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I traded my 94 Trans Am 4 years ago
I sat in the GXP for the first time Wednesday evening and immediately remembered my Trans Am. 24 Hours later I said goodbye to my Bonny and have been lovin life since. For me this is exactly what I expected when I bought it. It is a FWD, 4-door Trans Am that I can actually drive in the snow.
It is still early, but so far the car handles great. I have been on plenty of ice over the last few days and this car handles it much better than my 01 SSEi. Based on the tread pattern, I am concerned about snow and slush even with all the comments about how the tires are engineered to handle the snow. I will let you all know as soon as I encounter the traditional snow and slush that we usually get all Winter long up here.
I spend much of my time driving all over the Northeast (NY, NJ, PA, & New England) so I expect to see all weather conditions soon. I picked up the car on Thursday night with 60 miles on it and after driving to NJ today, I now have only 390 total miles.
Gas mileage from Western NY to NJ was 24.5MPG according to the DIC with an average speed of 69.7MPH (I reset the DIC before I left the house). I usually put it on cruise at 73MPH, but traffic, construction, and aggression caused that to vary today. Top speed was only about 90 (only once or twice when avoiding the "big rig box in". IMO the 27MPG seems about right but the 17MPG Rating is way off. The only way I can imagine getting 17MPG off the highway would be to live someplace where you could leave it at 40MPH all the time (and who would want to do that???)
So far everything is nice and tight, but we will see what a few thousand miles does to it.
Torque Steer - What torque steer? Nothing more than I am used to in the SSEi.
Speaker Hiss - I have listened for it but can't hear it. I believe those that say it is there, I guess my ears are just not that sensitive.
- "Lovin every minute of it" because I knew what I wanted and then bought it VS buying it then thinking about what I really wanted.
...and chats1, i think that we all have gotten your point about the hissing either being worse in your car or bothering you more than most, so good luck resolving it (however you may choose), but it's not necessary to rehash it every time someone brings the subject up (any new info would still be appreciated though)
I got similar offer upping mine to $2000.
I'd like to replace the Wife's Volvo with a Vibe - but the Vibe isn't on the redemption list that came with this offer - Darn.
I investigated the possibility that because of onstar and telephone mic, they couldn't include the auto dimming feature. Not True!!! The top end Buicks have onstar AND auto-dimming mirror. Pontiac just decided not to include that feature on its highest priced car, much to my disappointment. i never expected that my 99 GTP would have been better equiped than my 2006, more expensive GXP. No wonder they are losing customers.
TjrGXP :mad:
One thing I did not realize until I started playing with it (since I see no place in the ’05 manual where it mentions this) is that the inside mirror can be adjusted up and down as well.
I now have mine up further than when delivered – leaving just enough space above to see through the top of the windshield, when required.
- Ray
In favor of large mirrors - and many adjustments . .
There’s a manual? Seriously, thanks Ray. It never occurred to me that the mirror’s mounting stalk might be double jointed. I moved it up and it’s much better.
I hope the rims are all the same, as I'd like to put the same size tires on all four corners when the tires on my '07 (yes, I'm planning ahead) wear out.
At least to me, an extra hundreth or two of a g on the skid pad isn't worth the trouble of not being able to rotate my tires nor to be able to put a set of better weather tires on all four corners.
WHEELS AND TIRES
Wheel size: F: 8.0 x 18 in, R: 7.0 x 18 in
Wheel type: forged aluminum
Tires: Bridgestone Potenza RE050A; F: P255/45R-18 99W, R: P225/50R-18 94W
From C+D test.
- Ray
Wishing you luck . . .
On my old 97 GTP, I used the 9" cone K&N but had it on a short intake which left it in the engine bay.
Would going all the way out through the fender wall make much of a difference since we do have front air dams and heat extractors which should keep the bay cooler than the old GTP's?
Some of us were worried back then about puddles splashing up on the filter when it's in the fender wall, and keeping it in the bay allowed us to hear the supercharger much better.
Thanks,
Brian
1) This car is more fun than I am allowed to have with my clothes on!
2) Performance and handling are great. Probably the fastest car I have ever owned.
3) The navigation leaves a bit to be desired. It can't find any particular streets in my development even though the development is 12 years old and it shows the streets on the map. (My $600 Garmin Street Pilot 2610 does a much better job!)
4) That said the navigation system showing the next turn on the HUD is awesome!
5) I don't think I have the stereo hum problem. (I couldn't hear it.)
6) It handles pretty good in the snow. (As long as I keep my foot out of the gas.)
7) My 12 year old son thinks it's the coolest car in the world...
Scott
Priceless.
How does your son find the backseat -- view/seat/legroom??
After we (just me and him)got back from taking him on first ride in it, my wife asked "Dad didn't drive fast did he?" Josh trying to protect me stated, "No Mom, Dad didn't go 90 on the entrance ramp..." Gee thanks son....
:surprise:
Thanks
17.4 mpg on last tank - mostly around town.
I drove a gxp this past weekend and we're ready to buy. My wife loves it. My only concern is the back seat. It's not the greatest, but we have a big truck for longer trips when the whole clan is riding (five of us). Course, the back seats are a hell of a lot more comfortable than the car my parents had growing up: it was a utility van, and I my 'seat' was the top of a wooden foot locker :surprise: Granted, I never thought of complaining...it was all exciting. Six people in an gmc work van...that had only two seat belts. Now there's safety! Course, my dad was careful, something I see in short supply now that everyone has 47 airbags in their car
I'd like to buy a Black 2007 GXP next Fall.
I'd like it to have the nav system.
Please include a spare tire and please make the front and rear rims and tires the same, so that I can rotate them front to rear. I promise to not complain about the minor performance degradation.
Also, please make sure that the stereo hum is fixed and that the HVAC works properly.
Thank you,
GXP lover
Cheers,
Bubbaman
I was at the dealer yesterday, had the VIN of the car I wanted, Stealth Gray loaded GXP. I had the supplier discount form. I had both my GM credit cards, a regular with $50 bucks, but topped off to $2000K and a gmextended card with ~$200 more. There was also an auto show $500 rebate. The dealer said I couldn't use the 2K top off with the supplier price? This sounds bogus, so if I would negotiate that price I could use it? Is there a price requirement before I can use the 2K top off? Still want the GXP but I want a decent deal.
Thanks,
Bubbaman
I was sort of excited when I got mine, because I was thinking an AWD Vibe might be a decent replacement for the wife's wagon, but it isn't included in the vehicle list.
With the new lower pricing, getting additional discounts from GM is getting tougher and tougher.
(I ended up paying $25600 w/other discounts on top of their employee discount price for my 2005 GXP w/MSRP of $33,395 in June 2005)
Went back to a new dealer with the Stealth Gray GXP on their lot, loaded, except Navigation system. Negotiated the price and was able to apply the 2K rebate and a local auto show rebate and got it for $26600. Had a decent trade and got the total down to $15Kish + TTL. In texas can reduce the price of tax via trades. So I get to pick it up tomorrow
Cheers,
Bubbaman
Enjoy!
- Ray
2005 GXP driver - at over 11,000 (mostly VERY happy) miles . . .
22 vs 27 mpg
mpg miles \ yr $ per gal
22 15000 $3.00 $2,045.45
27 15000 $3.00 $1,666.67
diff \ yr $378.79
One car payment?
I guess if these are close to accurate, I can't think of any economically reasonable way to address this issue . .
- Ray
Not really understanding the size of the issue ???
= = =
I mean no disrespect.
Really.
And I believe that ** SOMETHING ** has changed over the past few years with regard to the correlation ( or not ) between the EPA estimates and the real world gas mileage many people are seeing.
I too would typically be able to beat the EPA highway, on a reasonably long (and not too much over the posted speed limits) primarily highway run. Until my 2005 GXP.
And I have seen this ‘complaint’ on a number of Forums, including other Make \ Model threads here on Edmunds. The Infiniti M series comes immediately to mind. And the Caddy STS V8 1SF & 1SG.
The scenarios appears consistently to be something like this:
Had car X. EPA: Y \ Z ( city \ highway)
Typical city \ highway mileage = close to Y and sometimes higher than Z.
Buy (M35 or M45 or STS) or GXP. EPA: 18 \ 27.
Typical city \ highway mileage = less than 18 and never over 27.
// Speculation mode = on \\
My guess is that either the emissions standards have changed ( not that I know of ) in the past 2 or 3 years, or the typical Manufacturer’s emphasis has shifted – from good real world gas mileage to the absolute best possible EPA ratings for a given configuration.
Possibly to market the higher EPA numbers.
Possibly to meet CAFÉ requirements, with ever more HP & TQ.
And as we keep seeking additional equipment, vehicle weight creeps up.
Anyway – I am really not suggesting a conspiracy here.
But I believe that each manufacturer is working ever harder to post higher EPA numbers, as consumers faced with gasoline prices rising significantly. And the result has been that typical drivers – in as close to identical driving (same commute, same load, same amount of errand running as with the previous vehicle) do not achieve the same actual fuel mileage, relative to the EPA estimates, as in the previous vehicle.
I just believe that something has changed.
\\ Speculation mode = off //
- Ray
Never having achieved over 25 MPG in any tankfull even under close to ‘ideal’ real word conditions with the Grand Prix GXP, so far . . .
I'm the king of squeezing mpg out of a car. My 96 olds 88 with a 3.8 has gotten me 37 mpg during a hyper-mellow 150 mile round trip. I know if you baby a car like crazy it will get substantially better mpg. I ordered a GXP and I'm betting I can get better mpg than epa on the highway. My goal is a tank at 30 mpg. I wanna run it on 4 cyl mode as much as possible.
Any comments out there?
My GXP has just over 7000 miles, the best it ever saw was 24mpg. I know I wouldnt have the patience to attempt to drive it easy enough to get 30mpg, and doubt if it is possible to do.
Mike
As to mpg -- don't worry, i'm not going to slow anyone down. I occasionally drive in very rural areas and sometimes just to get some amusement out of a long haul I'll drive like I've got the last tank of gas in the world. Heck, I've nursed a legit 20+ on a suburban, round trip.
Other drives I won't be shy about putting the hammer down. I've covered a thousand miles in a day through the west, and it wasn't a long day either
As for the Bonne GXP - check the tach when you are at a set cruising speed on level road - it should kick down in rpm as the OD lockup settles in. Maybe the tranny isn't shifting quite right and keeping your rpm's up. A friend who had a Bonne GXP as a company car consistently got mid 20's in hwy cruising and he doesn't baby it on the road.
Also, this morning when getting gas a young guy said "Grand Prix's are the best American cars."
Just joined the group having just purchased an 05 GXP. Nice car, seats are a bit narrow up front but i was used to my 2002 Bonne SSEI, so it's a little different. 2 Questions I'm trying to get some help with:
1. Anyone know where I can pick up a Navigation system manual? Former owner lost it.
2. I can't get the eject button to work on the NAV system/CD Player. There is a CD in there, and the eject button doesn't do a thing. Thinking I have to take it to a dealer unless someone has experienced this problem and knows of a quick fix!
Thanks everyone!
Marc
It is available for download (.pdf) at mygmlink.com.
- Ray
Decided against that rather expensive option on my 2005 . .
Thanks