New Hyundai Azera Owners Experiences

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  • psu3psu3 Member Posts: 15
    Hi again everyone,

    Thanks for the guidance on what issues a new owner should search for. Have had the new car for a week now. Not a lot of miles due to a vacation from work during the Christmas week. I actually have difficulty recognizing when the car is running because it is so quiet.

    The only issue I've recognized is the black bar present when headlights are on. I sit up pretty high so the black bar often covers the top half of the windshield. It's quite disconcerting, especially when moving up and down in rolling hilly areas. Although vision is fairly bright, I find myself tilting my head to view ahead below the line as if visibility could be better.

    I've read where headlights are set for optimum visibility but this setting is not desirable at all. Will raising the headlights fix this? Will vision suffer at all if I change these? Is this something I should fix or let the dealer change the aim?

    BTW. Thanks for the heads-up on changing the auto climate control so the AC does not come on automatically.

    Again, any ideas to maximize fuel economy would be helpful. What would you all consider an average break-in period? I'm considering trying to establish a rough baseline MPG and possibly eventually consider a K & N air filter and synthetic oil, just to see if here could be a difference. My neighbor, an engineer swears that both improve MPG and reliability. Thanks again!

    Steve
  • snaglepussnaglepus Member Posts: 160
    Synthetic Oil . . Si

    K & N . . No
  • cdmuilecdmuile Member Posts: 152
    Not sure what you mean by the "black bar covering the top half of the windshield". If you mean the abrupt cutoff of the the headlight illumination the cutoff height can be adjusted from under the hood at the back of the headlight module. Check out this and other forums for complete details. Look under "headlight adjustment" or something similar. Fairly simple thing to do.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE:583
    Any particular reason that you do not approve of the K&N air filter?
  • hjc1hjc1 Member Posts: 183
    I have owned 3 K&N filters on different cars hoping to improve MPG....
    Never got it.
    The only advantage is long term savings BUT too messy cleaning the filter
    My Azera is only going to use standard filter
    More proof just GOOGLE for problems with K&N
  • jaymagicjaymagic Member Posts: 309
    This forum has discussed the KN issue previously with some on both sides. I don't thinks it is worth the effort or cost, as the Azera already has very good power for its intended use and my gas mileage continues to hover around 24 mpg in my everyday driving. I know my mileage figure seems high to many but, for any in the Denver area, I am happy to meet and show them the readout. I seldom reset it and yes I have checked it manually, and it's spot on.

    I continue to recommend setting the stock tires to 36 psi, as I think that has a bearing on both upping the mileage and offering a little more handling capability. I also have used the synth from the beginning.

    I would expect that most of the new sedans would benefit, at least somewhat, from upping the tire pressure over the mfg. specs and using synthetic oil. If we had access to some of the engine and chip computers available, or worked with a knowledgeable mechanic, I suspect virtually every car discussed in this forum could improve it performance. Although improved performance in one area, might create an off setting issue somewhere else. Sort of like my higher psi tires give better handling, but probably mean the ride is not quite as forgiving as stock over a minor road irregularity. Now the synthetic oil is just a winner. It just costs more as its downside.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    I wonder if the Azera would benefit any from a shortened cool air intake. I mean...if you follow the plumbing for the stock set up...it takes quite a few turns before it even gets to it's destination. A shortened one would allow air to flow in more directly...I would think.
  • jaymagicjaymagic Member Posts: 309
    I would think a short cool air intake would add a few ponies. The part I am thinking about adding is a strutbar between the two shock towers to stiffen up the suspension. Looks like it would run under $100 and be a very easy add on.
  • tonycdtonycd Member Posts: 223
    I really like the idea of the strut bar. Independent testers have commented on a lack of chassis rigidity as one of the Azera's few weaknesses, and that's exactly what a strut bar helps to address. There's no downside to it, and it's a cheap, easy addition. I'd go for it.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    That's funny...I've heard the opposite about chassis rigidity concerning the Azera, it's the suspension that takes a knock. I'm all for the strut tower bar!!! I wonder if they'll make one for the rear as well.
  • jaymagicjaymagic Member Posts: 309
    Have not seen any just rear suspension upgrades. Seoulful racing does have the front strut bar -- in BRIGHT red -- for $85. I have seen others up to about $200, but can't see as they would add that much over the one at Seoulful racing. Now the full coil over shock suspension package ........

    There are also bushing packages out there, but I am not trying to set up for a day at the track or two, just everyday driving.

    For owners of Azera's, my experience is that you have to look to the Korean aftermarket for now, if you are interested in after market parts for your Azzy's
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Yeah...I didn't think there would be one.

    I've seen the full coilover packages and the bushings too. Have you seen the other sites?
  • jaymagicjaymagic Member Posts: 309
    I have looked at a few. Saw the short cool air intake for $99 on sale down from $199.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    I wonder if it will be an improvement worth $99 since there's already a factory installed CAI.
  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    Re 595: 'since there's already a factory installed CAI'

    Good point. Last time I checked K & N didn't even have an Azera CAI.

    I had K & N on my previous 300M, expensive, but loved the sound. ;)
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    I mean...other than the look of the traditional CAI, I really wondering if it's worth sprining the $100 to get one and put it on. I don't think K&N will make a CAI for the Azera, but I know there's a couple out there for it.

    Personally, I love how the Azera is now...under regular driving, it's very quiet. When you are hard on the gas, the exhaust has a very nice throaty growl. I certainly don't want to change my exhaust to have that loud growl all the time.
  • helohelo Member Posts: 4
    I have a new 2007 Azera with about 3000 miles . Three times the engine has accelerated by itself when the engine is cold. The first time was backing out of the garage when the engine was cold, as I eased on the accelerator, the car accelerated, I put on the brake , then put the car in neutral, and the engine accelerated to redline before I shut the engine off. Today it happened when in drive , the engine accelerated when putting the brake on, and I immediately switched off the engine to stop the acceleration. The dealer has found no computer errors and is checking for a cause. The idle RPM is about 900 until the engine warms, up which I think is normal.
    Has anyone had this experience?? I would appreciate any help finding a fix.
  • msazzyindcmsazzyindc Member Posts: 118
    I have not had this problem. I would suggest getting a second opinion
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Your problem is seemingly unique at this point. I haven't heard of, nor experienced the problem you describe. I certainly hope a resolution can be found and that you will be happy with your Azera. Good luck!!
  • bri76bri76 Member Posts: 14
    This may seem like an odd question but I faintly recalled the moonroof in my 06 Azera would stop closing if I would put a fair amount of force against it. Out of curiousity today I tried to stop the moonroof from closing. I could not. I would have had my hand broken if I did not remove it at the last moment.

    Before I complain to the dealer I wanted to make sure I was correct in my recollection that the moonroof has this safety feature to prevent serious injury (or worse). I know the front driver and passenger windows will retract if force is applied.

    Thanks in advance.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    To be honest, I really don't know. It wasn't a feature that was shown to me by the salesman. I know the side windows have that feature, but the moon roof???

    You almost have to question the person that would put their hands or arms up through the open moon roof while it was closing to begin with.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 602
    How about children?
    1 push window and sunroof controllers should all be equipped with safety sensors to reverse automatically when detecting specified resistance
  • hjc1hjc1 Member Posts: 183
    RE:602 & 603

    Children should be in the back seat........
    Since you have to push & hold the switch to close the sun roof I would think you would see and be able to release the switch to stop the closing...unless your blind and can't see the kid sticking his hand in the opening :=)
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 604
    I agree that children should be in the back seat and seat belted in.
    But in the real world, sometimes things do not go the way they are planned and terrible tragedies occur.
    I assume that you do not have children or grandchildren.
    I believe that the sunroof on the Azera closes with one touch of the button, and holding it in is not required, as is the case with many manufacturers.
    Seatbelts and airbags are supplied for incidents that are unplanned and unexpected but occur on an all too frequent basis.
  • pinktiffanypinktiffany Member Posts: 5
    I have a Platinum Edition 07 Sonata. My car full throttled yesterday when my daughter and I were returning home. I, too had to put it into neutral and turn the engine off. I contacted roadside assistance and my car is at the dealership right now. The service manager told me this morning that they've been unable to duplicate my issue. Please let me know if your issue has been resolved and by what means. Thanks.
  • bri76bri76 Member Posts: 14
    Thank you for your response. In fact, my concern about my moonroof is solely due to the fact that I have a son, not yet three, that is very curious and has a habit of playing with the car windows and moonroof controls. Yes, normally he would be in the back but when we are sitting in the car for an extended period of time; remaining in his car seat is not reasonable. The controls for the moonroof can be reached from the back if a child leaned over the armrest. The moonroof can be opened and closed with one touch without holding the button.

    Of course, for any accident to occur, I or my wife would have to be distracted or alseep. Still, accidents happen and it would be nice to know that the safety feature is there to prevent a tragedy.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    I have children, 3 to be exact. My rule of thumb...don't leave the keys in the car when they are sitting in there by themselves. Children left to their own imaginations and devices...well, you were a kid once, right? ;)
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 608
    I still am!
    It is amazing what kids can do to get into trouble.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Bob...the sentiment is shared! :D
  • hjc1hjc1 Member Posts: 183
    Wrap the little buggers in bubble wrap...... :=)
    How did we survive childhood ??????
  • 54gradsteds54gradsteds Member Posts: 102
    I survived childhood because my Dad's '39 Plymouth didn't HAVE a moonroof !
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Do you really believe that lack of a moonroof attributed to your survival of childhood???
  • richliebrichlieb Member Posts: 6
    I own a 2007 Azera Limited. First Let me say I Love this car ... however !!!

    This is scary: 2 mths ago I was on an Interstate in NH and floored the accelerator "kicked-down) to pass... The car accelerated and would not stop acelerating until I shifted to neutral...Then it went back to normal RPM... I thought my winter floor mat got stuck...moved it and all appeared fine..
    Then yesterday it happened again... however this time it was on a curvey road in VT with a 45mph speed limit... at 70mph.. shifted to neutral and applied breaks as a big curve was approaching.. This time i KNOW it was not the floor mat ...

    I will be bringing into the dealer Monday... with a letter indicating there is a problem.. So should I get plastered there is documentation of an issue.
    Does anyone know if this vehicle is electronic control of acelerator or old fashioned linkage ??

    Thanks
    Rich
  • richliebrichlieb Member Posts: 6
    I own a 2007 Azera Limitedwith 14,000.
    First Let me say I Love this car ... however !!!

    This is scary: 2 mths ago I was on an Interstate in NH and floored the accelerator "kicked-down) to pass... The car accelerated and would not stop acelerating until I shifted to neutral...Then it went back to normal RPM... I thought my winter floor mat got stuck...moved it and all appeared fine..
    Then yesterday it happened again... however this time it was on a curvey road in VT with a 45mph speed limit... at 70mph.. shifted to neutral and applied breaks as a big curve was approaching.. This time i KNOW it was not the floor mat ...

    I will be bringing into the dealer Monday... with a letter indicating there is a problem.. So should I get plastered there is documentation of an issue.
    Does anyone know if this vehicle is electronic control of acelerator or old fashioned linkage ??

    Thanks
    Rich
  • cobrazeracobrazera Member Posts: 352
    I believe the Azera is " fly by wire " throttle control, so there could be a problem with the computer - good luck with getting them to duplicate your problem.
    Be advised, too, that the engine does not have enough power to overpower the brakes, so rather than shifting to neutral, apply the brakes, you'll get slowed down a lot quicker and safer.
  • rgb42rgb42 Member Posts: 40
    Looking at a new '08 Azera Limited and not sure about the moonroof/sunroof on the vehicle. Question ... can it be opened up to a certain position (i.e. half way back) or is it either open or closed? Thanks.

    Bob

    PS I just placed another post on the board abt feeling somewhat 'jittery' abt purchasing one ... wondering if it will/can live up to my '04 Maxima which has been great.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    The '08 shouldn't be any different than the previous model years. You can open the moonroof at any position you wish, just hit the button again when you want it to stop.

    Best thing to do...go tell the dealer you want to be sure of your choice and ask for an extended test drive. Spend some time with the car and put it through its paces and see if it feels like the car you want to replace your Maxima with. When you're done...post your findings and let us know what you thought of it.
  • snaglepussnaglepus Member Posts: 160
    :(

    Got a re-occuring problem:

    This has happened twice before. The check engine light comes on (blinking)
    and then settles down to a steady light while still running.
    The next day while driving, the light goes out.
    This has happened twice before. No driving problems both times.

    Saturday evening while cruising with the CC on at exactly 60 mph, the
    car starts to feel like it is driving on really rough washboard
    type pavement, but it is not as the pavement is smooth.
    The CEL comes on (flashing) and I discover a slight loss in power.
    It is missing, having lost at least one cylinder.
    Drove it on to my destination. No fun at stop lights as you think it will stop all together.
    Shut it off and then immediately started it up again, and now it
    is purring like a happy Korean Cat, but it still has the CEL.
    The light is now steady on, not flashing. Next day Sunday, the CEL is no longer lit.

    Sometimes since, it has done that "rough-pavement" shaking deal again, but no light this time.
    Seems to happen only when using the cruise control and at a relatively
    slow speed of only 60 mph which is less than 2000 RPM.
    Feels like it is not hitting on all holes when this happens.

    Any suggestions anyone?

    Will there be a stored code that the dealer will be able to detect?

    Anyone else had this problem or hear about this happening?

    Car has only 10,400 miles. Car was new in August 2007.

    Thanks for any suggestions. I'm off to the dealer. Wish me luck!
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    It's starting to sound like you could have some moisture in your fuel.

    I'm sure if it's an engine problem, the dealer will be able to detect it. However, the C.E.L. is known to come on due to a plethora of reasons (even if the gas cap isn't tightened down correctly).

    Definitely...take it to the dealer and have them check it out.

    I hope they find out what's wrong and get you back on the road with a smile.
  • jlindhjlindh Member Posts: 282
    You can buy a code reader at most any auto parts store for $25 or so. They're just a "plug it in and read the code" type of thing. If nothing else, it might prevent the dealer service department from trying to blow smoke you know where.
  • snaglepussnaglepus Member Posts: 160
    :)

    Don't reckon that there will be any problems as the
    service writer said that there will be a code set.
    The shuttle guy drove me home as the dealership is short-handed today account
    of some supposedly "Irish" types taking off because of the holiday.

    Supposed to be fixed and ready this afternoon. ;)

    We shall see . .

    :D
  • 101649101649 Member Posts: 192
    Might be crankshaft position sensor.or bad plug wire..Get it to the dealer....They can hook it up and tell exactly what's going on....
  • snaglepussnaglepus Member Posts: 160
    :)

    The dealer called and told me to come get the car and that they had to order the
    part which will take a couple of days depending on where the part is located.

    They found and cleared the computer stored code (misfire) and the problem which they
    said was caused by a "weak" oxygen sensor. I was told that driving it while waiting
    for the part will cause no problems, and I know this is true because this
    C E L has come and gone three times over the last two months.
    The last time it happened was the worst however, as the car stayed running on five or less
    cylinders for approximately forty miles until I reached my destination and turned it off.
    When restarted immediately, it was running on all six cylinders again . . What a difference!
    Should this happen to you, shut it down right away and restart
    and don't drive it while it is running on less than all six!

    The service writer allowed that I was lucky that mine had not gone
    into "limp" mode which he said limits you to only 40 mph? :confuse:

    So I'm driving it again while waiting for their call,
    and it seems to be running better than ever.

    I'll report further when I get more information. Stay tuned . . ;)

    :D
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Thanks for the update, it's good to hear that you're being taken care of and all seems like it will end well.
  • dfenn1dfenn1 Member Posts: 7
    Had the exact same problem. Had to take car to another dealer other than the one I bought it from to find problem. It was an O2 sensor. But my check engine light just started coming on, after 3 months of being OK. Its going back to dealer next wednesday.
  • snaglepussnaglepus Member Posts: 160
    Taken care of? Not really! :(

    The part came in Thursday but I had to call in and find out that it was in.
    They didn't bother to call me. Of course, I wanted to take the car in immediately to get
    the new sensor installed, but no. "There are no appointments available 'til Monday."
    MONDAY sez I. You must be kidding? :mad:

    Wouldn't you think that the dealership would schedule an appointment earlier
    than that when they knew the part would be available on Thursday? :confuse:

    When I asked why such a common part is not stocked all the time at the dealership level,
    I got:
    "There are more than 100 different oxygen sensors for the different Hyundai models."

    I don't believe that. Do you?

    I'm seriously considering going to another dealer, or simply continuing to drive
    it the way that it is, as this stupid place told me that to do so was fine.
    They also said that I was lucky that it did not go in limp mode, as
    the top speed when that happens is only 40 mph. Yeah, right!

    Fine car, but lousy service.

    :(
  • wobbly_earswobbly_ears Member Posts: 160
    Well, in a way, the service tech person was correct in the information he provided to you.

    The O2 sensors seldom go out in newer cars. Also, it is quite true that there are a large no. of O2 sensors for Hyundais (although I don't think it is not 100s, as your tech said). So, it is quite plausible that they didn't have the sensor

    Yes, the Azera, like all modern luxury cars, can function in the 'limp home' mode where the top speed is restricted to 40mph. It can jump to 'Limp Home' mode when a variety of conditions happen. For ex., when someone tries to steal your car, it would go into this mode & prevent the theif from stealing your car. When this happens, when the owner returns with his legitimate key, inputs the 'secret code' which he has specified, then the car would start, alebit at a lower top speed so that he can drive it to the dealer to get the code reset.

    It is always a good idea that anytime you see a Check Engine light, take it to the dealer ASAP & not wait. All these modern cars have sensors & intelligent computers that are designed to warn the drivers when any component falls below a specified threshold. It could be as simple as a loose gas cap to a major engine component failure.

    The lesson is to NEVER to disregard a Check Engine light.

    I really hope your dealer takes care of your Azzy. It is a good & well engineered car & frankly, has been very very dependable. Good luck buddy!
  • oskidunker1oskidunker1 Member Posts: 213
    I was pulling into my driveway a few days ago and applied the beakes and the car seemed to accelerate so I shifted into neutral.Has not done it since. My wife claims I shifted into neutral and thats why the engine surged. Could be maybe I screwed up, but I don't think so. 2007 Azera Ultimate.
  • richliebrichlieb Member Posts: 6
    Well... It appears I should apologize to Hyundai... and I will.

    It turns out it was the Winter floormat.. but found it after 4 events the same day and after the dealer went thru the car with a fine tooth comb...

    I purchased Weathertech Winter Mat's... Nice and Heavy Rubber Mat's..
    Turns out that the Azera's accelerator peddle is canterlevered and the bottom of the peddle comes within maybe 3/8" to the floor under Hard acceleration..
    Well if the Mat moves just a little... The peddle rides over the edge of the Mat and can't return !! It stays floored !!
    Hyundai may want to think about slightly more clearence... However I will be modifiying the Mat this weekend to use the Normal Mat anchors ..

    Thanks for the comments and feedback..

    Rich
  • ecdusitecdusit Member Posts: 1
    I had a simular occurence this winter, reminiscent of my 1990 Volvo that had a rare sticking throttle in cold weather. As you did, I second guessed the incident as a floormat since it was at night, so I couldn't SEE what happened down there, and expected that my frantic scampering of feet to pedals cleared the problem.
    Well, it happened again yesterday. I accelerated briskly to merge with traffic. I let off the pedal but it felt as if it stayed down. The car kept "blasting off." In the haste of my approach to a red traffic light, I danced around on the pedals and geared to neutral.
    This is a major and dangerous issue I hope nobody else has to experience. I remember years ago that Volvo had a recall on cars doing this. I vaguely recollect what incident prompted the recall but I think an accident was on the news due to a Volvo flying across a parking lot due to a stuck gas pedal.
    I'll be going in to have the car checked this weekend.
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