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Bruno
I'm Pete Henry. I'm a System/Electrical/Software Engineer at a defense company in Pennsylvania. Bought a used 2001 LS V8 Sport from the Lincoln dealer in November 2001 (the original owner got swayed by 0% financing and traded this (leased) car in for a new V6 manual). Aside from some radio issues and a year's worth of gentle use no major problems with the car so far.
So far good experience with the dealer (VERY good price negotiation), although the salesperson was very new at the job and not particularly knowledgeable. Dealer service is typically shabby (why do they try to charge you for complimentary scheduled service anyway?!?) but I plan to stick it out at least until the service runs out at 36K.
Not many really interesting cars in my past history. Most notable a 1984 Mustang SVO (4 cyl turbo) bought new. Had to sell it as a precautionary measure after the son turned 15. You know how that goes...
Current fleet:
1990 Plymouth Voyager (past its prime, barely worth the cost of a new paint job, but a convenient everyday car & hauler when the seats are out)
1993 Subaru Legacy (among the last of a breed - a 2WD Subaru)
1994 Mazda Miata (bought used in 1997 after aforementioned son graduated from college - time to spend some money on ME).
2001 LS V8 Sport
The wife seems to have abandoned the Subaru in favor of the LS as a daily commuter...
One other note - the son is now enjoying life as a Jaguar technician. The S-Type was one of the first Jags he didn't have disparaging comments about mechanically, and he vouches for the commonality between the S-Type and the LS.
Thanks in advance.
Although Rene Leblanc is older than I, I've owned older cars than him.
My first car purchased as a basket case for $10 when I was 12 was a 1930 Marquette. Quite rare as they were only built the one year as a poor man's Buick.
Next came a 35 Chevy pickup. Given to me if I could get it to run - which I did. Put a rod through the block as it consumed gallons of oil per day. Eventually stuffed a 332 Buick V8 into it.
57 Ford Fairlane convertible next. 312 - 4BBL with 3 on the floor and Austin Healy bucket seats
63 Pontiac Parisenne Custom Sport Convertible. 327 - 4bbl buckets, stick etc.
66 Ford Galaxie 500 2 dr with 7 litre option. A pig but talk about torque - would melt the tires!
69 Pontiac Beaumont (Canadian Chevelle)1st new car.Paid $3200 and
ordered as a drag strip special. 350/350, 4spd, posi, police package etc. 165 K trouble free miles and 3 seasons of drag racing
72 Mercury Montego - Boss 351 4 spd trac lock, police package etc. Big mistake. Compression down from 10.5:1 to 8.50. With standard steering and wide ovals it took 3 car lenghts to park. Clutch was a killer as well. Rusted out before my eyes.
74 Grand Torino Elite. Pimp mobile but that style was in back then. Also rusted out in one winter.
76 Olds Cutlass Supreme 2 dr. Extremely popular then. I owened 4 of them. 350 Olds engine was bullet proof.
80 Chevy Malibu sports coupe. Bought from the neighbor as a winter driver wih a V6. In the spring I replaced it with a 350 and then 2 more of progressively higher horsepower. Rust set in and I couldn't keep windshields in her. The unit body with all the torque and lack of metal(rust) flexed the body and cracked them.
82 Mustang coupe. 2.3 four banger was a dog but got decent gas mileage. Zero trunk space.
88 Pontiac Bonneville. Was exciting to see someone try and spiff up the four door family sedan. 3.8 V6 is still used today by GM.
93 Pontiac Transport. Family and pets to haul around. No justice. Now there'e no snow or rust and I own a plastic car!
96 Olds 88 LSS. Excellent car. Had more features than my LS at a fraction of the price. Sorry to see it discontinued.
2000 Lincoln LS. V8 non sport with every option but RESCU. Had wood kit installed, pin striped, gold kit (a Texas thing)and a cargo net.Talking to the Lincoln engineers my particular option combination no longer exits due to CAFE.Example full rear head rests and audiophile system, moon roof, chrome wheels etc.
This is the first car I've owned that I feel confident in at 140 mph.
Charter member of LLSOC.
The problem is that the regulator / motor that drives the power windows on three of my four windows have failed. The first failure was within the warranty period, so it was covered. The last two have costing me $300+ per.
Have any of you experiences similar problems?
1. You spend $38000 on a car and a Lincoln Commitment.
2. The Power Window fails in the down position.
3. The dealer and Lincoln won't pay.
4. You "commit" to buy a Lexus.
As for me, Im 37, doing the family thing hence the need for 4 doors, but I wanted something sporty and fast. I've had several Mustangs and Trans Ams in the past and have a love of the V8 engine and the sounds it produces. It was killing me to drive the Taurus for so long but my wife and I don't see eye to eye when it comes to cars. I think she likes this car but doesn't readily admit it. I got her an Expedition two years ago (with the 5.4 V8).
What made you decide on the LS? I used to see your posts on the CTS board under your old name and you were hot on a used STS for a while.
It had 26K miles on it when I bought it and I've put 2K more on it.
My name is Russ Engs and I just recently discovered the Edmunds Town Hall. I own a black 2001 LS V6 Sport with manual trans that I bought in 2002 from a small dealership in Caledonia, Ontario. The car had been driven for a year by a Ford executive and was essentially showroom new (eg. back seats and trunk never used and not a scratch on it). The car came with advance trac, upgraded Alpine stereo, and 17" Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. I recently installed Silverstar headlights and 60W foglights and purchased a set of Goodyear Ultragrip Ice tires on 16" American Racing (Touring) alloy rims for winter driving (usually we get lots of snow here in Ontario).
I was not really in the market for a new car and test drove this car just to see what it was like. I was so impressed with this LS that I made an offer on it when I got back from the test drive and then had to go home and break the news to my wife that I'd bought another car (to add to the 4 cars, 1 motorcycle, and 1 boat that we already own!). Once she saw and drove the Lincoln, however, she agreed with my decision and now loves it too. The car handles like a dream and, although a little short on brute power, is still a lot of fun to drive. We plan to make some exhaust and intake modifications to increase the car's power and then hope to keep it for a long time. So far, except for one rear window regulator, the car has been 100% reliable and the only money spent on it has been for oil changes and wiper blades (touch wood).
I live in the city of Cambrdge, Ontario (about 50 miles west of Toronto). I am 51 years old and I work as the senior physics teacher at a local high school where I also run the school jazz band. I have many interests that include motorcycling, offshore power boating, music, photography, investing, weight lifting and physical fitness, travelling, automotive mechanics, high performance and collector cars, and for a while I operated an automotive specialty repair shop and dabbled in other entrepreneurial activities.
Cars have been a lifelong passion of mine and over the years I have owned many. Some of my high performance and sporty cars that I remember fondly include the following:
1965 Corvair Corsa 140
1973 Firebird Esprit 350
1973 Firebird Formula 455
1973 Trans Am SD-455 (black)
1973 Trans Am SD-455 (white) - still own
1974 Trans Am SD-455 (red)
1975 Bricklin SV-1
1977 Corvette L82
1979 Mazda RX-7
1980 Porsche 928
1982 Porsche 928S
1983 Mercedes SL convertible
1984 BMW 533i 5 sp manual - still own
1984 Pontiac 6000 STE
1994 BMW 740i - still own
2001 Lincoln LS V6 Sport - still own
Out of all the above cars, the Lincoln LS has to rank as one of my favorites. My wife and I fight over who is going to drive it and after mastering its manual trans, my eldest daughter now wants her first car to have a stick. I just wish that Ford had not decided to drop the manual transmission as an option. I would love to have owned a manual LS V8 or supercharged/turbocharged high performance V6! Oh well, perhaps at some point in the future they will reconsider.
I am glad I discovered this web site and look forward to communicating with all of you in the forum.
Russ
A real enthusiast's vehicle, eh what?
I arrived here via a link in a much older post, and found the thread interesting.
"Back in the day," the LS enthusiasts were willing to share lots of information. Either there are fewer of them/us now, or there is less information.
You pick.
The car still has the original clutch and the factory back brakes, so it has not been abused. The gears and synchronizers are fine. Only a bearing is shot.
Has anyone heard about problems with these units?
I think 4 of my last 5 cars and trucks have been from Ford. That said, I'll never buy another Ford / Lincoln or other Ford product as this kind of failure is inexcusable and Lincoln's attitude to me has been to "drop dead". I plan to buy two new cars and a new pickup in the next six months. I think I'll go Japanese (Lexus and Toyota Tundra) for the first time in my life.
John in NC
This is supposed to be the same transmission (Getrag) used in the BMW, but one never knows. Since only a few hundred were ever sold, it'll take forever to figure out if this is a prevalent issue. Except for one, every vehicle I've owned has been a manual, and the only transmission issue I had was with one of my Miatas, later traced to (wait for it) a Ford-induced defect.
Just to add to the misery, when you do get the transmission fixed, you can be secure in the knowledge that the mechanic doing it has never done it before and will probably never do it again.
Oh boy.
You might want to post your message in the regular "Lincoln LS" board and the "Lincoln LS, Problems & Solutions" board as well. This one gets a fraction of the traffic those do, and of course none of them gets anything like they used to.
I've owned a number of Asian vehicles in the past, and will most likely go back when the LS is used up. I think you'll be pleased if you do. Anyway, good luck, and keep us posted.
I think the manual gearbox in the LS is a Getrag gearbox, isn't it?
I placed about 20 site address into the navigator. However, I dont know how to recall the destination, other than by the address. This does NOT seem right. You should be able to refer to a name relating to the address for recall.
Any suggestions?
And while I'm at it,..i also hate the fact that I can't enter destinations while driving..(yes yes..I heard it before...its for safety ...)
As I imagine you're aware, if you don't use one of the in-line exchange devices, there's quite a lot of fluid left in the torque converter, lines, cooler & etc. that'll still be in there when you think you're finished draining it. I suppose you could do it two or three times in a row, with a good long run in between each change, and come out at about the same place, but with quite a lot more work involved.
FWIW.
My family was an early adopter of foreign cars, with a Renault Dauphine, a Volkswagon Beetle, and a Datsun B210 in the bunch. However, if not buying foreign, my parents typically bought GM. In college I drove a 1982 Honda Accord, and my family have bought foreign since. Cars I’ve owned include the following: a diesel Volkswagon Jetta, 2 Honda Accords, a Volvo 240, and a 1995 Volvo 850, which I still have. My wife drives a Volvo S70.
I spend a lot of time behind the wheel as part of my job, and after 10 years it was time to move into something newer than my Volvo 850. A spate of patriotism prompted me to focus on buying American. I did cross shop the Lexus ES330 and the Acura TL, but each had characteristics I didn’t like. The Chrysler 300 Limited carried a $5000 “regional economic adjustment,” and in my mind the interior wasn’t worth that, nor was the Caddy CTS’ interior worth the asking price. The Lincoln was a good compromise between what I didn’t like in the other cars.
Never having owned Ford products, I wasn’t familiar with Lincoln’s history until I read up on it. Lincoln really has some high points in its history: the prewar KB cars, the original Continental, the Continental Mark II (yes, I’ll go ahead and consider it a Lincoln), the 1961 Continental, the 2000 LS. Lincoln seems to have lost its way as of late, but I certainly hope the marquee turns things around, and I look forward to spending quality time with my LS.
Still, insurance company totalled it.
I recently replaced the air suspension system with the coil suspension system, guaranteed for life of the car.
The body is in beautiful condition. (some paint peeled off the rubber front bumper). Inside, there is a ripe in driver's seat upholstery, and the headliner is coming down in the back above the rear window. The passenger window works intermittently (tho it is up, it has never stuck when down)
I have done all scheduled maintenance, and kept records of that. Emissions passed easily.
What i want to find is a Lincoln Enthusiast, who would love to own and work on the car, and restore it to its day-before-yesterday top-running condition.
If anyone knows such a person, Please let me know!
Thanks so much, You all !
The transmission is shifting roughly and sometimes the check transmission message flashes with an "E" displayed in the drive indicator area. You then have to turn the car off and restart to get this to go away.
Some say to change the solonoids in the transmission, which will cost about 1,000
Anyone have any views on this as several people report a long expensive process of back and forth to the Lincoln garage to figure out the problem and try to solve it
Six years is a long time, in the LS world. The team that put it together & got it to market in '99 most assuredly no longer exists. I'm going to go out on a limb here & assume that you bought the thing for a song.
The car no longer exists, in terms of what you can buy/lease at a dealer.
The LS auto transmission has always given me lots of fodder for my discussions, the points of which are that: 1) the only way to achieve reliability is to have a manual (the LS did that for a few years) & 2) the LS auto appears to offer a number of "opportunities for improvement," some of which were executed. The LS automatic has been problematic since day one. Many work well for a long time. Enough don't that I've become even more convinced that a manual is the only way to go.
Automatic transmissions demand expensive service when they fail. Get several opinions from several shops (dealers & independents), then bring your wallet.
Good to know. Thanks.
My LS will hit 110K in the next few weeks, & I'm planning a journey way north in July which should add another 6-7K.
A prime example of what is happening at Ford. THe good people who can get good work elsewhere have taken the buyouts. 70% of the rest dont have a good thing to say about the company. Any wonder pessimism rules?