Chevy Silverado - Continued XVIII

seelig

there have been a few chevy engines built to rev at 9K.

danog

Wow guys, thanks for the many replies. It had sat in the driveway overnight. I thought it could be the valve seals not set completely. I will watch it and have it checked.
A friend came over to watch AL - AU (ROLL TIDE!) and he showed me how to remove the lights. I felt like an idiot it was so simple.
A little help with the PVC thing, you got me on this one.

Thanks,
Dano

minikin

Oh, yeah, I know 9K ain't no big deal anymore. I was just remembering back to my early, early 60's racing days.
-- Don

minikin

One thing it could be, if it keeps doing this, is a split seal, damaged in manufacture. Haven't seen that recently, but something to keep in mind if you have to take it in, and easy to fix.
-- Don

blackmax200

'twas once upon a time in 1966 a 301 Corvette and a 298 Fairlane were the final for Top Stock Eliminator that Sunday afternoon.... Big blocks broke or broke out. Both cars had that blue/black haze from underneath as they went through the traps at what was reported to be 9k...

hmmmm...memory is vague, but I think it was 10.99 to an 11.02...I do remember...Corvette won, we lost...

Interesting thing about the 289 was, we used Chevrolet valves in the heads, and a bunch of other Chevy parts to get that Ford to run like that. 10 grand was right around the corner, but it tore up valve springs like crazy and twisted oil pump drives(Ford and their stupid 5/16 hex drive shaft). That car had more low end torque than a small block had a right to have....

Ah, Saturday night memories...

matthew

txyank1

reading that in this instance. I was dealing with the DRL's which aren't halogen. But having dealt with halogen bulbs in the past I always use my handkerchief when changing any bulbs in my vehicles.

txyank1

already know this but yes there is a Caution for Halogen bulbs that refernces the fact they are pressurized and can burst if they get scratched or dropped.. Then in the instructions for the headlights and the section on parking, turning and DRL's it staes "Use care not to touch the bulb with your fingers or hands".

z71man

I have a 1999 chevy silverado z71 ext. cab with 5.3l vortec and autotrac transfer case.( new body style) Truck has about 46,000 miles so it is out of warranty now. Problem is my 4x4 high does not work..rear wheels just spin..but on auto setting everything works fine. When pushing 4 low you hear a clunk and it shifts to it but seems just rear wheels spin only too.(on snow and ice)Fluids are fine and I do not do any off roading. Tried disconnecting battery to reset but same problem. I noticed 4 high does not work after I got new tires put on at a tire shop. Do not know if related though. Any ideas would be helpful before I send to the dealer.

roger350

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I've got a question on your rear catch-all mat. Did you say you ordered the one for the 2nd row seat in a Suburban? Or did you actually order the part number for the extended cab? Thanks.

lspangler1

Just out of curiosity, the wife and test drove a new Dodge truck and an '02 Chevy within ten minutes of each other. The dodge was a 4x4 SLT with teh 5.9. This truck was rode and drove very nicely and the cab is HUGE with many nice storage places, the engine sucked. It seems very underpowered and it's rated at 11 city and 14 highway, Ouch. The Chevy we drove was the mid level 4x4 with the 5.3. My wife tried to drive it the same as the dodge and was surprised by the sound of squealing tires. Though the Chevy felt smaller and looser inside, if that makes sense. I just wish I wasn't stuck in my lease or I'd have bought the Chevy on the spot.

If Dodge could put a serious engine in a truck and make it last, I might be interested. For you guys driving Chevy's, sit in a new dodge and tell me if the cab seems enormous after being in the Chevy?

ricsch

Hi everyone, I need a little help in getting some info on a TSB # 01-08-45-005. I got the number from a person on another site, but would like to get the specifics prior to dealer contact. Have a company vehicle, Chev. Venture with a 3400 V6 that has an intermittent problem when starting the engine when it's at operating temp. Has a tendency to crank much longer than usual, and you know how the dealer service guys never can duplicate a problem. Thanks!

obyone

I had ordered the rear mats for an extended cab silverado.

obyone

thanks for the info. Was thinking that was the case....just too dam lazy to look it up and be certain.

txyank1

64roadster

Been following posts for 9+ months and don't recall seeing any posts dealing with Auto Trans Fluid changes at 15 to 20,000 miles.
Any Tips?
Do you drain the converter separately? Capacity?
Fluid brand recommendations? I can get AAMCO, Vavoline, Quaker State for $1.90/quart at Autozone, Kragen and Walmart respectively. Or Costco sells a case of Chevron for $1.00/quart.
Anything wrong with Chevron? (all are Dexron III).

87lion

I drove the Dodge before buying my Silverado, but I don't remember the cab seeming huge compared to the Chevy. My wife thinks the dash is too close to the passenger seat in the Chevy. I have an x-cab and the Dodge definitely has a much smaller seat. I agree with you about the engine. My 4.8l has more pep than the large dodge engine. And better mileage too.

roger350

Thanks Obyone.

mdw1000

Well i survived, still have a job for now!

Any of you guys have the intermediate steering shaft replaced for the clunking in the steering on the 99s? If so, was your steering wheel off center after this fix? Mine is, and two dealers seem to think an alignment might fix this but Chevy won't cover it under warranty. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark

ricsch

What would a used set be worth? Have @ 30,000 miles. Any negative issues with them, towing or otherwise?
Thanks for the help.

kanton1

my HD was built yesterday, just as the dealer said it would be. order placed 10/30 hope to have it by end of month!

Kyle

rayt2

Glad you missed the layoffs. My steering shaft was replaced but no affect on steering wheel, if yours was centered when you brought it in it should be the same when it leaves regardless of whether it needs alignment or not, tell the dealer to fix it!
My grille and left headlight assembly just got customized by Bambi's father this past weekend to the tune of $450 !#@*&#@!

Ray T.

mgdvhman

How many points he have?

I always say that if ya miss them by Remington....get them with Chevy!

haha

.just kidding...

- Tim

quadrunner500

Front Wheels Slipping with Vehicle in Four WHeel Drive (Replace Transfer Case Clutch Plates and Front Drive Axle Lubricant) #99-04-21-003B
Front Wheels Slipping with Vehicle in Four Wheel Drive (Replace Transfer Case Clutch Plates and Front Drive Axle Lubricant)
1999-2001 Chevrolet and GMC K and T Models (Silverado, Sierra, Blazer, Envoy, Jimmy)

with NV236/246 Transfer Case (RPO NP8)

This bulletin is being revised to correct a part number in the Parts Information section. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 99-04-21-003A (Section 04 -- Driveline/Axle).

Condition
Some owners may comment on a slipping type condition at the front wheels while the vehicle is in four wheel drive (4WD).

Cause
When the vehicle is driven extensively in low temperatures (-12°C (10°F) or below), slipping may occur when the vehicle is in the 2 HI mode. This occurs because the transfer case clutch pack does not have enough torque capacity to overcome the viscosity of the front axle lubricant. The friction generated by the slipping clutch discs may cause premature wear of the clutch pack assembly.

Correction
Overhaul the transfer case and replace the clutch plates on affected vehicles. Replace the lubricant in the front drive axle with synthetic axle lubricant, P/N 12378261 (in Canada, use P/N 10953455). Use the following procedure and the part numbers listed below.

Remove the transfer case drain plug. If the plug is difficult to remove or stripped, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 99-04-21-001.
Drain the fluid from the transfer case. Refer to the Transfer Case sub-section of the applicable Service Manual.
Remove the transfer case assembly from the vehicle. Refer to the Transfer Case sub-section of the applicable Service Manual.

Important
The NV236 transfer case (T Models) uses 8 friction and 7 steel plates. The NV246 transfer case (K Models) uses 10 friction and 9 steel plates.

Overhaul the transfer case and replace the clutch plates. Refer to the applicable Transmission/Transaxle and Transfer Case Unit Repair Manual.
Install the transfer case assembly into the vehicle. Refer to the Transfer Case sub-section of the applicable Service Manual.
Install the transfer case drain plug. Tighten
Tighten the drain plug to 20 N·m (15 lb ft).

Important
Do not use standard DEXRON® lll fluid. Performance of the transfer case may be impaired.

Remove the transfer case fill plug. If the plug is difficult to remove or stripped, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 99-04-21-001.
Fill the transfer case with 1.9 L (2 qts) of Automatic (AUTO- TRAK ll) Transfer Case fluid, P/N 12378508 (in Canada, use P/N 10953626).
Install the transfer case fill plug. Tighten
Tighten the fill plug to 20 N·m (15N·mlbN·mft).

Change the front drive axle lubricant to synthetic axle lubricant, P/N 12378261 (in Canada, use P/N 10953455). Fill the drive axle with 1.66 L (1.76 qts) for K Truck or 1.20 L (1.27 qts) for T Truck. Refer to the Front Drive Axle sub-section of the applicable Service Manual.
Parts Information
P/N Description Qty
12378261 (In Canada use 10953455) SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Axle Lubricant (K, T Models) 2
12378508 (In Canada use 10953626) Automatic (Auto Trac) Transfer Case Fluid (K, T Models) 2
12472603 Bolt, Transfer Case (K Models) 17
12472603 Bolt, Transfer Case (T Models) 13
12473054 Plate, Transfer Case Pressure - Friction (K Models) 10
12473054 Plate, Transfer Case Pressure - Friction (T Models) 8
12547608 Plate, Transfer Case Pressure - Steel (K Models) 9
12547608 Plate, Transfer Case Pressure - Steel (T Models) 7
12547466 Seal, Frt. Input Gear Oil (K, T Models) 1
12547656 Seal, Frt. Output Shaft Oil (K, T Models) 1
12547638 Seal, Rear Output Shaft (K, T Models) 1
12474121 Shim Kit, Transfer Case (K, T Models) 1
12473057 Stud, Transfer Case (T Models) 4

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation Description Labor Time
K4400 Transfer Case Assembly - Recondition (Incl. R&R) 4.0 hrs
Add w/Transfer Case Skid Plate 0.2 hr
Add w/Front Differential Skid Plate 0.2 hr
In Other Labor Hours, add 0.2 hr for Draining and Refilling Front drive axle lubricant. Authorization is required.

© Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

hunter98

I feel like I missed a doozy. Over the weekend, on a deer drive, a 1 mile long draw breaks into 2 1/4 mile Y's. I was in one of the Y's as a blocker. A doe and a BIG buck ran down the other Y, say the other blocker and ran across the field into my Y. They ran in about 50 or 60 yards in front of me into the 150 ft wide fence row. I saw the Doe, and she saw me, she flared from left to right across the draw, in the honesuckle, and I took two fleeting shots at her with my new scope, I didn't know that the buck was even there, but just as she is about 20 feet from the edge of the draw, I see a RACK following her in the scope, about a 200 lb deer, a massive 10 pointer with extra points. The biggest deer I ever saw in the woods. A definate wall hanger. I counldn't get my scope on him till he was about 75 yards and didn't get a clear shot. I made a fleeting shot and missed him and the doe.

I did kill a buck with 10" points, of course there were only two of them, he was a 1 1/2 year old spike, but the good eating kind

If I hadn't shot at that doe in the first place, he that stood so much higher over the weeds would have been a much bigger target, and I think I would have nailed my first wall hanger, oh well, live and learn!

PS, the truck is running great, got 16 mpg last tank, and ran it HARD!!! Breakin her in.
She goes in for the first oil change on Friday, will have about 2500 miles and 100 hours on her.

Hunter

txyank1

We weren't so lucky here in TX. They're closing the plant entirely so Wife and Son-in-Law will be out of job sometime in the 1st qtr. next year. 17 and 19 yrs. resectively with the Co.
Question for those who change their own oil........where do you dispose of the used oil? Seems like I've heard that places like Jiffy Lube will take it? I assume for a disposal fee.

minikin

Sorry to hear about the job problems. I'm old enough to retire if it hits me and right about now is the first time I've felt "good" about that.
As for getting rid of used oil; our town/county does an annual household HazMat disposal thing and I just store mine in a couple of old Jerry cans until then. But, some of the car parts stores, Checker's for one, will take used oil around here for free. The key seems to be convincing them that your oil isn't contaminated; particularly with ethylene glycol.
-- Don

obyone

as it is in a solid form (unable to be absorbed into the ground) that it could be disposed of as regular garbage.

mdw1000

I lost three good friends in TX to the closure.

For those of you looking for good deals on computers, I just got a refurbished HP from computergeeks.com. 229 bucks for 700mhz celeron with dvd, 20GB HD, 64MB of memory. I upgraded to 256MB for another twenty bucks, and shipping was about 30 bucks, so a total of 280 bucks for a PC. I had to add a monitor and OS, but I already had those.

Mark

mgdvhman

We did very good so farr....6 nice 8 points and 1 7 point...(me)

even took first place with our buck at the local buck pole..(not mine....but our camp)

a few years ago we started getting a large part of the county to shoot 6 or bigger so they can grow up to be good ones.....it's starting to work..

I passed on a dozen or so Spikes....6 4 pointers and 2 small 6 pointers.......and seen over a hundred doe....

once ya get a taste for the biggens....ya don't even want to shoot the little guys...

we have enough doe to shoot them at the end of season for meat and let the small bucks go.

gonna look real good in a few more years

pics later...I still have to re-size them and sort them out...

Congrats

- Tim

txyank1

thing about it is that now my Wife will retire. That doesn't amount to beans monitarily but at least she's done and didn't have to make the decison herself. Now fewer vacations and fewer new trucks though.
Tim, are you in rifle country? Where I lived back in NY we had to use shotguns (slugs). Tuff to get clear enough shots in the woods. Doesn't take much to deflect a slug and not much range.

mgdvhman

..rifles all the way......Mostly .30-06 and .308..some .270's...

all overkill.....but people seem to like that....including me!..(.30-06)

They do a nice job though and are forgiving when ya get buck fever or are just a lousy shot that day...

Enjoy

- Tim

seelig

might as well take along the Howitzer too......

-
good luck on this one now!

rayt2

Tx, used oil, by N.Y. State Law, has to be excepted at any repair shop that does oil changes (free of charge)up to 5 gallons. I usually drop my containers off at Sears.
Rifles are allowed in certain counties of NY for hunting, mostly upstate where not as populated, I'm in Dutchess County which does not allow it, shotguns only.

Tim, It was a 4 pointer standing along guardrail deciding whether or not he wanted to go to the other side, I was coming back at 2:30am from playing hockey, saw him up ahead and started slowing down from 50mph and saying to myself "just jump the damn thing and don't turn into me it's a new truck" I think he gave me some kind of animal gesture then turned right into me, bam!
I got down to about 10mph when we hit, he fell to the ground, got up looked at me wobbled off into the woods. I went back later when sun was up and searched 200 square foot area for him but no sign, good thing for him or he'd be on the table tomorrow. I sure was glad the airbags didn't activate, those bags may save lives but for minor crashes they make the repairs expensive.

Ray T.

gator36

Had a guy hit me in my old 97 GMC Sierra
Both airbags deployed. That is something I never
want to go through again. There was enough gas
discgarged from them to break the latch on one of
rear windows.
The steering wheel airbag scraped up my arms when
it went off and almost knocked my hands from the
steering wheel.
It is a very unpleasant experience. Stuns you for
a couple of seconds.

Damage: airbags alone $2,000.00
Total cost of repairs. $6,000

Luckily no one was hurt.
Report found the other guy at fault.

Personally I don't wish iy upon anyone.

jnj91

My Father pulls a fifth wheel travel trailer, 35' job. He is looking for a 2WD Silverado Ext cab 2500HD. He is having a hard time finding a 2WD in the LX. I found 2, one is the 8100 w/ Allison (which he wants) it only has the 3.73 axle. The other is the 6000 engine but it has the 4.10 axle.

Which is the best configuration for pulling heavy loads. The truck won't be driven much without the trailer.

Thanks for any input.

Julie

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

mgdvhman

,...that's for sure...

up there insurance companies are hounding the DNR to do something....hence why you can buy a doe permit per day....

I have had close calls.....but never a collison....had a few friends have them though...

One lady had a wierd one......the deer jumped up and avoided the hood/front end at the last minute....went thru the windshield partially and jumped back out.....left nothing but a windshield to be replaced and a little bit of fur on the trim......nobody would believe her she hit a deer

- Tim

danog

New computer is here! Very nice so far.

I take my used oil to a local oil change facility and drop it in for free. They shouldn't charge you to drop it off.

Jobs, sorry to here many are being effected. Never know around here if I'm clear or not. New owners and things are very different now.

So far three people I know have returned their HP's and swapped to other computers. Don't know the specifics other than they were not satisfied.

Later,
Dano

PF_Flyer

You're right about the amount of damage a deer can do. In early October, my wife was coming back home at about 10:30 PM from a meeting. She was on a 4 lane road in a "deer infested" area and was watching the edges of the road carefully as she drove along at about 60 MPH, She came around a bend and there was a doe standing with it's head down right on the dotted line bewteen the two lanes. I'm guessing that it had been clipped by a previous car since the deer are usually pretty alert looking when on the pavement. In any event, she got onthe brakes and tried to avoid the deer by heading towards the shoulder of the road. The deer sort of drifted towards the right and she JUST clipped the head with the left front of the car. Took out the turn signal lens and pushed the headlight assembly back into the car. Didn't get the hood, but creased in the left fender. Total damage about $1300. Who knows what would have been left if it had been a direct hit!

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rayt2

Right you are with the air bags. My wife had a deer run into the left front side of her van (96 Windstar)which deployed the airbags, her right hand was flung into the rear view mirror by the airbag deployment, damn near broke her hand. She at least had the composure to grab back on and steer to shoulder and stop, first guy who came along didn't care how she was just wanted to know if he could have the deer (this happened in upstate Rome, NY). Airbags alone cost $1500 total damage was $5700.
I was glad the deer hit on my truck didn't activate those bags!

Ray T.

gator36

The upon deployment of the airbag I had both hands on the wheel. when it hit my arms, I held on. It
Pulled muscles in my right arm and left scratches
up both arms from the bag. Who would have known.

jtlyons

I placed an order for a '02 Silverado crew cab 4x4 with the Duramax and 6 spd man. trans. on June 8, 2001. I still don't know the delivery date. The auto broke I placed the order with has been on the phone with his contact at chevy twice a week for the last two months, and no one seems to have a clue when it will be finished!

The order was "pulled" in the middle of October only because I kept the pressure on them. It was one of the first nine orders taken, then they passed over it for weeks.

If anyone knows how I can get a hold of someone at GM or the factory, please let me know!

Thanks in advance!

rayt2

Did the auto broker actually have an allotment to get the truck ?? Do you have a TPW on it ? No allotment= No truck. No TPW= no way to track it. Go to the GM website and get the Customer Assistance # and Call Them. You stated,"The auto broke I placed the order with has been on the phone with his contact at chevy twice a week for the last two months, and no one seems to have a clue when it will be finished!" If you don't have the Target Production Week (TPW) how could the truck have started to be built ?? Someone is pulling your legs off and I'll bet it's your broker !

Ray T.

mgdvhman

with todays cost of parts.....I think just a shopping cart incident would be $500 minimum!

haha

Eat lots of turkey and drink lots of Porter...

Enjoy

- Tim

rayt2

it doesn't take much anymore to cause mucho dollar damage!
Enjoy your Porter's and have a Happy Thanksgiving ! I for one will be hitting the Captain Morgan's tonight!

Ray T. :-)

erikheiker

Most of us remember when the standard driving position was hands at 10 and 2 o'clock. However, with the introduction of airbags, the new standard is 8 and 4 o'clock. This prevents injury to the hands and arms during deployment, since the bag is going upward. If you look at your steering wheel you'll notice the spokes are positioned perfectly just for that reason. Since I never had driver ed I didn't know any better, so I drive using one hand at 6 o'clock. Works for me.

minikin

If the only real question is which one is better for pulling heavy loads, the answer is clearly the 8100 Allison.
-- Don

jnj91

Thanks minikin.

Would the 3.73 rear axle be ok to pull heavy loads, or should you only consider the 4.10?

Julie

minikin

With that much motor (8100) the 3:73 is fine. Basic axle strength is the same with either; ratio is just a matter of torque multiplication. And the Alli trans is built for heavy duty work.
The 6.0L doesn't have near the HP/torque, and the low gear ratio on the transmission is actually rather high. End result, if you routinely tow and have to settle for the 6.0 you really should use the 4:10 ;IMHO
-- Don

hknoepfle

When you are asked by the state patrol or your insurance company what happened - Tell them the deer hit or ran into you! If you say you hit the deer, they may give you the defensive driving thing and may imply it was your fault. Really, officer, the damn deer ran right into my car!!

OK, now a truck question. Was coming home the other day with my 2k 2500 2wd, 6.0 and it started shifting or banging into overdrive. The shift was so hard it shook the truck. I have heard from you quys that they can re-program the transmission. Sounds like the dealer needs to put a test device on tranny and tell me whats wrong. Will let you know what they find.

obyone

Go to this site and enter your VIN. It will tell you what update are available for programming.

http://vci.ecomm.gm.com/vci/