Nissan Altima

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  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Member Posts: 1,007
    A superior and much cooler car in every way. Head to the Mazda 6 discussion - lots of links.

    Let the vs. wars begin, they're always fun - especially because Nissan and Mazda are the only two manufacturers who give a &^%*& any more (IMO)
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    Both Nissan and Mazda are pretty desperate to make money, so instead of going *absolutely* mainstream and catering only to Camry/Accord owners, who value a cut-rate luxo ride and solid driving dyanmics over a family sports sedan, both are trying to differentiate their product and avoid going head to head with the Titans. Nissan has done a fine job thus far, it will be interesting to see how Mazda fares in the battle. All but lost among the titans and the up and coming warriors, at least in this class: Mitsubishi, Saturn, Ford
  • dcmikedcmike Member Posts: 53
    Anybody know when the 2003 Altima will be in showrooms? I was looking at an 02 Maxima GLE until I drove the 3.5SE. It was a perfect fit. Have read about the interior improvements for 2003, trying to decide if I should wait on my purchase. Any word yet? Looking to purchase in July. Thanks! FYI - Have gotten a quote of $26,000 for a loaded 02 3.5 SE. Seem like a good price?
  • phillyguy3phillyguy3 Member Posts: 88
    Dealers just got their last shipments of 02 Altimas. Typically, Nissan gives them 3-4 months to run them out, which probably means end SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER. Other than colors,most changes are supposed to be Interior materials. I am picking up my 02 2.5SL this week. Can't wait for 03's since my lease is up. Re: Maxima-03's are coming in now with minor changes since major overhaul in 04's due in March. New MAX will be larger and more luxurious and expensive to separate from 3.5 Altima.BTW, 02 Altima going around invoice so price difference on 03's will be more pronounced.
  • ahossaahossa Member Posts: 152
    I am also waiting to see what improvementsthey are going to make. I want to know if they are going to do something about the road noise that's prevalent right now in the current model.
  • schweikbschweikb Member Posts: 111
    I just took delivery of a 2002 Altima 2.5S and it is quieter, virtually rattle-free, and the doors slam better and materials look better than earlier models I saw/drovein. Could it be Nissan improved some of the areas as the model year went along? Does anyone know how to figure out when the car was produced?
  • schweikbschweikb Member Posts: 111
    Answeing my own previous ques. I called Nissan cut svce and they told me the production date was 4/15/02. This sounds like a fairly late in the model year date, so it may explain why some of the bad points I had heard about 02 Altimas seem not to exist (yet) in my car. I am really impressed how little road noise makes its way into the cabin, and how solid the doors fel and sound (both items that were slammed by the automotive press).
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    ...that has the production date, at least by month and year. This is a legal requirement.
  • dcmikedcmike Member Posts: 53
    Okay, I got a great offer today on a 2002 3.5SE - $25, 750 fully loaded (all but the fake wood). I really want the Sheer Silver, but the wife hates the Charcoal interior. Does Nissan make a Sheer Silver 3.5SE with Frost cloth interior? If so, how does it look? BTW - the offer was for a Mystic Emerald with Frost leather...
  • kelly523kelly523 Member Posts: 18
    According to the Altima brochure, you can get the frost cloth on the 3.5 silver SE. I have the frost cloth on my 2.5 opal blue S, and really like the color. I would think that it would also go well with the silver - smooth transition from paint color to interior color. Hope this helps.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    The Altima 3.5SE can be optioned with the frost cloth interior, but not Frost leather. Frost is not available in leather on any model. Either the Mystic Emerald model you looked at had Blond leather or dealer-installed leather trim. I think the majority of owners of all the new Altimas have the Sheer Silver color, I personally think it's the blandest color of them all. JMO! :) Does the wife like the Silver color? Frost is a very bright and light gray color, almost white-looking at times. I saw an Altima a while back that was Sheer Silver with Frost, and the frost color was so bright, it was reflecting from the sun, and I am NOT joking here. It's a nice looking color, and if I get an Altima with cloth, Frost is the ONLY color I prefer. JMO Hope this helps.
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
    My Altima is silver! I think it looks great! :-P

    If I had it to do all over again though, I'd give serious thought to the Opal Blue and Ruby colors. There are too many silver Altimas around.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    It seems like most Altimas I see on the road (I live in the DC/MD/VA area) are either the light blue color or silver.

    It might have to do with the fact that they are light colors, reducing heat in the summer and also being easier to keep clean. I know my silver car (when I had it) was very easy to keep clean. The white one I have now is not too hard either.
  • lsclsc Member Posts: 210
    too many on the road, including mine. you may want to consider another color.

    i would have bought black if I knew Silver was going to be this popular.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I had a black car once, never again! It was so hot, I had to have the windows tinted to reduce the heat buildup and make the AC work more effectively (this was a 2001 Protege). And it's so hard to keep clean as well, and every little scratch, mark, etc. shows on the car's body.
  • sauron666sauron666 Member Posts: 12
    see my comments in Altima problems, item 146. In a sentence, the Continentals suck.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    ...well, I was trying to be diplomatic. I would never take delivery of another car with Contis as OEM. Long story, short response...
  • ahossaahossa Member Posts: 152
    DCMIKE: Silver is the in color in any brand. There are so many silver Rav4,MB,Camrys, Altimas,even Hyundais. Your wife is right. The black interior attracts a lot of dust. The frost is cool. The blond interior is okay too.The least available color is Mystic Emerald. Nissan works a bit differently that most manufacturers. The dealer gets to choose the colors he wants to carry and in the NYC area they are not ordering Mystic Emerald. THe top 2 colors in Altimas in NYC are Silver and Pewter then White.
  • ahossaahossa Member Posts: 152
    Jrct9454:What brand tires would you have preferred on the Altimas?Would they have reduced the road noise that you hear on treaded roads?
  • dcmikedcmike Member Posts: 53
    Thanks for all the responses. What I hope to do is purchase the 3.5 Sheer Silver with Frost Cloth, then install aftermarket gray leather (which is why I need the Frost interior). I sent out a blast e-mail (via Edmunds) for pricing - it looks like a lot of dealers in the MD/DC area are working from invoice. I'll keep you posted. So far the best offer is $25,750 for what I want.

    For all of you 3.5 SE owners out there - is premium fuel recommended or required?

    For all of you Altima owners, any regrets on your purchase?
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    ...will vary a bit from one tire to the next, but it is rare the differences will be dramatic. Most road noise issues have to be solved by the carmaker paying more attention to sound deadening.

    Having said that, my favorites in the tire business are Michelin, Bridgestone, and Dunlop, probably in that order. That generalization hides a multitude of complicated details, however, because there are so many models of touring tires in the H and V ratings to choose from in the sizes that Nissan has chosen for the Altima.

    The only virtue the Contis bring to the table is that they are dirt cheap as OEM to the factory. Michelin just opted out of bidding any more on GM-Europe's business because GM wanted the price for OEM tires so low that Michelin felt it couldn't make a profit selling in volume at those levels.

    Honda generally does the best job of picking quality OEM tires for their cars, and yes, that includes the Firestones on the Civics that are nothing more than a Bridgestone design with a FS label. Toyota is one of the worst, especially with the shotgun approach they take with the tires on the Camry. You could wind up with any one of 5 brands/models of tires on the Camry, and there appears to be no rationale other than what was coming in the factory door at that hour when the car was built.
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
    Premium fuel is recommended for the Altima 3.5. You can run regular in it, but you will lose HP and MPG.

    I've had my Altima for 6 months now, and I have no regrets whatsoever. I'm really enjoying my car.
  • lsclsc Member Posts: 210
    there is something out there regarding the reflection of the dash on the windshield that makes it hard to see on a sunny day. This is somewhat true on the black interior but more so on the frost. Make sure you check this out before buying it.
  • dcmikedcmike Member Posts: 53
    Thanks for all of the feedback. The buyer for my Accord fell through, so my purchase is hold for the time being. Hopefully I'll be joining the Altima family soon!
  • naurnaur Member Posts: 1
    I am looking to buy an Altima. Can someone tell me what you mean when you say the car is selling for a figure over list? Does that include the options? In other words, if the base price is 18,000 on the sticker, are folks paying $500.00 over that price? This is the first time I am buying a car on my own. Thanks
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    Do not pay the sticker price for your new car! NEVER EVER DO THAT! Over list means in most cases that you got the car for $XXX amounts over what the dealer buys it for (aka Invoice.) MSRP is the manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, nobody pays that price, and to pay over the MSRP for an Altima would be very unwise. First, when you go in to buy your car, act informed, if you don't the dealers will get you in a trap, and quick. I go to the dealerships all the time, and each time I go they try to play those mind games, it's a shame I know more about their cars than they do, and I am only 16! Here is the deal. Say I wanted to get an Altima 2.5S with:

    5spd manual
    Convenience pkg.
    ABS

    $17,011(Invoice)
    540(Destination)
    1,457(Convenience pkg.)
    + 693(ABS with side airbags)
    = $19701

    In this case, say I want to pay $400 over list, then the price is $20,101

    If I were to go by the sticker, and pay $500 over it, the price would have been:

    $18,499(MSRP)
    540(Destination)
    1,679(Conveience pkg. MSRP)
    799(ABS with Side airbags MSRP)
    =$21,517+500(over MSRP)=$22,017

    That's a savings of: $1,916

    $22,017-$20,101= $1,916

    I hope this helps you out.
  • ahossaahossa Member Posts: 152
    are there so many satisfied Altimas owners that they are not using this board? No problems.
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
    Check out www.altimas.net for a more active Altima forum.
  • steven39steven39 Member Posts: 636
    yes this is true, unlike the vw jetta forum which is filled with nothing but horror stories regarding the jetta.
  • lsclsc Member Posts: 210
    The air bag light and sun roof assembly had been repaired under warranty about 2 months ago.

    Since then there have been no problems.

    I'm thinking of replacing the factory speakers. I don't have the Bose and the sound has become less than satisfactory. Anyone else change their speakers?
  • phillyguy3phillyguy3 Member Posts: 88
    Picked up my SL a week ago and took it on several driving trips. Only two issues so far. The engine vibrates with AC on and car stopped at light and the suspension seems a bit bouncy especially on dips.Got the Conti tires and they seem just fine. Lots of compliments from friends, particularly the roominess, comfort, Bose system, value and ,of course, style. I'll take it to dealer on first oil change to confront issues.Four cyl handles most driving conditions quite well. Got thirty mpg on highway and twenty six combined driving,a welcome relief from my gas guzzling Pathfinder.
  • ahossaahossa Member Posts: 152
    I don't own an Altima but I know that the suspension is a bit stiff because of the new multi-link rear suspension that's a bit taut. I think they are going to adjust this in the 03 model because the magagzines complained about this too.It's even stiffer on the 3.5se.
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Member Posts: 1,007
    Then what will differentiate the Altima from boats-on-land such as Buicks, or Hondas or Toyotas?

    They sell only because they have a certain edge (as do mazda's products) and handle well, without sacrificing too much ride quality. If you expect them to wallow about like Lincolns or Tauruses or Accords, then no one will buy them any more!
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
    I think they should offer a luxury trim (SLE?) in the V6 model with a softer suspension. That way Nissan can satisfy both the performance buyer with the SE and the luxury buyer with the SLE. Of course, this would take an even bigger bite out of Maxima sales...
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    For those of you who are interested, Car and Driver's Aug issue features a very well written, succinct "Short Take" article on the Alti 3.5SE
    5-speed. They were able the match the 6.3 seconds to 60 that Motor Trend (my least favorite mainstream mag) acheived when the car first came out.
    ~alpha
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
  • bunkbunk Member Posts: 66
    I thought it was such a big deal that so many were up talking the Nissan for it's great horsepower and acceleration, but what the heck? I saw on edmunds that the Nissan Altima 3.5 had a 0 to 60 of 7.3 seconds and the Accord V6 Coupe was at 7.5, is that really a big deal?? I am speaking about the auto trans. I know that some have complained about the Accords road noise, and I don't know how bad the Altima's is, but it seems that many have said it was pretty noisy. I know the Altima is supposed to have great grip, but wouldn't different tires on the Accord Coupe change it's grip? Handling was an issue for some with the Accord, but I have heard complaints about the steering of the Altima. No has said that the Altima's build quality was all that great and most agree that Honda's is one of the best. Some complain about the ride of the Accord, but I have heard that the ride on the Altima is not so great either. Ok, so that brings it down to the fact that the Honda has a lot of body roll and I have not heard that about the Altima, is that really that big of a deal? I would like to know? I want to know why so many are making it sound like the Altima is so much better than the Accord?
  • speedracer3speedracer3 Member Posts: 650
    The Altima and Accord are both very competent. What you will get in an Altima is "sport sedan" handling and driving experience. The Accord is more of a family sedan.
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
    Compare times from comparison tests. The numbers will be more accurate because the cars are tested at the same time, thus controlling for weather conditions, tracks, drivers, etc. Both C/D and Motor Trend ran comparison tests a few months back of family sedans, and in both tests the Altima was at least a second faster 0-60 and 1/4-mile than the Accord V6, both with auto transmissions. Just try test-driving the two; you'll notice a HUGE difference!
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    The Car and Driver comparision test shows the Altima at 7.3 seconds to 60 and the Accord LX V6 Sedan at 8.3. More importantly, bunk, is to look at Street Start times and Passing measures- these are the numbers that you and I would likely experience in the real world. Also consider the natural variences in engines and with age... most "green" engines perform worse than ones that are broken-in.
    ~alpha
  • cfocfocfocfo Member Posts: 147
    How important is 0 to 60 on my list ?

    Quality
    Ride comfort and interior functionality
    MPG
    Value / Total Car expenditures - Long term
    Dependability
    Dealer cust service
    ...
    ...
    ...
    Beating my neighbor to the next red light

    If it takes me 10 + seconds to merge onto the highway, that's OK. I'll pass you later.

    NOW, for the "need for speed" folks, anyone get the new Altima over 110 ? How does it handle ?
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    A point well taken, cfocfo. But.... in the real world, being able to merge assertively on to the freeway is a necessity, especially when people are driving their families around. Lets say that you floored your car and it did indeed take 10+ seconds to go from 30-50 after an on ramp- you'd notice it, and not want to ever have to make that merge again. In many situations, being able to accelerate is just as much a safety feature as having strong brakes.
    ~alpha
  • cfocfocfocfo Member Posts: 147
    There are definitely moments when some "jump" is appreciated ! I just like to stay away from the gas station as long as I can.
  • obiwankenobi1obiwankenobi1 Member Posts: 290
    I got my 02 Maxima SE up to 120mph and that thing is as smooth as butter. The engine is still quiet!!!

    Man, do I love my Nissan!!
  • speedracer3speedracer3 Member Posts: 650
    Cool, how expensive was the speeding ticket and how many nights in jail did you spend. Did they use pepper spray or just a night stick??. (laughing). That's fast dude, where'd you do that?.
  • tuotituoti Member Posts: 5
    Anyone heard when the new '03 Altimas are going to be out? Or does anyone have any info on the changes for the new year?
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
    Here are the rumored changes for the '03 Altima. Someone posted this at Altimas.net saying it was from the fleet buyer's guide. Can't vouch for its accuracy, but everything seems pretty reasonable:

    Whats New?
    Trim Level
    * 2.5 SL trim level is a new package (2.5 SL Package)

    Mechanical Feature
    * Improved 3.5-liter V6 engine (3.5 SE)
    - Horsepower increased

    Exterior Features
    * Two new colors available:
    - Sonoma Sunset
    - Crystal Blue
    * Nouveau Ruby and Opal Blue Metallic no longer available

    Interior Features
    * Rear coat hooks
    * Padded, cloth cover on front center armrest
    (leather on leather-equipped models)
    * Bright titanium-tinted interior accent colors
    * Improved texture quality on specific interior pieces
    * New charcoal-color seat fabric
  • tuotituoti Member Posts: 5
    I hope they don't sacrifice the torque to up the HP numbers. 240 HP is still class leading but torque is what sits you back in your seat when accelerating.

    I like both the Ruby and the Opal Blue colors although the Opal Blue cars always look "spotty". Dark patches, then light patches if you know what I mean. Too bad as those are nice colors.

    Good news about the interior as well - if they could just replace some of the hard plastic with the kind of material that feels a bit softer but still looks the same - I can't describe it very well but it's the same stuff as is in my Expedition.

    Still would love to know when the '03's are gonna be out - I need a car pretty quick but I want to wait for these. However, if I'm looking at a November time frame, I may have to break down. Didn't the '02's come out in September last year?
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    Here's what I heard:

    2.5S:
    2.5S is available with three Convenience pkgs.
    Con. pkg.(same as 2002)
    Con. Plus pkg. (Con. pkg plus Sunroof.)
    Prem. Con. Pkg. (Con. Pkg plus Sunroof and BOSE.)

    ABS is still optional on the 2.5S

    2.5SL:
    2.5SL will stay as a current model, BUT it loses the 5spd manual model. It was a rare seller anyway.

    New standard features include heated front seats and outside mirrors, automatic temp. control

    ABS is still optional

    You can get either the regluar 2.5SL, a 2.5SL with Sunroof, or the 2.5SL with Sunroof and ABS

    3.5SE: No standard feature changes
    Optional Pkgs change though

    Leather pkg. adds sunroof, heated front seats and outside mirrors

    Prem. Leather pkg. Has the wood trim added, I hope it looks better.

    Sport Pkg.: Sunroof and Spoiler

    Sports Plus Pkg.: Sunroof, Spoiler, BOSE, Hids

    Leather Sports Pkg: Leather pkg plus Spoiler, Hids

    I hope this helps. The source from FA stats that the new Colors in the above post will replace Opal Blue and Noveau Ruby(My favorite color.)
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
    From NissanNews.com (Nissan's official press site):


    The all-new third generation Altima was introduced as a 2002 model with a totally new exterior, interior with increases in all major dimensions, along with a totally new platform. It also introduced, for the first time, a choice of 4-cylinder or V6 engines. Altima was named the 2002 North American Car of the Year and has enjoyed record sales throughout its first year. For 2003, several minor enhancements have been made to the interior, while a new packaging system has simplified the option choices for customers.


    Enhancements to the 2003 Altima include:

    · New charcoal seat fabric (late availability), padded cloth front center armrest cover (genuine leather on leather-equipped vehicles), bright titanium interior accent colors for all models

    · Two new exterior colors - Sonoma Sunset and Crystal Blue

    · Standard automatic transmission, heated front seats, heated outside mirrors and simulated wood trim for 2.5 SL

    · New 3.5 SE Sport Package, which includes sunroof and spoiler

    · New 3.5 SE Sport Package Plus, which includes sunroof, spoiler, Bose® audio system and xenon headlights

    · 3.5 SE Leather Package now includes Bose® audio system, sunroof and Cold Package

    · New 3.5 SE Leather Sport Package, which includes Leather Package, spoiler and xenon headlights

    · New 3.5 SE Premium Leather Package, which includes Leather Sport Package, plus simulated wood trim

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