Nissan Altima

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  • malibu_jackmalibu_jack Member Posts: 75
    I drive a 2001 Nissan Sentra right now....It was my First Nissan and I was looking forward to upgrading to the New Altima....Unfortunately, My mind has changed since I have not received good service from any of the Dealers out here on my Sentra. There are three dealers in the City and they all jacked me around to the point that I am too frusterated to go through it again with another Nissan. Its too bad because I do really like the car (altima), however what good is it if you can't rely on your dealer. I was going through the Lemon Aid guide (author: Phil Edmonston), and the Altima was a Recommended vehicle, but replacements parts are expected to be costly and all major servicing to be done only by Authorized Nissan Dealers.
  • ultimaultima Member Posts: 96
    Respectfully, I went to Phil Edmonston's (Lemon Aid Guide) website...

    Yes, the Altima is mentioned -- as is the Accord, Camry, and all kinds of cars from Ford, GM, etc.

    Moreover, the site states the Altima tires are hard to find and "...won't be available at Nissan dealers until mid-2003."

    First, who buys tires from the DEALER anyway?

    Second, I KNOW the Tire Rack (www.tirerack.com) has had the OEM tires since at least Jan, 2002.

    Thus, I don't know if I'd make my car buying decisions based on the "Lemon Aid Guide". Your experience with Nissan Dealers in your area, however, is a separate issue -- and I can't say I blame you for being ticked-off enough not to buy because of that experience.

    I, however, have had pretty good luck with Santa Monica Nissan here in Los Angeles -- but then again, I've not had anything go wrong... Just had to take the car back to them for the aftermarket leather and the airbag sensor notice they sent me.
  • dcmikedcmike Member Posts: 53
    Boy did I make a mistake! I chose the Camry over the Altima, and can't wait to get rid of that junk! After numerous rattles, squeaks, shifting seats, recalls and leaks - I am finally selling that thing. Looking to buy an 03 Altima SL in Maryland / DC area. Any good suggestions or things that I should be aware of? I should have known better - the Altima's 4 cylinder has about the same as my Camry's V6!
  • ultimaultima Member Posts: 96
    Personally, many folks who purchased the 4-cyl Altima (to save gas) have later wished they got the V6. There isn't that much of a differnce in the mileage, and -- while Nissan "suggests" running PREMIUM gas -- I've run mine on 89 without ANY problems... If you're going to "hod rod" around, though, then Premium gas is the way to go.

    Also, if you don't need the ROOM of the Altima, I'd also suggest you look at (in no particular order):

    - Accord Coupe
    - Mazda 6
    - Acura TSX
    - Used G35
    - Used Maxima
  • cayennered1cayennered1 Member Posts: 193
    I am one who has no regrets about not getting the V6. I came to the Altima 4 cyl. from a V6 Galant which I felt had more than enough power (190hp). Driving the 4 cyl. Altima I find the performance every bit as good and the engine is actually quieter.

    Obviously the V6 is faster but its a lot more expensive too. I love my 2.5S and see no reason for an engine upgrade.
  • malibu_jackmalibu_jack Member Posts: 75
    Well...I guess most of the problems I have been experiencing with my Sentra are as a result of an accident I had with the car the first year we had it. :(

    To make a long story short, I ran into a curb (brakes locked), which cause about $5000 damage to the front driver side (wheel, drive shaft, fender, light assembly, hood, the whole nine yards). Although Nissan did a fine job at fixing my car (4 weeks later with no rental), a lot of issue are creeping out of the wood work right now....especially tranmission thunking when the auto shifts from second to third.

    Accident aside, most of my issues are more on the idea that my dealer(s) charges me $25 per problem they cannot reproduce. This doesn't seem right to me. Are US Nissan Dealers like this? The last time I took my car in, I tried Walkley Nissan in Ottawa to have my brakes inspected and to have a couple of warrenty items looked at. The car sat on the lot from 7:30am to 4:30pm without being addressed. This was discovered when I called to see it if was ready to be picked up at around 3pm. Basically I was charge $40 for the inspection, non of the warrenty work was done, and was given an estimate of $600 for front rotor and pad replacement even though the rotors were only 1 year old with 15,000 KM on them. Sounds Fishy doesn't it? Well after a llong debate with the service manager, I took the car back in the next day, and had agreed on new pads, machined rotors (dealer claimed they were warped) and a brake cleaning for about $100 (no labour costs). He treated me right, but is this something I would have to deal with each and every time I take my car in? A friend also has a nissan and takes it to them for servicing and its not uncommon for them to not get around to his vehicle on the same day.

    Sorry...I'll stop venting now.
  • ultimaultima Member Posts: 96
    Sorry to hear about your experience... Personally, I NEVER go to the Dealer for mechanical problems -- always found it to be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper to go to a regular auto repair shop.

    I've always just asked friends if they know of a good mechanic/repair shop they've been to and had a good experience with.

    I've got a GREAT mechanic I've used for the past 5 years -- never any problems and easily HALF the cost of going to the Dealer (Note: I've got more than one vehicle).

    Again... Sorry for your experience -- you're right, sounds they were trying to milk you for cash. I had to change a Rotor on my Nissan Truck, and it only cost me around $100.
  • scottdudescottdude Member Posts: 177
    Does anyone know when the 2004's will arrive in showrooms? I'm thinking about getting a 2003 and want to take advantage of "clearance pricing".
  • entrrtentrrt Member Posts: 13
    i was told by a dealer that they are expecting them mid-late sept. i wonder what changes are in store?
  • malibu_jackmalibu_jack Member Posts: 75
    I heard that there is one new colour (dark gray I think), and a bit more refinement inside. Not much else though.
  • entrrtentrrt Member Posts: 13
    i wonder if they'll limit the shipment of 04's so dealer's can ask a higher asking price? ya know the whole " supply & demand" issue. although i cant imagine they'll be much difference in pricing.
  • cheerioboy26cheerioboy26 Member Posts: 412
    I doubt they will reduce production of the altima. They are running full out in Tennessee producting the Altima, and a few months ago Nissan announced they will expand the new Canton MS plant (again) to support another line of Altima production.
  • entrrtentrrt Member Posts: 13
    hopefully it'll help keep the prices the same, then.
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    Since there is very little new with the '04s it would be ridiculous for them to purposely limit supply in the attempt to price gouge on the low stock of vehicles and sell fewer cars in the process.
    Instead of buyers paying more, they would drive people who are on the fence to competing cars from Mazda and Honda.
  • entrrtentrrt Member Posts: 13
    true. BUT, there will always be the dealership that will not accept any "bargains" w/ a new year model even if no changes are made.
  • scottdudescottdude Member Posts: 177
    I think I asked this question a few months ago, about if Nissan has ever offered rebates on the new Altima, and the answer was no.

    This is curious to me since my general impression of Nissan is that they are sort of like Toyota (and even Toyota offers rebates). Or am I wrong and is Nissan trying to be more like Honda (who never offers rebates)?

    Or is the Altima such a hot seller that Nissan doesn't need to offer rebates? Or is it just that Nissan dealers in general tend to discount more than Toyota and Honda, so in the long run, customers still come out ahead?
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    They are not going to discount as much as for an '03 or no one would take the left over 2003 models, but they still have to discount enough to compete with '04 Mazdas and Honda.
    Once the 2003's are gone, the discounts will eventually get just as big.
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
    The Altima has been selling well enough that Nissan has not had to offer rebates on it. They have offered special financing (2.9% I believe), but that is it.

    In the past, Nissan used to offer big rebates on most of their cars. Recently they have been trying to move away from this, selling fewer cars for more per-unit profit.
  • slov98slov98 Member Posts: 112
    I saw a nissan commercial here in the DC area, I caught a rebate on a couple of their cars, I think one was altima at least $1000 , it's a very fast commercial with doors opening and closing, they show the rebate in between for a split second only...I guess they want you to go to the dealership to find out the real rebate
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I have heard radio commercials (I live in MD) for $1000 rebates on Altimas I think. They also had 0.9% for up to 60 months in lieu of the rebate. Also, just because a manufacturer doesn't offer a rebate doesn't mean you will not get a great deal, especially in these days and times.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    Nissan gave rebates on cars in the mid to late 90's ala 95-99 Maxima and 98-01 Altima because they had trouble moving them off of lots. Nissan is not having any problem moving 02+ Altima's off of lots. The car is selling that well for Nissan. Remember rebates are all about supply and demand and apparently Nissan is meeting their demand on the Altima thus no rebates yet but remember if there is no discounts the car will retain its value that much better.

    With the competition heating up with Toyota, Mazda, and Honda Nissan may have to rebate as seen in the last few posts. In New Jersey the Altima is selling fantasticly. However in my area Nissan dealers are giving 0.9% Financing though.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    In this day and time, I don't think rebates are out of the question for any car on the market. It just depends on how much for which vehicle.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Member Posts: 1,083
    Nissan right now is a classic turnaround story. Back in the 90's they were like the big three and had to resort to massive rebates and the like to move product. Unlike the big three they have learned if you make a superior product you can charge a premium. There new product line is pretty good and if it wasn't for the state of the overall economy they would probably be offering no rebates. Right now I think there is a regional 1k rebate on altima. However I don't think the '03's will be around much past late september. They stop producing them in early august and switched to 04 models. They should be arriving at the dealerships any day.
  • entrrtentrrt Member Posts: 13
    i heard from a local dealer that they dont expect them to arrive till late oct./early nov. kinda late isn't it?
  • cwbarrettcwbarrett Member Posts: 40
    Bought a 2002 2.5s in dec 01 , aftermarket leather and other stuff for about 22,000 out the door. This car has been great. I plan to run up at least 175,000 as I did on my 94 SE. Only the conti tires suck. Too bad American automakers can't make something to compete.
  • scottdudescottdude Member Posts: 177
    Does anyone know what's new on the 2004 Altima's, or are they basically the same as the 2003's? My local dealers have both model years for sale so I'm trying to decide which to get.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I saw a new SE on the road yesterday and it had shiny chrome type wheels? Is this a 2004 change, or a in-the-middle-of-the-year 03 change? I actually prefer the look of the non-chrome SE wheels myself...
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    They are supposed to be about the same as 2003.
    Someone posted earlier that they think there will be a 2004.5 or 2005 model next year that will have minor exterior styling tweaks and an interior quality upgrade.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    to see when the Altima gets refreshed on the exterior. Even though its not my style the Altima's exterior is really nice. Its very distinctive looking.
  • bonniedbonnied Member Posts: 7
    The 2003 altima does not allow you to turn off the ac after you have turned on the defroster. You can turn off the whole fan works but the ac will always come on when you turn on the heat. This means the car never gets truly hot, and it kills my gas mileage. Nissan says this was a design change for safety but I'm cold in this car. Can anyone give me a solution?
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Any time you turn on the defroster, the AC compressor will come on if the temperature outside is above freezing. This is to defog the windows that would otherwise impair your vision. Just about every car on the market is like this, so there is really no way to get away from it. You could always choose for the air to come out of another vent instead of the defroster, but I think that would be the only way.
  • bonniedbonnied Member Posts: 7
    I know the ac comes on but the problem is that there is no way to turn it off. This is new this year and Nissan claims it is a "safety" issue. That is bs. The ac unit will now never shut off in the winter, thereby shortening the life of my compressor and thereby shortening the life of my car. It is planned obsolescence on the part of Nissan. Not to mention the car never gets warm. I live in New England and if I had known this would never have bought this car and will never buy another Nissan. I am enough of an adult to turn on the ac unit when it is needed and to SHUT it off when not needed. I do not have that option now.
  • cheerioboy26cheerioboy26 Member Posts: 412
    Well, I don't own an Altima, but this is what I do in the winter in my Infiniti. When I press auto, the a/c comes on as well as the fan. Then, if I don't want the a/c on, I just press the a/c button, and it goes off. If I turn the system off, (or use the defroster) I have to do this again when I return to foot heat, for example. I have automatic climate control. Maybe this will help....I hope I understood your issue. Personally, I want the a/c on when the defroster is on, but there's not need for the a/c to be on when all I need is heat. And I can accomplpish that. Supposedly in the Infiniti G35, I have a variable compressor.....but I turn it off anyway.
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    It is only the beginning of October. You should not be "cold" in the car with the temperature control set to maximum heat. Even if it was zero degrees outside you should still be able to get warm air after the engine warms up even if the a/c compressor is running to dehumidify and clear the fog and condensation off the windows.
    If not, there is probably something wrong with the heater.
    I have used windshield defrosters with the a/c compressor running in many cars and I was still able to get plenty of heat at the same time. There was no need to go out my way to try and defeat the dehumidifying process because the a/c was too cold in the winter.
    If the a/c doesn't run, the windows will fog up in a short amount of time in cold weather with the windows closed and people breathing in the car.
    That is the purpose of the a/c compressor running when the windshield defogger is turned on. It isn't to cool the car, but to remove moisture from the air. That moisture fogs up the windows so you can't see out. The windshield defogging action works much better when the air coming out is dehumidified.
    You can open a window to keep the windows from fogging up instead, but that defeats the effort of trying to keep warm.
  • gerapaugerapau Member Posts: 211
    As s852 mentioned, even with the ac running you should be able to get plenty of hot air. I have never had problems getting my cars to warm up in the winter with the ac running and the temperature well below 0 degrees F. Surely if you are having problems getting the car to warm up now there is a problem.

    As far as having problems with the compressor, actually running the ac may lengthen the life of your ac unit (sort of). In the past many problems have arrisen from people not using their ac at all in the winter. Not using the unit from time to time causes the seals to dry out and leaks to occur.

    I have one question though. Can you not shut off the ac when you are just heating the car and not using the defroster? I have owned a few Nissans now (a couple of Maximas and a Murano) and I have been able to shut off the ac whenever I was not using the defroster. All of my Nissans have had auto climate control though and I have not owned an Altima. Also, as far as Nissan claiming it is a safety issue, they are probably right when it comes to running the ac while using the defroster. As others have stated, running the ac while using the defroster will help defog your windows MUCH better.

    In this day and age of law suits for everything Nissan is probably just covering their behinds. If they didn't set the ac to come on automatically some idiot who decided to drive with his windows fogged up and had an accident would probably see fit to sue Nissan. Also, every car that I have owned over the last 10 or 12 years have had the ac automatically come on with the defroster so it is not something that only Nissan does.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I actually thought about your situation last night when I got into my car (which is not an Altima). It was in the low 50s outside, and my leather seats were cold. I turned on the heat to the max, and the windshield and back window fogged up. So I turned the dial around to 'defrost', and everything cleared right up. I was still able to get heat and warm the cabin, but I didn't fog everything up. I think Nissan meant it to be a safety feature so as not to impair your vision with the windows fogged.

    Maybe your heater's broken, or maybe you don't have the right mixture of antifreeze/coolant in the radiator (which can also cause the heater to run not to hot). You might want to have your car checked out just to see.
  • bonniedbonnied Member Posts: 7
    Yes, I know the ac is supposed to come on. The problem is that it does not go off once you turn the defogger off and turn on any other setting. I get off work at 1AM, if I turn the heat on max the car gets very warm almost too hot. Once I turn on the defogger to defrost the windows the car never gets quite as hot again. And my ac compressor is still running shortening its life. Sometimes it is not that cold and I just want to defog the windows and turn on some air for fresh air, again not possible. Once I have turned on the defroster for any length of time the ac compressor will stay on until I turn the car off. Now, before someone asks, yes I know if I turn off the fan, the ac compressor goes off, but to run the vent and the heat I need to turn the fan on and therein lies my problem. As soon as I turn the fan back on the ac comes back on. I guess I am a little surprised that I am the only person who thinks this is not a good thing. I am surprised no one else is concerned about shortening the life span of their ac units and their cars.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Well there is no way to run the defroster without the AC on in any car out there today really. It is a safety feature, to keep windows fog free so you can see where you are going.

    If you change the mode and press the AC button, then the compressor should shut off and the light should go out.
  • bonniedbonnied Member Posts: 7
    Once again, I know the ac comes on with the defogger, but the 2003 model will not allow you to turn off the ac unit. The light for ac does not come on but the unit is on and will remain on with ANY setting. Previously Nissan had the ac unit turn off when you turned the fan control to off, with the 2003 model the ac unit will come back on when you turn the fan unit back on, regardless of whether you want heat, defrost or just some fresh air. You cannot stop the ac from coming back on unless you turn the ignition off. I was shown the technical bulletin from Nissan saying that this is new and it is not even in the owner's manual. They describe it as a "safety feature."
  • cheerioboy26cheerioboy26 Member Posts: 412
    the following comes from page 4-4 of your owner's manual, on the bottom right, and ends on 4-5. I added words to represent the icons.

    The general website is http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/nissan (or /infiniti if you want.)

    When the "DEFROST" position is selected, the air
    conditioner automatically turns on (however,
    the indicator light will not illuminate) if the
    outside temperature is more than 36 - 37°F
    (2 - 3°C). The air conditioning system will
    continue to operate until the fan control dial
    is turned to OFF or the vehicle is shut off,
    even if the air flow control dial is turned to a
    position other than the "DEFROST" position. This
    dehumidifies the air which helps defog the
    windshield. The "RECIRC" mode automatically turns off, allowing outside air to be drawn
    into the passenger compartment to further
    improve the defogging performance.

    Bonnie, the middle of the paragraph describes what you are talking about. It appears that you can turn the fan OFF and that will turn off the a/c. Give it a try, and tell us if it works.
  • bonniedbonnied Member Posts: 7
    I have the owner's manual and that is what is says, unfortunately it is not true. There is a technical document that was sent to all dealers updating this info. The ac unit for "safety reasons" will no longer shut off once the defroster is engaged. You can turn it off by turning the fan control to off but when you turn it on again for either heat or vent the ac will come on again. This is new for the 2003 models and Nissan says the owners manual will be corrected in the future.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    The AC won't shut off even when you push the 'AC' button on the dash? That seems like a problem to me actually, and makes no sense.

    My PT is different actually. The AC comes on in Defrost mode, but you have to turn the fan control knob a different way to get it to come on in any other mode. I like that setup best, even though I thought it to be overly complex when I first got the car.
  • luv2riteluvluv2riteluv Member Posts: 7
    I'm a Mazda 626 owner and need to buy another vehicle. Narrowed my choices down to the 2003 Altima and the 2004 Mazda 6. Was just about to purchase the 6 when I came across the posts on the potential rust problem. No more 6, but now I'd like to hear from some Altima owners. It will cost less than the 6 to purchase but more to insure and maintain. I do like the way it feels and looks. I came across one recall; did I miss any others? From what I've read, most owners love their Altima. I'm hoping to fall in love too (although my husband thinks it looks like a big boom box!) I'm concerned about service too. Had nothing but great service from Mazda and I'm afraid to move elsewhere. Have visited 4 Nissan dealerships and have yet to find one I like. If their service departments are anything like the showrooms, I won't be impressed. Any input greatly appreciated.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    If you got the 2.5 model of the Altima, you could probably lower your insurance and repair costs. It's a pretty powerful motor, so don't discount it just because it's only a 4 cylinder.

    I almost bought a used Altima myself a couple months ago. The car was really comfortable to drive, although it feels huge when you first start driving it. The 3.5SE has lots of power, but beware of its fuel economy and torque steer (pulling when accelerating hard), which might make it seem like a handful.

    Styling is definitely different, but at least you won't confuse it for all the Camcords out there, right? :) And from what I have seen on used car lots, resale value increased a little bit with the redesign as well. Crash scores are at the top of the heap as well (although below the Accord and Camry).

    I would definitely take a look at some other midsize cars to be sure this is the one you want, but I don't see it being a bad choice. Let us know what you decide, and good luck!
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,378
    How do I know if the used Altimas I'm looking at have side airbags? Is there any labelling on the seats or headliner? Also, is the ABS pump easy to locate under the hood, or is there an easier way (other than a test drive) to determine if it has ABS?
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    On the roof pillar where the windshield and roof pillar meet, it says something like 'airbag' or something there. The one I test drove had side curtain airbags and that's what it said. Also, side airbags and ABS were a package. If the car has one, it will have the other as well. This is true of 2002+ cars only, don't know about the older ones.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Member Posts: 1,083
    actually there is a little tag on the SEAT that will say SRS SIDE AIRBAG. You only have them on the pillar if you have curtain airbags. My sister has a previous generation nissan that has side airbags and I have an infiniti with the same.
  • cheenahcheenah Member Posts: 4
    Not a car buff, but I do wish to keep my 2003 altima in good condition. I only put the premium and the lower choice of gas. Some say the higher is not needed. Im confused. They say you just waste money. Am I PUTTING THE RIGHT ONE IN!
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