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bluemalibu0, nice color and equipment combo on your CTS. Not a bad price with 0 down and 15K annually either. I really like my LS, but when it is time to replace it in a few years, the CTS will be a top contender. Who knows, maybe even a V series:)
http://www.world-challenge.com/news/04press17.html
I notice that the used fuel reported by the car's computer readout is usually about one gallon less than what the gas pump says, so it's repoted MPG is probably off, too, but I haven't bothered to check lately.
I did really like the Lexus 430, but $60k is too rich for my blood.
Looks like I'll be unloading the wife's '93 Blazer for a Honda Pilot for now, and keeping the Impala till the redesigned one shows up.
--Robert
I think the practice hurts when the sharing is done to expedite bringing product to market or strictly for cost reasons. They usually wind up doing a poor job of integration in those circumstances.
They had one of those Bonnies at the San Francisco Auto Show. It was up on a pedestal and no one could get close to it. Hood was down (heck the engine bay might have empty). The doors were open and from what I could see the interior did look sharp. Not as busy as previous years.
Thinking about doing the sign and drive deal.
I was spoiled with the Intrigue's motor.
The 3.6L VVT V6 is noticeably stronger off the line than the Intrigue.
The lower 1st gear in the 5 speed auto helps and so does the 3.73 gearing vs the 3.29 in the Intrigue.
The SRX felt almost identical to the CTS I drove last Summer.
I was expecting it to feel sluggish but it defintely wasn't.
There is a constant flow of power with less peakiness than the shortstar. It doesn't have the big hit at 3500 rpms though.
It does have the wonderful cammy sound that the shortstar had but even more so.
I was really impressed with it.
We are trying to figure how to extricate myself from the Impala.
Will keep you guys updated.
Also CTSs are available for lease at $399 with 0 down, period!
http://www.gm.com/automotive/vehicle_shopping/currentoffers/signd- rive.html
You are driving a Lincoln so you can get an additional $1500 discount.(conquest cash)
I looked at the cap cost and I think a better deal can be negotiated than what GM is using in the $399 CTS example. They are effectively taking off about 2,XXX off the MSRP, which I think can be negotiated down further.
I am not too worried about leasing for 48 months because GM has offered early lease termination deals consistently since 2001.
The SRX that i am looking at is $469 a month but I think I can knock another $2500 off of that then add it back in to have them take the Impala off of my hands.
I did the early lease termination in June 2001.
If you buy another GM car through GMAC then it is a piece of cake.
I was going to buy out my GMAC lease and give them $2200 to take my Intrigue off of my hands,
but they told me this termination deal was coming and that I should wait.
I Had about 9 months left at the time and you pay them a percentage to get out of it.
I was way over my mileage and it would have been cheaper for me to pay them $2200 then than about $4000 later. Plus I would have had to buy new tires, etc.
I took the early lease termination. They give me $500 and I bought a Impala through GMAC.
To say I was very happy to get out from under the Intrigue lease was an understatement
Was REALLY surprised how well it moved.
I did notice that it had the slower steering of the '04 CTSs not the heavier/quicker steering of the '03s.
I much preferred the SRX to the CTS because I felt like I was gaining headroom and a lot more rear seat room.
However it is still a fairly narrow vehicle and think 3 adults in back would be sitting pretty close to each other.
I went by my dealer's other location today and they have a black base SRX V6.
So that may be mine soon.
My seat of the pants feeling is that if the
CTS does 0-60 in 6.7-6.8 secs then the SRX does it in 7.5secs or less, probably less.
It felt much stronger across the rev band and especially off idle than my Intrigue whose 0-60 time was 7.7-7.8 secs.
I also felt like I could accelerate and it would hold a gear without downshifting. If i wanted to pass somebody I could give it a little more and it would immediately drop a gear.
It also has the manual shift deal with +- gate that the CTS doesn't.
Can't see how anybody would need the V8 unless they got AWD. (extra weight)
For me, the SRX is the answer to my problem with CTS's lack of interior room.
The body color one was much cleaner looking and did not attract attention to itself.
I like it.
Anyway, I walked into the showroom and there was only one CTS in view. A lot of STS, an SRX, an XLR, and a bunch of Devilles. The CTS looked like a V, which surprised me, although I saw a V on the road in downtown DC last week.
It turned out to be a Lux Package, but had aftermarket appearance additions. The mesh grill was $895. The rest did nothing for me, so I don't remember the prices. It had a rear spoiler, larger chromed wheels, and chrome tips on the exhaust. The grill looked great, but it the rest was too bling-bling for me.
I didn't win the game. Decided not to test drive, since that would make my yearning too hard to resist. I'll come back after the 2005s come if there are any deals.
I looked at a few on the lot, but they all had solid interior colors, not body color bezel. I've never seen it in a picture or in person.
It was saying essentially Caddy is not yet on the map while all evidence indicates otherwise
Brian
And later regards exclusion of the prior year X-type Jag as being, "... in the company of bigger guns such as BMW's 330i and the Cadillac CTS."
... all implies they can't get a manual CTS for around $35K.
The vehicles they tested ran from $28,485 to $38,130. Can you get a CTS stick in that range?
At 35k, a 5M CTS would have been solid competition in this group. Acceleration a bit better than mid pack (despite the bigger size), more utility, better drivetrain and handling than most, better economy than most. Maybe a 3rd place finish if all you look at is performance? Once you consider usability & versatility, the only car to compare is the TL, and unfortunately with FWD the CTS would handily destroy it on the track.
(They've also dissed Ford in the past. In 1999, they had a $25k sport sedan shootout. My SVT Contour came in third, after the A4 and 3-series. Despite beating and sometimes killing those two cars in EVERY performance category. Their complaints? Small back seat (which was no smaller than the 3 series when you looked at their chart) and too much "growl" as they put it. "Not a shuttle to ballet class". Puh-leaze... these guys make a point of drooling over sultry sounding engines, but when Detroit puts one out, they are defamed for it, despite this being the SPORT sedan competition. And of course, the A and 3 were thousands more than the $23,4xx SVT.)
The lessee of the vehicle would be in an auto accident and if they a) carried no insurance or b) not enough insurance, the injured party could sue not only the driver but also the lessor as they were technically "owners" of the vehicles. Once the injured party found this out, well you can figure it out--it's live for free time at the expense of the deep pockets. These types of laws may exist in other states, but NY and RI have the most punitive versions. The laws themselves are pretty outmoded and have been modified or repealed in almost every other state--if it wasn't repealed, it was changed to prevent this kind of thing from becoming a problem.
I also know that most lease companies that have not yet stopped leasing in those states have added fees to their leases to provide a form of insurance against the inevitable lawsuit.
M
They are pretty popular.
I called a Cadillac dealer about 70 miles away and he told me I was upside down $4300 on my lexus and $5500 on my Impala.
My local Cadillac dealer says I am $2500 upside down on the Impala. A $3,000 difference!!!!
Guess who is going to get my business
Does anyone agree with that? That the 3.2 CTS is only an equal to a 10 year old BMW?
I still have not even had my license plate bezel moisture problem solved. The latest from the service advisor is "Cadillac says that some moisture inside the clear portion is acceptable".... I asked about the newer ones that are starting to show up on CTSs here now and the advisor said that Cadillac wouldn't even consider it as a replacement. I haven't really had the time to pursue the matter but will shortly as the weather gets warmer.
I guess they offer 19K and put it on the lot at 26K.