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made the mistake of telling him that I could get the car for $18,600 in Dallas with the tint, but I refuse to get the car here because of that and that you had gotten the car for $15, 987. (I will pay the TX state taxes here.)
Help! Is this a good price? He said that Honda manufacturing is telling the dealerships that this is the best that they can do. He said that I can wait until late August and the price might drop when the 2009s come in, but there might not be any cars left.
Any opinons on what I should do, please?
Some of the dealers didn't respond at all, I received quotes ranging from $17,184 to $18,430. I chose the dealer with the lowest combined fees, Babylon Honda.
Bronx Honda also appeared to be a good deal but they didn't have silver in stock.
Paramus Honda was also very attractive because they had pretty competitive prices and a number of benefits for internet customers such as free key replacement....HOWEVER, at the end of the day I went with the lowest price.
Here's from my bill of sale from Babylon Honda:
17,269.00 LX AT Civic (includes destination charges)
1,273.59 Sales tax
130.00 NY Registration Fees
67.50 Document Fee/Waste Tire Fee
18740.09 TOTAL INCLUDING TAX
Quite a bit of variance in dealer fees. The information below is correct to the best of my knowledge. In cases where the dealership didn't respond about NY DMV fees, I used the highest quoted fee of $228, so the actual fee may be less.
Dealer State Emailed LX AT Price Destination Fee NY DMV Fee Fees Total W/Trunk Liner Combined Fees
Paramus Honda NJ Yes $17,184 $0 $215 $199 $17,598 $17,718 $414
Babylon Honda NY Yes $17,269 $0 $228 $0 $17,497 $228
Bronx Honda NY Yes $17,500 $0 $0 $0 $17,500 $17,500 $0
Paul Miller Honda West Caldwell NJ Yes $17,519 $200 $199 $17,918 $399
Sussex Honda NJ Yes $17,734 $0 $228 c $17,962 $18,076 $228
Potamkin Honda NY Yes $17,760 $670 $228 ? $18,658 $898
Curry Honda Yorktown NY Yes $17,869 $228 included $18,097 $18,214 $228
Princeton Honda NJ Yes $18,395 $228 $197 $18,820 $18,928 $425
Hudson Honda NJ Yes $18,430 $228 $199 $18,857 $18,972 $427
Good Luck everyone!
I live in Dallas-Tx...Can you tell me the name of the dealer?
Unfortunately the dealers here in Dallas are not very cooperative.
Any suggestions?
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also, i got quoted for 16,800 for a civic LX coupe.
i was in a rush to get the car so i didn't have time to haggle too much. so i think that these prices should be pretty easy to get.
good luck guys.
2008 Honda Civic Coupe Automatic 2008 Honda Civic Coupe Manual
LX $16,501.00 LX $15,767.00
EX $18,290.00 EX $17,556.00
EX/NAV $19,895.00 EX/NAV $19,161.00
EXL $19,390.00 EXL $18,656.00
EXL/NAV $20,995.00 EXL/NAV $20,262.00
Can I have the name of the salesman or his/her Email?
Thanks,
I've ordered my car but it won't be delivered until the begining of Aug. I'm guessing there will not be anything on the civic- as least sedan- but hopeful.
The salesperson we dealt with was in the Internet Sales department. You can go to the Rusty Wallis website and find pictures and email addresses of the sales reps in that dept. (I'm not sure the person we dealt with is still there, even if I could share her name.)
Just some background on our car-shopping experience... I contacted a number of Honda dealers in the Dallas / Fort Worth area by email. I asked for two things: (1) A bottom-line quote; and, (2) No phone calls. Rusty Wallis was the ONLY dealer that responded quickly AND gave me what I asked for (a quote and no phone calls). By coincidence, thankfully, they also had the lowest price. I was hooked; but I used my next lowest quote (from David McDavid in Irving) as leverage to hold Rusty Wallis to their quoted price. All of the negotiating took place via email. I only showed up to the dealership to do the paperwork. (McDavid claimed they would beat any lower price I received, but the difference was so small it wasn't worth it to me. I appreciated the fact that Rusty Wallis honored my request for no phone calls. McDavid called me almost immediately after I emailed them.)
The only snag in the whole deal was Rusty Wallis didn't have the car we wanted the day we went to pick it up. They gave us a loaner and we picked our car up the next day.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
-Email every dealer within a 2 hour radius and state very specifically that you only want to do business via email.
-Do not give your real telephone number AND MAKE IT LOOK AS FAKE AS POSSIBLE. You don't want to make the dealer angry by letting him call a real person. I use 123-456-7890.
-You have to be responsive and check your own email as much as possible. The reason why dealers will give an internet customer a good deal is because they don't cost much manpower. We show up and pay on an already negotiated price.
You want to make it as easy as possible for the dealer to want to give you a good price. So what you need to do is write an email that includes EXACTLY what you are looking for color/Trim/Accessories, etc.
-Then you "spam all the dealers" by going to their websites and sending the same exact email.
-Create a list on paper or a spreadsheet that includes all the fees/taxes/dmv/accessories, everything possible all broken out. Lots of dealers will give you a great quote and then give you $1k extra in destination charges, document fees, and prep fees.
-When you get the emailed quotes back, make sure you follow up each and every quote with an email that says something like, "This includes ALL fees (destination, prep, document), right?" Then the dealer will usually elaborate. Not many dealers give you exactly what you ask for on the first try.
-Whenever speaking on the phone (which I avoid) always ask to speak to the "Internet sales manager".
-The reason this works is because you are getting so many dealers to compete...if you do the "legwork" you'll definitely get a good price.
Some dealers won't respond. Some dealers will, you are going to get a good price only based on how many dealers you contact, it's all about doing the legwork.
-Make sure you print out the emailed quote and bring it with you to the dealership, if they don't honor the price, leave.
-When you get to the dealership, ask for the "Internet Sales Manger or your email contact"
Good luck!
Inventories are down to almost nothing at this point.
We are the largest volume dealer in nine states and we have ZERO EX AT sedans at this point and I think we have three in transit. Two of those three are already sold.
I think we may have three or four LX sedans in stock.
I agree with making your phony phone number look fake. Some people will pick a number at random. I know I have bothered a lot of people when I have called these phony numbers.
I have a suggestion too. Instead of going through the process of all of this work and pitting one dealer against others, why not just ask a family menber, co worker or friend for a referral?
If you see someone loading groceries into a new Civic, why not ask them where they bought it and how their experience was?
There is more to the purchase than the PRICE and you probably won't pay more anyway. We love referral business and we will go the extra mile for these customers.
I love bologna!
I just scored a super deal on an Elantra and am currently in the process of scoring a great deal on a Civic for my sister! When I asked several Hyundai dealerships if they could beat the price I was quoted, I felt belittled, as though they were accusing me of lying about the offer I was given. In my mind that made me feel good about the deal I was getting - but they didnt need to make crude remarks about the dealer where I made the purchase. In this economy it is ALL ABOUT PRICE!
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Too bad you can't tell the difference between bologna and reality.
Just sold our LAST LX AT sedan. We are out now. same with EX sedan automatics. We have a handful arriving next week and most of those have been pre-sold.
I'm really not enjoying this.
The Sandman :confuse:
He is so biased. He acts as though he know all. He isn't knowledgeable about all areas of the country. People consistently are getting better deals than what he is saying is the market price.
I do hear a lot and I understand inventories are pretty slim universally.
Out of curosity, I just pulled up a nearby state that must have 100 Honda Dealers and they sure didn't have many cars to sell either.
As I said, this isn't enjoyable for me. Not at all and I hope things get better fast!
SI's have never been huge sellers. They cost more, get worse gas mileage and require premimum. Deals can be had on these especially the sedans.
Should I look for another dealer? Can I get my deposit check back? :mad:
Was it your choice to pick a different color? If so, it's not their fault.
You can probably get your deposit check back but would you really want to re-start this process somewhere else?
with $18,331 OTD. I think it was pretty good deal. I know there are people who bought it at under $18k OTD on this forum, but it will be hard to get that price these days in the state of illinois or indiana. (i requested email quote to almost 20 dealerships)
Honda on Grand is a good place. They may not provide the lowest quote at first, but just bring the cheapest internet price quote you got from other dealership, then they will match it. No haggling and no waste of time. I first visited Carr's Honda (because I heard some people got a good deal there on civic), but i end up buying in Honda on Grand because of my huge disappointment at Carr's Honda. This dealer was saying there is a mark up of plus $2000 on civic and he was trying to sell me at over $20k. It was a complete lie.
I recommend Honda on Grand for people live in illinois or indiana.
Don't go to Carr's Honda. You will waste your time and become angry.
I also considered O'Hare Honda as well, only because they had a civic color of my first choice. (their vehicle price was at MSRP) then later that day, the dealer told me and he said if he adds destination fee, it will be $19100....for the civic. (this is not OTD)
Seriously, don't get conned by these liars.
Can you please send us some Civics?
Geez..supplies are short and we all get grumpy!
You picked the one I wold have bought except my wife wouldn't put up with the 5 speed like I would.
Enjoy!
you mention about 18500 OTD from serramonte and el cerrito, can you break down the price and how and who should i contact? thanks.. i am looking for an LX now around bay area.
He needs to quit giving the same old junk about supply and demand every time.