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I would almost bet that it is a Rev-limiter and there to safegaurd your motor. As far as the rattling goes - well that's the 2.2 for ya. It rattles like a diesel. That's just the way they all sound.
The S-10 pickup is a fairly solid truck. If you are looking at buying one make sure it has the 4.3 motor. the 2.2 is a piece of junk good only for Cavilier it was made for as it is junk too. The 4l60E Auto tranny they put in them is a fairly stout transmission. It is basically the same that is put in the full size trucks and the auto Camaros and Firebirds and even the Corvette is a varient of the 4l60E. So it is touch enough to do duty. I wouldn't be too shy about 40K but check to make sure all the fluids have been changed - inlcuding diff and tranny. Immediately change the coolant unless it was also recently changed. The Dex-Cool is a nightmare. I just had my radiator retanked (80k)(may have been coolant related). The third door is notorious for busting the latch and the seat levers also strip out fairly easily. My latch has broken twice, but my seat levers are fine. Others have also noted that the 4.3 will leak oil from the oil cooler lines around 70K but I have yet to see that on mine. I also know that the 4x4 is notorious for having bad ball joints. Since mine is 2wd I don't have that problem. The 4x4 also has a problem with the oil filter connection under the front bumper - every one that I ever serviced on the oil change line leaked.
Other than those minor things, you really can't go wrong with an S-10. But I would really recomend that the motor be the 4.3 and also be Ex-cab as it gives more room without getting too big. Standard or Auto tranny is your preference - both trannys used were pretty stout... hopes this helps. A
I had 245/60 16s on my truck when I swapped out the regular 205/75 15s tire and wheel and didnt change the speedo, but I racked up the miles as it said I was going faster than I was. I solved that by going to a 255/55 16 which is the same hieght as factory 205/75 15. the tire fit nicely under the truck and make it look realy sporty as well.
So anyway, check the connections first and make sure they are all clean - replace any cables too corroded. While you are cleaning the cables, have the battery charging or take it to the local auto parts store to have it charged and or tested (most can do this for you and may or may not charge you - most won't). This way you can verify that all the cables are good, and then try again. If no go, make sure the battery is indeed good - if you had it charged at the auto parts store they should have been able to tell if it was a good battery (also making sure the water levels are good too). If battery is bad, replace it. Then if there is a no go, then you might have a starter/soleniod problem. Only then would I pull the starter out to have it tested. I know it sounds like a lot of work to go throug to have it diagnosed, but doing so might end up saving you a lot of money.
From reading your statement, I would tend to lead towards a bad battery, or cable connection somewhere. You make it sound like you have a manual transmission and tried to start it by popping the clutch. It sounds like the battery was so dead that there was not even enough juice to get going - you need to have some power (even the slightest is enough) even with a clutch start with these newer vehicles and the electronic spark and computers. I experienced this with my last manual S-10 when I left dome light on all night and I couldn't even get it to clutch start. It had to be jumped.
I am about to do the plugs, wires, cap and rotor and would like to know if what would be the best way to go... I have heard a lot hype about the Bosch Platinum 4-tip plugs or even Split-fire, but wondering if I would really see anything signifigant. Or if it would just be best to replace them with AC Delco Platinums. Also what wires should I use??
One more question - I have noticed that in the last couple air filter changes I have had to change them every 6K miles. I do a lot of extreme driving so that is not that unusual, but what has been different than before is that they are black when I have changed them and not the usual brown dirty. It's not oily black, but still it's black crud... what would cause this and is it something that needs to be replaced like a PCV valve that is causeing this? Or is it normal?
Anyway, I'll keep an eye on the ball joints. It could be related but the last S-10 I had I ended up replacing the entire front end at 70K from the tie-rods to the idler arm and pittman arm. I don't think I did the ball joints though.
I have replaced the control arm bushing however and when my mechanic did so, he told me everything else looked fine - but that was 20K ago and several rough dirt roads ago as well so I am cognisent of those going bad...
I think I'll try the Bosch 2 prong plug and see what it does... Can't be any worse than what I've got right?
I used to change oil for living at a Wal-mart and would curse everytime a poorly engineered vehicle would make its way through the line (Toyota was famous, also Ford. GM had a few as well, but for the most part fairly simple process - meaning you didn't have to remove half the skid plates "Toyota Tundra", or cram your arm next to a hot exhaust "Toyota V-6 Camry", or turn the front wheel partially "Ford Crown Vic".) You would think that someone could design a vehicle that you could change the oil on with out making a mess all over the engine compartment (Skid plates, front diffs, exhaust manifolds etc etc.) Anyway, this forum ain't about oil changing gripes - it just came out while I was thinking aloud
I hated hated Nissan trucks, Volkswagon Beetles, Toyota Tundra, Ford full size, Toyota Camry V6 (especially in the summer), Old Nissan Maximas with the 3.0 motor, Toyota Tacoma (especially 4 cyl 4x4), newer Toyota Celicas, Ford Vans, Chevy Cavaliers.... and there were more, but I'll stop there. (actually I should see if there is an oil change forum huh??? )
If you know the 3 digit (it might be 4 digit - I can't remember) code than you can enter it in. Your owners manual should tell you. I can't remember how to do it since I never locked mine and I removed the factory radio several years ago.
Check out tirerack.com as they will have lot's of variations of which you can try. You would also be able to call and talk directly to someone who would talk to you one on one about what you can do. Or take the truck down to your local Discount Tire or Big O Tires or similar store and they can physically show you what you would be looking at tire-wize.
So here is how I would gauge it - if your truck ends up sitting as tall as a ZR2 - go for the 31's. Most tire shops, if you are going to buy from them anyway wouldn't mind mounting a couple 31's and checking to see if they cleared fenders. If they don't clear, drop down to a 30x9.5 r 15. If they do clear you should be all set to go with the 31x10.5 r 15's. Just remember to adjust your speedo (either a gear change in the speedo cable, or a computer reset. Judging by the year, I'd say gear change in the cable), or else your speedo will read ALOT slower than you are actually going - your speedo will read 55MPH but you're going much faster. And cops don't by the "my speedo is off" argument very much anymore.
If you want to see pictures of a lifted S-10 check out Ebay and search the vehicle listings. I just looked and saw a couple ZR2 models listed. I think this is the closest you are going to get to what your truck may look like. I would caution though, I have seen a few lifted 2wd trucks and for some reason or another the front always seems to be higher than the rear. Every single 2wd lifted s-10 I have seen has this problem....
To replace the hood latch cable I would assume, as I have never done it, but that you disconnect it from inside the cab, thread it through the fire wall and disconnect it at the hood. I know several people who have taken the hood latch cable and redone it so that you reach under the bumper to pop it. On my last vehicle I had it just hanging inside under the dash and I used a pair of pliers to pop it. You can rig it in several ways, but if you want to do it "right", I am not too sure about that.... You know what assume means right? - I try not to assume anything because it makes an a** out of you and me... [non-permissible content removed]-u-me
I'm just throwing ideas out because I don't know what the codes all pertain to, but just using some logic by going what the code says...
If the air cleaner assembly is the main air intake, than a secondary could possibly be the vented gases that the PCV valve captures and routes back to be mixed with the fresh air coming throught the air cleaner assembly??
Check the motor oil you could have a bad head gasket and the antifreeze is being burned in the combustion chamber. See if there is water in the oil. I have also seen leaks in head gaskets slight enough that there will not be any mater in the oil, but it just goes out the tailpipe. Usually with white smoke, but I have seen it where you don't really see anything. This is not common, but I have seen it. Usually you will see white smoke out the tailpipe or water in the oil to indicate a blown head gasket.
Here is what my mechanic told me when I asked him about it because I noticed my "hum" had become noticably louder at times. I asked him what the signs were of a fuel pump going out. He told me that symptoms of a bad pump will generally exhibit themselves long before a pump will fail completely. Most noticeable are are a several cranks of the motor to start when the vehicle normally doesn't take that many. You might also notice surging while traveling at highway speeds as the failing pump struggles to keep the engine supplied with fuel A loss in power while trying to accelerate might be noticed, again as the engine demands more fuel and the failing pump cannot adjust to the instanty increased demand.
He also told me to pay attention to the whine and see if it is louder on an empty tank as compared to a full tank. When a tank is close to empty the pump starts to try and suck all the debris and junk that accumulate over time in the tank. There is a filter in the tank that can tend to get clogged and on an empty tank the pump has to work harder to pull gas through this clogged filter. The pump having to work harder creates more noise. Unfortunatly there is no way to change this "in-tank" filter except to drop the tank at the time of pump replacement.
In your particular case, I would assume that your pump is fine. However I would watch the gas levels be careful about running the tank to completely empty before filling up. I would recomend filling up between 1/2 and 1/4 or as soon as the low fuel light comes on. Also watch the quality of gas you put in. Low quality fuel can have as much harm on the pump and the tank by leaving unwanted deposits as it can being burned in the motor.
If the pump does go out, which I have seen on vehicles with less that the 49K you state, replacement is a fairly simple process. If you are a DIY and have basic hand tools, access to a jack and a friend, you should be able to do it in a couple of hours.
You can drop the tank, or you can remove the bed partially and go through the top, saving having to deal with a heavy tank of fuel. I would recomend the bed option. Remove the front two bolts completely and also the middle (I think there are bolts in the middle I just can't remember), then loosen but do not remove the back bolts. Detach the filler neck from the bed. Then lift the bed ever so carefully so you don't flex and tweak it. Prop the bed up with a couple of 2x4's to hold it up so you can access the pump from the top of the tank with out ever having to drop it, dissconnecting fuel lines, mess with an unstable jack etc, all while laying under the truck on your back and hoping you don't get gas all over yourself...
Since you are asking where the trans fluid fill cap is, I will assume and apologize if I make you feel silly if you already know, I will also explain how to check the transmission. Warm the vehicle up to operation temperature and drive around the block, or down to the store, or somewhere so get the trans fluid flowing through out the tranny. (If you need to check it because it might be out of fluid or it is not shifting right, or if uncertain about the condition of the tranny, then go to the next step with out driving the vehicle.)
Leave the vehicle running. If you have not just driven it around the block, than set the parking brake, hold your foot on the brake and slowly shift through all the forward gears and reverse and then back to park. Leave the motor running. Pull the trans dipstick out of the tube and wipe it off with a rag. Then re-insert it and pull it back out. The fluid should be a red color and clearish. It should not smell burnt, or look cloudy or look like it has particles in it. On the dipstick it is marked with cross-hatches to indicate it's level. One is a cold level and the other a hot level. If you have driven the vehicle around and warmed it up to a good operating temp, than go by the hot level. The fluid should be in the marked cross-hatch area marked hot. If not you will probably need to add some. If the vehicle was checked "cold" the fluid should be in the "cold" crosshatch area. If you need to add some, add it through the tube in which you just checked the fluid. Use a funnel and add a little bit a time - like 1/4 quart at a time. If the level is way below the crosshatch I recomend having it checked for leaks or other damage.
For a manual tranny you will have to crawl under the truck. Make sure the vehicle is NOT running. The check and fill of a manual tranny on this vehicle doesn't require it to be running. It also requires the use of an allen wrench. Not sure what size, but it's big. Like around 7/8's or so big. The plug is located on the passenger side (I think - it's been a long time since I have checked a manual tranny S-10) on the side of the tranny. Pull the plug out and if fluid flows out of the hole, plug it back up, the tranny is good. If it gushes out it may be a little overfull and wouldn't hurt to let a little out. If nothing comes out, take your finger, or a smaller allen key and stick it into the hole. An allen key is more accurate. Stick the top elbow end in and see if it comes out with fluid. If it does, than the tranny is also good. If not, it will need some you add it through the hole you just used to check it. If I remember correctly, the S-10 and Sonoma manual trannys used a GM specific synthetic fluid. Fairly expensive, but not difficult to obtain. If you can obtain some, I also suggest a small hand pump to get it into the tranny as it is not fun trying to get it into that hole directly from bottle. In fact it is nearly impossible. Add some to bring the level to good and you should be good to go.
As always, if in doubt, take it to a certified mechanic you trust. A lot of places will do an simple check which could include a tranny level check for free.
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But I can't shake or rattle the wheel. It seems fairly solid. It also is not a continuous knock as I spin the wheel around from point to point.
So my question is what might be causing this and also how do I remove the air bag from the wheel to get below to see if I can determine what is causing the knock. The vehicle is a 2001 Ex-cab 2wd S-10 with V6.
As a side note, I drive on ALOT of rough and rutted roads that for most vehicles would be murder on the suspension. So I am sure that these roads could possibly be a factor in this. And when I say rutted, I don't mean just regular washboards. Roads that most low slung front drive vehicles should never be on, and if the road ever gets wet, not even a 2wd truck would make it through (I know this from sad experience that a 2wd S-10 is unable to climb 60 degree mud/sand/clay road after a good rainstorm/snowstorm.... :sick:, especially if all you have to get a good run at it with is 10 yards of straight away of the same kind of road.....) Anyway, so my truck doesn't have it easy with the kind of abuse I put it through, but it has been an excellent vehicle thus far.
I basically did what you are doing in that I decided I was going to replace both calipers. I got the calipers, new pads and fluid and had them installed and wheels on the truck. I was trying to bleed the system but could not get pedal back no matter what I did. I tried everything I could find about bleeding brakes. Finally frustrated and thinking I had bad calipers, I drove with bad brakes to a brake shop where I was informed that I had the calipers on the wrong side and upside down. DOH
Anyway, that swapped them over bled the system and I left feeling a little foolish and a little poorer, but also with an better education. Although that still doesn't help you as I'm not really sure why you are having leaks??
Do you have the ZR2 package or just the standard 4x4 suspension? Also how much on road travel do you do and how much off-road travel do you do - i.e. hunting, camping, playing, etc?
I would recomend if you have the ZR2 Suspension and do a lot of off-roading the BFG All-Terrain. Excellant tire. A little pricey but you get a great tire. This tire is worht the money. I think the tire size you would need is a 31x10.5 r 15. If you have the standard 4x4 suspension, I believe yor tire size is P235/75r15. You can also get the BFG All-terrain in that size. You might have to get an LT235/75r15 which will make the truck ride a little rougher since it is a stiffer tire, but it will service well in the back country.
If you don't do a whole lot of off roading, but do some occasional I would recomend the Wal-mart Uniroyal Liberator. You can only get them at Wal-mart. The Uniroyal is inexpensive and a great wearing tire. It does pretty good in most moderate off road situations, it's not too aggressive and so it's got some decent road manners and it's durable. Another pro is if you are worried about the suspension tearing up the tires, they are relatively inexpensive so replacing them isn't a wallet buster.
If you are doing strictly on-road, the Michelin Cross Terrain is not a bad choice. It is pricey, but the only other option I know that would not be a bad choice would be the Good Year Tracker 2. Although in my opinion if you are going to go with the Tracker 2, I would go with the Liberator.
Since you mentioned the Cross Terrain, I am assuming (I hate assuming because when you assume you make an [non-permissible content removed] out of you and me "[non-permissible content removed]-u-me" ) that you don't do a whole lot of off-roading but I wanted to throw those options out there. I used to work at a Wal-mart tire center and had the best luck with the Liberators. Others also came in and bought Michelins, but for what they cost, I didn't see them have any greater benefit over the long haul than the lesser priced Liberators. I also had a few customers who put on several sets of Trackers as ran them as a thier tire of choice. They were highway travlers and they swore by that tire.
That's been my experience. I recomend the Wal-mart Liberator unless you do serious off-roading. I feel it is the best over all value.
Battery died yesterday at a Circle K 25 miles from home. I had gotten gas, started the truck and pulled into a parking space to free up the pump and went to in to get a soda. Came back a BAM! Battery is dead. No notice, no previous slow turning starter, no clicking, just dead. Not even enough juice to run the door chime.
So I ask everyone going into the store if they've got jumper cables. I was a fool and didn't have any on hand. Finally a I spotted a tow truck getting gas. I trotted over and he obliged and came over to give me a jump. Still nada. I could get it to click, but couldn't get it to turn over. A quick check of connections revealed tight and good contact between battery and cables. No corrosion. We let the battery charge for a bit. Still nothing. I said thank you to the tow truck and sent him on his way, although I still had a dead battery and I am still 25 miles from home.
I called my wife and explained the situation to her. She agreed to come to my rescue and bring tools so I could remove the battery and take it to Wal-mart so I could get it replaced under warranty. (As a side note, PLEASE educate your signigicant other as to what tools look like and their basic use. I have failed to do that and as a result spent 30 minutes on the phone trying to explain to my wife what a socket looked like, what a ratchet looked like and what an extension looked like. It was so frustrating when she couldn't find what I needed and she couldn't get the idea.)
Anyway, I finally got her on the road with what I hoped were the right tools. While I was waiting for her to arrive a good samaritan had a commglomerate of tools in his trunk and I was able to piece together the right ones to yank out the battery so in case my wife didn't bring the right ones I would be able to purchase the right ones while at Wal-mart.
My wife arrives and we head to the closest Wal-mart about 2 miles away. We get there and there is a big sign that says all batteries must be tested before warranty replacement. I'm cool with that confident my battery is beyond saving. They test it. They have a hard time getting the handheld machine they are using to even work. They finally get it to work. But the battery tests good! I'm flabbergasted. I start to walk out. My sensible wife tells me I should have them at least charge it and then re-test it. (I LOVE my wife.) I calm down a little. Check the water and realize it's low. We refill the water and have them charge it a little and it still tests good. I take it back to my truck, although still not confident with the battery. It is only 2 1/2 years old, but the sides are bulging a little and it does have signs of having leaked out of the vent caps. Not having any faith I plop the battery back in. Before doing that I clean all the terminals again with a wire brush and double check to make sure I don't have any corrosion. I reconnect the battery and.... what do ya know. Still dead as a door nail. I decided to try and jump it one more time. I pull jumper cables out of my wife's trunk (at least she has them ), and still no such luck.
At this point I am at my last straw. I still blame the battery, but knowing I could also possibly have a bad connection other than at the battery I don't totally discount the battery. But not wanting to tear my truck apart on Circle K's parking lot 25 miles from home, I call my insurance company and have the poor truck towed home. It didn't cost me anything and then I would be able to evaluate the situation in my driveway instead of a parking lot with a thousand spectators looking on at a desperate dad.
The next day after work and now that I am a little clearer headed and not so mad at the whole situation, I decide to see if I can solve my puzzle. Is it the battery, or is the connections between the battery and the vehicle? I decided the best way to do this was to pull the good battery out of my wife's Impala and if the truck fires up, than more than likely it is the battery. If not, than it's likely the cables. So I pull the battery from the Impala after making sure it would indeed work and the Impala's battery installed, the truck fired right up. Now just for kicks and giggles I decided to put my battery into the Impala to see how it reacted. The Impala wouldn't start. Not even with a jump. So my already confirmed bad battery conclusions are cemented. No guff from Wal-mart this time. They are going to replace the battery. It was less then 3 years old with a 3 year free replacement warranty. I even had the receipt to prove it was less than 3 years old, plus the date code on the top of the battery.
I still might have a slight connection problem with interally corroded cables, but when the battery wouldn't start either vehicle even with a jump and the battery from the Impala started both vehicles without a problem, than I'm banking on the battery actually being bad. But then why did the Wal-mart tester say it was good? Mystery to me. Oh well.
I take the battery back to Wal-mart, although a different one that is closer to my home and ask that they replace it. They didn't even blink. They looked at the battery, looked at me and asked if I had my reciept. I handed it over. They scanned the receipt, scanned the bad battery, went a got me a new battery made the exchange and sent me on my way. They didn't even test it the old battery. I took the new battery home and 5 minutes later it was installed and the truck starting like it had never even had a problem.
I will continue to watch it and see if it gives me problems and I could have some mildly corroded cables and I am just not able to visibly see the corrosion. So I will probably still replace the cables to be on the safe side, but the battery being bad was still not helping matters.
After all is said and done, I would like to blame Wal-mart as this whole experience could have been cut in half if they had just replaced the battery for me the first time. I could have taken the battery back to the Circle K and been on my way. But they were just trying to do what they felt they should do. So I really can't blame them for something that really wasn't preventable. Anyway, long story. Hope you made it through... If the hosts feels this is too long feel free to remove it Apologize for it being too long. I didn't realize it was so long until I read back through it... (although it did help me vent a little )
I am replacing cables as soon as I get enough time to dig down to the starter. I replaced a starter on an S-10 V6 a few years back and it was a pretty fun chore, and if I remember correctly getting to the battery cables was even more fun. But I think replacing the cables would probably be good preventative maintainence. The truck does have 100K on it and who knows who much corrosion may have seeped it's way down the cables from the previous battery?
If I replace them I can replace them with top mount connections instead of GM's side mount which I have never liked. The battery I have has dual capacity - the ability to have both top and side mount.....
When I took the battery to a 2nd Wal-mart after doing my own testing, they didn't even bother to test it. Maybe this was because they were so busy they didn't want to take the time, or they could tell by looking at it that it wouldn't test good I don't know. But I ened up with a new battery.
I actually would HIGHLY recomend Wal-mart batteries. I know we are going to have a difference of opinion in this but I might be able to see where you are coming from. Wal-mart get's its batteries from 2 major suppliers. Johnson Controls and Exide. Johnson Controls if I remember correctly also manufacture the Interstate brand of battery and and several others although off the top of my head I can't remember which ones. They also make the Optima line of batteries. It is one of the largest battery suppliers in the world. They are probably the best automotive battery in my opinion that you can get.
Exide on the other hand I have not been very fond of. Wal-marts in certain parts of the country are supplied by Exide and this battery I would recomend you stay away from. I have never had good experience with Exides. It just depends on what part of the country you live in. I have Johnson Controls battery, but that didn't stop me from getting another Johnson Controls battery.
Side Note Edit:
I just took a look at the Johnson Controls website and here are some of the brands they supply batteries for:
Motorcraft, Optima, Tru-Start, Honda, Mitsubishi, Maza, Eveready, Everstart, Die-hard, Kirkland Signature. I didn't see Interstate however so I may have been mistaken in saying that JCI supplies Interstate batteries.
oh - it's a 2001 Ex-cab 2wd. That's S-10 Since were in an S-10 forum I would hope that it being an S-10 would be safe assumption, but just in case.... Although the year is helpful