I would like to start by thanking everyone for the great information that helped me with my purchase of a Dark Cherry '06 GXP (loaded w/o Nav & block heater).
I traded my 94 Trans Am 4 years ago (a couple years after moving to Western NY) because I really needed something that would handle the Winter weather. I have been driving an 01 Bonny SSEi, but the SuperCharger was just not the same as that old V8.
I sat in the GXP for the first time Wednesday evening and immediately remembered my Trans Am. 24 Hours later I said goodbye to my Bonny and have been lovin life since. For me this is exactly what I expected when I bought it. It is a FWD, 4-door Trans Am that I can actually drive in the snow.
It is still early, but so far the car handles great. I have been on plenty of ice over the last few days and this car handles it much better than my 01 SSEi. Based on the tread pattern, I am concerned about snow and slush even with all the comments about how the tires are engineered to handle the snow. I will let you all know as soon as I encounter the traditional snow and slush that we usually get all Winter long up here.
I spend much of my time driving all over the Northeast (NY, NJ, PA, & New England) so I expect to see all weather conditions soon. I picked up the car on Thursday night with 60 miles on it and after driving to NJ today, I now have only 390 total miles.
Gas mileage from Western NY to NJ was 24.5MPG according to the DIC with an average speed of 69.7MPH (I reset the DIC before I left the house). I usually put it on cruise at 73MPH, but traffic, construction, and aggression caused that to vary today. Top speed was only about 90 (only once or twice when avoiding the "big rig box in". IMO the 27MPG seems about right but the 17MPG Rating is way off. The only way I can imagine getting 17MPG off the highway would be to live someplace where you could leave it at 40MPH all the time (and who would want to do that???)
So far everything is nice and tight, but we will see what a few thousand miles does to it.
Torque Steer - What torque steer? Nothing more than I am used to in the SSEi.
Speaker Hiss - I have listened for it but can't hear it. I believe those that say it is there, I guess my ears are just not that sensitive.
- "Lovin every minute of it" because I knew what I wanted and then bought it VS buying it then thinking about what I really wanted.
Does anyone know about those GM credit card dollars? I got a brochure today that just upped mine another $1700 for incentive to buy I guess. Can I just cut my best deal at the dealership, then drop this as a "hole card"? I'm guessing this is off of GM's price, so shouldn't affect the haggeling at the dealership. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks
I also have the 2006 Grand Prix GXP in Dark Cherry and I love the color. This weekend we had ice and snow. On Sunday I removed all the snow but had trouble with chopping the ice (I don't use salt on my driveway). My driveway is a hill. Well, Monday morning I was concerned about getting up the hill. My car shot right up with absolutely no problems -- 16 degrees temp. Then I went to my dealer 20 miles away where the conditions were worse and his lot was snow packed with ice, nothing was done, and the entrance a hill. The car drove straight up and performed superbly. Robert Hammen was absolutely right when he said the car could be driven in snow. I was very pleased with the car's performance driving in these conditions. I do not have winter tires and have no intentions of buying them -- just the tires that came with the car. So, I was very happy about all this. If you go to the GM website and connect with Canada where the car was made the tires are described as "All Season Performance" exact same tire sizes and Bridgestone Potenza, as with the Pontiac.com website it only states the tire sizes, nothing about the type. Good luck with your new car. I get many many compliments on the color -- more than on my other GTP's. The color is very rich looking.
When I purchased my 2006 GXP in August, after we negotiated the price at the end I gave the salesman my last GM statement listing the rewards I'm entitled to; he called, verified everything and took that amount off the final price at the end of the contract. They get the money back from GM. You don't do anything. The salesperson does it there while you are sitting there. It's very easy. It worked the same way with my 2002. When he called me to tell me that my ordered car came in, I gave him all the card info, he called, called me back and deducted it from the contract I had in front of me in work. There's no gimmick.
chats1 is right. you can get down to your lowest negotiated price first, and then let them know about your gm card $$ afterwards, also it is very easy to redeem on the spot at the dealership.
...and chats1, i think that we all have gotten your point about the hissing either being worse in your car or bothering you more than most, so good luck resolving it (however you may choose), but it's not necessary to rehash it every time someone brings the subject up (any new info would still be appreciated though)
Yep - make the deal and just before they start to do up all the paperwork tell them you also have GM Card points to use... I've never had a problem using them. The dealer calls the GM Card line and you verify info & tell them yes. I got similar offer upping mine to $2000. I'd like to replace the Wife's Volvo with a Vibe - but the Vibe isn't on the redemption list that came with this offer - Darn.
Bob, I investigated the possibility that because of onstar and telephone mic, they couldn't include the auto dimming feature. Not True!!! The top end Buicks have onstar AND auto-dimming mirror. Pontiac just decided not to include that feature on its highest priced car, much to my disappointment. i never expected that my 99 GTP would have been better equiped than my 2006, more expensive GXP. No wonder they are losing customers. TjrGXP :mad:
“The good news about the rear view mirror is that it takes up so much of the view”
One thing I did not realize until I started playing with it (since I see no place in the ’05 manual where it mentions this) is that the inside mirror can be adjusted up and down as well.
I now have mine up further than when delivered – leaving just enough space above to see through the top of the windshield, when required.
- Ray In favor of large mirrors - and many adjustments . .
“One thing I did not realize until I started playing with it (since I see no place in the ’05 manual where it mentions this) is that the inside mirror can be adjusted up and down as well.”
There’s a manual? Seriously, thanks Ray. It never occurred to me that the mirror’s mounting stalk might be double jointed. I moved it up and it’s much better.
Well, I picked up my GXP on Saturday. Thanks to you guys, I was able to educate my saleperson about some issues like the hissing and spare. When he did hear it, I told him what I had learned here. He was unaware of anything about it, so assured me it would get repaired if I wished. He even wrote on my Motor Veh Purchase that after two tries there, it would get sent to a "private repair shop" at their expense. Only ONE salesperson at the delaership knew about the lack of a spare too; and it wasn't mine. He also said that they would hunt up some type of spare, and see what options are available when I do need another tire/wheel off site. He felt assured that Pontiac must have something that will fit. Lastly, they were never even phased by the GM dollars either. He called them "cyber dollars" and was happy that I had them. Now, I can't wait to start driving this thing! Thanks again for the info.
Are the rims different sizes, or are just the tires different sizes? The brochure isn't clear on this.
I hope the rims are all the same, as I'd like to put the same size tires on all four corners when the tires on my '07 (yes, I'm planning ahead) wear out.
At least to me, an extra hundreth or two of a g on the skid pad isn't worth the trouble of not being able to rotate my tires nor to be able to put a set of better weather tires on all four corners.
Thanks for the mirror info (although i'm bummed also bummed about the lack of auto-dimming that i had in my 97 gtp, it is nice to be able to move the mirror up out of the way of most of the windshield)
Has anyone installed a drop-in OEM replacement K&N air filter part# 33-2334 or the INTENSE™ LS4 Fenderwell Intake Kit?
On my old 97 GTP, I used the 9" cone K&N but had it on a short intake which left it in the engine bay.
Would going all the way out through the fender wall make much of a difference since we do have front air dams and heat extractors which should keep the bay cooler than the old GTP's?
Some of us were worried back then about puddles splashing up on the filter when it's in the fender wall, and keeping it in the bay allowed us to hear the supercharger much better.
I worry about no spare either. I was happy to see that there still was a spare tire well that is empty! On Sunday, I'm going to try and test fit an 18" x 7 1/2" Chrysler 300C wheel. These are pretty cheap around here since most guys have take-offs laying around because they want the 20's or 22's. I'll keep you posted. If I can get 4 cheap enough, I'll use them as winter a setup too.
Just got a 2006 GXP last week. My GXP is loaded with all options. I already have a few impressions. 1) This car is more fun than I am allowed to have with my clothes on! 2) Performance and handling are great. Probably the fastest car I have ever owned. 3) The navigation leaves a bit to be desired. It can't find any particular streets in my development even though the development is 12 years old and it shows the streets on the map. (My $600 Garmin Street Pilot 2610 does a much better job!) 4) That said the navigation system showing the next turn on the HUD is awesome! 5) I don't think I have the stereo hum problem. (I couldn't hear it.) 6) It handles pretty good in the snow. (As long as I keep my foot out of the gas.) 7) My 12 year old son thinks it's the coolest car in the world... Scott
After we (just me and him)got back from taking him on first ride in it, my wife asked "Dad didn't drive fast did he?" Josh trying to protect me stated, "No Mom, Dad didn't go 90 on the entrance ramp..." Gee thanks son.... :surprise:
Our 5 1/2 year old loves our 2005 GXP... likes to ride in the "fassst" car. I will hear these "Whoasss" and "ohsss" coming from the backseat as we bank through the curves. I look in the RVM to see her throwing herself back and forth just having a great time, better than a carnival ride... she loves it - somehow I can't stop thinking about what kind of driver I'm creating back there! :surprise:
Hey, Ocmike3, or anyone else. Does your kid complain of the lack of visibility in the back seat? the windows are kinda small back there. Or do they like the 'cave' like feeling? The seats are comfortable, esp. for mid-size bodies....
She doesn't complain too much, she does like the visibility in the truck better. I put a no-slide pad(~1") under her booster seat and that helps. The rear seat is low, and not real comfy so its a little like sitting in a bucket w/the smaller windows. On family rides, my wife usually rides in back with the daughter, and she has a seat pad she uses also. Its made with that soft "gelly" kinda of rubber. She says the new gen GP back seats are a little better than the old gen. 17.4 mpg on last tank - mostly around town.
I drove a gxp this past weekend and we're ready to buy. My wife loves it. My only concern is the back seat. It's not the greatest, but we have a big truck for longer trips when the whole clan is riding (five of us). Course, the back seats are a hell of a lot more comfortable than the car my parents had growing up: it was a utility van, and I my 'seat' was the top of a wooden foot locker :surprise: Granted, I never thought of complaining...it was all exciting. Six people in an gmc work van...that had only two seat belts. Now there's safety! Course, my dad was careful, something I see in short supply now that everyone has 47 airbags in their car
Please include a spare tire and please make the front and rear rims and tires the same, so that I can rotate them front to rear. I promise to not complain about the minor performance degradation.
Also, please make sure that the stereo hum is fixed and that the HVAC works properly.
I finally got around to test fitting the Chyrysler 300C 18" wheels today. The fronts look the same, and the backs stick out maybe an inch farther then the origianls. Either way, this will be a cheap way to get an extra set of wheels for the winter. I'm debating whether to paint them black or white too.
Well, visited the auto show yesterday and had narrowed it down to the Impala SS and Grand Prix GXP. They made it easy, right next to one another on the floor. I went back and forth comparing the two and sitting in both. Bottom line, I think I am getting the GXP. The seats are far more comfortable and supportive, the Impala's are just flat and bench like. The dash is more interesting. I like the style and looks as well. Thanks to all for any info they provided. Hoping to be a new GXP owner sometime soon.
All, I was at the dealer yesterday, had the VIN of the car I wanted, Stealth Gray loaded GXP. I had the supplier discount form. I had both my GM credit cards, a regular with $50 bucks, but topped off to $2000K and a gmextended card with ~$200 more. There was also an auto show $500 rebate. The dealer said I couldn't use the 2K top off with the supplier price? This sounds bogus, so if I would negotiate that price I could use it? Is there a price requirement before I can use the 2K top off? Still want the GXP but I want a decent deal.
I qualify for GM Employee pricing through my retired grandfather, but if you read the fine print, the $2,000 top off does not apply to "GM Discount" pricing. Because of that, I just ended up buying at invoice and saving a bunch more than I would've with Employee pricing. That being said, I knew that coming in from reading the fine print. The good news is that if you can find someone to get close to invoice (or at invoice), your supplier pricing isn't that far off of it.
If you read the fine print on the Top Off brochures they talk about not combining it with other Bonus Earnings offers or GM Purchase program discounts... I was sort of excited when I got mine, because I was thinking an AWD Vibe might be a decent replacement for the wife's wagon, but it isn't included in the vehicle list. With the new lower pricing, getting additional discounts from GM is getting tougher and tougher. (I ended up paying $25600 w/other discounts on top of their employee discount price for my 2005 GXP w/MSRP of $33,395 in June 2005)
Thanks, the flap with the fine print was torn off. Think I may wait a bit, don't have to buy, just want to. Think they may offer at least as good later in the year and hopefully can combine with other GM cards. Know I want a GXP will have to see.
Well, Went back to a new dealer with the Stealth Gray GXP on their lot, loaded, except Navigation system. Negotiated the price and was able to apply the 2K rebate and a local auto show rebate and got it for $26600. Had a decent trade and got the total down to $15Kish + TTL. In texas can reduce the price of tax via trades. So I get to pick it up tomorrow , had tint added, summer in texas tough. It may rain all weekend, so will have to wait a bit to explore the fun under the hood .
:P I purchased a 2005 bonneville gxp, and the fuel mileage sucks. I average about 21.5 - 22.5 on a trip, keeping it around 70mph. My last car was a 2000 seville sls with this same northstar engine, and id get about 26-28. I know the gearing is different with my gxp, but does anyone know if theres a way to improve the mileage? I've intalled 2 flowmaster "hushpower 2" mufflers, for a "mean growl" which is surely has, but the mileage didnt change. what else can i do? i have 9500 miles on the car. I'm considering taking a loss, and going back to cad, but just thought i'd see if anyone knew of anything. Also, that brake dust on the front wheels sucks, but at least theres no hiss in the interior!! Thanks from Bakersfield..GAry
By my math (always suspect) and your average MPGs and (a guess, clearly) 15,000 miles driven per year I calculate:
22 vs 27 mpg mpg miles \ yr $ per gal 22 15000 $3.00 $2,045.45 27 15000 $3.00 $1,666.67 diff \ yr $378.79
One car payment? I guess if these are close to accurate, I can't think of any economically reasonable way to address this issue . . - Ray Not really understanding the size of the issue ???
Well, maybe im just expecting too much. The other 2 sevilles with the same engine that i had always got at least 2mpg above what the sticker quoted. The GXP, 2mpg below the sticker. They were 40-50 thousand mile cars when i got them, so maybe it will increase with engine wear.
Well, maybe im just expecting too much. The other 2 sevilles with the same engine that i had always got at least 2mpg above what the sticker quoted. The GXP, 2mpg below the sticker. They were 40-50 thousand mile cars when i got them, so maybe it will increase with engine wear.
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I mean no disrespect. Really.
And I believe that ** SOMETHING ** has changed over the past few years with regard to the correlation ( or not ) between the EPA estimates and the real world gas mileage many people are seeing.
I too would typically be able to beat the EPA highway, on a reasonably long (and not too much over the posted speed limits) primarily highway run. Until my 2005 GXP.
And I have seen this ‘complaint’ on a number of Forums, including other Make \ Model threads here on Edmunds. The Infiniti M series comes immediately to mind. And the Caddy STS V8 1SF & 1SG.
The scenarios appears consistently to be something like this:
Had car X. EPA: Y \ Z ( city \ highway) Typical city \ highway mileage = close to Y and sometimes higher than Z. Buy (M35 or M45 or STS) or GXP. EPA: 18 \ 27. Typical city \ highway mileage = less than 18 and never over 27.
// Speculation mode = on \\
My guess is that either the emissions standards have changed ( not that I know of ) in the past 2 or 3 years, or the typical Manufacturer’s emphasis has shifted – from good real world gas mileage to the absolute best possible EPA ratings for a given configuration.
Possibly to market the higher EPA numbers.
Possibly to meet CAFÉ requirements, with ever more HP & TQ.
And as we keep seeking additional equipment, vehicle weight creeps up.
Anyway – I am really not suggesting a conspiracy here.
But I believe that each manufacturer is working ever harder to post higher EPA numbers, as consumers faced with gasoline prices rising significantly. And the result has been that typical drivers – in as close to identical driving (same commute, same load, same amount of errand running as with the previous vehicle) do not achieve the same actual fuel mileage, relative to the EPA estimates, as in the previous vehicle.
I just believe that something has changed.
\\ Speculation mode = off //
- Ray Never having achieved over 25 MPG in any tankfull even under close to ‘ideal’ real word conditions with the Grand Prix GXP, so far . . .
Was that 26.5 babying it? Or just driving normal highway?
I'm the king of squeezing mpg out of a car. My 96 olds 88 with a 3.8 has gotten me 37 mpg during a hyper-mellow 150 mile round trip. I know if you baby a car like crazy it will get substantially better mpg. I ordered a GXP and I'm betting I can get better mpg than epa on the highway. My goal is a tank at 30 mpg. I wanna run it on 4 cyl mode as much as possible.
I was driving on the highway. I drive 4 highways each way a day to work. I have had 3 Grand Prix GTP's and the highest I ever had gotten was around 31.5. I always use Amoco Ultimate gas, but over Labor Day when the Amoco Station didn't have premium, I had to go over to the Mobil station to get premium gas and then I noticed my mileage was much better with the Amoco gas than the Mobil. I don't really know if that means anything or it just worked out that way! When you get your GXP, please listen to see if you hear the humming/hissing sound we all have been talking about, probably especially me. But, now I know others have joined in. Listen, before you sign anything, get in your new car and when you open the door listen and bring it to their attention. I'm anxious to hear what your dealer has to say. So far no bulletins have been issued to correct this annoying problem. They check whenever I take it in for an oil change and I'll be going again in 2 weeks. Thanks.
Good luck!!!! And if you do attempt to get that kind of mileage out of a GXP, please do it on the back roads so you aren't in the way of the rest of us traveling at regular speeds.
My GXP has just over 7000 miles, the best it ever saw was 24mpg. I know I wouldnt have the patience to attempt to drive it easy enough to get 30mpg, and doubt if it is possible to do.
Thanks for the reminder to check the hiss I've heard about. Some people say its there, others don't notice anything. I'll report back.
As to mpg -- don't worry, i'm not going to slow anyone down. I occasionally drive in very rural areas and sometimes just to get some amusement out of a long haul I'll drive like I've got the last tank of gas in the world. Heck, I've nursed a legit 20+ on a suburban, round trip.
Other drives I won't be shy about putting the hammer down. I've covered a thousand miles in a day through the west, and it wasn't a long day either
My 2005 GXP is just broken in and I've gotten 26-27mpg on two cruising trips running 65-70+mph most of the time. I find in my local commuting it is tough to get decent mpg because the temptation to go around all the slower drivers keeps the foot down too much. As for the Bonne GXP - check the tach when you are at a set cruising speed on level road - it should kick down in rpm as the OD lockup settles in. Maybe the tranny isn't shifting quite right and keeping your rpm's up. A friend who had a Bonne GXP as a company car consistently got mid 20's in hwy cruising and he doesn't baby it on the road.
I just want to make a comment here. A few weeks ago when I was getting gas a guy came in with either a Honda or Toyota for service and walked over to me and said "What a beautiful grand prix; hope it lasts; look at those big brakes." I said "It will; I've had five Pontiacs."!!!
Also, this morning when getting gas a young guy said "Grand Prix's are the best American cars."
I posted this on a GP forum but last night I went to a very large local dealer that turns a lot of cars and in the 'waiting to be delivered' interior staging area there were six cars: a solstice, a new GMC suv, a G6 coupe, a torrent and TWO GXPs. The salesman here says they are now selling more GXPs than other GPs combined. Seems that Pontiac figured out how to add some pep to the car, no? Add one big dose of V8, sprinkle with some awesome brakes, add a helping of stability control, a pair of sweet front buckets and, voila, it sells!
If anyone is in the california area, and wants an awesome car price on a pontiac or other various cars, look at this website. it's www.reynolds1915.com They currently have a gxp . I bought about 3 cars from them and its tough to get a better deal than they have. I bought my 05 bonneville Gxp in october, with a sticker price of $39,000. Got it from them for $26,950, with 3500 miles on it. My car was a corporate car from general motors they said, and thats what most of their low mileage cars are. Had i waited 2 months, i could have got a fully loaded 06 grand prix with 17! miles on it for 24,950!! nav and everything.......Dang.....Ya never know.......Gary in Bakersfield california....Goodbye Buck!!
Hello everyone, Just joined the group having just purchased an 05 GXP. Nice car, seats are a bit narrow up front but i was used to my 2002 Bonne SSEI, so it's a little different. 2 Questions I'm trying to get some help with: 1. Anyone know where I can pick up a Navigation system manual? Former owner lost it. 2. I can't get the eject button to work on the NAV system/CD Player. There is a CD in there, and the eject button doesn't do a thing. Thinking I have to take it to a dealer unless someone has experienced this problem and knows of a quick fix! Thanks everyone! Marc
Are you sure? I went to the site, registered, logged on, and all I could find was a $10.00 version that has to be mailed to me. Didn't see any .pdf's on there. Thanks
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I traded my 94 Trans Am 4 years ago
I sat in the GXP for the first time Wednesday evening and immediately remembered my Trans Am. 24 Hours later I said goodbye to my Bonny and have been lovin life since. For me this is exactly what I expected when I bought it. It is a FWD, 4-door Trans Am that I can actually drive in the snow.
It is still early, but so far the car handles great. I have been on plenty of ice over the last few days and this car handles it much better than my 01 SSEi. Based on the tread pattern, I am concerned about snow and slush even with all the comments about how the tires are engineered to handle the snow. I will let you all know as soon as I encounter the traditional snow and slush that we usually get all Winter long up here.
I spend much of my time driving all over the Northeast (NY, NJ, PA, & New England) so I expect to see all weather conditions soon. I picked up the car on Thursday night with 60 miles on it and after driving to NJ today, I now have only 390 total miles.
Gas mileage from Western NY to NJ was 24.5MPG according to the DIC with an average speed of 69.7MPH (I reset the DIC before I left the house). I usually put it on cruise at 73MPH, but traffic, construction, and aggression caused that to vary today. Top speed was only about 90 (only once or twice when avoiding the "big rig box in". IMO the 27MPG seems about right but the 17MPG Rating is way off. The only way I can imagine getting 17MPG off the highway would be to live someplace where you could leave it at 40MPH all the time (and who would want to do that???)
So far everything is nice and tight, but we will see what a few thousand miles does to it.
Torque Steer - What torque steer? Nothing more than I am used to in the SSEi.
Speaker Hiss - I have listened for it but can't hear it. I believe those that say it is there, I guess my ears are just not that sensitive.
- "Lovin every minute of it" because I knew what I wanted and then bought it VS buying it then thinking about what I really wanted.
...and chats1, i think that we all have gotten your point about the hissing either being worse in your car or bothering you more than most, so good luck resolving it (however you may choose), but it's not necessary to rehash it every time someone brings the subject up (any new info would still be appreciated though)
I got similar offer upping mine to $2000.
I'd like to replace the Wife's Volvo with a Vibe - but the Vibe isn't on the redemption list that came with this offer - Darn.
I investigated the possibility that because of onstar and telephone mic, they couldn't include the auto dimming feature. Not True!!! The top end Buicks have onstar AND auto-dimming mirror. Pontiac just decided not to include that feature on its highest priced car, much to my disappointment. i never expected that my 99 GTP would have been better equiped than my 2006, more expensive GXP. No wonder they are losing customers.
TjrGXP :mad:
One thing I did not realize until I started playing with it (since I see no place in the ’05 manual where it mentions this) is that the inside mirror can be adjusted up and down as well.
I now have mine up further than when delivered – leaving just enough space above to see through the top of the windshield, when required.
- Ray
In favor of large mirrors - and many adjustments . .
There’s a manual? Seriously, thanks Ray. It never occurred to me that the mirror’s mounting stalk might be double jointed. I moved it up and it’s much better.
I hope the rims are all the same, as I'd like to put the same size tires on all four corners when the tires on my '07 (yes, I'm planning ahead) wear out.
At least to me, an extra hundreth or two of a g on the skid pad isn't worth the trouble of not being able to rotate my tires nor to be able to put a set of better weather tires on all four corners.
WHEELS AND TIRES
Wheel size: F: 8.0 x 18 in, R: 7.0 x 18 in
Wheel type: forged aluminum
Tires: Bridgestone Potenza RE050A; F: P255/45R-18 99W, R: P225/50R-18 94W
From C+D test.
- Ray
Wishing you luck . . .
On my old 97 GTP, I used the 9" cone K&N but had it on a short intake which left it in the engine bay.
Would going all the way out through the fender wall make much of a difference since we do have front air dams and heat extractors which should keep the bay cooler than the old GTP's?
Some of us were worried back then about puddles splashing up on the filter when it's in the fender wall, and keeping it in the bay allowed us to hear the supercharger much better.
Thanks,
Brian
1) This car is more fun than I am allowed to have with my clothes on!
2) Performance and handling are great. Probably the fastest car I have ever owned.
3) The navigation leaves a bit to be desired. It can't find any particular streets in my development even though the development is 12 years old and it shows the streets on the map. (My $600 Garmin Street Pilot 2610 does a much better job!)
4) That said the navigation system showing the next turn on the HUD is awesome!
5) I don't think I have the stereo hum problem. (I couldn't hear it.)
6) It handles pretty good in the snow. (As long as I keep my foot out of the gas.)
7) My 12 year old son thinks it's the coolest car in the world...
Scott
Priceless.
How does your son find the backseat -- view/seat/legroom??
After we (just me and him)got back from taking him on first ride in it, my wife asked "Dad didn't drive fast did he?" Josh trying to protect me stated, "No Mom, Dad didn't go 90 on the entrance ramp..." Gee thanks son....
:surprise:
Thanks
17.4 mpg on last tank - mostly around town.
I drove a gxp this past weekend and we're ready to buy. My wife loves it. My only concern is the back seat. It's not the greatest, but we have a big truck for longer trips when the whole clan is riding (five of us). Course, the back seats are a hell of a lot more comfortable than the car my parents had growing up: it was a utility van, and I my 'seat' was the top of a wooden foot locker :surprise: Granted, I never thought of complaining...it was all exciting. Six people in an gmc work van...that had only two seat belts. Now there's safety! Course, my dad was careful, something I see in short supply now that everyone has 47 airbags in their car
I'd like to buy a Black 2007 GXP next Fall.
I'd like it to have the nav system.
Please include a spare tire and please make the front and rear rims and tires the same, so that I can rotate them front to rear. I promise to not complain about the minor performance degradation.
Also, please make sure that the stereo hum is fixed and that the HVAC works properly.
Thank you,
GXP lover
Cheers,
Bubbaman
I was at the dealer yesterday, had the VIN of the car I wanted, Stealth Gray loaded GXP. I had the supplier discount form. I had both my GM credit cards, a regular with $50 bucks, but topped off to $2000K and a gmextended card with ~$200 more. There was also an auto show $500 rebate. The dealer said I couldn't use the 2K top off with the supplier price? This sounds bogus, so if I would negotiate that price I could use it? Is there a price requirement before I can use the 2K top off? Still want the GXP but I want a decent deal.
Thanks,
Bubbaman
I was sort of excited when I got mine, because I was thinking an AWD Vibe might be a decent replacement for the wife's wagon, but it isn't included in the vehicle list.
With the new lower pricing, getting additional discounts from GM is getting tougher and tougher.
(I ended up paying $25600 w/other discounts on top of their employee discount price for my 2005 GXP w/MSRP of $33,395 in June 2005)
Went back to a new dealer with the Stealth Gray GXP on their lot, loaded, except Navigation system. Negotiated the price and was able to apply the 2K rebate and a local auto show rebate and got it for $26600. Had a decent trade and got the total down to $15Kish + TTL. In texas can reduce the price of tax via trades. So I get to pick it up tomorrow
Cheers,
Bubbaman
Enjoy!
- Ray
2005 GXP driver - at over 11,000 (mostly VERY happy) miles . . .
22 vs 27 mpg
mpg miles \ yr $ per gal
22 15000 $3.00 $2,045.45
27 15000 $3.00 $1,666.67
diff \ yr $378.79
One car payment?
I guess if these are close to accurate, I can't think of any economically reasonable way to address this issue . .
- Ray
Not really understanding the size of the issue ???
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I mean no disrespect.
Really.
And I believe that ** SOMETHING ** has changed over the past few years with regard to the correlation ( or not ) between the EPA estimates and the real world gas mileage many people are seeing.
I too would typically be able to beat the EPA highway, on a reasonably long (and not too much over the posted speed limits) primarily highway run. Until my 2005 GXP.
And I have seen this ‘complaint’ on a number of Forums, including other Make \ Model threads here on Edmunds. The Infiniti M series comes immediately to mind. And the Caddy STS V8 1SF & 1SG.
The scenarios appears consistently to be something like this:
Had car X. EPA: Y \ Z ( city \ highway)
Typical city \ highway mileage = close to Y and sometimes higher than Z.
Buy (M35 or M45 or STS) or GXP. EPA: 18 \ 27.
Typical city \ highway mileage = less than 18 and never over 27.
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My guess is that either the emissions standards have changed ( not that I know of ) in the past 2 or 3 years, or the typical Manufacturer’s emphasis has shifted – from good real world gas mileage to the absolute best possible EPA ratings for a given configuration.
Possibly to market the higher EPA numbers.
Possibly to meet CAFÉ requirements, with ever more HP & TQ.
And as we keep seeking additional equipment, vehicle weight creeps up.
Anyway – I am really not suggesting a conspiracy here.
But I believe that each manufacturer is working ever harder to post higher EPA numbers, as consumers faced with gasoline prices rising significantly. And the result has been that typical drivers – in as close to identical driving (same commute, same load, same amount of errand running as with the previous vehicle) do not achieve the same actual fuel mileage, relative to the EPA estimates, as in the previous vehicle.
I just believe that something has changed.
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- Ray
Never having achieved over 25 MPG in any tankfull even under close to ‘ideal’ real word conditions with the Grand Prix GXP, so far . . .
I'm the king of squeezing mpg out of a car. My 96 olds 88 with a 3.8 has gotten me 37 mpg during a hyper-mellow 150 mile round trip. I know if you baby a car like crazy it will get substantially better mpg. I ordered a GXP and I'm betting I can get better mpg than epa on the highway. My goal is a tank at 30 mpg. I wanna run it on 4 cyl mode as much as possible.
Any comments out there?
My GXP has just over 7000 miles, the best it ever saw was 24mpg. I know I wouldnt have the patience to attempt to drive it easy enough to get 30mpg, and doubt if it is possible to do.
Mike
As to mpg -- don't worry, i'm not going to slow anyone down. I occasionally drive in very rural areas and sometimes just to get some amusement out of a long haul I'll drive like I've got the last tank of gas in the world. Heck, I've nursed a legit 20+ on a suburban, round trip.
Other drives I won't be shy about putting the hammer down. I've covered a thousand miles in a day through the west, and it wasn't a long day either
As for the Bonne GXP - check the tach when you are at a set cruising speed on level road - it should kick down in rpm as the OD lockup settles in. Maybe the tranny isn't shifting quite right and keeping your rpm's up. A friend who had a Bonne GXP as a company car consistently got mid 20's in hwy cruising and he doesn't baby it on the road.
Also, this morning when getting gas a young guy said "Grand Prix's are the best American cars."
Just joined the group having just purchased an 05 GXP. Nice car, seats are a bit narrow up front but i was used to my 2002 Bonne SSEI, so it's a little different. 2 Questions I'm trying to get some help with:
1. Anyone know where I can pick up a Navigation system manual? Former owner lost it.
2. I can't get the eject button to work on the NAV system/CD Player. There is a CD in there, and the eject button doesn't do a thing. Thinking I have to take it to a dealer unless someone has experienced this problem and knows of a quick fix!
Thanks everyone!
Marc
It is available for download (.pdf) at mygmlink.com.
- Ray
Decided against that rather expensive option on my 2005 . .
Thanks