Pickup Truck Accessories

tasselhofftasselhoff Member Posts: 1
I'm planning to purchase a pickup soon, and I'm
curious about getting certain options which don't
come from the factory.
Specifically, I want to get a lockable cargo box
cover (flat, not like like a Leer top). Can I get
such an option from a dealer, or only from
third-party vendors? Also, does anyone know of a
website with some sample prices for such an option?
Thanks in advance
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  • TheDuskTheDusk Member Posts: 2
    Tass,

    I'm planning on purchasing a Toyota Tacoma in the near future and I have been debating the addition of a Leer top, to protect my cargo..usually mountain bikes.

    I know you haven't been looking for a cap, but I'll pass on a little info. When I was talking to the salesperson at the Toyota dealer, I mentioned that I might want a cap..and asked if the dealership would install it.

    He said that he knew a vendor in town who he could call, and get the cap at a WHOLESALE price. A savings of a few hundred dollars.

    Ask your salesperson if they can work a deal for you with a local tonneau vendor.

    -dusk
  • lwflwf Member Posts: 223
    You two have started a great topic here. It seems to me that everyone who buys a pick-up will sooner or later get into buying some after-market product and, wow, the prices I've seen so far seem really unreasonable to me. These Edmunds conferences have volumes of information regarding how to shave an extra hundred dollars off the purchase of a $15,000-to-$35,000 vehicle, but I haven't heard anyone complaining bout the cost of after-the-market items that may be double what I suspect they should be. My new pick-up will be coming in the next week or two, so I've done some preliminary pricing. I'm getting numbers like $1,650 for a fiberglass cap, but the last one I bought in 1987 was only about $750. $650 for running boards and $285 for a class-3 hitch are other numbers that made my eyes roll. If any of you reading this know how win in this game, I for one would like to know about it. I've looked a couple of web sites and some catalogs, but so far I haven't seen any real bargains.
  • edr3edr3 Member Posts: 16
    I agree with the lwf's comments - prices are way too high for what you get. I would also suggest going through the dealer for bigger ticket items - it's what my father and I have done in the past and it's saved us money. I'd also consider making it a part of the sale. If they really want your business - they'll make it happen!

    I also enjoy accessorizing up my truck with aftermarket items and it seems the only way to save is to shop around. I subscribe to 4 Wheeler Magazine and they've always got ads from aftermarket stores with some great deals - I got a set of Rancho RS9000s when they were still new and hot and saved about $80 by buying mail order. You pay for the freight, but don't pay taxes.

    Also, in the back of these magazines are ads for new car dealers selling factory parts and accesories. I've bought numerous things,including a headlight assembly, through them and have saved up to a third off my local dealers best prices.

    Finally, I was interested in driving lights and liked the PIAAs, the new mini KCs, etc. but I won't pay $150-$300 for lights. I was finally able to buy some decent lights from a Pep Boys auto parts store in Denver for $60. They look similar to the PIAAs, but may not be as high a quality. But on the other hand, at a third the cost of PIAAs, I could buy another pair in a couple of years and still come out ahead.

    Good luck with your truck!
  • rportellorportello Member Posts: 8
    I can't make any comments about caps or hithches but I will be getting a new F-150 and want to have a sprayed in bed liner put in. The sprayed in liner really protects the bed from oils, scratching or any other cargo you will throw in it. The problem is, I have only found one dealer near me that does sprayed in bed liners and for a normal eight foot bed the cost is anywhere from $400-$500 dollars. The dealer I will be buying from seems to think they can do better on the price but has yet to give me an exact figure. I agree with the comment that large ticket items are probably cheaper installed by the maker at the factory or the dealer. As far as, trying to win this game of after market accessories, I think unless you are going to do the work yourself, you never really win. I used to own a Jeep and I can remember getting prices for a front brush gaurd and a soft top. The after market price just to buy the equipment was just slightly less than what it would have cost to have the dealer put it on, and if you went with a cheeper version of the same equipment you sacrificed quality. One way or another it will cost you money or time, and it's just a matter of which is more important to you.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    rportello,

    I've heard good things about the spray-on liners. The Rhino liner comes with a lifetime guarantee and lives up to it. In another chat area, a guy said that the only place he noticed some peeling was right on the lip of the tailgate where he bangs stuff in as he slides it into the bed. Once he realized the problem, he was a little more careful when putting stuff in and had no problems. Some kind of lip protector would do the same thing. He says the Rhino liner is indestructable. He has it in two of his trucks. He hauls 55 gallon drums amongst other things and there are no scratches. He said the liner loses some of it's gloss as it ages, but a little elbow grease can restore it. When it gets really cold, he said that the liner loses some of its adhesiveness and gets a little slick, so some stuff slides around. When it's not cold, he says he has no problem with stuff sliding around. He went out of his way to emphasize the durability but said to remember that is indestructable because it does not come off.....ever. He said it's worth the extra bucks to take it to someone with a lot of experience. Although I am not sure, my guess is that Rhino liner dealers are a little more expensive. Considering the price I will pay for my truck, I will likely take it to a Rhino liner dealer even if it means spending a couple hundred bucks more. for all I know, they aren't any more expensive. What I do know is the last thing I want is overspray on my paint job or an uneven application. Plus, Rhino liner has been around and will continue to be around. A lifetime guarantee is no good if the company goes out of business. Anybody have any feedback on other spray-on liner companies?
  • gene7722gene7722 Member Posts: 9
    Rino Liners : I just saw them for the first time at the Cleveland auto show. Interesting concept. But I'm kinda skeptical. Cost is a factor, flexibility another. The truck at the show was a Dakota, the liner was done incorrectly and on the tailgate the access screws for the latch were covered. A mistake pointed out by the salesman there. I asked about the possibilty for use on a Ram, since they have the Tie downs in the floor, he was unaware of that & didn't know how the liner would work with that situation. Any info appreciated. Starting to think of accessories for planned new truck (Ram QC 1500 2wd). :>>>
  • gene7722gene7722 Member Posts: 9
    Does anybody participate in this arena? Its been 5 days since my post.
  • fredwoodfredwood Member Posts: 79
    Sorry there big guy...some of us dont have an opinion on spray in bed liners.

    Besides I think it is kind of lame to spend money to someone else for a spray in bed liner. Buy yourself a air compressor and a spray gun. You'll use the air compressor for all kinds of stuff around the house. A cheap spray gun is about $30 bucks. Paint in pints is available from automotive supply houses for about $20. This way you can keep your bed looking brand new all year round!! Sure the initial costs are a little higher than a bed liner or spray in bed liner, but having the right tools give you more satisfaction. Hmmm, the fence is looking a bit shabby, maybe I'll paint it this weekend.
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    I had a rhino liner in my last truck and had a good experience with it. Saw an add for Line-X liners in Trailer Life. Went to a Line-X dealer and liked it better. Hard to explain but the Line-X looked more like a factory finish because the texture was much more uniform. Can't say anything bad about Rhino. The only scrape off I got was when a fork lift fork hit the wheel well and scraped it a little. I think either product would scrape off in that situation.
  • gene7722gene7722 Member Posts: 9
    Brutus & pete38 : Thanx. pete saw your post in "ram owners" just posted a reply. gotta go to work late already, dang computer .
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    The web site for Line-x is: www.line-x.com
  • lwflwf Member Posts: 223
    I'm surprised all of you have to go looking for a Rhino-liner dealer. They found me. Two of them sent me ads within one week of the date I took delivery on my new truck. They must have people working at the motor-vehicle department. Anyway, I went to look at the one that was closest to where I live. It certainly looked durable, but I didn't really like what I saw for the same reason I never liked "undercoating" or "seat covers" (anyone out there old enough to remember the time when they were popular). It seems to me the cure is much worse than the disease. I just spent 20 grand for a new pickup. The Rhino-liner material isn't paint; it's thick (1/8-to-1/4 inch) glop that hardens to become a protective but not very aesthetic finsh. I want to protect the bed, but not at the cost of ruining appearance of my beautiful new truck. Maybe if you're going to haul crushed stone or cement blocks in your new truck, a Rhino liner is the thing to get. But I use a trailer for that sort of thing, so no gloppy sprayed-in liners for me, thank you. I'd rather take my chances with a rubber mat for the floor & inside tailgate and follow fredwood's advice and simply repaint the inside walls every couple of years, if they need it. Even if I painted it with a brush, it would look better than a Rhino liner. The Rhino guy quoted me $385, by the way. A rubber-mat kit for the bed floor and tailgate from Ford is about $65 and perhaps cheaper from an auto-parts store. With that kind of a difference in price, you don't have to settle for a $30 sprayer fredwood. You should be able to get a first-rate compressor and spray gun, and have the most attractive fence in town.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    I'll almost certainly get a spray-in liner in my new truck, but I have to admit, I have had no bedliner in my truck for the past six years and there are no signs of rust. Granted, it's scratched up, but from what I understand, I could get a spray-on now, and the truck would be no worse than if I got it from the start. Still, it would look better now for resale if I had one.
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    I was in Atlanta last week and saw a Rhino liner (for the first time) in the back of a '97 F-150. This F-150 was a WORK TRUCK. The liner looked like do-do BUT all it would take is a quick spray with a hose to make it look like new. The truck was white, the Rhino was, well rhino in color. I'm not sure if that was the black or grey Rhino coloring. I think that I'm going to find a Line-X dealer. The black of the Line-X sure looked a lot better than the Rhino.
    Rich
  • drozdroz Member Posts: 30
    I guess maybe I am missing something. Is their some benefit to the spray-on liners vs the plastic one piece ones that fit right in? I have had them on my trucks and you can throw rocks or chunks of steel in all day with no damage and they can be removed easily. Sure, things will slide but that is a minor problem. And they are a lot cheaper. But I interested in opinions since I will be getting a new truck soon.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    I've heard a lot about water getting trapped under the bed liner and causing rust. I've also heard about the liner itself scratching the bed. I'm not sure how much a plastic liner costs. Maybe $250? Aren't spray-ons about $500? IF the spray-ons look better and work better as I've heard they do, it sounds like it is probably worth the extra $250 or so considering the cost of the truck. I'm still researching, but I'm pretty sure I will get a spray-on.
  • drozdroz Member Posts: 30
    I have had two liners in my trucks and can check periodically and there has been no rust over 15 years. Any areas that are scratched are neatly buffed. They cost about $150. Any water that gets underneath runs out just like in the normal bed. And, you can always remove it
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    The problem of trapped water comes from debris plugging the drain holes in the bed. The water is then "trapped" and sits until it evaporates. I've had both kinds of liners and will never own another slide in. Cargo slides all over the place and I did have some trouble with the liner itself taking the paint off. The biggest reason is that I put a fith wheel hitch in and to do that with the plastic you have to have cutouts in your liner or pull the liner out each time you go, I didn't want to do that. I bolted my fifth wheel rails right to the Rhino and pickup bed and never had a problem. If you ask a Rhino or Line-X dealer they say you shouldn't do this. I'm sure it is a liablility issue, so if you decide to do it you are on your own, ;-)
  • fredwoodfredwood Member Posts: 79
    $500 for a spray in liner?!!! Are you guys nuts?!!

    You can get two rolls of masking tape, a newspaper (for masking) and 4-5 cans of undercoat at pepboys for about $30!!!!!

    Come on Fellow Truck owners, get off your [non-permissible content removed] and do it yourself. You can also say you did it yourself and take pride in it.

    With all the money I just saved you, you can buy me a BEER!
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    I think I'll buy myself a couple of cold beers while I'm waiting on the guy to spray my liner. Call me a wimp, but that stuff doesn't come off. I'd rather not have the application looking like crap or worse yet, overspray on my truck for the next 10+ years.
  • fredwoodfredwood Member Posts: 79
    That's fine if you got money to burn. I dont and I'm sure that many other truck owners dont either. I just saw a chevy with a spray on liner over the rails...I thought it looked cheezy. You could see where the masking tape was not perfectly smooth. Good luck there Brutus.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    What do you think is best, over or under the rails?
  • fredwoodfredwood Member Posts: 79
    Under the rails, but protect the rails with some rail caps. My brother-in-law had a 94 Ford with aluminum diamond plate rail caps that looked like they had been chromed. They looked real good. He also had a matching storage box in aluminum diamond plate.

    Unfortunately, he had his truck bought back by Ford under the lemon law. The diesel kept throwing belts and had all kinds weird little problems.
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    Go over the rails is my opinion. Rail caps look nice but they get all dinged up if you use your truck like a truck. Look at the work the guy who sprays the liners on before you give him your truck. There are some crappy dealers out there. Take a look at Line-X there spray looks better to me. I agree with Brutus, I'll buy myself a couple of beers and watch the guy spray it on. I'm not going to use a roll of masking tape and undercoat on my 35,000 truck! When I go to trade my truck in I might even get a little more with a good spray on liner instead of some undercoat schlooped on while I was drunk from all the beer I bought saving the money!
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    I was just at the Long Beach Gran Prix. The local (Long Beach) dealer for Line-X had a display. As part of the display there was a truck box (No truck, just the box.) on display. One side was done as an over the rail and the other as an under the rail. The over looked as good as the protective plastic Ford has put on the '97 F-150. They had about a square foot sample of the material. It is tough stuff and an eighth to 3/16 thick. The top surface appears granular (Like coarse sand) but quickly flows into a solid coating. The black color is MUCH better looking than the greyish Rhino I saw recently in Atlanta. The price quote was $385 for an 8 foot bed and under the rail. State sales tax is only on $125. (Labor isn't taxed in California.) In all the Line-X looked better and apparently this shop has the ability to spray it so it looks good.

    I think that this has made my decision easier. It'll be Line-X for my new truck.

    Rich
  • fredwoodfredwood Member Posts: 79
    I still cant see spending $300-500 for coating the bed of a brand new truck. In my opinion,coated beds look cheezy. Usually when someone coats their bed its to hide something (on a used truck). You guys are spending big bucks on new trucks and I cant blame you one bit for trying to preserve your investment. I have hauled gravel, lumber, jet skis, you name it, in the back of my truck. Sure its got some scratches, but its a TRUCK! The bed does not look that bad considering what I have put in it. The most damage that has happened to the bed of my truck was from my camper shell. Maybe I'll just Line-X the whole damn thing and be done with it.
  • kirkpamakirkpama Member Posts: 64
    The spray in liner sounds like a good idea, but no one has mentioned what happens if you have a quarter panel collision and have to replace the quarter panel. With a slide in liner, you just remove it and put it back in. If you have the sprayed in liner, do you just get a new sprayed in liner as part of the insurance settlement?
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    fredwood and kirkpama,
    Like the CW song says, it's my baby's limo.

    As far as repairs go, the dealers that I've talked to have the ability to repair a deep gouge. The company itself says that repairs are simple.

    I havent received a sample of the Rhino but the Line-X is much tougher than my present Dura Liner.

    Rich
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    Good question about insurance replacing the spray on if a quarter panel needs replaced. I would assume it would be replaced, like a running board would be replaced if you got smashed on the side. Fredwood has me doubting about the spray on now... am thinking about just buying a rubber mat and going with that for a while. If it starts to get scratched up, then maybe go to line-x. Fredwood, now you have me all confused again! :-)
  • fredwoodfredwood Member Posts: 79
    Sorry pete38, just trying to save people money. A lot of the focus of the conferences have been about how not to get ripped off at the dealer. Like knowing the retail price, salesmanship techniques, rejecting the extended warrantee and the undercoating sales pitch at the end of the negotiations. I see these sprayed on bed liners as very similar to the undercoating options dealers try to gouge us with (at least us in Cal).

    When I put gravel in the bed of my truck, I put a tarp down first. When I load a jet ski in the back, I put down a scrap piece of plywood. I like the look of a painted bed the same color as my truck.

    As far as I know you cant replace the "quarter panel" on a truck bed. You would have to get a whole new bed and, therefore, the whole liner would have to be sprayed.

    By the way, dont watch the people apply your spray in liner. They will have to sand down the clear coat in the bed to get the coating to stick well. I could not bear to watch some guy with 100 grit sand paper go to town on my new $30,000 truck.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    My dad's black Rhino liner looks really nice on his dark forest green truck. I think it looks better than if the bed were green. The tires and the bed accent each other. I don't think a black bed would look good in my current truck since it's off-white with a mocha strip. On the other hand, I think a black bed would look good in a solid white truck, but that's just a personal opinion. I like the contrast in color with a one-tone color truck and a black bed.

    Of course, I won't have that problem since my new truck will be black. A solid black bed will look better in my truck than a scratched black bed. The black will show all the dings. Maybe I should take your previous advice. What do you think it would cost to do the whole truck with the spray-in? Just kidding, of course. I have heard of people spraying the rocker panels, which I guess makes sense. I'm still going to get a spray-on for the bed. I'm debating over or under the rails and likely won't decide until I see some examples of each.
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    Fredwood, you just solved my problem, now I remember why I got the Rhino in my old truck! When I would go to pick up something, I would always be as careful as I could but would always end up taking a lot of time. Then the time we were visiting some freinds in the mountains and my wife wanted to bring a "rock" home. Our friends said it was OK because they wanted to clear some of the rocks off their property. We loaded the stupid thing on the bed and did fine. Then on the way home, I swerved to miss a deer and that rock rolled off and scratched the heck out of my bed. Went and got the rhino sprayed on and everything stays in place and I don't have to be careful. Now I'm back to giving the Line-X dealer a call. As far as going over the rails, I will but thats another story!
  • fredwoodfredwood Member Posts: 79
    I had an empty cooler in the back of my old Datsun truck one night on a windy mountain road. That stupid empty cooler bouncing around the bed did so much damage that no spray on liner would have prevented. Actually, I dont think the cooler was as stupid as I was. Since I did not have a bundge cord with me. Now I carry tie downs, rope, bundge's and a tow strap.

    Enjoy your rocks, but you still have to hold them in place some how!
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    A pickup without a bungee cord or extra rope? Isn't that illegal?
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    Hey the rope was there, just a stupid driver that thought it would be so heavy he wouldn't need it. It took 6 pretty strong guys to get the rock in the back of the truck not to mention the 6 ladies advice as we did it! I think the spray on would have prevented the damage from the cooler and from the rock. The rock wouldn't have slid, and the cooler wouldn't have slid as much if at all. It is pretty amazing stuff. The non-sliding part can be a problem when you want to "slide" something to the front...it just won't do it. Gotta lift it.
  • fredwoodfredwood Member Posts: 79
    Six guys to pick up a rock? I think that would be classified as a boulder.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    Depends on where you live. Those of us who have lived in Alaska and now in this small state of Texas, kind of, think of Mt. Rushmore as a boulder. This new truck I ordered might be able to pull it, but it wouldn't fit in the bed.

    I've heard that the adhesive benefit isn't as effective in cold weather (cold weather being defined as below freezing). Things are prone to slide around a little more than when it is warmer.
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    I think you are both right, I was being a sarcastic about the rock comment, it was the way my wife asked me... "Honey can we take a rock home for our front yard, Jill said she didn't mind", then when I saw the "rock" I S--- my pants. We still laugh about that day and I mean everybody in the group... Whenever we see anybody they always have some smart comment about our "rock". I noticed on my Rhino that in the Winter it was slicker but still better than a plain bed or my old drop in liner which I always thought I could ice skate on. I stopped quick once with that liner and had some trolling rods laying in back "snap snap" go the rods when my tackle box slid into them. Yes I know another stupid thing, but I'm so good at them and yes my tackle box looks more like a suitcase.
  • swandersswanders Member Posts: 8
    i've ordered a '99 f250 crew cab lariat 4x4 and want a fiberglass shell custom made for this truck model and paint (black). i bought my last one for my '94 f150 in denver and it's a falcon and has been a great buy. i'm in omaha now and looking. any info would be appreciated. i'll drive back to denver again if i have to.
  • lwflwf Member Posts: 223
    The title of this topic is "truck accessories" but so far spray-on liners has been the main topic. Swanders brought up the subject of a fiberglass shell, which I presume is another name for a cap, but so far I've seen no response. He wants a custom-made one, but I would settle for an off-the-shelf model. However, I haven't seen anything that turns me on. But I live in New Jersey which isn't what you would call pickup-truck country, so it's not too surprising there's not much to see around here. There are dealers in the vicinity, but they think a picture should do it for me; it doesn't. Well anyway, I've got an F150 extended cab, and if anyone also has one of those with a fiberglass cap and is really happy with the combo, I'd sure appreciate hearing about it.
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    I don't know if these are nationwide, but out here in Colorado were there seems to be a few pickups around...not as many as Texas for sure, Leer is a pretty popular brand for fiberglass. They come from the factory to match your vehicle paint. They are durable and well constructed, you can get one here for close to a 1000 with a slider in front and slam rearwindow which gives the appearance of a SUV when it is on the truck. If worse comes to worse drive out here to Colorado and look at them the scenery isn't bad! :-) I'm driving back east this summer to someplace called Washington D.C. then down to Florida, back to Colorado only 5,000 miles! Does anyone know if there is a good place to camp around Hagerstown, MD and is that to close/far from DC? We would like to take a train in and not drive if possible. I don't think my Quad cab, 8ft bed Pickup would be easy to find a parking space for and my Colorado driving might not fit in either!
  • drrussdrruss Member Posts: 1
    While running thru the Mid-west,detour up to Elkhart,Indiana...The Home of LEER Caps and accessories.

    Check out their Showroom/Outlet Store for some good deals on Caps,bed covers and such.

    They have some(2nds) with slight blemishes,that you can get a deal on.

    And I think they'll install while you wait..!

    I got one in '88 for my Nissan P/U..think I paid just a little under $400.00 for one Color matched with Dark Tinted side windows.
  • fredwoodfredwood Member Posts: 79
    When buying a shell or cap, have the dealer test fit it. I bought mine and when I got home I noticed that it hung over a little in certain spots. I tried to have it adjusted and it still hangs over bed rails. While most people dont notice it, I do.
  • pocahontaspocahontas Member Posts: 802
    Yes, watch out if your buying used/older shell. The newer trucks have the break lights sticking out back center of cab. Some of the older shells are not made for this change, and will jut out a little. The newer shells also will have a center break light attached on back of shell.

    Former Truck Owner
  • AirwolfAirwolf Member Posts: 142
    pete38, great news on your 5th wheel install over the Rhino liner. On my new truck (when I get it) I planned on adding a liner AND a heavy-duty roll bar (for Emergency Lights) but didn't know if I could install it through the liner. Now I do. But since you mentioned we were on our own, have you had any further problems with it?
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    I pulled my fifth Wheel for three years with the hitch installed over the rhino and never had any trouble, movement etc. The way I had it done was, ahd hitch installed, removed hitch by unbolting mounting rails, had rhino sprayed on and had the holes for the bolts masked off. Let Rhino "cure" for a week, Reinstalled the mounting rails then used the hitch as normal. Never had a problem but I did check frequently to make sure the bolts didn't come loose. Hitch manufactures of course say "metal to metal" is the only way to go.
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    Pete38,
    I have found a trick for driving in the Washington DC area. Usually I've rented a car and have a map from the rental car company. The trick is to hold the map where other drivers can see it, use your turn signals and go where you want. Even the taxi cabs get out of your way. I had always fought the traffic for 15+ years and then discovered the map trick. I was astounded at the difference! For you Washingtonians, I left the National Zoo at about 4 PM and was in Northern Virginia (Tyson's Corners) before 4:45 PM on a week day using this system.

    Rich
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    richflynn, what a great idea! I was nervous driving in LA a few years ago and then on top of that I was caught in the right lane when I needed a left lane exit 4 lanes over ( We don't have very many left lane exits here in Colorado) I put on my blinker and traffic let me make my exit. In contrast back in Colorado at the end of the trip I needed to make a 1 lane change for over a mile and couldn't get it done nobody would budge. I wondered if it had something to do with the out of state plates because I noticed if I'm on the highway and I see someone out of state pulling a rig I go out of my way to let them get were they need to go because I've had that stressful feeling of traveling in unfamiliar territory. With your suggestion though I will embellish my "tourist" status with that map!
  • lwflwf Member Posts: 223
    In the state I live and drive in, if a cop sees, what he thinks, is someone reading a newspaper or a map while driving down the highway, that someone is going to get stopped. And I think he or she will get a ticket for careless, maybe wreckless, driving----as he/she damn-well should.
  • pete38pete38 Member Posts: 52
    lwf, lighten up a little. If the big problem in your state is somebody holding a map to make sure they are going the right way, you must have no problems there! Reading a newspaper is no way equivicable to glancing at a map. Do they pull people over for changing radio stations or adjusting the heat controls too? I wish I had all 50 states road systems down pat, but I don't, so I guess I'll just have to be reckless and use a map.
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