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W rated tires are more than enough for the TL.
I hope they last you a while... they're not cheap.
Which, with all due respect, is a horrific waste of money for tires on a FWD sedan with over 60% of the weight over the front wheels. I'm not a 3-series owner taking cheap shots at Acura. I own a 2004 TL 6-speed, which came with a suspension that is actually firmer (and flatter) than the 2007 TL-S automatic. I got 18,000 miles out of the original HPT tires. Switched to a Tire Rack recommended Tire (AvonTech) that is absolutely indistinguishable in handling at any speed, for a total cost of around $650 ($160 each) for a set of 4 balanced and mounted. That's still a lot of money for a FWD sedan that handles better than, but not monumentally so, my old FWD 2005 Nissan Maxima SE with $100 "H" series tires that lasted 50,000 miles a set.
Again, let's be realistic. The TL or TL-S is a very nice sport-y entry level luxury sedan with a lot of excellent attributes. But it is NOT a serious sports sedan and some, including me, would question the wisdom of Acura putting even more horsepower in a FWD platform. Putting $300 tires on a TL-S isn't going to turn it into a BMW 335i. But hey, it's great for the tire industry that some people think otherwise.
On a 6-7 year old car the difference in value of a car with premium wheels and one with stock wheels is no more than $100 - not per wheel - but total. It looks like you are trying to buy a car from a jerk - run while you can!
* BF Goodrich Traction TA
* Sumitomo HTR+
* Sumitomo HTR Z II
* Potenza REO50A Pole Position
I am finding these run $100 or less per tire, which would be perfect for what I want to spend. Does anyone have any feedback on these (or similar) tires? I am in Ohio so I will need something that can handle one more winter as well as provide decent handling in good weather and good performance in the rain.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Keith
Its worth checking this out before you buy new tires.
Any thoughts or experience out there? Thanks
So far I am very pleased with their performance. They are very smooth and quiet riding, which is a very nice change from the Fuzions that I had on there before. (When the OEMs wore out I replaced them with the Fuzions at the suggestion of my father in law who was in the tire business. They were OK, but I was never crazy about them.)
So far I am very happy. Also, these are year-round tires which should serve me well here in Ohio and our winters. I have one more winter to get through on my lease, so I wanted something that handled bad weather better than the old tires.
So there is the solution I came up with and so far they seem to be working very well.
A company like Honda should not be putting defective tires on my car. Further delivering an expensive car that's not aligned properly from the factory is a serious quality control issue. Not informing me that these things are defective is negligence.
If someone could read my criteria below and give me some bottom-line guidance, I'd be much obliged.
(a) I have an '04 TL and live in CT. My annual mileage is low, so I'm not overly concerned with tire-longevity.
(b) I'm not a very aggressive driver but I'm not a bargain-shopper either. Said another way, I want to get the most from my driving experience while remaining extremely safety-conscious.
(c) My goal is to get the best possible all-weather traction and handling without sacrificing too much in the other categories.
What class of tire do I belong in? Which brands do you like for that class?
Thanks in advance
Ken
For me, I like the solid feeling of driving the TL with snows. it makes the car feel more secure on the road than our AWD Pilot. I will use the P Zeros up until December 1 here in Boston and switch over April 1 when the snow is softer and less likely to freeze solid.
What would lead you to choose the Neros over TireRack's top-rated all-season Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position?
How many miles do you have on the P-Zeros and how would you rate with regard to noise (any yet) and comfort compared to OEM? Did you consider Pilot Sport or Turanza LS-Z? Thanks.
Have an 04 TL with 80K and original Turanza EL42 (use Dunlop snows in winter).
The EL42's have decent handling and are still quiet and relatively comfortable over all the miles. Seems like its been a "good compromise" type tire for all seasons. Having snow tires, I can go to a better handling summer tire for better handling and turn-in but do not want to put up with noise after 10k or so miles nor buckboard ride.
Have Pirelli directional snows for another vehicle and they are very good. Have had other Pirellis over the years and they were all very good "except" P6000 that I tried in 2002 on a Maxima SE. Had trouble with pulling in one or another direction. Tire dealer replaced 2 tires and could not get rid of various pulling and moved tires around to different corners of car. Maxima had recent 4-wheel alignment and was perfect mechanically. Dealer finally gave up, pulled off the Pirellis and refunded my money and I bought another brand from him which were perfect.
I own a 2005 TL with ~19,000 miles. Recently I was driving down a dirt road (had no choice, son was invited to a b-day party in the country and my wife's minivan was already in use) and I was squeezed between an oncoming truck on one side, and a corn field on the other...and hit an amazingly large pothole. In fact I'm wondering if an asteroid hit earth in this spot - it was that big! Anyway, as soon as I hit pavement I knew something was wrong. My local tire guys confirmed that the rim was damaged (gotta love those soft rims!). They found me a refurbished rim for $200, then rebalanced and rotated all the tires. It again rides like a dream.
But they also told me I should replace the tires this fall, and I've noticed that the tread is looking weak. While I'm not crazy about replacing tires at ~20,000 - 25,000 miles (I'm used to ~50k miles on OEM's) I knew this was a sporty car...and I absolutely LOVE it. Based on what I've read it sounds like I should be asking my tire shop to check into these three tires:
- Michelin Pilot Sport AS
- Pirelli P Zero Neros
- Kumho ASX
I also noticed that many of you thought it made sense to go with 245/45 tires to avoid scraping the rims when parking near curbs (this NEVER happens to me
I'd mainly like to improve the "comfort" of the ride going forward. The current tires are a little too firm for me. I'd like to pretend I drive this thing hard, but the reality is that my fear of getting an excessive speeding ticket means I sometimes "gun it" on starts to give me or the kids a little exciement, but that's about as wild as I get.
If anyone has anything else to add, please do. Otherwise I'll be shopping this fall.
Thanks, Rob
Sorry about that asteroid thing. Probably created by an alien landing. If you can find 'em, maybe they'll reimburse you? Or, being that this is the good 'ol US of A, you could sue...
Have you visited tirerack.com? Much information... Conti ExtremeContacts also highly rated, especially for snow performance, if that's germane...
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
I put a set of these on a ruff riding Mazda3 and the ride is now smooth - I am sure I gave up some handling - at the limit - but the car still handles fine.
Did you have Turanza EL42 tires? I noticed that they are still putting these on 2007 TLs. I have these on my 04 TL. What were the results in court, the judgements?
How I'm going to collect, I've got to figure out. I'm waiting for the NY Sheriff's office to contact me.
To the initial poster who noticed a 2 PSI diff - keep track of that tire. Maybe it's got a slow leak in it - try manually checking the pressure every once in awhile to make sure your TPMS is accurate.
Not thinking a alignment problem due to both right and left rear are wearing poorly. I hate to buy another Michelin; also I don't want to mix brands. Going to approach tire dealer and car dealer next week.
Any suggestions appreciated? Thanks in advance
OEM tires: Bridgestone Turanzas
Replacement tires: Pirelli P6 'happy!'
I too was plagued from the get go with vibration and bent rims, which was never resolved with multiple dealer visits. I suffer through not willing to spend to replace the rims as suggested by the dealer.
Needless to say I was extremely disappointed with the handling of the car, front end vibration, nervous handling, unstable at speed, etc. I recently replaced the OEM tires with Pirelli P6's, and low and behold I drove out from my tire dealer with a completely different car. My TL is now a proper sport sedan, smooth, stable and extremely confident at speed. I just slogged through the recent Nor'easter driving from MA to NJ in record downpours and it was smooth confident motoring.
Torque Steer is something that is experience while the car is under heavy acceleration.
Cruising at highway speed, this should not be the cause.
I've had cars that pull to one side or the other, due to the crown in the road, but if it's pulling to the right, no matter what lane he's in, then there's another cause.
Most likely, and alignment or suspension issue that only appears while the car is at a higher speed.
You don't have to be anal about this, but you should never let the pressure fall below the placard value and no more then 5 psi above the placard - COLD. A 10F change in ambient temperature results in about a 1 psi movement in the same direction.
Does anybody have any experience/reviews of the tires they've purchased to replace the OEMS? The Turanzas stink in the snow, I'm looking to improve on that while seeking a relatively quiet tire with good ride and handling characteristics.
Thoughts?
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
I have been very happy with the Pirelli PZero Neros on my 04 TL (MT). They handle great and are quiter than than the Turanzas
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)