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not from Florida, so our votes were counted). We
are awaiting delivery of a 2001LX in the next 14
days. We are not obligated to accept it until
after test driving and approving.
My question is this: what should we look for?
What should we do during the test drive? We have 4
kids and can't afford to pay $25,074 for a van
that is going to break down. We have owned Honda
Civics twice and loved them, but it seems that the
Odysseys have a lot of bad posts here.
I would really appreciate your help. They also
have a Sienna we could have, but it is $7,000 more.
The only other option is to buy American and we
want to steer clear of doing that.
Thanks so much for your help, it is very much
appreciated.
What you need to spend time looking for is any dents or paint scraps or defects in the glass or tears or spots in the upholstery or floor mat. After you drive it away the dealer may say you put those in there and he may not fix them. I asked the dealer to look the car over for me and he found one dent and fixed it. He was able to eliminate the dent with out painting over it. I looked the car over for about 30 minutes and found nothing wrong. For all my other four American cars I always found a list of things wrong.
By the way all the overseas votes which came in within 10 days after the November 7 election have been added to the two candidates total, in accordance with Florida law.
I work for Toyota Motor Sales (Headquartars in Torrance, Ca.) and am able to purchase any Toyota or Lexus about $3-4 hundred over what dealers pay and we opt for the Honda Odyssey EX.
I ride (and get to sometimes drive)in the Sienna everyday to and fro the different buildings that there are in Torrance (shuttle service for us) and the Sienna bottom out over speed bumps and dips. That and they are a little smaller, and don't have the 3rd seat that drops and hides. But other wise, it is a good van.
If you get the Odyssey, use this checkout form to check your Odyssey before driving off the lot.
good luck
Dick
http://www.1netweb.com/checklist.htm
The wife is taking it in for the door sticking, excessive frnt tire wear and an explanation as to what Honda is doing about the tranny noise above 45mph. (I'm still getting the,"We're waiting to hear from Honda TechLine" story. - I called the regional office Friday and it took over an hour to get the guy to commit (?) to having someone contact the dealer and TechLIne to get me an update different from the above. Its been about 7months and the same line is getting old. I'd like to at least hear what they've decided it's not.)
Interesting observation on the Sienna ride. Consumer Reports rates the ride as very good whereas for the Odyssey as good. I also prefer the Odyssey ride to the Ford Windstar ride which is rated very good. That is another indication that the ride on a car is somewhat subjective and one persons good ride will be another persons very good ride.
I use to work in El Segundo next door to Torrance.
Unlike Trevor, et al, who offer much helpful info and advice to the posters here, you offer nothing but your self-serving desire to sell more cars.
Please take your sales pitches elsewhere.
However for an auto dealer to come on this board and just say he is "Honest Abe, trust me", adds no information, that anyone here could get any benefit out of, and could be accurately labeled spam.
Thanks
If you do a search on google or yahoo using carseat and LATCH you'll get an article or several that describe the system. Consumer Reports' most recent evaluation of carseats also covers this topic.
The Cosco Triad seat is for children up to 35 lbs. rearfacing, and 22 to 40 pounds forward facing.
Hope this helps!
Susan
Getting a regular seat into the Ody isn't bad and the seats same to stay in safely. The LATCH/ISOFIX should have happened a long time ago for all cars and seats. I hate those clips/towels/pool noodles/readjusting it takes to keep the car seats in right. The one time it was perfect was when my town had checkpoint at the mall. A huge state trooper climed into my Accord, put all his weight on the seat and another pulled on the belt so tightly. It was rock solid and stayed that way for 6 months since I refused to take it out.
Your advertisement says that the 2001 Models have handles on the back of the front seats
at the top that are in the way of the organizer, and it will not fit as shown.
However, our 2000 model has handles on the back of the front seats also, so the organizer
hangs almost to the floor and will not work as shown in your picture.
Also, we wonder if the picture on your website is actually showing the organizer in an Odyssey,
because the headrests are different than in our van.
We are very disappointed that this organizer does not work in our van as shown, and regret that we will have to return it.
You may want to consider re-wording your description of this item on your web site.
I highly recommend them. Best $8 I ever spent.
Any ideas welcome.
Thank you.
A suggestion to Honda or perhaps to Honda dealers: Give customers who put down a deposit a copy of the manuals. It would give them something to read/drool over while they wait. When the van arrives, you can replace your copy with the manual that arrives with the van.
I know it's minor but I was a little shocked, as every vehicle I have ever owned has had a glove box light.
Whether it's worth the cost really varies by individual preferences. I think I read 60% of Odysseys are EX models, so most people think the extras are worth it. We preferred NOT to have the power doors and body-color mirrors and moldings, based mostly on personal experiences and also comments I've seen in reviews and forums. We did add the remote keyless entry, cargo net and alloy wheels for a combined cost of about $800 installed, so we still saved $1700 and got all the options we needed. Others have commented that they wouldn't do without the climate control or power doors, so you might make an extra effort to see both the LX and EX if you can. If the 2001 LX hadn't gotten the traction control and seat height adjusters, we'd have gone with the EX.
I know some suv's have a lower weight carrying capacity than many sedans-scarey.
Before getting our EX I really leaned toward the LX - purely for the cost factor. It was a (gulp) to spend this much money on a van -
Finally we decided to bite the bullet and get the EX - now I'm really glad we did. I would pay the extra money just for the power doors - they are that convenient. Really. I'm surprised at how easy they make getting in and out and getting stuff and kids in and out. Power doors rule!
The EX is only about 10% more and you get so many more extras for that. Lets say you had a 5 year loan at 10%. That $3,000 extra for the EX is only $64/mnth, extra.
instructions in the manual to re-tight the gas cap and to drive around for a couple of trips to reset the light. The light still lit after a couple of trips. I'm ready to bring it to a dealer. Please
fill me in if you have any experiences with this problem, whether benign or serious.
Thanks
Hope this helps out.
Don
Also worth mentioning that I just found out was only available on the EX is radio controls on the steering wheel. They are great for letting you keep your hands on the wheel while still searching the radio or changing songs on the CD player, plus volume control.
Whatever you choose, I think that the Odyssey is the best van on the market, hands down. Good Luck.
If you do feel the need to post, find some way to guarantee that 6 week delivery. Say be willing to send a valid contract to someone that says if they do not get their car in 6 weeks they get $100 off per week. Also, at least when I was looking for an Odyssey, I could always find dealers who would sell at MSRP and even some that would throw in some extras for that price, although to get the extras I would have had to buy from a far away dealer,which I did not want to do.
I would say that few auto dealers are evil, but to expect us to take the word of some auto dealer,who we don't know....., I say how dumb do you think we are on this board?
In contrast, 10 new CD's cost about $150 and you keep the handy storage space in the dash. No brainer. We needed some new Sesame St stuff and had to get rid of the Barney and Rafi tapes anyway (before the 100th playing induced vomiting in adults) so a trip to a music store and a few CD's later we had some fresh tunes and still ahead on the $$. Plus we still have a great place to store tissues at the ready (it's a pain to open the draw under the passenger seat in a tissue-requiring emergency).
> the ready (it's a pain to open the draw under the > passenger seat in a tissue-requiring emergency)
Since we used the center area for a cassette for our EX, we found a better place for the tissues in the front door pockets, both driver's and passenger's side. Just buy them in those small flat boxes and you're set.
Drew/aling
Edmunds.com Townhall host
Karen, do we need a special "Honda Odyssey - Tissue Box Placement" topic ?
As for someone soliciting new cars on this conference (or any other Townhall conferences for that matter), you've got your audience figured out all wrong. This place is visited by educated consumers, who are looking for advice and doing their share of research and not looking for a bargain. For that, there are other means. Personally, a dealer like that would get on my "exclusion" list right away !
Drew/aling
Edmunds.com Townhall host
More play than I would wish for!
we use the standard dispenser size boxes of tissue in the glove box...works fine for us.
The NHTSA complaints site logs a few injuires for each model year 1999 and 2000 related to the power doors not retracting automatically. Of course, that is a very small number, and it is likely most of the injuries are minor, as the summaries are cutoff in many cases.
Power sliding doors are a great convenience, but it's a good idea for anyone considering buying them should make sure to see exactly how they work and operate them in person. You may love them or find them annoying.
The complaint index is interesting to see all the reported problems. Of course, before you condemn the Odyssey as a problem-ridden vehicle, take a look at any other minivan first...
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/compmmy1.cfm
didn't take test dirve before signing papers and
while driving home noticed few problems:
1. Steering is making clicking sound while turning
at very low speed(< 20mph)
2. There is rumbling sound in the rear every time
I come to a stop for 2-3 times(Gas Sloshing???)
I'd called my salesman immed. but it was about 9pm
and he asked me to bring it on Monday(12/11). I
promptly did that but after wasting few hours they
gave it back to me with a note "Vehicle is driving
as expected at this time" eventhough salesman and
mechanic both verbally agreed there is abnormal
noise.
Can anyone help how to solve these peoblems?
What options do I have as I still owe some money
to dealer though I've signed credit papers?
Is it worth compalining to Honda or under Lemon
law?