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Lincoln Owners: Meet the Members

Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,095
edited March 2014 in Lincoln
Please introduce yourself!

My name is Karen and I'll be your host in the Lincoln LS Club. Let me know what discussions you would like to have included in this folder. Perhaps take a look at the already established Owner's Clubs for ideas? Anyone care to be a representative/Community Leader for the club? Let me know!

Looking forward to meeting everyone!

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  • jnowskijnowski Posts: 96
    And add one more title for you: LS Abassador exraordinaire.

    OK, I'm officially here.

    Joe N.
  • I say "aye"! Great, one more site to add to my favs :-)
  • drolds1drolds1 Posts: 247
    Brian gets my vote any day of the week.
  • sclark8sclark8 Posts: 44
    Dittos on Brian our founder and leader.
  • tom12253tom12253 Posts: 110
    Brian LS Gowing - Founder/LS Evangelist - Representative/Community Leader - LS Ambassador exraordinaire - The man who walks talks and breaths LS has my vote.
  • stanny1stanny1 Posts: 962
    But since he drives an automatic, do we need a sub-king as a rep for the Manual owners? Will the King be fair to us Manual people? After all,we are the minority wierdos.
  • ls1bmw0ls1bmw0 Posts: 782
    stanny1: Since I used to drive manuals exclusively I don't think it will make much difference to me whether the car has an automatic or a manual. The only reason I currently own an automatic is due to the fact that driving in SoCal traffic 110 miles roundtrip every day would get old really fast in a manual transmission car. If not for this and the fact that Lincoln didn't see fit to put a manual in the LS-8 I would have bought a manual. And, hey, I'm just as weird as the rest of you! :)

    reneleblanc: For a minute I thought you were giving us a southern greeting! :> Edmunds has been after this discussion board and from the looks of it several others to move over to the Owners Clubs section of Town Hall. The biggest difference between now and then was that before we wouldn't have stayed on the main Sedan topic list. Now we are in both places. I talked to Melissa Adams from Edmunds yesterday as soon as I saw we had been moved. Edmunds goal is to provide additional functionality for groups like ours, such as getting the OEMs more involved(which Lincoln already is), allowing creation of sub-topics (look at the Cougar Support Group), and possibly weekly chats(I know LLSOC already does that). The way it relates to the soon to be trademarked Lincoln LS Owners Club (LLSOC) is that I will be able to put the club logo on this board so people can link to the official LLSOC web site.

    I wish they had told us they were doing this before they did it and ask our opinion first. But they decided to do it the same way that they did the software move. So all we can do is make the best of it and use it to best advantage.

  • stanny1stanny1 Posts: 962
    I know that we Manual Owners are not ignored. It's just that we don't have any problems to discuss,like tranny programming,axle and tappet noise,etc. I still want you to be the leader. I don't know anyone with as much energy and enthusiasm as you anyway. Thanks for the newsletter. Just tell me when to send the $30.00!
  • ls1bmw0ls1bmw0 Posts: 782
    I'm Brian Gowing and I am the founder of the Lincoln LS Owners Club, LLSOC for short. I have been involved in this forum since Part III. I own a 2000 LS-8, vibrant white, with a build date of 6/1999.

    My real job is Director of Information Services for St. John Knits, a high-end ladies clothing manufacturer in Irvine CA. I have a very understanding wife and a precocious little boy.

    I have been a Ford man since the first car I owned, which was a 1965 Ford Mustang 289 2 with a four-speed on the floor. Paid $100 for it with Pontiac Firebird bucket seats and a rusted out back floor. Since then I've owned:
    1968 Pontiac Ram Air 400 Firebird
    1979 Mercury Turbo Capri RS
    1985 Mustang GT
    1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
    1989 Mustang LX 5.0
    1991 Ford Bronco
    1998 Ford Mustang GT
    2000 Lincoln LS-8

    Raced the Turbo Capri in Solo II Autocross competition in NJ. Always loved cars, even more so now with the LS.
  • I'm Joe Milano and have been involved on this board since last May (part V I think). Bought my 2001 LS8 in October 2000.

    I can't imagine anyone better to lead this chat than Brian.

    My real job is as an Electrical/Manufacturing Engineer and Project Manager for a major military avionics company. I live in Northern NJ. Although I consider myself a car enthusiast, I have never raced, built, or restored one. I've been a Ford man since I started driving...
    - Several of my father's Crown Vics
    - 1987 Mark VII LSC
    - 1992 Mark VII LSC
    - 2001 LS V8 Sport

    I feel that Lincoln has designed the LS just for me since I've been waiting for this type of Lincoln for the past 20 years.
  • tom12253tom12253 Posts: 110
    My name is Tom Chernowetz (TOM12253). I came across Edmunds at the end of 1999 while researching my new car purchase. Edmunds and the Town Hall sites became a valuable resource in helping to choose the LS as ultimate selection. I took delivery April 2000 and although I have had more than my share of problems as I have posted in the past I love the LS for its unsurpassed performance, handling, overall comfort and styling.

    I've worked as a service technician for Sears Home central for the past 28 years. Before that I worked as a mechanic at a Chevy dealership.

    I have owned a wide variety of vehicles and a few motorcycles the latest being a Goldwing. Since getting married and having two children in the 80's I had to put the idea of owning my dream car on the back burner. Till now!

    1959 Chevy Impala
    1963 Buick Riviera
    1967 VW Beetle
    1973 VW Super Beetle
    1974 Fiat 124 Spider
    1976 Old Cutlass Supreme
    1978 VW Scirroco
    1984 Ford F150 pickup
    1990 Toyota Camry
    2000 Lincoln LS Sport

    I would like to thank all the LS owners and Lincoln staff who post here for their helpful Knowledge support and camaraderie
  • mkovalskmkovalsk Posts: 114
    My name is Mark Kovalsky. I've been here almost since the start.

    My job is supervisor, Car Calibration Section, 5R55 Transmission Systems, Ford Motor Company. The 5R55N is the automatic transmission used in the Lincoln LS.

    My group is responsible for the calibration of the transmission. The calibration is the software the tells the transmission when to shift, and how that shift is executed.

    I don't have a personal LS, but my group has about a dozen, so I drive them very often. We have a few of each flavor, V6 and V8, Sport and non-Sport.

    I have learned many things from this group that we have used in our calibrations. I use this as a means of finding out what our customers think of our products. To that end I really appreciate candid feedback. If you like something about the transmission I want to hear about it. Even more importantly if you DON'T like something about the transmission I NEED to hear about it.
    Any relevant post is copied and e-mailed to my group.

  • Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,095
    Special Event Chat with Ed Hellwig

    Tues., Jan. 30th, 5-6pm PT/8-9pm ET

    Ed Hellwig - Associate Editor,

    Associate editor Ed Hellwig came to Edmunds with a diverse automotive background that included stints as a gas station grease monkey, automotive spy photographer, and ice rink Zamboni driver. Ed spent five years making sure he hated cold weather at the University of Colorado in Boulder where he somehow earned a degree in American history between beer runs and football games. Upon returning, he proclaimed "snow sucks" and forever pledged his allegiance to the Southern California sunshine. Prior to joining Edmunds, Ed toiled under the iron fist of Tom Lindamood at A&M Specialists, a press vehicle logistics company, as a road-tester and delivery driver. While tooling around in Bentleys and Porsches was less than grueling, Ed just couldn't shake the editorial urge and jumped at the chance to join the Edmunds team. He's now responsible for writing road tests, editing our "Future Telling" column, and assisting in performance testing.

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  • stanny1stanny1 Posts: 962
    Isn't he the guy that said he probably wouldn't buy an LS in the October or November 2000 Long Term Road Test? Well, Guys, we need to chat with Ed about the tranny reflash and make sure he's going to get it. I think that would help alot. And he did have a rough time with having to get his tranny replaced. Extreme! I'd like him to test the Manual since it is one of only three manual RWD cars of similar size available in the marketplace. So,Ed, why not a comparison - BMW 5 Series,LS,C240, all Manuals,all sixes ? No one has done that one yet! Too bad you couldn't have made LS Mania in Irvine.
  • sawmillsawmill Posts: 81
    I'm Rick Albert. I've participated on the edmunds forum almost as long as Mark, since II.

    I own a dark green LS-8.

    In real life I am a lawyer practicing in business practices & litigation, particular in the fields of intellectual property and all facets of entertainment law. I have also produced six motion pictures.

    I've owned mostly foreign cars, from Rolls Royce to Jensen to Aston Martin (DB-6), with a Saab and a few VW's in there. The only american car I've owned, besides the LS (which I loved) was a 94 Taurus (which would have made a great snow-plow, if we had snow in Los Angeles).

    For performance/comfort/handling/refinement, I like my 2000 LS the best.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,030
    I'm Allen Kirby and I've also been here since the beginning (7/99). I live near Atlanta and work as a IT consultant for a major telecommunications company.

    I started out driving Hondas and Acuras after college but soon switched to Ford trucks (ranger, explorer, expedition). Got tired of the Ranger and decided to reward myself for my latest promotion by getting something fun to drive. Was dead set on a Laser Red Mustang GT convertible. Even tried to buy one but the options I wanted were not in stock. Changed my mind and ordered a 2000 Autumn Red LS8 Sport with everything except Advance Trak and cell phone and I haven't regretted it one bit. The mustang would have been fun but definitely not the same type of car. The only down side is before (when I drove the Ranger) the Expedition felt downright luxurious and rode great. Now when I switch from the LS to the Expy it feels like the Queen Mary. Had to get new tires and shocks to even tolerate it. Which just goes to show that everything's relative!

    I also think it's absolutely phenomenal that mfr reps are so involved with this vehicle. No other vehicle can make that claim.
  • goodyrlgoodyrl Posts: 83
    Looked at an LS8 in hopes I could get a better ride for a lot less money. Ended up with LS8 because i was wandering around Edmunds and hit the LS8 site. I have Estate Green and have gotten many compliments. Can't figure out why they discontinued the color grrrrrr

    I figured at 51 I was to young for a Cadillac anyway. Love my LS8
  • medphysmedphys Posts: 19
    My name is Howard Couvillon, I live in New Orleans and drive an LS8, built 4/00. It is an Ivory/Parchment Sport with all bells and whistles. I know the dealer personally (taught him to steal and slide in Little League) and got the car he ordered for himself with RESCU, etc. I've added all of the recommendations in Edmunds: Splashguards, K&N filter, bra, Borlas with subtle downturned tips, moonroof wind deflector, Aura 35 tint (more copper than black) and trunk organizer from LM. I LOVE to drive this car and have my Alpine cranked with Roomfull of Blues CD's (try it you'll like it) every day!
    Have seen a few others on the road but mine looks more complete with the mods. I could not be happier to be in a community of LS owners/lovers.

    BTW, I am 52 and a headhunter that recruits medical physicists for radiation oncology depts across the US. My wife drives a 2000 Villager.

    My 1st was a 1951 flathead Ford Victoria
    55 T-Bird (project car)
    '64 Corvair Spyder with Edelbrock High Rise and 4 barrel - LA state champ F/MP
    '68 Hemi Cuda
    '69 Fastback Mustang w/390 (remember Steve McQueens' Bullitt)
    '83 Camaro
    '78 Peugeot (don't ask)
    '89 Bronco II
    '89 Aerostar
    '96 Villager
    '00 Villager
    '00 My LS8

    I am having a blast with this car!
  • My name is Michael Hall. I am the proud owner of a '00 V6, non-sport, auto (sigh), with the convienence package. It is silverfrost with dark charcoal interior. I fell in love with this car at the San Diego Auto Show a couple of years ago, never dreaming I would be able to own one. My modifications are Polk dX7 speakers in the front doors, Infinity Reference 5753cf speakers in the rear doors, splash guards, extra power outlet in the rear of the center console, added the trunk net, and I removed the front license plate bracket.

    I live in north San Diego county. I'm 44. During the daytime (and a couple of nights), I work as an Air Traffic Controller. What a great job, it's kinda like a video game! The best part is that I get to work Los Angeles traffic and live in San Diego. :)

    My past cars in order are:
    1957 Volvo
    1965 Galaxie 500 LTD
    1965 Mustang 289/4bbl/4spd
    1972 Satellite Sebring
    1977 Plymouth Arrow
    1978 Plymouth Sapporo
    1982 Chrysler Le Baron (AKA K-car)
    1986 Mercury Sable (we became a 2-car family)
    1988 Mercury Sable
    1991 Mercury Sable
    1992 Honda Civic (Le Baron got totalled)
    1996 Mercury Sable (Honda was piece of scrap)
    2000 Lincoln LS (1991 Sable was OLD, etc.)

    This car is the most fun since my Mustang (Brian, we'll have to swap tire smoking Mustang stories!)
  • lolaj42lolaj42 Posts: 420
    My name is Chris Noyes. I'm a 38 year old mechanical engineer that has left the aerospace industry after 13 years to move into IT consulting. I worked for 8 years as Project Engineer developing and testing gas turbine engines (mainly used on business jets, although I did work on one high-performance military engine). I left the aerospace industry because I was starting to feel like a migrant worker!

    Due to the birth of my first child, I had to sadly part company with my beloved 1990 Nissan 300ZX. It was a red 5-spd manual that had the only 2 options available -- leather seats and the digital climate control. 222 normally aspirated HP in a 3200 lb car. Low center of gravity, short overhangs made for a real exhilarating ride. Alas, I digress . . . I finally needed a primary ride that had a back seat big enough to accommodate a child safety seat so I could take my 2 best gals with me. I thought I was doomed to having to settle for a FWD box that couldn't get out of it's own way. Boy was I surprised that Lincoln had just the right medicine at the right time. While the LS is not a true sports car, it is a true sports sedan (with luxury to boot!), and I love pushing this car through the mountainous, twisty back roads in the Arizona highlands, and nailing the throttle in the plentiful wide-open spaces. I've hit 130+ mph on several occasions (although not for very long), but haven't been able to detect any speed limiter.

    My previous cars were:
    1978 Honda Accord
    1984 Mazda RX7 (Red of course)
    1986 AMC Jeep Cherokee
    1990 Nissan Axxess (just retired with 205K miles)
    1990 Nissan 300ZX (motor trend car of the year)
    2000 Lincoln LS V8 sport (Silverfrost, light graphite interior, True Audiophile & 6-CD changer in glovebox, Moonroof, AdvanceTrac)
  • Chris,
    You forgot to add "(motor trend car of the year)" to your LS also...

  • lolaj42lolaj42 Posts: 420
    I assumed that anyone on this board was already well aware of that fact ;-)

    I did forget to mention that my wife decided to replace the Nissan Axxess with a 2000 Mazda MPV. I'm not so sure my forgetfulness of that fact was unintentional . . . I'm not too fond of the gutlessness of the MPV. Also, while minivans have come to be known as the people-mover of choice, I don't find the seating arrangement to be all that convenient for my tastes. I think the MPV will be replaced as soon as the baby Navigator hits the showrooms. Hope you're listening JRogers, et. al.
  • My name is Hector Amengual and the proud owner (picked it up today) of a 2001 LS V8 Sport. Today is my first day driving it but I can already tell that it handles a lot better than my 1996 Ford Explorer. Acutally I have been driving that brick for the last 4 years and it was time to get a real car. I'm not strong mechanically, but if you need any advice on Oracle products I'm your man. Before Oracle I worked for Lockheed Martin for 12 years installing and maintaining IBM Mainframes. I migrated firs to working on Data Warehouses and then I jumped to Oracle.

    My previous vehicles;

    1971 Super Beetle (in 1977)
    1981 Dodge Ram Van
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0
    1985 Jeep CJ7
    1987 Nissan Pathfinder
    1990 Mazda Pick up
    1994 Nissan Maxima
    1996 Ford Explorer
    1998 Nissan Maxima
    2000 Nissan Maxima

    The mustang was a lot of fun to drive. The 2001 Maxima is not bad but neither compares to the LS. I hope that I can eat up the first 1,000 miles quickly! Now that I have the LS I wont have to fight my wife for the Maxima.

  • thomas_lthomas_l Posts: 134
    I have really enjoyed seeing all the "car histories" that have been posted here. In taking my own trip down memory lane I can clearly see that car choices have been a reflection on life events and changing priorities. OK so I have weird tastes that change often :-D

    67 Ford Mustang
    73 Toyota Corolla
    80 Chevy Citation X-11
    83 Ford Mustang GT
    --- Dropped out of college, entered school of hard knocks.
    63 Chevy Bel Air
    77 Grand Prix
    --- Got married (x-wife was tough on cars, especially Camaros!)
    81 Ford F-250 Super cab
    78 Pontiac Bonneville ("old reliable" of 8 years - longevity record holder)
    78 Chevy Z-28
    74 Chevy Camaro
    79 Chevy Camaro
    86 Ford Escort GT
    --- Got divorced
    76 Datsun 280Z
    81 Toyota Supra
    --- Resumed college
    77 Mercedes 450SEL
    --- Met future wife
    94 Pontiac Bonneville
    97 Ford Ranger
    --- Finally graduated from college
    97 Mercury Grand Marquis
    00 Lincoln LS8 sport
    --- Married by Elvis (yes we acutally did that!)
    01 Mercedes C240

    Oh yeah - click on my name up there to find out a little more...
  • My name is Raymond Smith. I live in Austell, (Atlanta area). I am a retired Air Force E-6 who currently works as an accountant for the State of a. Teachers Retirement System. I have been reading the board since Dec. 2000 when I got interested in the LS. I took delivery of my Red 2001 V-8 Sport on 2 Jan 01 and have just gone thru breaking

    My previous cars have included:
    1972 Mercury Capri
    1973 Ford ran Torino Sport
    1974 Ford Thunderbird
    1977 Ford Thunderbird
    1980 Pontiac Trans AM
    1982 Olds Cutlass Supreme
    1983 Camaro Z28
    1985 Buick Riviera
    1986 & 88 Mark VII
    1992 Ford Aerostar
    1995 Cadillac Eldorado
    1997 Ford Explorer
    1999 Mercedes E320

    As you can see I have had many different vehicles but I am having as much if no more fun with the LS as I've had with any of my previous vehicles. I have added no mods to it other than a front plate that has the lincoln symbol in the middle in red flanked by the letters L S on either side in gold.
  • gkarggkarg Posts: 230
    My name is George Karg (27 yrs.) I work for the Marketing Dept. at a fall protection manufacturer in NW PA. I have been following the LS Forum from the beginning and really enjoy the input from everyone! My owned list is short, but I've racked up a lot of miles in these Fords. I've bought them all "free rides"!!! (Okay, except for the Torino...)

    1974 Ford Gran Torino Elite
    - My bro's... I just took over driving it
    - blew up the original 351 Windsor... threw
    a rod right threw the block...OOPS!
    replaced with a 302 from a '69 Fairlane
    1987 Mercury Topaz
    - great winter car.... and that's about it
    1981 Lincoln Mark VI (Cartier Ed. - LOADED)
    - garage kept until i bought it in 93 for $3K
    - still have the beast, runs great & rattle free
    1994 Lincoln Continental (Sign. Srs.)
    - sold to my parents when the LS arrived,
    beautiful car!
    2000 Lincoln LS (V6 Spt. Auto Autumn Red -loaded)
    - there aren't enough words....
    1992 Lincoln Continental (Exec. Srs.)
    - my winter beater, bought in july for $500
    with engine having bad knock - original plugs
    still in it with 130,500 miles on it!
    replaced with Jasper Reman. - runs like a
    top - will actually keep up with the LS off
    the line...

    The LS is will be taking winters off... Rotten Groundhog (just a few miles down the road) said I'd have to wait even longer to drive the LS!
  • I'm John Crawford. I'm a computer jockey (programmer/analyst), a native Central Texan, and a lifelong Ford wonk. I worked for Texas Instruments for 18 years in Austin until our site was sold to Solectron in '96. Enough about work. I'm a certified car nut, a music (especially jazz) fan, and a Frank Lloyd Wright buff.

    My rides have been:

    '70 Mustang Mach I, 351C/automatic, calypso coral exterior/vermillion (red) interior. My high school graduation present. It was a year old with 15k miles when I got it. A great car, but mechanically unstable. My dad got tired of the repairs, so I got a...

    '73 Maverick Grabber 2-door, 302/auto, tan & white/tan. Dull, but extremely reliable.

    '76 Mustang Mach I, 302/4-speed, black/red. Neat car, also extremely reliable.

    '79 Mustang Indy Pace Car replica, 302/4-speed, pewter/black & white Recaros. Another neat car.

    '85 Mustang GT, 302/5-speed, black/red. A hot rod. The last Holley 4-barrel.

    '90 Lincoln Mark 7 LSC, 302/auto, regatta blue/blue. My first luxmobile; a beauty.

    '96 Lincoln Mark 8 LSC, 4.6/auto, toreador red/saddle tan. The superb Romeo V8; 4 cams, 32 valves, 290 real horsepower. Great car.

    '01 LS V8 Sport, ivory/parchment, moonroof, AdvanceTrac. My first 4-door. A wonderful car; needs 50 more horsepower and a better stereo, but I think I'll keep it.

    One day I'd like to acquire a '69 or '70 Cougar XR-7 convertible with a 428 powerplant. Maybe if I quit buying Lincolns I'll be able to afford one. :)
  • René LeBlanc
    Born Feb, 1935
    1st motorcycle in 1950: 1948 Harley Davidson 125
    2nd motorcycle in 1952: 1948 Harley davidson 61
    1st car in 1953: 1939 Chevrolet
    2nd car in 1954: 1951 Nash Rambler Convertable
    3rd car in 1955: 1951 Nash Statesman (bathtub)
    4th car in 1963: 1963 VW bug
    3rd motorcycle in 1964: Honda 305 Superhawk
    5th car in 1967: 1967 Pontiac LeMans
    4th motorcycle in 1968: 1968 Honda 405
    6th car in 1970: 1968 Oldsmobile station wagon
    5th motorcycle in 1972: 1972 Honda 750
    7th car in 1974: 1974 Subaru station wagon
    6th motorcycle in 1975: 1975 BMW R90/6
    8th car in 1976: 1976 Saab sedan
    9th car in 1979: 1979 Peugot 504 diesel wagon
    10th car in 1986: 1986 Mercury Sable wagon
    11th car in 1992: 1990 Sable LS sedan
    7th motorcycle in 1992: 1992 BMW R75/RT
    12th car in 1996: 1996 Ford Taurus LX wagon
    8th motorcycle in 1997: 1997 BMW R1100/RTA
    13th car (LUCKY) in 1999: 2000 Lincoln LS V8/sport

    I still have the '96 Taurus wagon for errands and running around town. It is very practical, peppy, and trouble-free at ~50K miles.

    I still have the '97 BMW R1100/RTA. It is also completely reliable at >28K miles, and is the 2-wheel equivalent to our Lincoln LS. Handles fantastically, great range, exciting performance, and a total blast to ride!

    When I retired in 1999 (from my job as a telecommunication engineer (mainly software development)) I realized it was time to do many things I didn't have time for while I was working. One of them is to do a lot more traveling around the country by surface roads. My wife of 35+ years says she is altogether too familiar with the back of my motorcycle helmet, and wants to travel in a more comfortable way. I said we needed a car that is really FUN TO DRIVE, like my BMW! The Lincoln LS is it! This is, with no doubt, the best car I've ever driven!
  • Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,095
    I spoke to Dana/Community Manager and they are trying to get all the Club chats set up on

    Tuesdays: 4-5pmPT/7-8pmET


    Thursdays: 5-6pmPT/8-9pmET, 6-7pmPT/9-10ET, 7-8pmPT/10-11pmET (This last time would be kind of late for East coast, but is available if you want it.)

    The first scheduled chat would be March 6 or 8.

    Let me know what time works for you!

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  • Howdy! I'm Jim Murdock, a retired Air Force navigator, currently a Certified Financial Planner living in Hebron, KY (greater Cincinnati).
    I have mostly driven imported cars since driving my uncle's 1959 Triumph TR-3a when I was 16. I always said that if Detroit built a good handling, responsive car with four doors, rear wheel drive and a manual transition, I would consider buying one. My LS is a black 2000 manual built in October 1999.
    My previous cars have been:

    1961 MGA
    1969 Datsun 510
    1969 Fiat 124 Spider
    1970 Peugeot 504
    1964 Triumph TR4a
    1971 BMW 2002
    1969 Porsche 911E
    1974 Alfa Romeo GTV
    1974 Audi 100 LS
    1975 Audi Fox (wife's)
    1978 Pontiac Grand Am (wife's, automatic)
    1978 Alfa Romeo Alphetta Sedan
    1980 VW Rabit convertable (wife's)
    1982 Volvo 242 GT
    1982 VW Sciracco (wife's)
    1984 Audi 4000 Quattro
    1985 Mazda RX7 (wife's)
    1988 Audi 80 Quattro (over 210,000 miles when I traded it in)
    1987 Alfa Romeo Milano (wife's)
    1990 VW Passat Wagon (wife's, automatic)
    1995 Mazda Millenia (wife's)
    1995 BMW 525i
    1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee TSI (wife's)
    2000 Lincoln LS manual
    2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited (wife's)

    My LS ranks with the Alfa Romeo GTV, both BMWs, and the Audi 80 Quattro as the best cars I've owned and is the best value of any of them. I like it at least as well as my '95 BMW 525i and better than the current BMW 5 series (too soft).
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