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Infiniti G35 Navigation System

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  • alang4alang4 Member Posts: 40
    I've been reading the owner's manual for my new G35x w/ Prem ad Nav, and it's showing that there's a display setting for the tire pressure. However, I've been through all of the menus and have not been able to find it.

    Is anyone else missing this setting in their car?
  • tcmdotcmdo Member Posts: 6
    What is your workaround?
  • shov8shov8 Member Posts: 87
    Yeah, inquiring minds wanna know!! ;)

    kc
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    KP Technologies is coming out with a new module which will do away with these limitations.
    It requires the removal of the navi motherboard and a few wires have to be soldered in. Yeah, this sounds scary, but I've seen the board and the solder points. The contacts are not too close together and honestly, anyone could do it.

    Once installed, it is only activated by holding the center Enter button on the console for 2 seconds and an audible beep will be heard. Once activated, you will no longer need to hit the Enter button when the car is started to accept the Navi legal agreement and it has other benefits. MusicBox and Navi functions, usually locked out by movement, will no longer be disabled. This means that you will be able to search and enter addresses and POIs, change system settings, as well as scroll through music entries.
    It can disabled at any time by again holding the Enter button for 2 seconds.

    I know it's a little scary to some, but KP Technologies has an awesome track record and offers a lot of nifty little toys to make our cars that much better. Their products are top notch, well tested before being released, and the service and support makes them highly recommended by those who have their products.

    No, I don't work for them, and quite honestly, I'm still on the fence about pulling out my navi unit and soldering things in.
    I'll wait for the guinea pigs who are first in line to go through this, and I'll learn from their mistakes. ;)
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    I've been reading the owner's manual for my new G35x w/ Prem ad Nav, and it's showing that there's a display setting for the tire pressure. However, I've been through all of the menus and have not been able to find it.

    The tire pressure sensors will send a signal to the car if a low pressure situation is detected.
    What you get is a little light on the cluster telling you that a tire is low. The light looks like a low tire with a ! in the center of it.
    You will not see individual pressures for each tire as in the Acura TL, and the light only comes on when a low pressure tire is detected.
  • adamr001adamr001 Member Posts: 95
    Yup, I'm awaiting the results as well. Heck mine's a lease and I'm probably going to do this to it. It's really not that hard a mod. Taking the nav center out is the toughest bit, imo.
  • shov8shov8 Member Posts: 87
    Cool info. I would definitely be interested in doing that, once all the bugs and beta testing have been worked out ;) While the disabled portions are not a "deal-breaker" to me, it would be nice to have everything working, especially when there is a second passenger in the car.

    kc
  • alang4alang4 Member Posts: 40
    This is a good way to invalidate your warranty, IMHO. :confuse:
  • chodgechodge Member Posts: 3
    That is one Infiniti should "borrow" from Acura. It was great seeing the pressure for each tire, and not having to "guess" which tire is causing the problem. I had many opportunities to take advantage of that feature! If only we could get it all in one car.
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    I've been told that there is a flashing sequence to tell you which tire is low, but never having a low pressure issue, I've never seen it first hand.
    This subject came up with rotating tires at home.
    When the tires are rotated, you're supposed to update the computer to tell it which sensor is where.
    I know little about that and honestly don't care.
    I check my tire pressure every other week or so and I have a compressor right in the corner of my garage in case something is a little low.
    The light just tells me to check them right away.
  • alang4alang4 Member Posts: 40
    In addition to missing the tire pressure display, I am also missing some of the voice recognition commands, so I am going to stop at the dealer today for a refresher course.
  • adamr001adamr001 Member Posts: 95
    Over on g35driver.com there's a forum post for the complete list of voice commands for both 07 and 08s. I've printed out a copy and keep it in the glovebox. ;)
  • adamr001adamr001 Member Posts: 95
    Yup, it's kind of silly that they skipped that detail on the TPMS. The information isn't even available with the console in maintenance mode.

    I'm pretty sure the flash sequence is:
    1 = driver's front
    2 = passenger front
    3 = passenger rear
    4 = driver's rear

    But honestly I'd have to break out the manual again and re-read to be sure. :P
  • alang4alang4 Member Posts: 40
    I need some help from the group.....I have a 2-week old G35x with Premium and Nav. I've setup the Alternate Command Mode of voice recognition and gone through all the setup, but I think I am missing some commands, and I need to know if anyone who has an '08 G35x has these commands available. I just need to know if this is happening only to me.

    Basically, they are:

    Temperature
    Tune
    I also don't have the Tire Monitoring selection in any of my menus.

    I downloaded the user's manual, which is specific to model, year and serial number, so I am sure that I have the correct manual and I'm accessing all of the functions that ARE there. I went to the dealership last week to get help, but they are telling me that those functions are not available on my car.

    So....I put it out to the group to see if you all have these functions, before I start making more fuss about this.

    Of course, it doesn't minimize the incredible lust I have for this car!! :P

    Thanks in advance,

    Alan
  • alang4alang4 Member Posts: 40
    Are those commands available in standard mode?
  • jebelljebell Member Posts: 54
    I have the same car. In alternate command mode, those commands are not available. Review prior list messages.
  • cadreamncadreamn Member Posts: 56
    Infiniti removed these commands as part of a maintenance update shortly into the 2008 production year. I went through the same confusion as you - see earlier post. Needless to say, I was a bit disappointed as have been others on this forum. The going recommendation is to file a complaint with Infiniti Consumer Affairs with the hope they will provide an update to restore them.
  • alang4alang4 Member Posts: 40
    Okay, thanks....as long as I know I am not alone, nor going nuts trying to figure this out.
  • hpgatorhpgator Member Posts: 39
    I don't know why Nissan is doing this for movement, but it's really quite annoying. I'm not sure if I'd like to open up my dash (completely voids all warranties if they find out after you screw it up) for that, but can't you just do voice command entry while moving or is that disabled too?
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    Voice commands are available at any time and at any speed.
    The lockout is an annoyance to me though. Not only does it lock out the navi and all it's little side options, but they locked out comfort settings and stereo options as well. Voice commands are avail, but I have not honestly given it the time to learn them all and searching for something while driving has proven to be next to impossible.
    Our other car is an 06 Acura MDX and nothing is disabled. In fact, I could even do my taxes at 80 MPH with the built in calculator if I felt like it.

    Yes, it's a possible problem for some as it could take your attention from the road, but my wife and I enjoy the fact that it's not locked. We let the passenger do the navi work while the driver keep the eyes on the road. On road trips to IL, I drive and she searches for food, hotels, gas stations, etc.

    I'm not worried about warranties too much. I've been elbow deep into enough dashboards to be comfortable with the install.
    Heck, I just pulled my airbag and steering wheel out to install paddle shifters in my G35x. If I'm comfortable with that, a little soldering to a board is gravy.
    Like I said, I'll just let the people who just have to be first in line be the guinea pigs and once any bugs are worked out, I'm all in for the mod.
  • hpgatorhpgator Member Posts: 39
    Well, at least the voice commands are there to input destination and such. I rarely use mine on my current TL, and I must say that it's a bit disappointing to hear that Infiniti locked all that out as I was really. We have a 07 Murano, and it's quite annoying not being able to input anything while moving.

    I can do soldering work and such, but I'd be worried about taking apart my dash unless there were pictures and instructions.
  • adamr001adamr001 Member Posts: 95
    There are several very good howtos with photos even a video somewhere on Youtube.
  • mdchachimdchachi Member Posts: 275
    Why would you make a fuss about the missing commands? On principle, or are there some voice commands missing that you really think you need?
  • alang4alang4 Member Posts: 40
    Is there a way to change to voice of the guidance in the nav system? Is it always female?
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    No option for changing the voice... always female.
    And no Southern or British accents either. :cry: :P
  • waltazwaltaz Member Posts: 163
    I just got a G35 for my wife, and like it so much, I'm considering trading my '06 Pilot w/Nav for an EX35 or an Acura RDX. I didn't get Nav in the G because my wife wouldn't use it, but I definitely like and use it. I'm used to the Honda nav in my Pilot.

    I haven't read through the whole thread, but are you telling me that the nav in the Infiniti is locked out while you're driving, except for voice commands? That would suck, because I, or my passenger, uses it alot while driving for whatever. The Honda/Acura nav is not locked out at all.
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    I also have a Honda product and a new G35.
    Our 06 MDX is completely unlocked and you can access any menu or sub-menu anytime you want.
    In the Infiniti, the sub-menus are locked. What this means is that you access a list of 5 categories, but none of the others in the list... only the top five, since there is no scrolling or drilling in allowed while moving.
    I've gotten around this by learning some commands and by tweaking the lists so the items I use most are within the top five, but you certainly can't scroll through restaurant or hotel lists while moving like you can in the Honda/Acura.

    Comparing the two systems, the Infiniti system is WAY nicer but the Acura is completely unlocked.
  • rag133rag133 Member Posts: 25
    Does the reverse camera have a way to beep when you get close to an object? I had an M3 with the reverse sensor which was great, when you were within a few feet it would beep slowly then go to a solid beep when you were 1 foot way from anything. I do like the camera on the G35 when parking, but is there an audible option for it also which beeps when an object is close to the rear?
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    There is no audible option (which I prefer) but there are lines on the screen that represent how far away from the object you are.
    I guess the audible would be good if you were legally blind.... which may be the same reason why drive up ATMs have brail on the buttons. :confuse:
  • rag133rag133 Member Posts: 25
    Thanks, I only ask because I had to take my driving test again after 15 years for medical reasons, and I had to parallel park, which I can do perfectly fine, but did not want to fail for bumping the damn barrells that I could not see too well since they were perfectly aligned with the rear of the car. I did not practice the test at all, just sorta went and retook it, and they instructor felt the need to cover the NAV screen with his clipboard in the middle of my parking attempt. I'm not used to the camera too, and actually preferred the audible distance control on the M3, especially for the corners of the rear.
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    WTF... that's not fair.
    You have the camera and should be allowed to use it. The fact is that the rear window in the G is pretty high and even with the use of your side mirrors, it's difficult to determine where the rear bumper is.
    No two cars park alike. You have a back-up camera and he has no right in covering it.

    Luckily, when the moron is not in the car with his clipboard, the backup camera works quite well. You can get within less than an inch of your target and it covers most of the width of the car as well. Anything you can't see in the camera, you can see in your side mirrors.
  • alang4alang4 Member Posts: 40
    Has anyone else experienced an episode where the nav system freezes? I got into my 08 G35x, turned it on, and the nav system wouldn't do anything but play the music box song I was listening to when I last got out of the car 3 days ago. The clock had the wrong time, the climate system was off, couldn't do anything with it. I tried pressing a couple of buttons down for a while to try to reboot the system, but eventually it just rebooted on its own.

    Does anyone know of a way to do a manual reboot?
  • tu13estu13es Member Posts: 1
    I'm looking into getting a G35/G37 in the next few months. I can't find much information on the nav system; Infiniti's site has very little info and I haven't been able to find a good extensive review of it.

    I've not owned a car with a nav system, so I don't have much to compare to. It's just quite expensive ($2150), and I'm wondering if I might be able to do better myself with a standalone GPS unit or a carputer.

    I don't really need the traffic stuff much as I'm living/working in the southern NH/northern MA area. I'm not even sure if the traffic stuff would work here.

    The hard drive could be nice for music, but I'm sure I could find a way to hardwire my iPod and do things that way.

    The voice recognition seems like it could be handy. Also, I love the idea of having a touchscreen to control things.

    I'd appreciate any helpful thoughts, advice, or any links to any reviews of the system.

    Thanks, all!
  • zekeman1zekeman1 Member Posts: 422
    I have a G35x w/Nav, backup camera, plus every option one can buy - works great altho you can't use routing while the car is in motion, nor can you watch a DVD while you're driving (I can't imagine why anyone would want to, but some do! A ready supply of potential organ donors :) ). I think it was worth the money for the convenience and have found it very accurate for myself. Some people think it sucks, but it's a personal opinion. My personal opinion is hanging an aftermarket unit on a windshield of a $35K+ car is kinda cheesy.
    Harddrive is nice; it already has a connection for an IPod so you don't have to jury rig things; with XM, CD, AM/FM, Hardrive, SD Card -- I can't imagine why anyone would "want" for more music -- frankly, it's approaching ridiculous.
    Voice recognition is neat, I guess - I don't use it, too quirky and I can manage nicely by straining myself and pushing a button.
    I'm sure many others will chime in and give you their thoughts - remember, it's all a personal choice.
    Z
  • alang4alang4 Member Posts: 40
    I didn't think I wanted the nav system, but after having it now for almost 2 months I wouldn't think twice again. It works great, the voice rec system is awesome and the Music Box means I don't have to have CD's littering the car - plus I have instant access to all those CD's.

    The traffic system is almost useless, IMHO. I will not be renewing the trial subscription.
  • jebelljebell Member Posts: 54
    Absolutely! I used to have a Garmin stuck on the windshield, it worked great (and also got me a ticket for obstruction of vision, in NJ, it is against the law to have stuff on the windshield). The integration of the systems is fantastic and I love the voice recognition, it works well. It is so much better than the Garmin and the screen size is bigger.
  • silvertlsilvertl Member Posts: 8
    I've been a portable nav user since my 5 year old mio and now have a magellan. Hated that I had to get the nav to get the stereo.....however the 2K buys you a lot more than just the nav. Personally I prefer my magellan, but the tech package piggy-backed onto the nav along with the stereo is WELL worth the $. I have a 6 disk "6 pack" in my trunk in a 13 month old car that I have never used...there is that much music storage capability in this thing.
  • sjaievesjaieve Member Posts: 252
    Personally I hate having wires hanging all over my car. The G's interior is very well laid out, why pay the kind of money I sunk into this car and only spoil it with wires or things hanging from the windshield. In any case, you get the HP with the G, why not set it apart from the rest of the cars on the road by adding the creature comforts it comes with. Spoil yourself, I am sure you have worked hard to deserve it
  • sharkman78sharkman78 Member Posts: 10
    So I have a restaurant (lets call it Rooneys) in my Nav locations and want to just say "phone" and "Rooneys" but dont want to enter Rooneys into the phonebook.. Can this wonderful car do it or do I have to enter Rooneys into my phone book?

    thanks
    sharkman
  • sharkman78sharkman78 Member Posts: 10
    nevermind... I see that from the nav screen that has the details of the restaurant, there is a call button....

    sharkman
  • cdreiercdreier Member Posts: 9
    I'm about ready to purchase a G35 Journey with Nav. Does anyone know if there's been a new version of the software released - should I be concerned that I have the latest data, are all G35's being delivered with the most-recent data? Thanks.
  • adamr001adamr001 Member Posts: 95
    Zenrin claims that the latest map updates are due out in May.

    http://www.zenrin.com/infiniti/HDD8/

    As far as changing the command sets / voice commands / etc. Nobody's mentioned a new version of that software afaik.

    If I were buying an 08 right now I'd make the dealer include the first map update (as I did when I bought my 07 in November of 07).
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    On a side note, my friends 08 recognizes some newer CDs that my 07 doesn't know... which causes me to use the MusicBox software to update the info online.

    I'm wondering if the navi update would include a Gracenote DB update as well, or if Infiniti has anything in the works for the Gracenote DB at all.
  • adamr001adamr001 Member Posts: 95
    Now that's a good question! Wish I had an answer... :( Maybe it's time to call ICA again...
  • askalanaskalan Member Posts: 3
    I'm coming off a G35x 39 month lease that had a Nav system. It was a love/hate relationship from the start. It was DVD based, updated twice, and the never ending frustration of the lockouts has me questioning whether to go into another Infinit lease. I'm looking at the EX. Is the NAV system, with it's lockouts, still as frustrating as ever? Has anyone heard if Infiniti will unlock their NAV system for use while driving? Thanks, Alan
  • adamr001adamr001 Member Posts: 95
    No Gracenote update as far as I can tell (had my nav update done last week). The same CDs that didn't identify before still don't identify.

    NAV update is maps only which is both good and bad.

    Good - didn't strip all the extra voice commands out of my 07 compared to what the 08 has

    Bad - didn't update gracenotes and there are roads in a major city (dallas) that have existed for at least 5 years that still aren't on the maps.
  • adamr001adamr001 Member Posts: 95
    Nissan North America (aka Infiniti) still has lockouts while moving on all their NAV systems. That said, you can search for a company called KP Technologies that will help with NAV menu lockouts. They do NOT do video bypasses.
  • benneybbenneyb Member Posts: 19
    Wow, I'm glad I started poking around here. I was close to springing for an '08 G35x lease, and this is the first I'm hearing about Nav lockouts!

    Can you please list some of the specific things you can't do while moving?

    This is an idiotic choice by Infinit. Thanks in advance.
  • askalanaskalan Member Posts: 3
    I've owned a G35x with NAV, for 39 months . Aside from THE "PREMIUM" GAS YOU MUST USE, the NAV system was my biggest gripe.

    Many other NAV systems have a disclaimer for use while driving. The Infiniti (Zenrin programmed) system simply does not care if you have another passenger. They have a disclaimer as well, then they lock you out of almost all usage while moving.

    Pretty much all the functions are locked out or severely limited, in one way or the other, during any type of vehicle movement. If you have addresses saved, only the first few addresses wiill be available to you, during driving. The other addresses won't be avaialble unless you are ata a full stop.

    During movement, one can't search for new routes, one can not search for a new address, (change your mind while on a highway, for example, to go somewhere else) or even search for an ATM or a gas station. You can't even start to your initial destination without having the GPS system programmed with your first destination IN FULL. What a pain.

    One CAN check ones gas mileage while moving and one CAN get a detour route while driving, so I guess the idiots who programmed this system figured, if you are under stress because of bumper to bumper traffic, THEN IT IS OK to use the GPS system. Small minds.

    I had my heart set on an Infiniti EX, when my lease is up in July, but I guess I'll look at the Acura series of cars. Their GPS system does not have any lockouts that I am aware of.

    Good luck!
  • benneybbenneyb Member Posts: 19
    Askalan,

    Thanks for the reply - it sure sounds like they have crippled the damn thing severely. Unbelieveable. This sure changes my thinking on the car. I don't want to depend on some after market device to bypass this, and to have to rip the unit apart to install it.
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