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Toyota Avalon Navigation System

bypopbypop Posts: 1
My 04 navigation unit started coding check DVD and error; I took it to my dealer who advised that the Unit is defective and is causing a ridge to form on the control disk. Dealer advised to call the Toyota 800 number due to my 36K warranty is gone. Called toyota and they referred me back to my dealer who is giving me the stall.anyone with similar problem or possible solution thanks.


  • pcgpcg Posts: 6
    Is it possible to have the Toyota factory NAV system retro-fitted to the '05 Avalon Touring Model?
  • arkitek4arkitek4 Posts: 2
    Night Nav Screen I am unable to get the night nav screen to show. The day screen is always on.When I first brought the car home, the night screen showed up in a darkened garage, but have been unable to get it to darken lately. On the contrast/brightness screen the "day mode" does not appear. How do I bring that screen back? Can someone walk me thru the setup commands?
  • arkitek4arkitek4 Posts: 2
    Just took the car in to Toyota:
    They set all the switches to default on the display screen and the night mode came back along with the toggle to keep the bright screen at night. End of story!
  • fragmirefragmire Posts: 97
    Arkitek4: What switches? Are these within the navigation system or are they hardware switches somewhere?
  • pdr99pdr99 Posts: 2
    The DVD version number on my menu screen ("DVD" is upper right icon) screen says "Ver.04.1". I saw a version 4.2 referenced somewhere but cannot relocate.

    Does anyone have any info on a later DVD version? If so, is there any
    way to find out changes from previous revision?

  • rod8rod8 Posts: 4
    I've called Toyota a couple of times about the navigation system in the Avalon. I don't like it. I've looked at the Prius and also the Lexus, both great systems. I was told today, that the Avalon uses the #3 system and the others use the #4. I don't know who made this decision but it was a bad one. I think if enough people complained they would change it. I think it is a soft ware problem but I'm not that much into computers. The biggest difference I can see, is when you go to the POI and press enter, the others highlight "LIST" which the Avalon doesn't. You have to go through several more steps in order to show the lists. Thanks, Rod
  • is there any way to get rid of the initial navigation question where you accept to drive safely? seems ridiculous to have to agree a zillion times!
  • Just purchased the 2006 Avalon. We've used navigation systems before and this is the first that doesn't allow us to input a destination while driving. It takes the fun out of using it. There must be a sensor connected to the axel. The function activates the moment the car comes to a stop. I understand the legal problem, but doesn't the Agree button indemnify Toyota? It doesn't make sense. The passenger is not operating the vehicle. Anyway, is there a way to deactivate this restriction?
  • I would also be interested in a simple way of bypassing this silly restriction. I just traded in an '05 Honda Odyssey Touring with nav. The nav in the Honda allowed the use of all the navigation functions while driving. This came in especially handy this summer during 2 major trips from the Las Vegas area to Wisconsin, to Florida and back to Nevada. While driving, we would use the POI to find motels and call while on the way. If we made better time than we anticipated or decided to just drive further, my wife would use the POI list to find something further down the road. While we were doing this, we could continue to eat up the miles at (generally) around 80mph. It would have been a major pain if we had to stop every time we wanted to use the POI list.
    I also have a Garmin 2610 which we use if we fly and rent a car. This is also functional while driving.
    Both the Garmin and the Honda unit (made by Alpine) have the usual "pay attention while underway blah blah blah", so I think that Toyota is being just a bit over zealous in their attempt to nanny us. :P
  • I just bought this car and was surprised to find that the nav system was years behind my 2000 Acura TL's system. Touch screen is much easier than this mickey mouse type entry and having to stop to use the system is nuts. How does someone in the car using the system become dangerous?

    Toyota is too far behind. Wish I had tested the nav before buying it. Would have bought a garmin hand-held instead. Dealers seem unable to cope with customer requests on this one.
  • I have a 2006 Avalon Limited with the navigation system. I also have had some problems understanding some of the features of the system. Such as when you are inserting a destination what do you need to do to modify the route the NAV system elects for you. Any comments or advise will be appreciated. Thanks Duane :)
  • I agree. Bought a limited yesterday. I think the instruction manual on the nav system was written in Kyoto. I have a Maggelan in my other car and a chartplotter in my boat. Never had a problem like this. No one at my large dealership could figure it out.They do not use terms like "address book" or "store" that americans are used to. I can't believe that Toyota couldn't have had a new user work with that manual before they published it.
  • I didn't get the GPS on my new Avalon Limited . Would you recommend a Tom Tom or a Garmin as you mention in your post? I also can't believe they didn't put an outside temperature gauge on this car. talk about being behind.
  • neil5neil5 Posts: 118
    First, I have friends with Lexus system (both voice). Lexus touch screen, Avalon has Mouse. Functionality is the same. I had daughter type up all 150 voice commands on one sheet of paper and laminated it for the car. "Push button and say Chinese, japanese, Atm, Hospital, emergency etc. Very easy and same can be done with mouse. you can move the circle over the item in the distance on the map and it will tell you exact milage to that site. This is a very fast system with excellent voice recognition, so you people afraid of computers relax. So far the Avalon is the best buy I have found.
  • neil5neil5 Posts: 118
    True but the voice activation does let you locate sites by voice command.."mall, gas station, hotels, etc" Read your manual
  • bobwileybobwiley Posts: 241
    Toyota Nv System is TOTALLY user "unfriendly" and I'm sorry I got it. I can't even put in my home address--its not recognized along with many other spots in our area. Nav Sys on Lexus ES is great--same with TL. I bought Nav Sys & Remote Start on an impulse--neither are that great--I love the Laser Cruise. I've written to Toyota and voiced my disstisfaction with the Nav Sys. I've told friends who after seeing our Avalon are considering one--DO NOT buy the Nav System--buy a Garmin GPS for $600-$900--or better yet--ask directions!!
  • theazlittheazlit Posts: 4
    I disagree with you. With the extended warranty for 7 years and 100,000 miles, the factory installed is fine. I have used both and have little problem programing it. People have to realize that manufacturers cannot support programing on the fly, anyway. The way current legislation is moving against cell phones in sue during driving, I certain that programming on the fly would be serious liability for Toyota.
  • bobwileybobwiley Posts: 241
    theazlit: Guess I missed something here? I never advocated programming on the move--I just said for the "average" person, the Nav System is complicated and takes considerable time to understand. i also find it odd that adresses that have existed for over 10 years cannot be programmed. And, for that reason I still say that an $800 Garmin GPS can do the same thing except provide a female direction voice.
  • fhsfhs Posts: 1
    I have an 06 limited with the navigation system. When I select the heading up option, a compass needle appears in the left top corner. The red end of compass needle correctly shows north and south but east and west appear to be reversed. I cannot seem to correct this. Any ideas?

  • sharkmama49sharkmama49 Posts: 22
    I was wondering if anyone has had a problem with their nav screen saying it can't read the dvd. If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix this, I would really appreciate it. If not, I guess I will have to go to the dealer.

    Sharkmama :confuse:
  • neil5neil5 Posts: 118
    As another add-on Modification. Just installed Backup Camera like Lexus sells on to my NAV screen. For more info see Galleries Toyotanation 3rd gen Avalon pics and that forum. Tonight under evening lighting I could see behind me (20% TINT) perfectly.
  • dandydon2dandydon2 Posts: 77
    Hi Neil,

    I can't locate your reference. Can you provide a URL? I have a new Av Limited and want to add the BU camera. Which one did you choose and how did it go in?

  • dandydon2dandydon2 Posts: 77
    Hi Dzuba,

    I'm not familiar with Honda's nav, but I have used the Lexus system for the past two years and now have one in my new Limited. There have been a lot of complaints in this forum about the Avalon nav; most saying that it is not friendly to use. It's been my experience that you must spend a considerable amount of time learning to use any of these systems, regardless who makes them.

    I'm guessing that most of the Avalon complaints come from those who have never had one of any kind before. Lexus uses a touch screen and Avalon uses a button-joystick method. Believe me, both have their drawbacks and advantages. Others complain that the database doesn't include their local street even though the street has been in existence for several years. Blame the people who develop and update the software. It's a continuing process and will always be less than perfect.

    For those who opt to skip the factory nav and buy an after market variety, maybe it's the right choice for them, but I wouldn't care to stick one on top of my dashboard and have to squint at a tiny screen, plus see wires laying out in the open - not in a new car I just paid big bucks for. Nice to have choices, but mine goes for the factory version.

  • rsblaskirsblaski Posts: 68
    Your statement re the datatbase is correct. Toyota CHOSE to use a nav system with what I consider a very poor GUI. I have had three iterations of the Garmin StreetPilot as well as a 2005 Honda Odyssey with an Alpine based nav system. I used to complain about the Alpine in comparison with the Garmin UNTIL I got my 2006 Toyota Limited with nav. Now I would give my small left toe to get the Alpine based unit in my Ltd. Whereas the Alpine would give a rather tedious announcement about entering an area with unconfirmed mapping, it would at least let you program a destination from that area. With the Toyota, if you are in an unconfirmed area, you are told to drive to a confirmed area before street-by-street directions would begin.
    The Honda (Alpine) unit would also let you enter a destination and do searches while the car is in motion. All nav units that I have used give the generic warning at start-up, but the Toyota is the only one that has refused to let me (or a passneger) do a search or set a destination while under way. I could almost go along with a passenger interlock which would only allow operation if a passenger was on board.
    In summary, I don't fault Toyota for the poor database in the nav unit, I fault them for CHOOSING the nav system that uses that poor database.
    I think that my frustration is greater for having had other nav units. I'm guessing that others who haven't merely assume that these deficiencies are merely common to all nav systems. I and others know better.
  • dzubadzuba Posts: 159 if you had to do it all over again, would you have passed up the Toyota NAV and used a Garmin?

    That is where I am leaning (or towards an Acura TL) I too have an Odyssey w/NAV that I like. Not sure if I really want an external unit, and the wires, etc.........

    However the new Garmin unit not only works great for Navigation, but also includes Bluetooth - an option I desperatley want that is not available in the Midwest. Yes, Bluetooth is offered in the SE by Southeast Toyota (SET), but not in the Midwest.

  • neil5neil5 Posts: 118
    No I want the NAV. It allowed for Backup camera. Today I entered in Home directions while riding. I did not have to stop. Laser Cruise it a bit tricky
  • rsblaskirsblaski Posts: 68
    That's a tough question.
    The nav system is undoubtedly the biggest disappointment in terms of the features of the car. I just wish that a major manufacturer such as Toyota would have opted for a better featured nav system. I also wish that Toyota had given us an option for a factory installed XM/Sirius radio system. I was told by the saleman that the car was "XM-ready." I (mistakenly--and I'll accept blame for this) thought that this meant that a simple add-on of a satellite antenna for ~$50-$100 would provide me with the XM reception. Of course, we all know it's not as simple as that!! And don't get me started on the cheesy way the antenna is mounted...
    That being said, I really like the overall quality of construction as well as some of the "toys" found on the Limited. I especially like the keyless starting system and the laser cruise control. The automatic wiper system is also quite cool.
    So to answer your question, had I known about the absolute deficiency in the nav system, I probably would have looked into either an Acura or Lexus. It may have overcome the major reason I didn't stay with Honda, which is that I didn't like the fact you had to jump to their flagship line (Acura) in order to get something a little bigger in size than the Accord.
  • jwhagenjwhagen Posts: 4
    Are you saying you were able to change the Home Directions while driving a 2006 Avalon? If so, what did you do to allow it to work? Also, can you point me to the backup camera option? Thanks!

    John Hagen
  • topgeartopgear Posts: 111
    I have a white '06 Limited Avalon with the optional DVD Navigation of which I have complained about previously. I wish to amend my negative opinion. Although it is a pain to program, it did serve us well on our recent trip to Orlando Florida. I could find points of interest (of which there were plenty in the Orlando area) and it guided us beautifully. It even brought us "home" again to our hotel repeatedly from our local journies.
    I still wish one could program it while driving and not have to come to a full stop though, -and the joystick method of entering data is still a pain and prone to mistaken-entries. However, I just wanted to say the system served us well.
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