 2005 Odyssey
Trim Level: EX Automatic Transmission with Leather, Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™ and DVD Rear Enter
Exterior Color: Ocean Mist Metallic
Interior Color: Gray Leather
Accessories: Fenderwell Trim, 3rd Row Sunshade, Cargo Board, Cross Bars, All-Season Floor Mats, Fog Lights, Back-Up Sensors, BACK-UP SENSOR ATTACH, Table Leg Kit, Moonroof Visor
Be firm but not rude when dealing with the salesman. I told him he had 10 mins to give me an answer, there was not need to waste my time and his. I told him if they could not meet that offer I was not willing to negotiate. I was not expecting them to accept it but was pleased when they did.
Thanks in advance
Bought EXL for $28500 + TT&L in Dallas with tinted front windows, pinstripe and VIN etching (things that I can do without), not the best among dealers in the area, but nobody has my color, Slate Green with Gray interior. Got offer earlier from an out of town dealer for $500 over invoice and have one driven in from Louisiana, some 200 miles away, then have to drive home for 100 miles, not a good idea for not-broken-in engine IMHO. Could have waited but in-laws are coming.
The small dealers you mentioned may get six!
The model you want is BY FAR, the hardest one to get right now. You have made even more difficult by zeroing in on one color!
So, I hope you can now see, just how slim your chances of even FINDING the specific Odyssey you are looking for much less expecting a deep discount on one. Almost all incoming Odysseys are pre-sold before they hit the lots.
It's very frustrating for buyers and sellers alike!
On a positive note, I learned last week that Honda has recognized the sharply increased demand for the NAVI-DVD models and will be increasing the production of those models.
But for now, the pipeline is pretty dry.
The more flexible you are on color the greater your chances of finding one. That Ocean Blue hasn't been all that popular so dealers aren't apt to order many if any at all.
Could you please clarify? You seem to be contradicting yourself.
(Maybe someone else should ask this questions, since Isell 'uses the scroll wheel' for most of my posts....)
Here's how it works...
A dealer finds out he can order say, 20 Odysseys for delivery in two months.
Based on what's selling the best, he carefully places an order by model and color. He may order ONE LX as an example because they don't sell nearly as well as the other models. Since he's only ordering one he will more than likely ask for the most popular color...silver.
Maybe, out of the 20 Odysseys, he will order six NAVI-DVD's and Honda will change that number to four. He will pick what he thinks are the four most popular colors.
Like I said, it's frustrating to have eager customers and little product.
Thanks!
I was able to do this with my 1993 plymouth grand voyager back in 1993.
I have a couple of questions:
Obviously, the Honda I'm interested in is close to the top of the line with lots of additional options [I realize the touring is top of the line and NOT EXL with nav/dvd] . In addition I would probably be interested in the extended service warranty. At my calculation, the MSRP cost of this Ody would be close to $40,000.
I would think I could negotiate a better deal with a fully loaded Ody than a basic model. Since there is a lot more profit for the dealer than a basic model. Why wouldn't they want to bend over backwards to get my business with that much extra profit? Unless they have enough other people falling over themselves to buy at any price.
I realize the dealer would need to make a profit so it would need to be a win/win situation. The basic question that haunts me is what is a "fair" profit for the dealer.
Also, I am wondering if I should wait until the first 2005 Ody initial defects are solved. Obviously, every new model has some defects which are corrected in subsequent orders.
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/download.htm?x=0tekxgl_eoyyqkz_ttky3- - &y=Mon%2520Jan%252024%252006%253A11%253A26%25202005
download the Buyer's Offer Spreadsheet. Mention is made in it that 3-4% profit is generally considered fair AFTER holdbacks are removed.
Also check out the Chapter's on buying at the bottom of the page. Best of luck....
Of course, a dealer makes a profit on the accessories and the shop get's paid to install them. As a result, they may be willing to take a skinnier deal on the Odyssey itself.
As far as a "fair" profit. My personal suggestion would be not to be haunted by this. Instead, I would focus on the VALUE of the car to you. The price either represents a good value for the dollars paid or it does not. You will soon forget what you paid anyway. Good Luck!
I wonder how many businesses could survive on that kind of margin?
Ever heard of OVERHEAD, B&O taxes etc?
It's always the MARKET that determines pricing and not some website.
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Posters who drove home a great deal through tough negotiating, resolve and/or great consumer research, may--after all--end up unhappy with their Odysseys. I hope not, but that may be so. And in the end, unsophisticated folks like me who "give" the dealership $500 over invoice (or more) probably won't care that, at some point, someone halfway across the country stalked the product or pounced on a desperate out-of-state dealership to secure an Odyssey at invoice (or less). We 'invoice + 500+' buyers shouldn't lose sleep so long as, months from now, we can each simply say: "I love my Odyssey."
But then again, that ain't no fun. Let the quests for the BEST DEALS continue!!! Happy Hunting to All!
Unfortunately, it does not really apply given the model you seek - the EX-L R&N might be the most in demand Odyssey model right now, at least in most markets.
What I would suggest is to negotiate the lowest price you can on one. Then start adding the options to it. Do some research first to calculate their cost. Use them as a lever on the transaction. Let's say the dealer wants $2000 extra for all of items you want. You know his cost for these items is, say, $1200. You want him to sell them for as close to his cost as you can. He's already making his profit on the vehicle and may treat a reduced profit on the accessories as simply the cost of closing the transaction.
It appears Honda has already caught some of the intitial problems. Others may surface. I know from personal experience that Honda (unlike some other manufacturers) does stand behind its products. If you need to buy now and want the Odyssey I would not let it being the first year of production stand in the way.
When I buy something...anything...I don't care one twit what the store selling it paid for it. Makes no difference. If I think it's a good value for the money then I'm happy.
Others agonize after they buy something because they fear someone else just may have paid less.
Not me...I don't care. Life is short.
I'm still a little confused by your explanation. I know firsthand that Ford and BMW both let a customer walk in and order the exact car they want (color, package, etc). The car gets built by the factory, shipped to the dealer 2 months later, and the customer pays and picks it up. In the case of BMW, you can even go to South Carolina and pick it up from the factory. Maybe the customer puts a deposit down, maybe not. Are you saying that Honda does not work this way? I can understand that they don't for hard to find Odysseys, but what about other plentiful models?