BMWs - Still The Ultimate Driving Machines?

roadburner

I like the Mustang GT and the Focus RS, but an AWD Fusion docent really excite me. That said, if Ford equips it with a track mode and a 50-50 torque distribution I may change my mind.

carboy21

@stever

Ultimate Rip-off Machines

stever

Different strokes.

hpmctorque

Maybe Mazda is "The Ultimate Driving Machine." BMW models have gone soft in recent years. According to enthusiast magazines, new BMW 3 and 5-Series don't handle and steer as precisely and communicatively as previous models. Mazda, on the other hand, continues to improve driving dynamics in interesting and creative ways. Plus, Mazdas aren't money pits.

Check out this attachment:

http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/mazdas-steering-improving-g-vectoring-control-ingenious-and-invisible

Your thoughts?

roadburner

I like Mazdas quite a bit, but my 2007 MS3 wasn't appreciably less expensive to run than my BMWs. I'm also one and done with FWD and FWD-biased AWD cars, so Mazda is not currently on my radar.

carboy21

Only good BMW worth buying is a well serviced used BMW like a CPO.
New ones are a daylight robbery . No wonder most people only lease new ones .
Dealer near me has a long waiting list for incoming CPO , where as they have to plead buyers to buy new ones .