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Honda Odyssey vs Dodge/Chrysler minivans



  • bdaddybdaddy Posts: 171
    Wondering how far O.T. you have to go before you get falgged? Not trying to be smart, just want to know. This is a DC vs Ody thread yet some posts stray into areas such as speculation about a poster's country of origin, previous existance, other minivan comparisons, etc. Not that I mind. In some cases there are no other outlets for these comments. How does this work?

    Again, I'm not trying to be cute - just want to play by the rules and stop having posts rejected.
  • 4aodge4aodge Posts: 288
    I'm sorry about the first sentence in my previous post. I did not mean to say that. I wanted people to stop making fun of him just because he cannot type or speak English as well as we can. Wouldn't you think thats something a 17 year old would do? You are all adults but you are certainly not acting the part.

    dmathews, when pat84 said he had his Odyssey over 100mph with six passengers I did not hear you criticize him for unsafe, fast driving. Especially considering that with six people on board the rear of his Odyssey was probably one inch from the ground and his head lamps were probably pointed towards the sky instead of the road in front of him. I'm sure they made perfect skylights.

    I don't see how anyone could say DC vans look like the Ford Windstar. Owners of DC vans should be insulted by that remark!
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Some may be mature enough to see behind a veil...other may not.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    I don't remember the post, I may have missed it as when I'm gone for a while I just skip through them and may have missed it. Yes it wasn't to smart on his part either. Reason behind my comment is yes I did that stupid thing too and luck was on my side. I had a 62 Ford with a 406 and tri-power carbs and me and 3 buddies where up on the highway one night seeing how fast it would go. Couldn't get it past 120 no matter what. When I slowed down to about 70 the backend started shaking. I had a flat. Changed tire and later found out that the tire had melted around the rim and we were lucky to be alive. Made me grow up just a tad. I just don't want to see anyone else see if they have the same luck I had that night. Like the other poster after me said to you, I hope you have good tires. Tell who ever to ease up on the go button.
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  • bdaddybdaddy Posts: 171
    Sedona look like Ford van. DC van look like box/shippig tube for Sienna not Focus. Honda look like Honda, nothing else. Looks not important to everyone.

    Brakish like brackish water, neither salty or fresh. Joe like person neither Korean or Carlton.

    Edmunds, Car and Driver and other experts wrong. Odyssey not best van. Best van is one you drive.
  • ody01ody01 Posts: 100
    "Best van is one you drive".
    Odyssey best van me, bdaddy, whambam, pat 84, dmathews 3, many people.
    Chrysler minivan best van 4aodge, chryslervan1, tomtomtom, swampcollie, Carleton1, many people.
    Nissan Quest best van Steve.
    Most Odyssey owner Town Hall. Now many Sedona owner Town Hall. Where are all Chrysler minivan owner?
    Difficult understand trade Odyssey for Avalanche.
  • whambamwhambam Posts: 37
    Big giant box tank. Own wife afraid rare & valuable DVBP Odyssey, prefer more ladylike van, like MPV.

    MPV look like Odyssey have little girl baby, have curvy like woman, more feature, less money, slider door window roll down very nice feature.

    Buy MPV for wife now Ford put real engine in van. Old engine good power only for Tonka Toy car.
  • bdaddybdaddy Posts: 171
    Return from trip in Odyssey late last night. Mother-in-law not go - not fit in van with magic seat folded. Get to wife's girlfriend's town and she thinks have to drive seperate car. Bdaddy put seat up and make wife sit in back so wife's pretty girlfriend sit next to him. Still liking Odyssey, maybe more now! Boil on left elbow better padding on long trip than padded armrest too.

    Honda use QFD (Quality Functional Deployment) to mate voice of customer to voice of engineer. Give customer big engine, ABS disc brake, 5 speed transmission, side airbags, automatic doors and more, all standard. Other vans have many option groups to get same features. Honda engineer smart.
  • bdaddybdaddy Posts: 171
    No MVP vs. Odyssey board so allow post to please pass. Ford want people think all cars go zoom zoom. Put windows that roll down in doors. Dog put head out window, think MPV going fast. Ford fool dog, not people.

    No window move kids not tempted to put arms legs head out window feel like going zoom zoom.
  • ody01ody01 Posts: 100
    MPV Magic Seat, nice 2nd row adjustable seat. MPV not attractive like Odyssey, lots less power, no protection side trim. Ford engine less power burn more fuel than Honda engine.
    Agree slider door window nice.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    whammy feel that van size make up for his lack. MPV owner confident with what is in his fold, not need 240hp to beat other lacking male at stoplight.
  • ody01ody01 Posts: 100
    Odyssey not like Volvo. Odyssey lots room, lots power, Magic Seat. Odyssey most like Chrysler minivan. Chrysler minivan need Magic Seat, 5 speed Automatic.
  • whambamwhambam Posts: 37
    Have excess endow like giant sequoia tree.

    MPV go fast only when draft on Odyssey exhaust.

    Volvo good car. Designer happen have railroad boxcar fixation.

    Bdaddy make good point danger children rear window. Bdaddy smart man, get fooled by DC low price, not think ahead low resale.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    giant sequoia tree a myth on east coast. Besides, giant sequoia fall over and die. Not even Odyssey load of Viagra can help.

    Ody owner drool when MPV owner roll down window and show off kids. Good looking kids = good looking van.
  • bdaddybdaddy Posts: 171
    Bdaddy and wife drive GGEXL (which neither granite or green) slow and in left lane. Speed limit safe, 10 mph under most safe. Avoid accident and tires melt to rims. Many people get close to back to admire most fine van. Honk horn in approval of choice. Stare at van when pass and signal number one choice! Wife not scared of big tank boxy van. Feel more safe than driving smaller curvey van. Bdaddy not need all 240 horses in van but nice for resale, no?
  • whambamwhambam Posts: 37
    Bdaddy wife, not big tank van.

    Many driver signal approval rare & valuable DVBP Ody EX by hold up one finger. Very strange not smile, look angry.

    Why Honda engineer make 8 different shades gray? Honda have most money, best look wheels all vans on EX model. DC wheel cover look like moon cap on 51 Ford.
  • bdaddybdaddy Posts: 171
    Good name for new DC van Sequoia. Van round like tree. Have to brake for squirrels run out at it. Good thing ABS disc brakes to avoid squirrels. Dogs lift leg on van, keep clean. Go many month without wash. Van can be cut up and sold by board foot when dies for much improved resale.

    Whammy watch out don't get termites on giant Sequoia. Wife not happy and might not understand. Ask for divorce. Then Whammy get to buy much prized old Volvo designed by rail engineer with money left from check.
  • bdaddybdaddy Posts: 171
    Town hall should combine all vs. van boards into one so posters able to stay more on topic. This help Edmunds readers make best choice less posts bounce. More on topic posts means moderators not work so hard. Many vans, little time. Honda top van not need top billing. Make board DC vs. Honda vs. Mazda vs. Kia vs. GM vs. Ford vs. Toyota. Or call it All Vans - comparisons. Best minivan the one you drive...till it breaks.
  • whambamwhambam Posts: 37
    Have Terminix Service care for giant sequoia, keep away pests and trim all branch twice year.

    If DC name van Sequoia, must change name mine to Big Willie. Not want name same like DC.
  • bdaddybdaddy Posts: 171
    Wife should care more for giant Sequoia, then not need other servicing.

    DC make nice van. Smaller engine than Honda and no magic seat. Kia best value now. Might trade Honda for Kia. Honda too powerful don't need to drive so fast. Kia get better milage when being towed use hardly any gas. DC give big rebate on their van. Best value now. May just buy 2 year old DC van now. Less wait for smoke and repairs to start.
  • bdaddybdaddy Posts: 171
    Honda most grey vans. Honda look too much at income statement and annual report. See much black and white and think vans should all be shades of grey. DC look at income statement and annual report and think most vans look best red.

    DC vs. Odyssey board in Town Hall top ten discussion today. Posters known much knowledge and information. Like lack of articles and conjunctions in sentence structure. Ody01 get much credit for interest in topic.
  • mitchs3mitchs3 Posts: 64
    My 1997 Town/Country just got out of the dealer after 3 day repair of electrical problems. I am now on my fifth circuit board for the dashboard. They cannot find any short. I find it hard to believe four boards will fail. Fortunately, these started while under warranty, and Chrysler has cut me a break charging me just labor for some, 50.00 dollars only for others and 0 dollars for the last but that circuit board lasted only 3 weeks. My service rep feels a trade in is a good idea. He comments his warranty work is down 40% as a measure of improved reliability. I view this as a measure that things are breaking later, out of warranty, as the repair shop was swamped. The 7/70 powertrain only covers some parts, with 100.00 deductable. Anyway was very tempted on a new 2002 Town/Cty limited at 3,300 under invoice, but still about 2200.00 more than Odyssey EX-L. Sure the DC is better equiped but those gadgets may break just at 37K miles.Anyway ordered 2003 Ody at MSRP less 460.00..
  • whodeywhodey Posts: 19
    After some deliberation, my wife and I decided on an Odyssey. We liked the luxury of the T&C but based our decision on past experience and proven reliability. We bought an Granite Green LX, added remote keyless entry and a cd player and paid MSRP. Not a single dealer was willing to do much negotiating but we did get everything we wanted for MSRP. I guess that's what the Odyssey goes for.
    We visited three dealers in one weekend and there was not a single Odyssey left on any of the lots. I guess it's true what they say...they sell them before they hit the dealership. Our's should be here within a week to ten days.
  • We were completely satisfied with our loaded 99 GC SE and did not plan to sell or trade for many years. However, our daughter and son in law needed a 2nd vehicle since their 7 year old son was in school and the 4 year old daughter in pre-school. They looked at many vehicles and decided to get a new 2002 Neon.
    We went on a test drive and felt cramped with the 4 year old girl in the back seat. The noise level was higher than we prefer so we offered to trade in our 99 GC SE on a new 2002 Chrysler T&C eL if the dealer would sell the 99 GC SE to them for the trade-in we received. They were most pleased to buy an exceptionally nice 99 GC SE with only 37,240 miles on Janury 26, 2002. (After all the 4 of them had gone to Disneyland with us 4 times in the past 2 years and KNEW the 99 GC SE was an outstanding vehicle).
    The 2002 T&C eL does not have all the nice features of the 99 GC SE such as Infinity 200 watt 10 speaker sound with CD and Cassette, Built in child safety seat in right middle Quad, Cast Wheels but is even quieter than the very quiet 99 GC SE. Triple Zone Temperature is even nicer than Dual Zone where the rear passengers got the temperature set by the driver. Instead of heat/cooling vents at middle and rear of both front doors as in the 99 GC SE, the 02 T&C eL has only heating vents under the front seat in addition to the 4 overhead A/C vents in ceiling overhead middle and rear row seats and also has the rear heater in front of right rear wheel. The front fan is even more powerful than was the excellent 5 speed fan of the 99 GC SE. We very seldom use the rear A/C even crossing the Mojave Desert of California since the A/C in each is very powerful with very cold air.
    Yes, we would have purchased a 2002 Havasu Blue Honda Odyssey had one been available in January as we were willing to try another van. I would like the 240 HP with 5 Speed Automatic, Magic Seat and flexible 2nd row seating but would have needed to give up the very nice Overhead Console with outside temperature/Compass/Trip Computer, Triple Zone Temperature, and 50/50 split fold and tumble 3rd row. As stated before, we feel the Odyssey and Grand Caravan/Town & Country are of equal value with each having unique advantages.
  • hersbirdhersbird Posts: 323
    Anybody know of any custom minivan shops? I want that A-team look for my van. Here is the real reason I bought my 2000 Grand Caravan over the Honda, it has that cool roof top spoiler! If only I had a bunch of orange and black paint...
    What van do you think jumps better, the Honda or the DC? The magic seat would be nice for loading welding gear in one minute, and then Murdoc the next. But over the long hauls when Mr. T refused to fly, the leather and 3 zone climate control of the T&C might be the ticket. See it's even hard for the A-team to choose, I still love it when a plan comes together.
  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    The Odyssey has

    1. An engine
    2. Spotty Reliability during the first year
    3. A disappearing seat (I'd rather have a disappearing finance payment)
    4. A noisy gas tank and inaccurate gas guage
    5. Four Wheels
    6. Some Windows, seats and a steering Wheel

    The DC Van has:

    1. An Engine
    2. Spotty Reliability However new generation much better.
    3. Split removeable third seat
    4. A gas tank and gas guage
    5. Four Wheels, (give or take one or two)
    6. Some Windows, seats and a steering Wheel

    Sounds like a wash to me.

    Neither Car has:
    5 speed manual transmission with chrome shifter topped by a cue ball shifter knob

    chrome door handles with real push buttons

    Available factory flames or woodie treatment

    Upcoming turbo model and convertible model

    Advantage the Microvan

    Thank You very much
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    Make board DC vs. Honda vs. Mazda vs. Kia vs. GM vs. Ford vs. Toyota. Or call it All Vans - comparisons

    A better name for the board would be My Van is better than your Van as this is what it amounts too.
  • pat84pat84 Posts: 817
    If there were such a forum, some of the obvious comparisons would be between Honda, the Longer version of DC, and Windstar vs. the shorter DC , the MPV , the Nissan Quest, and Toyota Sienna. BTW Longer is better.
  • pat84pat84 Posts: 817
    Acceleration so good Ody that back end go low when floor it. . Go from 7 inch to 5 inch from road, even when full.
    Headlights ODY much better than DC. I put aftermarket Hella bulbs in 96 DC. Still have to drive no more 60 at night or outdrive head light. Not so ODY. Go likety split at night.
    I like crkeehn neon, too. Have PT Cruiser Package. Bet factory flame job all same.
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