Toyota Highlander Maintenance and Repair

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  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    I didn't have to go because Toyota didn't contact me. So I didn't have to go. It doesn't affect all highlanders, just some.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    I have come to suspect that the engine/transaxle ECU controlling firmware is designed to try to "predict" what your next "action" will be in certain cases and/or circumstances.

    Back in the fifties when automatics were just becoming available I remember being told that if I wanted the transmission to upshift sooner then I could momentarily lift the accelerator pedal lightly.

    Nowadays many of us have BA, Brake Assist, wherein the firmware is seemingly designed to "watch" the rate at which our foot moves from the accelerator pedal to the brake (or maybe even the RATE at which the pedal is lifted and the brake is applied..??) in order to determine if this is a PANIC stop and if so then provide assistance with SEVERE braking.

    Late in the last century there was a white paper published by Sierra Research in CA that suggested that a 9.8% fleetwide improvement in FE could be readily achieved with existing, current, vehicles via adoption of several engine/transaxle control routines.

    Foremost among those was something referred to as ASL, Aggressive shift Logic. Basically this idea was to UPSHIFT the transaxle AGGRESSIVELY, as soon as feasible in every circumstance.

    So, suppose, like those analog computers (hydraulically powered computers) transmission control systems of the fifties modern day engine/transaxle ECU firmware is "watching" your overall actions with the accelerator and brake pedals in an effort to extend the fuel economy by more quickly getting into a higher gear.

    My 1988 Porsche 911 is sort of a poor example but an example none-the-less. It has a little indicator (which I have learned to totally ignore) on the instrument panel to let me know "when" an upshift is appropriate to best conserve fuel.

    Could you possibly avoid the upshifting sequence by modifying the rate and level at which you lift the gas pedal when you want to coast down to a lower speed, NOT to enter cruise mode??

    May be..!!

    Try this. When you see that you may wish to change from a coast down mode to acceleration, say during merging into higher speed traffic from an acceleration lane, lift the accelerator pedal QUICKLY and COMPLETELY.

    That should be a very DEFINITIVE indication to the engine/transaxle ECU control firmware that your desire is to coast down to a lower speed, NOT to enter cruise mode in which case an upshift would be appropriate.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Maybe I'm totally wrong but it seems to me that the clear majority of these complaints (at least the ones definite enough to be grouped together)of engine/transaxle delay/hesitation occurances throughout the various forums on the internet involve FWD or front biased AWD vehicles of Toyota or Lexus manufacture.

    And we have now learned, via insurance industry statistical data, that having ABS is a slight detriment, overall, to prevention of injury accidents. To be specific it appears that single vehicle accidents, accidents involving vehicles equipped with ABS, are inordinately high. No explanation has been forthcoming as of yet.

    But let's suppose the insurance industry has looked at those statistics and determined that FWD and front torque biased AWD systems have a much higher accident rate (obviously adjusted by ratio of each) than RWD and rear torque biased AWD vehicles.

    Wouldn't the insurance industry somehow convey those statistics to the automotive industry? And wouldn't that motivate the industry to try to alleviate the "problems" with FWD versus RWD.

    Look at what Acura is doing with SH-AWD.

    Is the Toyota/Lexus engine/transaxle delay/hesitation symptom, the one that seemingly cannot be "fixed" in four long years, just based on the need to improve FE, or also
    the result of the need to remove engine compression braking from the front wheels of FWD and front biased AWD vehicles?

    Apparently the American Automobile Association thinks so.

    AAA is currently recommending that owners of clutchless (transaxle) vehicles practice shifting the transaxle into neutral in preparation for the day that needs to be done quickly to prevent total loss of control on a slippery roadbed surface.
  • herzogtum71herzogtum71 Member Posts: 470
    The report I read a long while back indicated that vehicles with ABS were slightly more likely to be involved in accidents than non-ABS vehicles. The explanation was that drivers were not using the ABS as recommended but instead were pumping the brakes as is the procedure with non-ABS.
  • socnissocnis Member Posts: 7
    You are right. I took it to the dealership, they told me about the U-joint being bad and showed me a diagram, saying the binding mechanism is loose because of U-joint and the loose parts are making the noise under the driver side floor. Anybody had it fixed? Is it under power train warranty? Mine is 56k on the odometer.
  • socnissocnis Member Posts: 7
    How much is it usually? Just the bumper cover.
  • jfitz9jfitz9 Member Posts: 1
    I had the same "clunking" noise in the steering. Dealership replaced the steering shaft under warranty. It solved the problem.
  • mike342mike342 Member Posts: 15
    My 02 Highlander, with 53K miles, developed a burning smell in the past few months. The smell is like burning rubber and appears to be coming from some where under the hood. The dealer has been unable to provide a reason or solution. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks
  • tomsr1tomsr1 Member Posts: 130
    On my garage floor I always find a puddle.It appears to be from the coolant reservoir but it is not pink. If it is
    A/C condensate it is no big deal.The top of the coolant
    reservoir has dried pink residue around the top. What is it?
    It has done it since new.
  • socnissocnis Member Posts: 7
    Does anyone have experience in cleaning spots and stains on cloth car seats? I tried to clean with a upholstery cleaning foam that I bought from Walmart, while it did remove the dirt spots, it leaves a circle of watermark, just like a large coffee stain, which is really annoying, i don't know how to get rid of them. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
  • webgoodwebgood Member Posts: 95
    Not sure if this'll do it, but it will NOT harm anything or make it worse...try Tech Stain Remover from your local hardware store or (www.techstainremover.com). Stuff works GREAT!!! Have used it for years on every fabric imaginable including fine clothing, upholstery and carpet and car seats. Just follow the directions. (and no, I don't sell it or work for 'em) Good luck.
  • kam108kam108 Member Posts: 16
    I've found some very UPSETTING INFORMATION relating to my highlander accident. Upon filing a complaint with NHTSA, I decided to read complaints of other Toyota model owners-mostly the Camry on which the Highlander is based. THERE ARE NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS IDENTICAL TO MINE! FOOT WAS PLACED ON BRAKE, AND A SEVERE ENGINE/VEHICLE SURGING/ACCELERATION FOLLOWED, AND THE BRAKES CANNOT CONTROL OR EVEN STOP THE VEHICLE!!! UNLIKE ME, SOME OF THE OTHER DRIVERS EVEN HAD WITNESSES, AND HAD IT HAPPEN TO THEM MORE THAN ONCE! ONE PERSON SAID HE LEARNED THAT THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THE VEHICLE WAS TO TURN OFF THE KEY! How much more dangerous can a vehicle be?? Several of these people had severe accidents, and were told by Toyota that they had not had similar complaints, and of course, they could find nothing wrong with the vehicle. FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I DON'T KNOW HOW TOYOTA IS GETTING AWAY WITH THIS! WHAT IS WRONG HERE? There are numerous complaints of this surging issue and the hesitation issue, and nothing is being done. I imagine that just like me, the other people that have had accidents traded their dangerous vehicles in losing thousands of dollars in the process. I wish we could find out each other's names somehow so that we could file a joint suit against Toyota.
    I have filed a complaint with the attorney general's office, but not have gotten a lawyer because I feel I've already lost enough money. thanks for letting me sound off. It's been a couple of months since my accident, and it still enrages me! By the way, I traded in my Highlander for a 2006 Mitsubishi Galant. It's a fabulous car, and drives just the way you would expect a car to drive!!
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    While NHTSA has begun an investigation of sudden acceleration in Toyota products there have been and are investigations of similar problems in almost all brands of vehicles.

    tidester, host
  • desertfox1desertfox1 Member Posts: 80
    Does anyone notice a clunk when going in reverse, about 3-10 feet back? I just got my HiHy Limited, AWD, and it scrares the heck out of me. I slam on the brakes, thinking I ran over something! Can't say for sure it happens everytime but it happens a lot (will monitor occurance).
  • edhedh Member Posts: 246
    my key will not unlock the drivers door. will open passenger door, will unlock drivers door and works fine in ignition.
    drivers door lock problem?
  • heart2heart2 Member Posts: 38
    Considering buying SUV and narrowed it down to Highlander or Pilot. Just test drove both. Highlander drives more like car and was more comfortable than Pilot even though Pilot slightly larger dimensions. Pilot more powerful but am not looking to race them. Any comments?
  • kam108kam108 Member Posts: 16
    I have found the NHTSA website to be a wealth of knowledge when researching cars. I didn't even know about this site before I purchased my HL. If I had, I wouldn't have bought it. I believe there probably are other brands that may have this problem, but I did research several brands that I was interested in.
    It's very interesting. Almost all of them have distinct problems that are reported repeatedly(such as pulling to the right, brake problems, airbag deployment, etc). I steered clear of those. But the Toyota hesitation and sudden acceleration problems really stood out. I may have seen one or two complaints of it in the other cars I researched, but nothing like the number and severity of the Toyota's. Quite frankly,I found it to be very alarming.
    I've been driving for 38 years, and have driven many brands of vehicles including Toyota. I have never had a vehicle behave as scary as my Highlander.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    This sounds like the brake pads on the disc brakes moving in their seats, a normal noise. It tends to be most noticable first thing in the morning and you can probably replicate it if you then put the car in drive and pull forward a similar distance.

    The brake pads are held within a cage (calipers) and are lightly sprung to hold them in whilst still allowing movement as the brakes are applied. The actual movement fore and aft within the calipers is very small, probably less than 5mm (say 2/10 of an inch) but makes a noticable noise when first used.

    If it really bugs you, trying backing into the garage and driving out.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • landdriverlanddriver Member Posts: 607
    kam: Thanks for keeping us posted on this.
  • landdriverlanddriver Member Posts: 607
    This also sounds like it's the ABS self-test that occurs every time you start the HL -- it's briefly mentioned in the manual.
  • lgjavalgjava Member Posts: 48
    Well, you know the attorney general's office can get you a free lawyer if you can't pay for one. But the best decision was probably to deep-six the car. It's very good that you filed a complaint though. I had to brake without warning last year, and I barely stopped in time. The brakes locked and I skidded to a stop. I'd hate to see what would have happened on wet pavement!
  • bfickbfick Member Posts: 1
    Glass is cracked on fog light of 05 highlander; bulb still works. Am having trouble finding a source for replacement glass online; do I actually need to replace the entire fog light assembly? Also, not clear how I can get access since bumper assembly appears closed from behind. Thanks for any suggestions.
  • skicrazyskicrazy Member Posts: 5
    I can't find the acceleration issue mentioned on the NHTSA web site. Can you point me in the right direction? :surprise:
  • kam108kam108 Member Posts: 16
    When on their website, look for the link at the top where you would file a complaint. It's the middle one. When you click on that you can choose to view complaints. You then input the vehicle info one step at a time(they call it the drilldown method). The last step has you picking a vehicle type. pc is for passenger car, and mpv is for multipurpose vehicle.
    You can also view recalls and investigations here. Note: investigations are different than complaints.
  • vishweshvishwesh Member Posts: 2
    I was almost decided to go for Highlander 06, Sports Edition. I swear this "accelerator sticking" problem shook my feet. I told my dealer I am not taking this vehicle.
    I can't imagine paying around 30K and falling off a hill probably :-)
  • tomsr1tomsr1 Member Posts: 130
    I have a 2004 Highlander and just received a recall notice.
    It is in regards to the panel by drivers right foot.It says to bring it in and have upgraded clips installed to prevent the panel from coming loose and obstructing the throttle cable movement.I see nothing wrong with it myself and have had no problems with over 36K miles.It is too much of a
    hassle to take it to service for a nonissue.
  • slingshot80slingshot80 Member Posts: 55
    Test drove one today and I thought the pick-up was weak and there was significant noise from under the vehicle, sounded like the transmission was struggling or the engine was rough. This was a 6 cylinder with 187 miles on it. Can't imagine driving a four cylinder.

    It was pouring out and they said that was the reason for the noise so I may go back on a sunny day and drive another one. Any comments anyone? :confuse:
  • landdriverlanddriver Member Posts: 607
    Have a V6 AWD, don't experience a rough engine/transmission/noise from under vehicle, have not been any posts to this effect (save for one or two isolated engine vibration issues posted a few years ago), and weak pick-up doesn't sound right. Seems like it may have a problem -- test drive another V6 for comparison.
  • herzogtum71herzogtum71 Member Posts: 470
    You won't think it's a non-issue if the clips fail and interfere with your ability to use the pedals. I had the recall work done while the vehicle was in for routine service. If you make a special trip to have the work done, it reportedly takes a half hour or less. An ounce of prevention.....
  • socnissocnis Member Posts: 7
    After the dealer replaced my steering shaft, the steering column clunking is gone. But the noise and feeling of something moving under the driver's side floor remain, I took it back to the dealer, they said they couldn't feel it, I have no idea why, maybe they always keep their left foot forward near the brake pedal. I usually put my left foot back close to the seat when i'm driving, and i can clearly feel and hear that something is moving under my left foot, beneath the floor, something mechanical, it happens often when i start from still position, making a turn(relatively sharp turn), or even when i brake, but not everytime when i do these. What's directly under the driverside floor? Anyone has any idea at all.
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    I'm just gonna WAG something. Perhaps you have a bad engine mount which allows for excessive engine displacement when applying the pedal or applying the brake.

    Perhaps crawl under the vehicle and look for missing exhaust system hangers. If the engine is moving, maybe a part of the exhaust is comming in contact with the under-body.

    Then again, maybe there is something amiss in the steering / suspension (a loose control arm or shock or something).

    Hard to say.
  • j06j06 Member Posts: 90
    Its not an issue... its just activating the ABS ...

    even from 99 sienna
  • pz1234pz1234 Member Posts: 4
    This is a weird thing I just noticed after about 2 years of having this car.
    I bought the carpet floor mats option..nothing special here..
    Today I noticed that the carpet mat for the 3rd row seat seams to have been "sliced" to fit the width of the interior. It's not like it was torn by accident because if it were, it would be a bigger mess. This definitely looks like it was done on purpose. And it looks like what would've been the original carpeting, the coloring matches, the style matches, etc.. but it's weird that it was cut like that to fit around obstructions and to fit the width.
    Anyone else have this same situation?
    again, this is the carpet floor mat that was placed for the 3rd row seat.
  • j06j06 Member Posts: 90
    I have a 06 HL just 100 miles on it...

    When i shift the gear from Park to reverse, it makes little hard noise... its only happens when shifting from park to reverse... its any problem or its just common..

    or i am being too sensitive :P
  • roadrunner70roadrunner70 Member Posts: 241
    250 PLUS LABOR. JUST HAD IT DONE.
  • motownusamotownusa Member Posts: 836
    My guess is ABS initiation kicking in. Perfectly normal.
  • mike342mike342 Member Posts: 15
    My 02 6 cylinder Highlander has developed a burning rubber smell. It seems to be coming from the engine. Has anyone else experienced this?
  • sweckelsweckel Member Posts: 1
    We just purchased an '05 HL. I wish I had test drove it on the highway. On the way home after our happy purchase we heard a high pitch whine (like when you're tuning a radio) when we got to 72mph or more. It increases with acceleration. I've taken it to the dealer three times now. They've tightened the roof rack, check the window seals, etc. I admit my ears are sensitive but this gives me a headache. The dealership is done working with us and suggested we contact Toyo. Corp. for our area. Has anyone had this problem? Has anyone dealt with the corporation and have some advice?
  • martsandpmartsandp Member Posts: 2
    Remove #3DRL relay which is a 5 prong and replace it with a new #2 or #4 relay 63.50$ which is a 4 prong. Works great no more DRLs.
  • raymurraymur Member Posts: 29
    I don't know if anyone else has experienced this problem or not. I purchased an used 2001 Highlander about 6 months ago. Within the last 2 months when getting in the car after it has been sitting overnight, with the windows up I notice a strong odor. It's hard to identify, I have tried Fabreze and few other odor removers to no avail. I'd appreciate it if anyone has any suggestions.
  • tixtix Member Posts: 27
    I have dealt with Toyota corporation and they and their dealership were not helpful in anyway. I had a broken sunroof on a Highlander that was only 2 years old and only 2,000 miles out of warranty. I felt that a sunroof should have a little longer warranty than all the other working parts of a car because, of course you do not use a sunroof very often (at least I didn't). Now I have a broken sunroof, which leaks (unless it has a seal of duct tape on it) and it will never work unless I am willing to spend $1,400 to fix it (which again seems a little unreasonable because a sunroof only cost $900 on the sticker price.......Good luck.
  • desertguydesertguy Member Posts: 730
    That is why I got the Toyota Platinum warranty with my new Toyota. Seven years, 100,000 miles with no deductible. It cost me $805 and I never get these things but for the price, I thought it a good deal. It covers everything on the car except wear items such as brake linings,wipers tires, etc.
  • tixtix Member Posts: 27
    The more I read and hear about Toyota, buying the extended warranty is probably a good idea these days. I don't recall being offered such a deal. I have purchased extended warranties for my Chrysler and Chevy cars, but believed that wasn't needed with a Toyota. Its too bad that Toyota has started to slip.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Go to airsept.com and read up on their EED, Electronic Evaporator Dryer. If the description fits it will help greatly to lower the windows slightly while the car sets inside the garage overnight, EVERY night.
  • rugby65rugby65 Member Posts: 81
    Does your HL have a cabin air filter? if so check to see if it's ever been replaced.

    A smoker might have owned the Vehicle before you or mabey a dog owner.

    It will smell worse after sitting awhile because of the stale air and then get a little better after you have run the air conditioner/cold air has less odor.
  • pawels1pawels1 Member Posts: 2
    Does anyone’s car exhibit a similar problem?

    My 04' Highlander 4WD with 70k started exhibiting noise and vibration coming from the engine bay or from underneath the car. I can clearly distinguish the noise over the engine/road sound. The noise and vibration start at speeds of about 25Mph and they are most noticeable at about 60Mph. The vibration frequency and noise pitch are speed related. They do not change when I put the engine into neutral, or shift to lower gears. They both go away when the car turns left, even slightly, for example during lane changes.

    I believe that this noise is the symptom a problem with the front differential. Does any one know what is the cost of replacement of the front differential/central transfer case on a HL?

    Thanks,

    P.
  • landdriverlanddriver Member Posts: 607
    Excellent advice on the cabin air filter except the '01 HL doesn't have one (unless if the previous owner retrofitted an '02 filter).

    Given the problem surfaced a few months after ownership it's possible it's a new problem. If this began coincidental with using the AC in the summer then perhaps the plastic drain tube that normally drains the condensation to the ground outside the vehicle has somehow gotten tucked inside the vehicle and is draining onto the floorboard under the carpet.
  • nejem666nejem666 Member Posts: 2
    I drove a '02 HL Limited before buying it and while I was driving it I noticed something similar to what you are experiencing. at 25+ mph some little grinding noise from below and slight vibration, and the pitch changes with speed regardless of which gear you're in.

    I asked the dealer to have it inspected by Toyota and the result came pointing to Rear Wheel Bearing. It was changed, on their expense so I really don't know how much it'd cost.

    Hope this helps.
  • eddieeeddiee Member Posts: 25
    If the sound could be described as a 'distant siren' noise you could check out posting #2682. Mine is an 02 so they may have fixed this problem with the 04 but perhaps not.
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