@abacomike said:
Got a call from the service manager. The new radio solved the communications problem, but created another problem - the rear cameras are not functioning. They are waiting for Genesis engineers to send them the software coding for the back-up cameras. Front and side cameras are working fine, but not the 360 degree Birdseye view. He expects to have the car finished sometime tomorrow. I’ll believe it when I see it!>
Are you sure they didn’t yank out the radio from @driver100’s Florida Benz that’s been cooped up in his garage over a year now? By now they might have thought he’d never miss it.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
@abacomike said:
Got a call from the service manager. The new radio solved the communications problem, but created another problem - the rear cameras are not functioning. They are waiting for Genesis engineers to send them the software coding for the back-up cameras. Front and side cameras are working fine, but not the 360 degree Birdseye view. He expects to have the car finished sometime tomorrow. I’ll believe it when I see it!>
Are you sure they didn’t yank out the radio from @driver100’s Florida Benz that’s been cooped up in his garage over a year now? By now they might have thought he’d never miss it.
jmonroe
Both of us now have cars without back-up cameras. Who would have thought I would have something in common with driver100? GOD help me! 😜🤪🤓
Got a call from the service manager. The new radio solved the communications problem, but created another problem - the rear cameras are not functioning. They are waiting for Genesis engineers to send them the software coding for the back-up cameras. Front and side cameras are working fine, but not the 360 degree Birdseye view. He expects to have the car finished sometime tomorrow. I’ll believe it when I see it!>
Are you sure they didn’t yank out the radio from @driver100’s Florida Benz that’s been cooped up in his garage over a year now? By now they might have thought he’d never miss it.
jmonroe
Both of us now have cars without back-up cameras. Who would have thought I would have something in common with driver100? GOD help me! 😜🤪🤓
Mike, you would have been better off buying the C250 for $12000! Both have the same problem!
@abacomike I'm glad your car is still under warranty....that would have been a very expensive repair. If it wasn't under warranty you would probably pay $1000s to get your rear camera back too!
For what it's worth, the is the CR ranking of the best car brands for 2021 1. Mazda 2. BMW 3. Subaru 4. Porsche 5. Honda 6. Lexus 7. Toyota 8. Chrysler 9. Buick 10. Hyundai
As I've said before, I'm always nervous when the pocket-protector nerds at CR like a car that I like; it reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry finds out that the girl he was dating was dumped by Newman.
Unless something has changed, CR's reliability rankings are based upon surveys of the opinions of their subscribers. So it's even worse than you feared.
Yes as far as I know they still do ranking on subscriber surveys. Confirmation bias creeps in.
Opinions isn't the right word I think. Isn't it an objective survey of experiences only on cars that they directly own? It's not like CR sends a survey about BMW reliability to a Chevy owner.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
Opinions isn't the right word I think. Isn't it an objective survey of experiences only on cars that they directly own? It's not like CR sends a survey about BMW reliability to a Chevy owner.
Selective memory would impact the results. Giving some posters here a survey on their BMWs or other favorite brands would almost surely result in glowing responses regardless of their actual experience. I don't know how CR validates responses to prove ownership either. Could some disgruntled former owner of a decades-old Chrysler model submit a fictitious response on a current model they don't actually drive, just to get back at them? I don't know, but it is a question to be asked.
I think if I answered a CR review of my car I would try to be as objective and truthful as possible. If I had no problems and I liked my car a lot I might be a bit bias toward favoring the car, and the opposite if I didn't like it. But, I have nothing to gain by making stuff up. I wouldn't believe the results 100% but if 60% of respondence said they didn't like the CVT because it felt weird, I'd want to know that, and I would believe it. I don't think it is the ultimate decider, but the information can be very helpful if used wisely.
@driver100 said:
I was checking out a Mustang electric for some unknown reason and I see they are priced from about $45k to $60k.
The interior is pretty nice but why would you leave the media screen just leaning up....sticking out....looking like they forgot about adding it until the last minute?
Edmunds gives it 4 1/2 stars. The range is about 300 miles....which is a show stopper for me. In some reviews I have read reviewers go without air conditioning or heating to increase mileage....do I really want to worry about those things?
You mean 300 miles range isn't good enough for you? Well the technology is moving forward with solid state batteries---rather than Li-On batteries--- where a 500 mile range and a 10 minute full charge will be the norm. But you have to wait until 2024 for that privilege.
In the meantime, I think 300 mile range is more than enough for the typical driver. Consider a trip from Boston to New York is only 200 miles or four hours of driving. After this much driving one needs a break in which time you can get a top-off to 80% charge in 20 minutes. My son-in-law drives his Tesla Model X from Maryland to Boston with no range anxiety. The trick is not to get a full charge at fill up but only 10% - 80%. In that way you get the maximum range for the shortest refueling time. In other words, it takes twice as much time charging from 80% to 100% than from 10% to 80%. Essentially, it is the same principle as charging your cell phone.
For what it's worth, the is the CR ranking of the best car brands for 2021 1. Mazda 2. BMW 3. Subaru 4. Porsche 5. Honda 6. Lexus 7. Toyota 8. Chrysler 9. Buick 10. Hyundai
As I've said before, I'm always nervous when the pocket-protector nerds at CR like a car that I like; it reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry finds out that the girl he was dating was dumped by Newman.
Unless something has changed, CR's reliability rankings are based upon surveys of the opinions of their subscribers. So it's even worse than you feared.
Yes as far as I know they still do ranking on subscriber surveys. Confirmation bias creeps in.
Opinions isn't the right word I think. Isn't it an objective survey of experiences only on cars that they directly own? It's not like CR sends a survey about BMW reliability to a Chevy owner.
Actually it would be a subjective survey as self reporting surveys are notoriously inaccurate due to confirmation bias.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I think if I answered a CR review of my car I would try to be as objective and truthful as possible. If I had no problems and I liked my car a lot I might be a bit bias toward favoring the car, and the opposite if I didn't like it. But, I have nothing to gain by making stuff up. I wouldn't believe the results 100% but if 60% of respondence said they didn't like the CVT because it felt weird, I'd want to know that, and I would believe it. I don't think it is the ultimate decider, but the information can be very helpful if used wisely.
The thing is is that people tend to answer surveys based of perception and not reality. Say you buy a particular car due to the fact that everyone raves about the car, everyone you know that has one has great experiences with it and all the reviews are great you are more likely to give a positive review regardless of your actual experience.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
The bias and lack of random selection of respondents is everywhere in this convenience survey. The subscribers list of CR is heavily biased toward certain types of cars, IMHO.
Then the ones out of those who choose to respond to a survey would further bias the selection. Some who might have useful information don't bother; others have a grudge or bias toward their own vehicle, current or in the past, and respond with fictional information or exaggerated information.
I'll take the J.D. Powers surveys which are sent to randomly selected vehicle owners from the state bureau of motor vehicle lists. In doing that they can get a selection of people owning a particular brand by sending to the needed number of owners to get a reply number that is meaningful in survey result numbers, even for lightly owned vehicles.
I was checking out a Mustang electric for some unknown reason and I see they are priced from about $45k to $60k.
The interior is pretty nice but why would you leave the media screen just leaning up....sticking out....looking like they forgot about adding it until the last minute?
Edmunds gives it 4 1/2 stars. The range is about 300 miles....which is a show stopper for me. In some reviews I have read reviewers go without air conditioning or heating to increase mileage....do I really want to worry about those things?
You mean 300 miles range isn't good enough for you? Well the technology is moving forward with solid state batteries---rather Li-On batteries--- where a 500 mile range and a 10 minute full charge will be the norm. But you have to wait until 2024 for that privilege.
In the meantime, I think 300 mile range is more than enough for the typical driver. Consider a trip from Boston to New York is only 200 miles or four hours of driving. After this much driving one needs a break in which time you can get a top-off to 80% charge in 20 minutes. My son-in-law drives his Tesla Model X from Maryland to Boston with no range anxiety. The trick is not to get a full charge at fill up but only 10% - 80%. In that way you get the maximum range for the shortest refueling time. In other words, it takes twice as much time charging from 80% to 100% than from 10% to 80%. Essentially, it is the same principle as charging your cell phone.
Considering that they average driver drives less than 15K miles a year, which is 41 miles a day or 288 miles a week, a 300 mile range is very acceptable. Especially considering that you can plug it in every night and have a fully charged battery when you get up in the morning.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
@snakeweasel said:
Actually it would be a subjective survey as self reporting surveys are notoriously inaccurate due to confirmation bias.
I’ve dealt with polls/surveys in the political realm and I know a voluntary survey open to all is rarely-if ever-accurate. In the case of CR, the only people counted are CR subscribers who choose to respond. That’s not anywhere close to a statistically significant sample.
That said, a good pollster can get a accurate result from a very small group if that group is chosen carefully. A friend who is a pollster conducted a poll two weeks before the 2018 primary and I believe he polled less than 1,000 people. I didn’t find out until after the election but the poll had me up by 3 points with a margin of error of +/- 3 points.
I won by 5 points, and he nailed every other country race as well.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Got a call from the service manager. The new radio solved the communications problem, but created another problem - the rear cameras are not functioning. They are waiting for Genesis engineers to send them the software coding for the back-up cameras. Front and side cameras are working fine, but not the 360 degree Birdseye view. He expects to have the car finished sometime tomorrow. I’ll believe it when I see it!>
Are you sure they didn’t yank out the radio from @driver100’s Florida Benz that’s been cooped up in his garage over a year now? By now they might have thought he’d never miss it.
jmonroe
Both of us now have cars without back-up cameras. Who would have thought I would have something in common with driver100? GOD help me! 😜🤪🤓
Mike, you would have been better off buying the C250 for $12000! Both have the same problem!
I think you guys need to stop buying fancy cars and embrace the hooptie lifestyle. The high expectations of perfection in your cars make disappointment inevitable. With a hooptie you don’t expect much and if a part stops working or falls off in the road you’re not too upset.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Got a call from the service manager. The new radio solved the communications problem, but created another problem - the rear cameras are not functioning. They are waiting for Genesis engineers to send them the software coding for the back-up cameras. Front and side cameras are working fine, but not the 360 degree Birdseye view. He expects to have the car finished sometime tomorrow. I’ll believe it when I see it!>
Are you sure they didn’t yank out the radio from @driver100’s Florida Benz that’s been cooped up in his garage over a year now? By now they might have thought he’d never miss it.
jmonroe
Both of us now have cars without back-up cameras. Who would have thought I would have something in common with driver100? GOD help me! 😜🤪🤓
Mike, you would have been better off buying the C250 for $12000! Both have the same problem!
I think you guys need to stop buying fancy cars and embrace the hooptie lifestyle. The high expectations of perfection in your cars make disappointment inevitable. With a hooptie you don’t expect much and if a part stops working or falls off in the road you’re not too upset.
You may have a point there, anyways I have found out that having a backup camera just means that I have one more thing to check before I back up.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
So what do you guys think of the Gas Apocalypse on the east coast due to the Russian hack of the pipeline? From Mississippi to Maryland they’re saying. I’m not sure if it will effect me in upstate NY. I think our gas comes from NJ refineries but who knows?
As usual the news media is pedaling fear porn, simultaneously telling people not to panic buy while showing multiple images of “out of gas” signs on gas pumps and warning of terrible spikes in future prices.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I was checking out a Mustang electric for some unknown reason and I see they are priced from about $45k to $60k.
The interior is pretty nice but why would you leave the media screen just leaning up....sticking out....looking like they forgot about adding it until the last minute?
Edmunds gives it 4 1/2 stars. The range is about 300 miles....which is a show stopper for me. In some reviews I have read reviewers go without air conditioning or heating to increase mileage....do I really want to worry about those things?
You mean 300 miles range isn't good enough for you? Well the technology is moving forward with solid state batteries---rather Li-On batteries--- where a 500 mile range and a 10 minute full charge will be the norm. But you have to wait until 2024 for that privilege.
In the meantime, I think 300 mile range is more than enough for the typical driver. Consider a trip from Boston to New York is only 200 miles or four hours of driving. After this much driving one needs a break in which time you can get a top-off to 80% charge in 20 minutes. My son-in-law drives his Tesla Model X from Maryland to Boston with no range anxiety. The trick is not to get a full charge at fill up but only 10% - 80%. In that way you get the maximum range for the shortest refueling time. In other words, it takes twice as much time charging from 80% to 100% than from 10% to 80%. Essentially, it is the same principle as charging your cell phone.
Good explanation, I am now better informed/
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
So what do you guys think of the Gas Apocalypse on the east coast due to the Russian hack of the pipeline? From Mississippi to Maryland they’re saying. I’m not sure if it will effect me in upstate NY. I think our gas comes from NJ refineries but who knows?
As usual the news media is pedaling fear porn, simultaneously telling people not to panic buy while showing multiple images of “out of gas” signs on gas pumps and warning of terrible spikes in future prices.
There are lines at gas stations around here and empty pumps. Not to say they won't be refilled soon, but much chaos caused by the press.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
It's been a while since I responded to a survey from CR. When you do the auto survey, they ask the year, make, model and specific questions whether you've had an issue in a selected category. The person answering the survey can easily determine the fate of the survey results.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
I was checking out a Mustang electric for some unknown reason and I see they are priced from about $45k to $60k.
The interior is pretty nice but why would you leave the media screen just leaning up....sticking out....looking like they forgot about adding it until the last minute?
Edmunds gives it 4 1/2 stars. The range is about 300 miles....which is a show stopper for me. In some reviews I have read reviewers go without air conditioning or heating to increase mileage....do I really want to worry about those things?
You mean 300 miles range isn't good enough for you? Well the technology is moving forward with solid state batteries---rather Li-On batteries--- where a 500 mile range and a 10 minute full charge will be the norm. But you have to wait until 2024 for that privilege.
In the meantime, I think 300 mile range is more than enough for the typical driver. Consider a trip from Boston to New York is only 200 miles or four hours of driving. After this much driving one needs a break in which time you can get a top-off to 80% charge in 20 minutes. My son-in-law drives his Tesla Model X from Maryland to Boston with no range anxiety. The trick is not to get a full charge at fill up but only 10% - 80%. In that way you get the maximum range for the shortest refueling time. In other words, it takes twice as much time charging from 80% to 100% than from 10% to 80%. Essentially, it is the same principle as charging your cell phone.
For short runs no problem. But if you are driving from Toronto to Florida, about 1500 miles, do you want to stop every 250 miles and wait 20 minutes for a charge? The Audi only goes 222 miles. And from what I am seeing those are maximum miles when not using the a/c too much etc. 500 miles would be better....but, that confirms my thoughts that it is too early to buy an e-car yet, unless it is just being used for fairly short trips.
I think if I answered a CR review of my car I would try to be as objective and truthful as possible. If I had no problems and I liked my car a lot I might be a bit bias toward favoring the car, and the opposite if I didn't like it. But, I have nothing to gain by making stuff up. I wouldn't believe the results 100% but if 60% of respondence said they didn't like the CVT because it felt weird, I'd want to know that, and I would believe it. I don't think it is the ultimate decider, but the information can be very helpful if used wisely.
The thing is is that people tend to answer surveys based of perception and not reality. Say you buy a particular car due to the fact that everyone raves about the car, everyone you know that has one has great experiences with it and all the reviews are great you are more likely to give a positive review regardless of your actual experience.
I get some useful information from surveys. For example, the 10 most reliable cars and the 10 least reliable cars is probably not 100% accurate....but I am pretty sure the 5 at the top and 5 at the bottom are there for a reason.
So what do you guys think of the Gas Apocalypse on the east coast due to the Russian hack of the pipeline? From Mississippi to Maryland they’re saying. I’m not sure if it will effect me in upstate NY. I think our gas comes from NJ refineries but who knows?
As usual the news media is pedaling fear porn, simultaneously telling people not to panic buy while showing multiple images of “out of gas” signs on gas pumps and warning of terrible spikes in future prices.
Love my east and west coast friends here. But, this is what I love about the IN,OH,KY I run in. All this sort of news has little effect on us.
Bottom line, the speculators, the commodities market, anyone trading in Fuel will use ANY flimsy excuse to raise prices, regardless of how unrelated to simple economics these price rises are. Give it a few weeks. Demand for gasoline continues to drop precipitously because of the move to EVs. One of the suppliers will try to gain market share a percentage point here or there and either up production, or drop their bbl price (maybe both).
Surveys…..used to fill any and all of them out thinking they would make a difference in my experience with the company who issued the survey. Clearly, it didn’t. Now, if you want my opinion and/or use my info for your marketing metrics, it’s not free. You better be sending something of value my way, or you get zero survey input from me.
Got a call from the service manager. The new radio solved the communications problem, but created another problem - the rear cameras are not functioning. They are waiting for Genesis engineers to send them the software coding for the back-up cameras. Front and side cameras are working fine, but not the 360 degree Birdseye view. He expects to have the car finished sometime tomorrow. I’ll believe it when I see it!>
Are you sure they didn’t yank out the radio from @driver100’s Florida Benz that’s been cooped up in his garage over a year now? By now they might have thought he’d never miss it.
jmonroe
Both of us now have cars without back-up cameras. Who would have thought I would have something in common with driver100? GOD help me! 😜🤪🤓
Mike, you would have been better off buying the C250 for $12000! Both have the same problem!
I think you guys need to stop buying fancy cars and embrace the hooptie lifestyle. The high expectations of perfection in your cars make disappointment inevitable. With a hooptie you don’t expect much and if a part stops working or falls off in the road you’re not too upset.
That would make a great ad for a questionable used car lot. Buy one of our hoopties and you will never be disappointed...you get exactly what you paid for.
I think if I answered a CR review of my car I would try to be as objective and truthful as possible. If I had no problems and I liked my car a lot I might be a bit bias toward favoring the car, and the opposite if I didn't like it. But, I have nothing to gain by making stuff up. I wouldn't believe the results 100% but if 60% of respondence said they didn't like the CVT because it felt weird, I'd want to know that, and I would believe it. I don't think it is the ultimate decider, but the information can be very helpful if used wisely.
The thing is is that people tend to answer surveys based of perception and not reality. Say you buy a particular car due to the fact that everyone raves about the car, everyone you know that has one has great experiences with it and all the reviews are great you are more likely to give a positive review regardless of your actual experience.
I get some useful information from surveys. For example, the 10 most reliable cars and the 10 least reliable cars is probably not 100% accurate....but I am pretty sure the 5 at the top and 5 at the bottom are there for a reason.
Yes they are there for a reason but what is that reason? I had a coworker tell me that his Toyota was more reliable than my Hyundai for a reason. That reason wasn't reliability as my car only went back to the dealership after 130K miles for a bad part while his Toyota could have qualified for a lemon buy back.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
For short runs no problem. But if you are driving from Toronto to Florida, about 1500 miles, do you want to stop every 250 miles and wait 20 minutes for a charge? The Audi only goes 222 miles. And from what I am seeing those are maximum miles when not using the a/c too much etc. 500 miles would be better....but, that confirms my thoughts that it is too early to buy an e-car yet, unless it is just being used for fairly short trips.
Right now you need to consider them not all that much different than the golf carts people use to putter around The Villages or wherever. You wouldn't try to drive one of them from Florida to Toronto. You would take a plane or a train or a bus or rent a car. For now, they are a substitute for a lot of use cases, but not all. One would work fine for me and the way I drive.
Oh oh, don't let imid read this: DETROIT — The U.S. government’s auto safety agency is investigating multiple complaints about steering failures that could affect more than 1.1 million Honda Accord sedans.
In documents posted Monday, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it received 31 complaints about the problem and Honda has 77 more. Owners complained about a loss of steering control and the cars veering from their intended travel path. Two crashes and two injuries were reported.
How come the shading/highlighting works once in awhile but it usually isn't there? Some kind of cutback?
It looks like there is a limit for nesting quotes. So if a post gets quoted then that post gets quoted and so on soon you get to a point where the shading of what's being quoted disappears.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I think if I answered a CR review of my car I would try to be as objective and truthful as possible. If I had no problems and I liked my car a lot I might be a bit bias toward favoring the car, and the opposite if I didn't like it. But, I have nothing to gain by making stuff up. I wouldn't believe the results 100% but if 60% of respondence said they didn't like the CVT because it felt weird, I'd want to know that, and I would believe it. I don't think it is the ultimate decider, but the information can be very helpful if used wisely.
The thing is is that people tend to answer surveys based of perception and not reality. Say you buy a particular car due to the fact that everyone raves about the car, everyone you know that has one has great experiences with it and all the reviews are great you are more likely to give a positive review regardless of your actual experience.
I get some useful information from surveys. For example, the 10 most reliable cars and the 10 least reliable cars is probably not 100% accurate....but I am pretty sure the 5 at the top and 5 at the bottom are there for a reason.
Yes they are there for a reason but what is that reason? I had a coworker tell me that his Toyota was more reliable than my Hyundai for a reason. That reason wasn't reliability as my car only went back to the dealership after 130K miles for a bad part while his Toyota could have qualified for a lemon buy back.
I believe your coworkers version. Generally, Toyotas are more reliable than Hyundais. Especially if it was a Pony.
I think if I answered a CR review of my car I would try to be as objective and truthful as possible. If I had no problems and I liked my car a lot I might be a bit bias toward favoring the car, and the opposite if I didn't like it. But, I have nothing to gain by making stuff up. I wouldn't believe the results 100% but if 60% of respondence said they didn't like the CVT because it felt weird, I'd want to know that, and I would believe it. I don't think it is the ultimate decider, but the information can be very helpful if used wisely.
The thing is is that people tend to answer surveys based of perception and not reality. Say you buy a particular car due to the fact that everyone raves about the car, everyone you know that has one has great experiences with it and all the reviews are great you are more likely to give a positive review regardless of your actual experience.
I get some useful information from surveys. For example, the 10 most reliable cars and the 10 least reliable cars is probably not 100% accurate....but I am pretty sure the 5 at the top and 5 at the bottom are there for a reason.
Yes they are there for a reason but what is that reason? I had a coworker tell me that his Toyota was more reliable than my Hyundai for a reason. That reason wasn't reliability as my car only went back to the dealership after 130K miles for a bad part while his Toyota could have qualified for a lemon buy back.
I believe your coworkers version. Generally, Toyotas are more reliable than Hyundais. Especially if it was a Pony.
Nope, when my 2000 Elantra went back to the dealership due to a cracked exhaust manifold at over 130K miles which was the first time work was done on the car that wasn't routine maintenance my coworker told me that's what you get for buying a Hyundai, you should have gotten a more reliable car like mine. However he was taking his Toyota back to the dealership on a monthly or semi monthly basis for some issue.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
@abacomike I'm glad your car is still under warranty....that would have been a very expensive repair. If it wasn't under warranty you would probably pay $1000s to get your rear camera back too!
@abacomike, in this 3 minute YouTube video they show all the tech features that you should expect with your G90. I was wondering whether the telematics in the V6 is different from the 5.0. If so, could there be some incompatible integration between the two versions? I don't think so though, it could just be the technicians not having the specialized training and or experience. Wishing you the best for a permanent fix. Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKtdr093BA
@oldfarmer50 said:
So what do you guys think of the Gas Apocalypse on the east coast due to the Russian hack of the pipeline? From Mississippi to Maryland they’re saying. I’m not sure if it will effect me in upstate NY. I think our gas comes from NJ refineries but who knows?
As usual the news media is pedaling fear porn, simultaneously telling people not to panic buy while showing multiple images of “out of gas” signs on gas pumps and warning of terrible spikes in future prices.
I guess this is the perfect time to buy a more powerful battery at the auto parts.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I think if I answered a CR review of my car I would try to be as objective and truthful as possible. If I had no problems and I liked my car a lot I might be a bit bias toward favoring the car, and the opposite if I didn't like it. But, I have nothing to gain by making stuff up. I wouldn't believe the results 100% but if 60% of respondence said they didn't like the CVT because it felt weird, I'd want to know that, and I would believe it. I don't think it is the ultimate decider, but the information can be very helpful if used wisely.
The thing is is that people tend to answer surveys based of perception and not reality. Say you buy a particular car due to the fact that everyone raves about the car, everyone you know that has one has great experiences with it and all the reviews are great you are more likely to give a positive review regardless of your actual experience.
I get some useful information from surveys. For example, the 10 most reliable cars and the 10 least reliable cars is probably not 100% accurate....but I am pretty sure the 5 at the top and 5 at the bottom are there for a reason.
Yes they are there for a reason but what is that reason? I had a coworker tell me that his Toyota was more reliable than my Hyundai for a reason. That reason wasn't reliability as my car only went back to the dealership after 130K miles for a bad part while his Toyota could have qualified for a lemon buy back.
I believe your coworkers version. Generally, Toyotas are more reliable than Hyundais. Especially if it was a Pony.
Nope, when my 2000 Elantra went back to the dealership due to a cracked exhaust manifold at over 130K miles which was the first time work was done on the car that wasn't routine maintenance my coworker told me that's what you get for buying a Hyundai, you should have gotten a more reliable car like mine. However he was taking his Toyota back to the dealership on a monthly or semi monthly basis for some issue.
Scotty picks the top 5 reliable cars for 2018....4 are Toyotas....one Miata; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eRrpu0zdlI Here he goes down the list of Asian brands, least reliable to most reliable from #8. Hyundai is #4 and Toyota is #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5QUHh__lvk In the 2nd video Scotty explains why he chooses each brand and I sense that his reasoning is pretty good....whether you like him or not. Also, in the case of your Hyundai and your friends Toyota....a comparison of two cars is almost meaningless. Maybe his was a flood car....oh, I know, he bought it new.....OK - I have never heard of a Toyota lemon car in recent history. I am sure they are out there, but they must be rare. I have heard lots of incredible Toyota stories about how people love their Toys.
@abacomike I'm glad your car is still under warranty....that would have been a very expensive repair. If it wasn't under warranty you would probably pay $1000s to get your rear camera back too!
@abacomike, in this 3 minute YouTube video they show all the tech features that you should expect with your G90. I was wondering whether the telematics in the V6 is different from the 5.0. If so, could there be some incompatible integration between the two versions? I don't think so though, it could just be the technicians not having the specialized training and or experience. Wishing you the best for a permanent fix. Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKtdr093BA
What is with that grill? Are they trying to out ugly Toyota?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I think if I answered a CR review of my car I would try to be as objective and truthful as possible. If I had no problems and I liked my car a lot I might be a bit bias toward favoring the car, and the opposite if I didn't like it. But, I have nothing to gain by making stuff up. I wouldn't believe the results 100% but if 60% of respondence said they didn't like the CVT because it felt weird, I'd want to know that, and I would believe it. I don't think it is the ultimate decider, but the information can be very helpful if used wisely.
The thing is is that people tend to answer surveys based of perception and not reality. Say you buy a particular car due to the fact that everyone raves about the car, everyone you know that has one has great experiences with it and all the reviews are great you are more likely to give a positive review regardless of your actual experience.
I get some useful information from surveys. For example, the 10 most reliable cars and the 10 least reliable cars is probably not 100% accurate....but I am pretty sure the 5 at the top and 5 at the bottom are there for a reason.
Yes they are there for a reason but what is that reason? I had a coworker tell me that his Toyota was more reliable than my Hyundai for a reason. That reason wasn't reliability as my car only went back to the dealership after 130K miles for a bad part while his Toyota could have qualified for a lemon buy back.
I believe your coworkers version. Generally, Toyotas are more reliable than Hyundais. Especially if it was a Pony.
Nope, when my 2000 Elantra went back to the dealership due to a cracked exhaust manifold at over 130K miles which was the first time work was done on the car that wasn't routine maintenance my coworker told me that's what you get for buying a Hyundai, you should have gotten a more reliable car like mine. However he was taking his Toyota back to the dealership on a monthly or semi monthly basis for some issue.
Scotty picks the top 5 reliable cars for 2018....4 are Toyotas....one Miata; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eRrpu0zdlI Here he goes down the list of Asian brands, least reliable to most reliable from #8. Hyundai is #4 and Toyota is #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5QUHh__lvk In the 2nd video Scotty explains why he chooses each brand and I sense that his reasoning is pretty good....whether you like him or not. Also, in the case of your Hyundai and your friends Toyota....a comparison of two cars is almost meaningless. Maybe his was a flood car....oh, I know, he bought it new.....OK - I have never heard of a Toyota lemon car in recent history. I am sure they are out there, but they must be rare. I have heard lots of incredible Toyota stories about how people love their Toys.
Sorry, you seemed to have mistaken me for someone who cares what some annoying youtuber thinks.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
In response to @oldfarmer50 and "Tell that to the EV owners in Texas. "
I suspect that was not the biggest concern for most people who were without power during the Great Freeze of 2021. I was using my car to charge my cell phone and wouldn't you know it, the USB ports would not put out power without the ignition switch on. In either the car or the truck. And the cigarette lighter plug was the same.
I think a 300 mile range on an EV would work for me 95% of the time, or better. But there would still be the occasional road trip where that kind of range just wouldn’t cut it. If you have a second car for the road trips, or if you can easily and economically rent something, then that would be fine. Right now it is neither easy nor economical to rent a car, so that’s out.
I think going forward I am going to try and limit myself to one vehicle. The insurance costs ($108 per month, per vehicle) for full coverage is just a little too much to throw away for a second car that just sits there most of the time. I say that right now but give it a few months and I may very well be out there shopping again. But not until the present insanity has passed!
I think a 300 mile range on an EV would work for me 95% of the time, or better.
My argument to that is.....like when Mrs D said we could make our next 2nd car an EV. And I said, yeh, remember when my E350 got hit by a big truck and became a write-off, and we only had one car we could use and we had a 300 mile trip we had to make when we only had one car.........
I am sure Colonial was responsible in maintaining their computer infrastructure and didn't leave a door wide open for a hack. I am also certain there will be accountability doled out in this mess, and that it won't just be another corporation who is a person too who escapes answering to anyone while the broken justice system continues on with make work projects and expensive and failed drug wars etc.
EVs are fine for most driving situations if one is lucky enough to have home charging infrastructure, but a significant amount of people are not so lucky (reply function seems kaput this morning).
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2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
That’s brutal Mike!! Let’s hope they get it sorted quickly
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
Are you sure they didn’t yank out the radio from @driver100’s Florida Benz that’s been cooped up in his garage over a year now? By now they might have thought he’d never miss it.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Both of us now have cars without back-up cameras. Who would have thought I would have something in common with driver100? GOD help me! 😜🤪🤓
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Both of us now have cars without back-up cameras. Who would have thought I would have something in common with driver100? GOD help me! 😜🤪🤓
Mike, you would have been better off buying the C250 for $12000! Both have the same problem!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Stay tuned.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
I don't think it is the ultimate decider, but the information can be very helpful if used wisely.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
You mean 300 miles range isn't good enough for you? Well the technology is moving forward with solid state batteries---rather than Li-On batteries--- where a 500 mile range and a 10 minute full charge will be the norm. But you have to wait until 2024 for that privilege.
In the meantime, I think 300 mile range is more than enough for the typical driver. Consider a trip from Boston to New York is only 200 miles or four hours of driving. After this much driving one needs a break in which time you can get a top-off to 80% charge in 20 minutes. My son-in-law drives his Tesla Model X from Maryland to Boston with no range anxiety. The trick is not to get a full charge at fill up but only 10% - 80%. In that way you get the maximum range for the shortest refueling time. In other words, it takes twice as much time charging from 80% to 100% than from 10% to 80%. Essentially, it is the same principle as charging your cell phone.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
The subscribers list of CR is heavily biased toward certain types of cars, IMHO.
Then the ones out of those who choose to respond to a survey would further bias
the selection. Some who might have useful information don't bother; others have a grudge
or bias toward their own vehicle, current or in the past, and respond with fictional information
or exaggerated information.
I'll take the J.D. Powers surveys which are sent to randomly selected vehicle owners from the
state bureau of motor vehicle lists. In doing that they can get a selection of people owning a
particular brand by sending to the needed number of owners to get a reply number that is meaningful in survey result numbers, even for lightly owned vehicles.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
You mean 300 miles range isn't good enough for you? Well the technology is moving forward with solid state batteries---rather Li-On batteries--- where a 500 mile range and a 10 minute full charge will be the norm. But you have to wait until 2024 for that privilege.
In the meantime, I think 300 mile range is more than enough for the typical driver. Consider a trip from Boston to New York is only 200 miles or four hours of driving. After this much driving one needs a break in which time you can get a top-off to 80% charge in 20 minutes. My son-in-law drives his Tesla Model X from Maryland to Boston with no range anxiety. The trick is not to get a full charge at fill up but only 10% - 80%. In that way you get the maximum range for the shortest refueling time. In other words, it takes twice as much time charging from 80% to 100% than from 10% to 80%. Essentially, it is the same principle as charging your cell phone.
Considering that they average driver drives less than 15K miles a year, which is 41 miles a day or 288 miles a week, a 300 mile range is very acceptable. Especially considering that you can plug it in every night and have a fully charged battery when you get up in the morning.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I’ve dealt with polls/surveys in the political realm and I know a voluntary survey open to all is rarely-if ever-accurate. In the case of CR, the only people counted are CR subscribers who choose to respond. That’s not anywhere close to a statistically significant sample.
That said, a good pollster can get a accurate result from a very small group if that group is chosen carefully. A friend who is a pollster conducted a poll two weeks before the 2018 primary and I believe he polled less than 1,000 people. I didn’t find out until after the election but the poll had me up by 3 points with a margin of error of +/- 3 points.
I won by 5 points, and he nailed every other country race as well.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Both of us now have cars without back-up cameras. Who would have thought I would have something in common with driver100? GOD help me! 😜🤪🤓
Mike, you would have been better off buying the C250 for $12000! Both have the same problem!
I think you guys need to stop buying fancy cars and embrace the hooptie lifestyle. The high expectations of perfection in your cars make disappointment inevitable. With a hooptie you don’t expect much and if a part stops working or falls off in the road you’re not too upset.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I think you guys need to stop buying fancy cars and embrace the hooptie lifestyle. The high expectations of perfection in your cars make disappointment inevitable. With a hooptie you don’t expect much and if a part stops working or falls off in the road you’re not too upset.
You may have a point there, anyways I have found out that having a backup camera just means that I have one more thing to check before I back up.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
As usual the news media is pedaling fear porn, simultaneously telling people not to panic buy while showing multiple images of “out of gas” signs on gas pumps and warning of terrible spikes in future prices.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
You mean 300 miles range isn't good enough for you? Well the technology is moving forward with solid state batteries---rather Li-On batteries--- where a 500 mile range and a 10 minute full charge will be the norm. But you have to wait until 2024 for that privilege.
In the meantime, I think 300 mile range is more than enough for the typical driver. Consider a trip from Boston to New York is only 200 miles or four hours of driving. After this much driving one needs a break in which time you can get a top-off to 80% charge in 20 minutes. My son-in-law drives his Tesla Model X from Maryland to Boston with no range anxiety. The trick is not to get a full charge at fill up but only 10% - 80%. In that way you get the maximum range for the shortest refueling time. In other words, it takes twice as much time charging from 80% to 100% than from 10% to 80%. Essentially, it is the same principle as charging your cell phone.
Good explanation, I am now better informed/
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
You mean 300 miles range isn't good enough for you? Well the technology is moving forward with solid state batteries---rather Li-On batteries--- where a 500 mile range and a 10 minute full charge will be the norm. But you have to wait until 2024 for that privilege.
In the meantime, I think 300 mile range is more than enough for the typical driver. Consider a trip from Boston to New York is only 200 miles or four hours of driving. After this much driving one needs a break in which time you can get a top-off to 80% charge in 20 minutes. My son-in-law drives his Tesla Model X from Maryland to Boston with no range anxiety. The trick is not to get a full charge at fill up but only 10% - 80%. In that way you get the maximum range for the shortest refueling time. In other words, it takes twice as much time charging from 80% to 100% than from 10% to 80%. Essentially, it is the same principle as charging your cell phone.
For short runs no problem. But if you are driving from Toronto to Florida, about 1500 miles, do you want to stop every 250 miles and wait 20 minutes for a charge? The Audi only goes 222 miles. And from what I am seeing those are maximum miles when not using the a/c too much etc.
500 miles would be better....but, that confirms my thoughts that it is too early to buy an e-car yet, unless it is just being used for fairly short trips.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Bottom line, the speculators, the commodities market, anyone trading in Fuel will use ANY flimsy excuse to raise prices, regardless of how unrelated to simple economics these price rises are. Give it a few weeks. Demand for gasoline continues to drop precipitously because of the move to EVs. One of the suppliers will try to gain market share a percentage point here or there and either up production, or drop their bbl price (maybe both).
I think you guys need to stop buying fancy cars and embrace the hooptie lifestyle. The high expectations of perfection in your cars make disappointment inevitable. With a hooptie you don’t expect much and if a part stops working or falls off in the road you’re not too upset.
That would make a great ad for a questionable used car lot.
Buy one of our hoopties and you will never be disappointed...you get exactly what you paid for.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
DETROIT — The U.S. government’s auto safety agency is investigating multiple complaints about steering failures that could affect more than 1.1 million Honda Accord sedans.
In documents posted Monday, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it received 31 complaints about the problem and Honda has 77 more. Owners complained about a loss of steering control and the cars veering from their intended travel path. Two crashes and two injuries were reported.
The probe covers Accords from the 2013 through 2015 model years.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-open-probe-of-steering-problems-in-honda-accord-sedans-01620696324
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Especially if it was a Pony.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I guess this is the perfect time to buy a more powerful battery at the auto parts.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
You say that now but just wait until the east coast gas zombies come to your town looking for fuel.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Here he goes down the list of Asian brands, least reliable to most reliable from #8. Hyundai is #4 and Toyota is #1.
In the 2nd video Scotty explains why he chooses each brand and I sense that his reasoning is pretty good....whether you like him or not.
Also, in the case of your Hyundai and your friends Toyota....a comparison of two cars is almost meaningless. Maybe his was a flood car....oh, I know, he bought it new.....OK - I have never heard of a Toyota lemon car in recent history. I am sure they are out there, but they must be rare. I have heard lots of incredible Toyota stories about how people love their Toys.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
In response to @oldfarmer50 and "Tell that to the EV owners in Texas. "
I suspect that was not the biggest concern for most people who were without power during the Great Freeze of 2021. I was using my car to charge my cell phone and wouldn't you know it, the USB ports would not put out power without the ignition switch on. In either the car or the truck. And the cigarette lighter plug was the same.
I think going forward I am going to try and limit myself to one vehicle. The insurance costs ($108 per month, per vehicle) for full coverage is just a little too much to throw away for a second car that just sits there most of the time. I say that right now but give it a few months and I may very well be out there shopping again. But not until the present insanity has passed!
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0
My argument to that is.....like when Mrs D said we could make our next 2nd car an EV. And I said, yeh, remember when my E350 got hit by a big truck and became a write-off, and we only had one car we could use and we had a 300 mile trip we had to make when we only had one car.........
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0
EVs are fine for most driving situations if one is lucky enough to have home charging infrastructure, but a significant amount of people are not so lucky (reply function seems kaput this morning).