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So now the question is...do you want to be practical?!?
P.S. I'm only 33 and want to have a fun car! Pathy was nice but not exciting to say the least! My new FX35 is a very welcome change!
Good luck, and Happy shopping! ;-)
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In NE Ohio, the two local Infiniti dealers were NOT matching any prices, in fact they were very unaccomodating and actually said that (regarding my offers from other dealers) "when that deal doesn't work out, come back to us and we'll sell you a car!"
Maybe other dealers will match pricing, but certainly not the two Infiniti dealers where I am!
Well, I'd like to think that buying the FX is practical. And to some extent, buying the FX is financially and emotionally practical for me.
Financially Practical: It's cheaper for me to buy the FX than the MDX.
Emotionally practical: I save a lot of stress trying to haggle with Acura dealers versus no haggling with Infiniti dealers due to having NVPP benefits.
Based on my experience, it seems Infiniti dealers are more willing to work with you than Acura dealers.
So, I save money and stress -- quite practical, don't you think?
BTW, did you trade-in your Pathfinder? If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get for it?
I didn't trade my Pathfinder as it was leased so I can't help you there.
Also, since you can go through VPP, you can't lose!
March is the end of Infiniti's fiscal year and they are loading us all up with inventory so that it is out of theirs on 4-1. This happens every year and we are overstocked for a short period of time. Why do you think March is always their best month of the year?
If we take this individual's word for it, this is apparently the best time to buy an Infiniti.
IMO though, the practical usefulness of the MDX is better than the FX. But this practicality comes at a hefty price -- $1500 less in trade-in value, and with my deal, $1200 off MSRP or $2338 over invoice. And the incentive to this practicality are smug Acura dealerships.
The nagging noise from brake calibres is another story...
MSRP $52,740, so $3,240 off. This was bought in Van Nuys FWIW.
Ride is rough (my wife complains about it), but that's price you pay for the handling. Rear seat width is less than our Toyota Highlander, and more difficult to remove children and child seat due to intrusive rear wheel well. But the engine, transmission, and handling is awesome...i love it.
And movable 2nd row, much like the XC90's, would be ideal in the MDX. It gives more legroom to the 2nd row if 3rd row is not in use and vice versa.
I wanted her to hold out for the Touareg but she didn't want a "VW." We also drove the GX470, the XC90 and the RX300 (they're giving those away). My wife liked the looks and the sounds of the FX. We got $1500 off sticker. Knowing what the holdback is and the invoice - $41015, I wasn't thrilled with the deal.
Car should arrive in 90 days which works well. We'll buy this time v lease. I have to admit--it dopesn't look like anything else out there (except maybe the Murano).
The dealership where I bought it from, Orlando Infiniti, was quite pleasant to deal with and I had no problems or negative surprises while taking delivery. And they were willing to work with me to make the deal happen. I would say that it was the best vehicle delivery experience I have ever had. Those Infiniti dealerships do know customer service and professionalism.
I did not rack up a lot of miles yesterday since it was already late in the day. But on the slow drive home, I did notice that other cars did not want to pass me. I guess they were checking out the FX since I normally drive faster and vehicles flash on by. So for future buyers, beware of the attention that you're going to get.
I'll report back on anything unusual that I notice about the FX.
I have since received the survey and don't feel that i need to give all excellent ratings. I had a pretty bad experience at the dealership, seeing many scams thrown at me in a period of 5 1/2 hours. I was treated very unprofessionally and downright rudely at times.
Aren't there laws against this type of fraud?
I know it's just a survey, but it's still quite unethical at best.
If i give them a bad survey, will it come back to haunt me or should i just forget it?
please advise!!!
anyone with similar experiences?
The best thing you can do is take the survey back to the dealership and talk to them about how you feel you should fill it out (as compared to how they want you to fill it out.)
You'll get more positive attention than you can even imagine, and probably some free accessories for filling it out "the right way".
Those surveys are the tool used to measure the dealer's performance. They are VERY IMPORTANT to the dealer.
Negative surveys are like the plague to an import dealer, particularly Nissan and Infiniti name plates.
Good luck with however you decide to proceed.
My choice basically boiled down to who was able to get me the best deal and Infiniti came through. The FX was already below invoice due to VPP and the only ? was the trade-in. And they worked with me on my trade-in to make it a really attractive deal.
Acura was not pleasant to deal with -- minimal discounts on the MDX to start with and the trade-in was lousy. I even tried to accommodate them by having CarMax take the car but with the full sales tax on the MDX to be paid, it wasn't cost-beneficial to me. In addition, I would not have had the following features on the MDX Premium that the FX had:
- HID
- Side-curtain airbags
- Brake Assist
- Bose System with 6-CD Changer
- 10,000 more miles on warranty
- 18" wheels
Not to mention 20 more horsepower and 20 ft/lbs more of torque. And the FX is actually a Japanese vehicle made in Japan.
This is not to say that the MDX is a bad vehicle, it's actually exceptionally good. I just couldn't accept losing that much money/features if a similar, if not better option, was available. So, the FX was the logical and practical choice.
You kinda have the dealership/salesperson in a corner. The survey was explained to me by my salesperson, who was very pleasant to deal with. Anything other than 'Excellent' is no good. Two questions are key to them: 11 and 20 -- they want us to say 'Extremely Satisfied' (which I am). If you are not satisfied, let it be known to them. Like dklanecky mentioned, you might receive some pretty good perks.
vyacheslav_13 said that he had a bad experience at the dealership and didn't like the way that they did business...he should be honest on the survey so that there will be pressure from Infiniti for the dealership to change its ways. For a bad rating to come back to haunt you, they'd have to blacklist you in their computer system, and i find it hard to believe that would happen, but i don't know.
5 1/2 hours? That outrageous! That's also why i do all of my negotiating by phone. When i bought my FX35 from Harper Infiniti (Knoxville, TN) i wasn't inside the dealership for more than about 15 minutes because the dealing was all done via phone (i've bought my last 4 cars this way...2 Infinitis, 1 Toyota, 1 Ford). They had the FX35 gassed up and waiting for me at the front door when i arrived. I'll have no problem giving them "Excellents".
If the salesperson was downright rude to one and even dictated the method in which the survey was to be filled in, then I don't think they deserve the 'Excellent'.
However, dklanecky's advice is good if one wants to give the dealership a chance to correct their actions. That is, if one wants to give them that chance.
To fernandojso- "Anyone knows what's the price for Canada?"
I did a quick search and came across this archived discussion which you may find helpful: Canadian Car Buying. In particular read posts #3 and #31 for information on how to find Canadian pricing. Others here may have more to add on Infiniti FX35 pricing in Canada.
Good luck, and please keep us posted on your purchase. ;-)
Revka
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I came out of a 2001 RX300 (hand me down now to daughter for college car) which was extremely dependable and pleasant to drive but just not very much fun. I had been torn from wanting to go back to Audi (of all the cars I have owned my own personal favorite was my 1993 90CS Quattro Sport) but I also like the vision on freeways from SUV. The FX35 is an excellent compromise for me.
As to other matters:
There is an S4 in the household as well. You cannot compare that tiny (especially backseat) rocket to the FX 35 (better would be to compare S4 to G35 though this would be pretty unfair to the G35). More apt comparison is FX 35 to allroad which has better interior (other than cupholders, no one can beat Audi in this area) and is probably more capable off road but doesn't have the performance or "fun factor" of the FX35. I should also note that every Audi I have owned (and we loved everyone of them) came complete with its own gnome in the eletrical system at some point.
Salesperson apparently misinstalled cargo net on my car (vertical). Better configuration is flat attached to four posts.
Agree on the pressure from dealer to give highest rating on survey. It feels a little peculiar especially trying to compare the very good treatment from the Infiniti dealer with the absolute highest experience we got when we bought that Lexus.
The car itself has been a real blast so far. I wasn't sure about drawing attention from the unique look but all comments have been very positive.
Also I was quoted at $48,677 for FX45 with tech. package, rooof rails and mud guards. I requested price over Internet and then spoke with somebody from Infiniti dealership over the phone. This price was given with out any negotiations from my side. I am in NYC
1) When is the 2004 models going to be available?
2) What changes (if any) are they making?
3) Where did you hear/see this information? (include websites if possible)
Thanks in advance!
-NJ future owner-
On the other hand, she'll order a new RX330 to replace her RX300 sight unseen because the Nav is available with the regular suspension.
When one has large dogs in the back, and they usually stand up with their heads thru the windows, a stiff suspension is NOT the road to happiness.
Infiniti, WAKE UP and smell the coffee - offer the Nav system as an option with the regular suspension and not part of a $9k package.
Not all buyers for a $40k sale are Boy Racers no matter how cool the FX looks whipping around curves in the TV commercials.
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MSRP 38850
Cap Cost 36850
Acq fee 495
mf 36/48 .00210/.00200
RV 36/48 54/43
Down Payment = 0
First and security due plus ttl
I have a spreadsheet where you can plug and chug number if you want it just shoot me an e-mail
This should be an easilly attainable payment.