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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,937
    driver100 said:

    btw....I copied the whole article about Canadian Lemon Law because of how badly Chrysler does......number of cars going to arbitration is way out of proportion and the number of cars that had to be bought back is huge. I like Jeeps but I don't think I would risk buying any Chryco car....odds aren't good!

    And in other news, the world is round and sewer flows downhill. :smile:
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    Like the price, too bad about the color.
    They have others in colors I like better, but they are only about 1K off.
    http://www.terryvillechevy.com/VehicleDetails/new-2017-Chevrolet-SS-4dr_Sdn-Terryville-CT/2938421703

    I admit that the first time I saw one of those I thought it was a Malibu. Never see any ads for them. 6.2L must make it move. Better vision than a Camaro.

    What kind of performance are we looking at?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    edited March 2017
    Just came back from my outing with my Mustang buddy and what a great time I had. We got his car up on the lift and I got to inspect his exhaust system. Now I know what to do on mine.

    Got the headlights replaced on my Mark VIII because mine were getting pretty cloudy. It was to the point I had to drive with high beams all the time. My son's car scrapper friend just showed up with another Mark VIII on the hook and let me pull off what I wanted. Paid my mechanic friend whose garage we were in a few bucks to install them.

    The highlight of the day was when we pulled into his shop and saw this:






    1966 numbers matching Mustang GT convertible.

    Oh, did I mention that I got to drive it?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    Pretty colors on that '66. Such a change from the all-black interiors 95% of new Mustangs (and most cars these days) have.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    And you can get it for $40k? I say to heck with the color, go for it.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    I'm not a red car person. The other one they have at that price is a metallic orange.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • js06gvjs06gv Member Posts: 460

    I'm not a red car person. The other one they have at that price is a metallic orange.

    I like the orange, but then again I'm a Longhorn. IMO, the SS is one of those cars that pulls off orange quite well.

    2024 Ram 1500 Longhorn, 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium, 2016 Kia Optima SX, 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    @js06gv,
    I'm a long way from Texas ;)
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • js06gvjs06gv Member Posts: 460

    @js06gv,
    I'm a long way from Texas ;)

    You'd have to like the color, but I agree with others here. 40K for that car is a screaming bargain. It's probably already overpriced by a few thousand, but that's wiped out by the fire sale price.

    2024 Ram 1500 Longhorn, 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium, 2016 Kia Optima SX, 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    I would really have to get used to driving a red or orange car.
    It took me at least 5 years to feel comfortable driving my Mustang GT convertible.
    My truck is completely blacked out and there are times when I wish I had something more conservative(more Country Cadillac).
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited March 2017
    @js06gv, I'm a long way from Texas ;)
    Explorer, Texas is soooo big, no one is a long way from Texas!!!   :D

    I drove across Texas from the Louisiana border to the New Mexico border.  I was in Texas the better part of 2 days on I-10.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited March 2017
     
    js06gv said:
    @js06gv, I'm a long way from Texas ;)
    You'd have to like the color, but I agree with others here. 40K for that car is a screaming bargain. It's probably already overpriced by a few thousand, but that's wiped out by the fire sale price.
    With that size engine and that 6-speed  transmission, I have to assume it is a RWD vehicle.  What I'd worry about is the integrity of the body and it's road hugging ability.  What's the suspension like?  Tires and wheel specs?  Lots of questions for a 4-door sedan.  :o

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Like the price, too bad about the color.
    They have others in colors I like better, but they are only about 1K off.
    http://www.terryvillechevy.com/VehicleDetails/new-2017-Chevrolet-SS-4dr_Sdn-Terryville-CT/2938421703

    It looks like a bmw 3 Series fighter. Similar look and dimensions....strong engine, great price considering.

    Wonder what the reviews are like? I almost never see them, just in ads in the newspaper. It is like Chevy's greatest secret.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681

    Like the price, too bad about the color.
    They have others in colors I like better, but they are only about 1K off.
    http://www.terryvillechevy.com/VehicleDetails/new-2017-Chevrolet-SS-4dr_Sdn-Terryville-CT/2938421703

    I admit that the first time I saw one of those I thought it was a Malibu. Never see any ads for them. 6.2L must make it move. Better vision than a Camaro.
    Isn't this the Holden equivalent of the Malibu? I recall seeing one at a hopped-up techie type local cruise in on the other side of town. They had a Malibu and the SS parked side-by-side. Very similar.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    I spoke too soon. The review sounds OK so far. No real road test, but fully equipped, 415 hp, not bad looking, not too far out styling....for low $40ks....sounds good so far.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316


    Isn't this the Holden equivalent of the Malibu? I recall seeing one at a hopped-up techie type local cruise in on the other side of town. They had a Malibu and the SS parked side-by-side. Very similar.

    No, this is a RWD platform. I think it is the same chassis as the Pontiac G8 and the Caprice police car, but I dunno for sure since they aren't sold up here.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    It is a Holden made in Australia.......2017 is last chance to get a Chevy V8. Reviews are pretty good but not great, high depreciation. Nicely packaged and all, but, I think it won't be a highly prized car in a few years time.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    We looked at them last fall. It's a loaded vehicle, but I wasn't willing to pay 1k under MSRP.
    These may be the same cars I looked at back then.
    Ended up buying the Fusion, which is a good car, although engine is less the 1/4 the size of the engine in the SS.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    driver100 said:
    Like the price, too bad about the color. They have others in colors I like better, but they are only about 1K off. http://www.terryvillechevy.com/VehicleDetails/new-2017-Chevrolet-SS-4dr_Sdn-Terryville-CT/2938421703
    It looks like a bmw 3 Series fighter. Similar look and dimensions....strong engine, great price considering. Wonder what the reviews are like? I almost never see them, just in ads in the newspaper. It is like Chevy's greatest secret.
    Not sure about "greatest secret" driver - $10,000+ off MSRP and I, too, have never seen one.  Orange would be a great color with the black interior.  You can order any color interior you want, "...so long as it's black!"  Car is very intriguing!!! B)

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    driver100 said:

    It is a Holden made in Australia.......2017 is last chance to get a Chevy V8. Reviews are pretty good but not great, high depreciation. Nicely packaged and all, but, I think it won't be a highly prized car in a few years time.

    Another car to get as a lease return for a low, low price.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    We looked at them last fall. It's a loaded vehicle, but I wasn't willing to pay 1k under MSRP.
    These may be the same cars I looked at back then.
    Ended up buying the Fusion, which is a good car, although engine is less the 1/4 the size of the engine in the SS.

    Yes but the gas milage is 1/4 that of the Fusion.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    @oldfarmer,
    That's true :) I bought the Fusion in late October, and I only have 2300 miles on it, so I'm not too concerned about fuel mileage.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    edited March 2017
    I was just reading a Best Buy flyer when this fine print for a smartphone caught my eye. 'We will fix or replace it." Not sure if the ad was referring to their Geek Squad warranty or the original manufacturer product warranty.

    Assuming a timely claim is filed within the wsrranty period,  who really pays the claim in such situations? And how is that different from a car dealer? Doesn't the dealer warrant his product? 
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    A little Saturday night humor....

    Comedy of errors :

    A man checked into a hotel. There was  a computer in his room, so he decided to send a mail to his wife.  he accidentally typed the wrong email address, and without realizing he sent the mail to a widow who has just returned from her husband's funeral.

    The widow decided to check her mail, expecting condolence messages from relatives and friends. After reading the first message she fainted. The son rushed into the room, found his mother on the floor and saw the computer screen which read: 

    'to my loving wife, i know you are surprised to hear from me, they have  computers here and we are allowed to send mails to loved ones. I 've just been checked in. How are you and the kids? The place is really nice but am lonely here. I have made necessary arrangement for your arrival tomorrow. Expecting you  darling. I can't wait to see you.

     
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Cute joke.

    On a completely different topic we saw Hidden Figures today....excellent must see movies if you like a "based on a true story" movie. Quite moving and a real eye opener. Also, lots of nice late 50s early 60s cars in beautiful condition.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    abacomike said:


    driver100 said:

    Like the price, too bad about the color.
    They have others in colors I like better, but they are only about 1K off.
    http://www.terryvillechevy.com/VehicleDetails/new-2017-Chevrolet-SS-4dr_Sdn-Terryville-CT/2938421703

    It looks like a bmw 3 Series fighter. Similar look and dimensions....strong engine, great price considering.

    Wonder what the reviews are like? I almost never see them, just in ads in the newspaper. It is like Chevy's greatest secret.

    Not sure about "greatest secret" driver - $10,000+ off MSRP and I, too, have never seen one.  Orange would be a great color with the black interior.  You can order any color interior you want, "...so long as it's black!"  Car is very intriguing!!! B)

    It is an interesting car, and at $40k it is a bargain, but, I would rather spring for a bit more and get something I would be more confident in. After hearing about GGs dilemma (or dilemna) I am staying away from the unusual and unproven. Warranties don't mean a whole lot, and going through the lemon process ain't easy. I'll stick with the less risky choices..

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    edited March 2017
    The Chevy SS might not depreciate like you think. 2016s with under 10k are $38k at the block and 2015s with 24-30k are $32k.

    So figure $34-$35k retail on a 2-yr-old model. Makes that $40k 2017 look all that much better.

    I'd wager it is probably pretty reliable given at least the engine is an old tried and true. I don't believe that has the magnetic ride, which is a shame. It is a pretty big and heavy car. At least 5-series size, if not larger.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    driver100 said:
    Cute joke. On a completely different topic we saw Hidden Figures today....excellent must see movies if you like a "based on a true story" movie. Quite moving and a real eye opener. Also, lots of nice late 50s early 60s cars in beautiful condition.
    Saw that yesterday myself. Loved it.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    And let there be warmth.

    Well it appears in Boston that Daylight Savings Time has turned into Winter Savings Time. It is currently 8 degrees outside and we are expecting a foot or more of snow on Tuesday.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    bwia said:

    And let there be warmth.

    Well it appears in Boston that Daylight Savings Time has turned into Winter Savings Time. It is currently 8 degrees outside and we are expecting a foot or more of snow on Tuesday.

    I heard the "B" word on the Boston radio station I briefly listened to in the middle of the night. (Blizzard.)

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    bwia said:

    And let there be warmth.

    Well it appears in Boston that Daylight Savings Time has turned into Winter Savings Time. It is currently 8 degrees outside and we are expecting a foot or more of snow on Tuesday.

    When I went to bed last night my weather station said it was -2F outside. Ridiculous for this time of year. We are supposed to get that snow on Wednesday, but last night they started hedging their bets by saying it might turn to rain for us.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    qbrozen said:

    The Chevy SS might not depreciate like you think. 2016s with under 10k are $38k at the block and 2015s with 24-30k are $32k.

    So figure $34-$35k retail on a 2-yr-old model. Makes that $40k 2017 look all that much better.

    I'd wager it is probably pretty reliable given at least the engine is an old tried and true. I don't believe that has the magnetic ride, which is a shame. It is a pretty big and heavy car. At least 5-series size, if not larger.

    It is as big as a 5er and it is classified as a large car. Most reviews are kind, I think this one is very realistic: Part of it (I know it is a lot for JM to try to read in one sitting)

    They updated the Chevrolet SS for 2016. Maybe you missed it. Maybe you missed that the SS exists at all—the car sells in microscopic numbers, with a blueprint that few people want these days: naturally aspirated V-8, rear-wheel-drive, an available manual transmission. The model is the namesake for Chevrolet's current NASCAR stocker. These days, that means nothing save that the race car was purposely given cosmetic cues that recall those of the street car. The street car, in turn, got a decent marketing push from the most popular form of motorsport in America.

    Maybe that push helped sales in a nontrivial fashion. Maybe the moon will fall into the sun tomorrow and we'll all turn into three-eyed fish. These things are equally likely, but it doesn't matter, because the SS seems to exist apart from logic. It will pull a whopping 0.97 g on a skidpad and rip to 60 mph in 4.6 seconds. It produces an EPA-certified 15 miles per gallon in city driving, less if you're being rude. It has Delphi magnetorheological shocks as standard, technology shared with Ferraris and the odd Corvette. And it is everything we don't need right now, at least in terms of carbon output and automated solutions to the traffic problem.

    FULL REVIEW

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    That's an interesting take on a review, where it says next to nothing about the car itself or how it drives in the real world.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,594
    Even we got some snow, wet and messy. It will probably melt this afternoon, temp is right at 32 and will warm later.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    Standard poodles? Cool dogs.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    sda said:

    Even we got some snow, wet and messy. It will probably melt this afternoon, temp is right at 32 and will warm later.

    Looks like a couple of bears got into your yard. :p

    We're getting forecasts for 6-10 inches because the storm is tracking more eastward. A little more to the east and Boston will get it all and Nova Scotia will get all snow.

    Hate to wish ill on my Edmunds friends but I hope the storm gets a little farther east and spares me altogether.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,594
    edited March 2017
    ab348 said:

    Standard poodles? Cool dogs.

    They are sisters, about 3 1/2 years old, first generation Golden Doodles. The mom is a standard poodle parti and the dad a golden retriever. Wonderful dogs!

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,516
    For those of you who don't follow Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous, I inked a deal yesterday to trade in my 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium with 47K miles for a CPO 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD (G37x if you haven't kept up with Infiniti's nomenclature changes) with under 7,500 miles.  I'm very excited!

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    SS, from the review by RT
    "No, the SS lives because General Motors wants a $47,000, 415-hp, five-passenger sedan in showrooms. And that's fine with us, because we like the car. It's involving and fast and goofy and relatively simple, and the industry generally doesn't do frivolous things any more. It's also old-school as hell, which means we get to go off on comparison-test tangents like this. (Spoiler: The car is basically a modern-day BMW E39 M5.)"

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126
    OldFarmer......OK....impressions of driving a 50+ year old Mustang?
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126
    SS related.....a work colleague has one. I've not driven it, only riden in it. It's a hoot. Hard to argue the fun factor. The real question is, can you live with it as a daily driver? My colleague says somedays he wishes the car would just "settle down".

    Suydam.....a parishioner at my church just let me do a brief drive in his new Volt. Impressive. It quietly leaps off the line. Pretty comfy. Has all the features, so assuming it's the same trim as yours. Not sure of the MSRP, but he said he cut a good deal as it was listed as a "yellow tag" (not sure what that is, either).

    Not sure what it's like on the highway, but the brief side street drive I did tells me it would be a good "in-town" car. He's had it a month and said he's yet to hit the gas station. He's charging it with the standard outlet in his garage.

    Tesla who?
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,582
    The beauty of cars like the Volt vs. Tesla is no range anxiety
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:

    That's an interesting take on a review, where it says next to nothing about the car itself or how it drives in the real world.

    Most reviews liked the SS quite a bit....this review was more of the guys impressions, and they struck a chord with me. Australian made, V8 engine, naturally aspirated, 14 mpg, sells in tiny numbers, what could possibly go wrong?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    sda said:

    ab348 said:

    Standard poodles? Cool dogs.

    They are sisters, about 3 1/2 years old, first generation Golden Doodles. The mom is a standard poodle parti and the dad a golden retriever. Wonderful dogs!
    Yes, great dogs. We have a Poodle/Yorkie mix. She is 8 years old and smarter than me. Yeah, I know, low bar.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    nyccarguy said:

    For those of you who don't follow Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous, I inked a deal yesterday to trade in my 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium with 47K miles for a CPO 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD (G37x if you haven't kept up with Infiniti's nomenclature changes) with under 7,500 miles.  I'm very excited!

    Sounds good! I hope you take the time to tell us more details over here on C&C. I love the buying experience with the CPO C250. Getting a car with about one years mileage for 30 to 35% off the original price....just nicely broken in. Suburu's are great cars....but, the Q40 is going to be "special".

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,075
    carnaught said:

    The beauty of cars like the Volt vs. Tesla is no range anxiety

    Absolutely. I like the Volt so much that I've been toying with the idea of getting a Bolt somewhere down the line. Then I read a blog of someone who took her Bolt on a road trip. Even in California there just isn't enough charging infrastructure to make that work well. The Volt is great as a roadtripper even when you start using the gas engine. Plenty of power and you get hybrid FE.
    @nyccarguy , congrats on your soon-to-be purchase! I look forward to hearing about it more once it's in your garage. Is it AWD?
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    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Cool dogs sda

    I was trying to locate the Fuccillo ad where the disclaimers are read at 400 words per minute but couldn't get it online. Did read about this lawsuit that was settled for $1.6 million. Briefly:


    Billy Fuccillo's auto business and 18 of its Upstate dealerships have agreed to a $1.6 million court settlement involving the sale of theft-protection packages, which were marketed prior to 2008.

    Some 5,320 car buyers who bought the $295 theft-protection package from Fuccillo dealerships - including Fuccillo Hyundai of Syracuse -- are entitled to payments of $160 each, according to a settlement approved in November by U.S. District Judge Lawrence Kahn in Albany.

    Cars came with the $295 theft-protection package, which included two components: The car's vehicle identification number was etched into the window; and the buyer was entitled to a 10 percent discount toward the purchase of a new car, or $2,000, if the Elantra was stolen and not recovered.

    The class-action suit claimed that the theft-protection package was an illegal insurance policy, because it was administered by a company that was not a licensed insurer, Universal Automotive Services, of New Jersey.

    The lawsuit also claimed that the theft-deterrent value of the service was exaggerated and over-priced, because the cost of etching the VIN into the window was only $20 to $50. New cars by law already have VINs installed in 18 locations on the vehicle, according to the lawsuit.

    According to court papers, the Auto Theft Security Discount was sold to roughly 16,200 customers, who were notified in August about the settlement. Of those, 5,320 submitted claim forms by the Oct. 31 deadline and will be paid, court records show.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    OldFarmer......OK....impressions of driving a 50+ year old Mustang?

    +1

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,516
    @suydam - yes, my "new" Q40 is AWD.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

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