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Volvo C70 Convertible Top Problems



  • Hi!
    I am looking to purchase the C70 T5 within the next day or so. I am just curious as to what you think about yours. If you had a chance to do it over again, would you purchase the same car?

  • Got mine about 10 days ago.... weather has been good so I have been able to do topp down some... The car is GREAT.... Now I am coming off of a 2001 Toyota Solara.... which I also liked... but this car is a huge upgrade... it is much more solid and really just night and day compared to the Solara.... I got silver with black leather, love the dynaudio stereo.. it really does ROCK!!!....
  • I don't know. I haven't driven my car yet! (can you believe it?!) I will take it home in a couple of days. I love it so far (just looking at it and sitting in it). I loved the test drive (not my car but a 2006 C70). My dealership has been great to me and I look forward to continuing my relationship with them. So far the experience has been great but, of course, I can't really answer your question until I've been in my car for at least a drive. Unless the car turns out to be a lemon (seriously doubt it), I'm 99.9% certain that I would pick the same car. I love it.
  • I have had the same issue, 6-8 times per month, since I bought my car in August. I notices the same thing with the rear windows not closing. It's incredibly annoying and dangerous to have to pull over to the side of an interstate whenever this happens. My wife called from her cell phone in a panic a couple weeks ago. I have brought my car into the dealer several times (once while the alarm was still screaming), without resolution. They said Volvo has told them the divider needs to down at ALL TIMES when driving -- which really cuts down on the amount you can carry. And in any event it doesn't fix the problem. The dealer says they're trying to escalate this with Volvo. Stay tuned.
  • I'm sorry you are having the same issue, but yet somewhat relieved to know I'm not the only one. My car was delivered mid-July. With regard to the truck divider, mine is always locked down - you never know when you'll be inspired to drop the roof! However, even if this "solution" worked, I hardly see it as an acceptable solve to our problem... what's the point of having the large cargo area if you are unable to use it while the car is in motion with the the top up?

    My dealer/service center casually asked me to more throughly take note of the events and circumstances leading up to it the next time it happens... as if I wasn't detailed enough... and sort of glossed over the issue. I guess they just need to buy time until they learn of others having this issue and receive a fix from Volvo.

    Fortunately, it has only happened the couple times and thankfully not the 6-8 times per month you have experienced. I'll keep you posted on my progress toward a solution and hope you will keep me advised of yours.

    Until then... happy driving.
  • lemennlemenn Posts: 89
    Hi Macsvmg and Volvo_driver,

    Of course, what you have been told is not correct. There is no problem to drive with the divider placed in up position in order to be able to use the full trunk space.

    So when the roof is up and you use the car as a coupe, you can take advantage of the full trunk space (and believe me it is plenty of space). The only inconvenient is if you decide to put the roof down and use the car as a convertible, when you push the roff down button it does not work (I did it). You see a warning message asking you to place the divider in the down position. You have to exit the car, open the trunk, placethe divider down, and that's it now it will work.

    As a conclusion, there is no problem to use the full space of the trunk.
  • Hi cricket4,

    I noticed in some previous posts in this thread that you were willing to e-mail a brochure, that has more detailed info on roof operation (and maybe on other things as well).

    If it's not too late, and not too much of a bother, could you also e-mail the brochure to me, at [email protected] ?

    Thanks much ! (I tried sending a regular e-mail to you, but it was rejected, since it didn't come from the domain.)
  • I sent it to you via e-mail. (Others also have the brochure and may have beaten me to it.) Hope you get it. Let me know, if not.
  • lemennlemenn Posts: 89
    My mechanic told me one of his customer had water entering via the roof panel separations. He is using the high pressure water system you can find publickly in Europe.

    I did use this method for cleaning my C70 but I don't have this problem.

    So, just to let you know it can happen. Be cautious.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,371
    Yes, one needs to be very careful using high pressure washes. IIRC, Volvo says the tip should get no closer than 13 inches.
  • lemennlemenn Posts: 89
    I would agree with that. It makes sense.

    Anyway for the Half top part of the car you don't really need high pressure because it is mostly glasses and the roof parts.

    You only need high pressure for the half bottom part of the car where most of the dirt is (weels, bumpers, doors).
  • lemennlemenn Posts: 89
    As some of you maybe remember I noticed that the plastic panel on the left back side of my C70 was slightly damaged. I thought it was the roof pusshing to hard on this part when in up position.

    My Volvo support technician replaced the panel but did not do any roof adjustment. he told me is was a pin attachment that broke rising a little bit the panel and creating too much presurre when the roof was up.

    HE also notice one missing "silent block" on the plastic engine cover. He also replaced the part.

    Now my baby is totally like new and ready for the sunny days.

    I was concerned by the French Volvo customer support at first but even with my small volvo dealership they have been very customer oriented and I am totally satisfied with their services.

    All of that for free and they provided me with a Volvo V50 at each time my car was unavailable.

    Not many participants on the forum since few days. Does this mean that there is no problem with the C70 at all anymore???
  • cuccicucci Posts: 49
    Dear Lemenn,

    You realise that your last line is now the 'kiss of death' ..... and we'll all start having problems again!!!? Sincerely hope not!!! All seems well and fairly perfect with ours right now ... although we have had pretty cold and bad weather ... more snow coming in Thursday for London ... so there has been NO roof action!!! Pleased to hear that your problems were all fairly minor and all fixable at no cost! Well done again! Wonder how cricket4 and erisaman are getting on????
  • Erisaman enjoying keeping up to date with you all - and pleased that all is going well with you.

    I've had more spare time lately and have now been able to use the C70 more - and yes, the weather last weekend meant that I covered a few miles with the roof off. Oh - and there were no further dents discovered, despite the roof operation(s).

    I've taken a few more pics but the sky, although blue, doesn't have the hue I'm waiting for.

    One amusing incident - I was driving in a 30mph limit with cruise set at 30 and saw a pedestrian with a child in a pushchair on the pavement, coming towards me. I was in 'coupe mode' (roof up) and noticed this guy staring long and hard at us - obviously perplexed at what was coming towards him. After I had passed him, I checked my rear view mirror and he was still staring whilst still walking, but now turned three quarters of the way around - resulting in the child's pushchair hanging over the edge of the kerb! :lemon:

    Yes, it could have been dangerous but the road was clear behind me so no problem - but I still smile at the thought of these cars turning heads. :)
  • I just got my C70 and am perusing all the forums. I would like a copy of that brochure. My email address is "[email protected]". The weather since I picked up my car has been ugly, and so I'm still driving my older car mostly. I don't want to get any salt on it until I'm down to one car. I think the car is awesome (so far).
  • Good to hear from all of you. The weather is great here. It is 60 degrees today and I'm stuck at work! That's okay b/c I feel an early departure time coming on and I'll at least get to commute home drop top. (I forwarded the brochure silverspyder. Hope you got it. Let me know, if not.) With all the horrible weather, if the roof was going to leak, it would have leaked and it didn't. So that's good news, too. The chip on my roof was a rock chip, I'm pretty sure, because it hasn't re-chipped with all the times I've used the roof since.
  • I am just re-reading my last post and BOY WAS I WRONG!!! I am so unhappy right now that I can't sleep; hence, a post to the forum at 2:40AM. It seems that the paint chip that I thought was caused by a rock was in actuality caused by the roof mechanism!! Earlier I posted that we are having 60 degree weather so I drove around town for about an hour or so with the top down yesterday and afterwards I was examining my car (as I often do) and discovered that the same paint chip spot has been "re-chipped". (Doubt it was hit by another rock in the very same spot.) This time not only is it re-chipped but very near the original chip are small scratches that stretch down the panel and I also found a plastic brown "cap" lodged in the crack of the trunk just below the chipped panel (the "cap" looked new but also like it had been chewed up and split down the side). I think that cap was supposed to be protecting/cushioning whatever it is that has rubbed against the roof panel and caused the paint chip & scratches. I think the cause is not due to the cycle of the roof opening and closing but from parts of the panels rubbing against each other as I hit potholes/bumps in the road when the top is folded on top of itself in the trunk. That's why it hadn't happened from me simply opening & closing the roof earlier but now that I've taken it on a longer road trip with the top down, it happened. Anyway, I'm taking it into the dealership in the morning on my way in to work. I don't think I'll be happy with the panel being painted (in the past when I've had auto body repair work, the paint always faded and never matched the rest of the car). So now, I think I'm not so happy with this car. I hope I change my mind (or Volvo changes my mind) but I would not recommend this car to anyone. I am so unhappy right now. I sincerely hope no one else has this problem. It will make you miserable...
  • Oh Cricket4 - am so sorry to read that last post of yours, I can almost feel your desperation and I truly hope, and genuinely believe, that your dealer/Volvo WILL get it sorted for you - after all, that was why they did a temporary repair until they were convinced that it wouldn't happen again. Well it has - so now they have to kick into action, and I'm sure they will.

    You have made a very valid point about the cause of the damage - it's the movement when the roof is housed within the trunk that is probably the cause, so a superficial check of the roof by opening and then closing it will not reveal the problem.

    You have been such a support to others on this forum, I'm sure we all wish you well, not for our sakes, but you deserve satisfaction on this. Good luck.
  • Cricket4 - I think your assessment of what was happening is probably correct. It has always seemed to me that the greatest chance of damage to the roof paint would be when the three panels are stacked, and in the trunk. As you go over bumps, they might be banging around a bit, unless held securely in place, with appropriate bumpers between panels, etc. If that cracked piece you found laying in your trunk was part of what was supposed to keep the panels separated, then that part missing could easily explain the paint chip.

    In dealing with your dealer service dept., I would want a good explanation of what the little cracked piece was, where it came from, and if it fully explains the paint chip. Then, an explanation of why the little piece cracked and/or fell out in the first place, and what has been done (like an adjustment of some kind) to prevent future cracking of the replacement plastic piece. I suppose it is possible that it just fell off for some reason, and then later cracked, due to falling someplace where it got jammed or pinched by the top mechanism. But it would be good if they showed you where it came from, etc. After the replacement plastic part is installed, they need to operate the top, and perhaps drive over a bumpy road with the top down, to make sure that the new part doesn't break/fail like the original part.

    Finally, they MIGHT be willing to replace the chipped top panel with one that was provided pre-painted. But I doubt this is going to be the case. What you should probably argue for if they can't obtain a pre-painted roof panel is re-painting by the dealer's preferred body shop, of the entire roof panel. Because it is just 1/3 of the roof, painting that one panel should not be a problem for them. They will be able to mask it off from the rest of the roof and body. Obviously it needs to match the other two roof pieces and the rest of the body. But given the newness of the car (and lack of fading), they should be able to get a very good match - aided by the fact that there is a clear panel separation line, and no need to blend in. Don't let them talk you into just painting where the chip was - insist on the full panel. I doubt if it is necessary to re-paint the whole roof - again because of the separation (rubber seal line) between panels.

    I know you are unhappy with things now. But this is a case where they should be able to make things "good as new", if they do the repair the way they should. Good luck!
  • Thanks all for the support. Really means a lot. You are absolutely on point rschliecher. Thanks for the pointers. I am using them when talking to the dealership. My dealership has been great. The sales manager had said earlier (when we thought it was a rock chip) that he would have his ace auto body guy paint the entire panel but wanted to wait until we made sure that it wasn't the roof mechanism. He said even if I waited a year and then wanted to paint it, he would do it at his cost (even when we thought it was a rock chip). I'm glad we waited. (I would be a wreck if we had gone through the trouble and then this happened.) Anyway, the service dept is on the phone with a Volvo engineer regarding this fix. They've been on the phone going back and forth with them all day, today. I'll keep you posted on the problem and the fix once I hear back. Either way, I think you are right about the newness of the car and re-painting... Plus, they told me when I dropped off the car that they wanted to make sure that whatever was done to it was done exactly right. (Guess, they knew just what to say to make me feel better.)

    PS - How ironic is the "Re:" line above?!? LOL.
  • I got a good night's sleep last night. So that means it went really well with the service dept yesterday. Near 5PM, I got a call that my car was ready (except for painting the panel). We will wait for the warmer season to do that (too much moisture and humidity for a good paint job). (It has been dabbed with a black paint pen so it is not so noticeable. He had to dab it to test whether it was fixed.) Plus, I want to wait once again to make sure it is really, really fixed this time. I spoke directly to the foreman mechanic and he actually overheard me when I came in and insisted on showing me the car and exactly what was fixed. (He also said he was the one who fixed my window. And he couldn't believe that I had only 900 miles and these problems.) So he started the roof open cycle and stopped it only after the trunk lid had lifted. That was it. It was the trunk arms that he adjusted. They had been sitting just close enough to the top roof panel that when I hit a bump it tapped the panel. Plus, he said he had to adjust the roof so that it did sit lower in the trunk to make sure there was sufficient space. He said it was sitting a little too high. Here is the strange part, the little clip that I found had nothing to do with this issue... even I was skeptical, but he showed me all the locations that the clip belonged and in every location there was a clip. He said what likely happened is that the clip was damaged during assembly and the factory worker either thought he threw it down or it went flying and who knows where it landed until now. The worker probably just grabbed a new clip and finished his job, leaving the damaged clip floating around in my car until it surfaced. The clip actually holds the trunk lining to the trunk in two places. Both places had clips. Who knows... By the way, I may have been exaggerating about the size of this chip it is about the size of this "O". But since it is sooo white against my black, I see it as huge. Plus the additional scratches near it are no bigger than '''. Okay, so now I love my car again. (Welcome to cricket's roller coaster!) Volvo has changed my mind by doing a good job and I really do love it. This was upsetting but I know this really is a good car.
  • Sigh of relief from across the Atlantic! Am pleased for you.
  • lemennlemenn Posts: 89
    I am glad to see you have found a solution to the problem.
  • I am also very pleased to hear that your problem was corrected properly. I wonder if there's any way for the rest of us to determine whether the roof panels are too close to the trunk arms. If the dealer was able to adjust it, is there a chance that any C70 can slip out of adjustment? Where's volvomax. We need his assurance on this matter. I don't have my C70 yet, but I want to avoid what happened to you, cricket4, when it's delivered. Thanks for sharing.
  • cuccicucci Posts: 49
    My computer has been down all week ... and so I've only just come back on line ... and what a week you've all had!!! But glad to hear that everyone's problems are slowly getting sorted. Weather still bad in London ... but as soon as we can .... we're going to get the roof down and drive around a bit ... to see if we have problems also! I know how you felt about 'not loving' the car for a while ... when ours was towed away before Christmas I just felt 'good riddance to bad rubbish' I was sooo upset ... but it is amazing how things turn around and you start loving the car again ..... just like life and relationships .... which, of course, is exactly what this is I suppose!!!! Support is flying back and forth across the Atlantic!
  • yegayega Posts: 6
    Hi cricket4,

    If you're still reading these forums: Would you be so kind as to send me a copy of the brochure "All-New Volvo C70 Tips - Guide to MY07 All-New Volvo C70 Features, Functions, and Use"

    Thanks in advance,
  • I sent the brochure from my e-mail address [email protected] Let me know if you don't get it.
  • yegayega Posts: 6
    Hi all,

    I've come to the point where I'm seriously thinking of buying a C70.

    I still have 1 last concern though: I live in Belgium, which is known for it's rainy weather. I'm wondering how the C70's roof copes with heavy rain/carwash. I've read some user-reviews of people complaining of water-leaks (If I remember right, these were all MY2006).

    Are there C70-owners here who can comment on this:
    Does your C70 sleep under an open sky? If so, did you notice any water leaks after a rainshower?
    Ever washed your C70 in a carwash?

    Thanks in advance for your comments.
  • yegayega Posts: 6
    Thanks a million cricket4, I tried to sent you a 'thank you' mail, but it bounced, since you're only accepting mails from @carspace-account.

    Anyway, thanks for the tips&tricks document.
  • henkbwhenkbw Posts: 22
    Hi Yega,

    The only case of water leakage of the roof I heard of, is from a guy on a german forum ( :cry:
    Too bad for him, good news for the rest of us. :)
    I park my car in my garage EVERY night and NEVER clean my car in a car wash or with a high pressure water cleaner. I'm much to much afraid of damages (to the roof mechanism or the paint).
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