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I heard the silver dash scratches easily but the carbon fiber look does not.
Is the diff protector needed as cheap insurance or a waste?
I think the standed shifter was fine, although a bit hard to get into gears.
The car I drove had the boost guage. But what do I need to waste $300 on that for? I have rev limiter which I should be watching right?
Also what kind of pricing is possible at this time?
Im in SoCal.
Thanks a bunch!
I got the diff protector just for the off chance i take it on a rally course. You dont really need it otherwise.
you should be able to get within 250 of invoice if not at invoice, due to the crappy economy. People were getting $500 over before the events of 9/11.
The boost gauge is for kicks. The tach does the job.
-juice
Stephen
I have the Carbon fiber Trim. It looks nice to me, its one of those things for the eyes. I've never read on any post about scratching on the silver ones, yet you could do some more posting on i-club if these questions are not clarified to your liking.
Living in So Cal should mean more Subie dealers=better price... and ought to get invoice or less
as stated earlier.. make those sales dudes earn your bisness.
At the past couple of meets I've attended, there were a few WRX's with aftermarket mudflaps. One had a set of cheapo Pep Boys flaps and they actually looked decent.
Don't forget that a lot of Subaru owners prefer function over form. A mudflap option for MY 03 would be nice. Along with a moonroof and heated side view mirrors. :-D
Dennis
-juice
If I had never had heated seats I wouldn't care but the Forester has em' and darn it, they feel good. If you can give them to Canada why can't USA have them?
Moonroof .. don't get me started on that one....
- hutch
-juice
Bob
Anyways, I asked two diff salesmen and got two diff answers to the following questions:
1. I do alot of fishing and need to know if I can drive this on the beach. One said absolutely not and the other swore that if I had the clearance I could.
2. I REALLY want a moonroof (not sunroof) in this car; can I get one installed without worrying about leaks later on? One said there is a cross member in the roof that HAS to stay in place. The other came back and said I could get one installed by the dealer for $1500.
I've been saving for the wagon and figured I'd turn to the folks who would REALLY know the answers to these questions: YOU!
ps please refrain from the "get a Jeep or Outback" comments. I want THIS car, I just need to know what it's limitations are ;^D
Thanks
2) Moonroof. I'd be leary of cutting into that center crossmember in the roof. If you wait for '03 you can probably get one in it as it may be an option. Albeit a small wide one. Or have an aftermarket place put a small wide one in that doesn't cut the crossmember.
-mike
I can't imagine that's it's essential to the cars performance or function and it makes it look very "boy racer".
-mike
Stephen
From: http://www.worldrallynews.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?newsid1004447388,99548,
The text of the article is posted below. I know that tobacco is still considered more acceptable on FHI's home turf, but, with a FIA tobacco sponsorship ban coming in 2004-2006, I can not believe that SWRT would be stupid enough to risk whatever recent brand identity they have built up with the WRX (yeah, I know the blue and gold are legacy tobacco sponsorhip colors...), paint it red, and stigmatize the WRX with, with ....MARLBOROS????? Jeez, get with the 21st century, guys!!!
I have to think that this is a hoax or a bum rumor. I'll be writing to SoA, FHI, and SWRT to inquire.
Presently, I have a silver 2002 WRX wagon. I also have a pair of 1st class tickets to go watch Subaru/Makkinen at Monte Carlo in January. If SWRT adopts the Marlboro logo in 2002 I can say that my wagon will be for sale at a very attractive price next year (so long as you are willing to repaint it after I add some paint/logos) and I will be turning those tickets back in.
What a bummer this would be. SoA, please tell me that this is baloney or that the person that dreamed this up has been fired.
Jim
/****************************** article *********************************/
Marlboro linked with Subaru for 2002
October 30, 2001
Senior management in Japan is rumoured to have cleared the way to a deal between Marlboro
and Subaru by dropping its insistence on Subaru’s customary blue and yellow colour scheme.
Subaru’s World Rally Championship team hasn’t had a sponsor since British American Tobacco turned its attentions to Formula 1 and company insistence on specific colours
deterred most alternative backers. If there has been a change of heart, it could signal a realisation within Subaru that it will have to increase budgets if it is to keep pace with rivals
such as Ford and Peugeot.
Mitsubishi is still hoping to keep Marlboro backing for a fourth consecutive season, but Ford is
also reckoned to be a possible alternative for the US tobacco brand. If Marlboro does strike a
deal with Subaru, it is possible that Belgian driver Freddy Loix could drive an Impreza. He
does not form part of Mitsubishi’s 2002 plans.
Thanks!
I can't imagine that's it's essential to the cars performance or function and it makes it look very "boy racer". "
The un-fortunate fact regarding this issue is that boyracers employ a fake hood-scoop to "look cool" and convey a "high performance" look for their ride, which invariably is a "poor performance ride".
In case of the WRX, the hood-scoop is not intended to make it "look cool". It is truly functional and does some "real cooling" under the hood. It feeds cool outside air into the intercooler, which cools the air, thus making the air that is forced in by the turbo-charger, more dense, since cooler air = denser air. More dense air would generate more usable power. Thus the hood-scoop in case of the WRX, is a true "high performance" feature and not something that "looks like a high performance feature, but is not", that the boy-racers employ !!!
Hope this helps,
Later...AH
Check out http://www.isuzu-suvs.com/events/index.html for pics of other off-roading Imprezas (Isuzu/Subaru Pine Barrens links). Some of them are lowered RS's.
Some dealers are installing after-market sunroofs. I believe most of them are cutting into the cross member. Not a good idea, IMHO.
Brittany - Congratulations! I'm not familiar with So. Cal. clubs. You could try a search on the internet. Also check i-club.com and look in the regional forums.
- Dennis
-mike
Consider a small moonroof that lies ahead of the B-pillar, leaving the cross member in place. My Forester had a B-pillar cross member, and it was removed when I put on an ASC roof. They add their own bracing, and mine has not ever leaked or squeaked.
I don't see why the WRX would rely more on this cross member than my Forester would, but some folks here disagree. Ask to talk to an installer, and have him detail exactly what he would have to do. See if he sounds convincing about keeping structural integrity intact. I think a reliable, certified ASC shop would, while a chop shop would not.
-juice
-juice
It also depends on where you locate the intercooler. Often times it's near the grille opening, towards the front of the engine. The WRX puts it on top of the engine.
The WRX force feeds air at an impressive 14psi or more. Compressed air get hotter, so the intercooler is a real boost.
-juice
-juice
In the original version of Gran Turismo, you could add stuff you your car, play with the settings, refine your driving ability, and hit the track and blow away the competition. It took quite a bit to reach this point though, and it made for some great racing along the way. The developers of Gran Turismo tried to make things a little more racy in GT2 and GT3 right from the start by introducing speed compensation. What this does is make cars that are behind faster and slows down cars with leads. This effectively ruined the game for me. What good is it if you tweak the setup of your car, take it to the track, and drive the perfect lap? In GT1, you do that and you could build up a big lead. Later, as your tires wear out, you could screw up and you'd have a cushion before they other cars catch up. In later versions of GT, you drive your perfect lap, everybody is still right on your tail. You do an average lap, same result. You screw up, they pass you, but then wait for you. Not like real racing at all, and it doesn't reward good driving or car setup.
So anyway, GT1 was the best of the 3 for actual racing. GT1 also had a setting for head to head play where you could turn speed compensation on and off. In later versions I think it was defaulted to on. In GT1, you should be able to race you son and be rewarded for good driving. Sure he can still cheat and ride the guardrails once in a while, but eventually he'll spin out and you'll get him. Once that happens, the lack of speed compensation will keep him from catching up with no penalty.
GT1 does have the Rally version of the WRX. It's the best handling car in the game. The only drawback is that the gear ratios limit it to 165mph which is a drawback on tracks with long straits against some cars that can do nearly 200mph. It should be cheap if you can find it, so give the origial Gran Turismo a try. It won't look as good as a PS2 game, but the racing is much better.
-juice
Jon
Stephen
I played both games back to back, and you can definitly turn easier and faster with GT1, while in GT2 you will really have to calculate the angle and braking speed during turns. Not to mention you get penalized more if you are off track in GT2, the recovery is harder and more realistic.
-mike
I may have to wait until spring 2002, at which point any 2002 models (if any are leftover) may have year-end discounts.
In a similar vein, a friend was forced to get a new car when his old Honday gave up the ghost. He spec'd out a VW GTI through a dealer here in NJ, put in deposit etc, and they gave him a delivery date. That morning they called to say it was the WRONG CAR (5-spd, not the Tiptronic like he wants). For the last 2 weeks this dealer has had his deposit and he still has yet to get this car. They keep telling him "it's here," "it's there," "it came in with the stock rims." Today's excuse: "the driver who was supposed to truck it down from Connecticut is sick."
I expect next it'll be "they found white powder in the trunk, so the FBI quarantined the car."
DjB
Anybody else considering these? I was going to spring for the good quality OZ Superleggeras but these are quite the deal at half the price.
Stephen
The lesson from that was that Auto-WRX (due to its adaptive transmission), will drive sluggishly when brand-new (with very few miles on it) but transforms dramatically after a couple of thousand miles.
Incidentally, our dealership has over 6 manual WRXs on the lot (2 wagons and 4 sedans) and every single Auto-WRX that pops in at the dealership, sells within the first two days. The silver manual-WRX wagon I drove has been on their lot for a couple of weeks now. So if we exclude this group of manual lovers, the Auto-WRXs have been flying off the lots while the manual waits for buyers. Just a heads-up.
Later...AH
DjB
-mike