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MSRP $25,355
Options: 6 speed and rear spoiler
Standard: Leather, Air, CD, BOSE, PW/PL,Cruise, 16in wheels with locks, fog lights, power mirrors, torsen limited slip diff.
My questions are:
1. Dealer is offering $21,500. Is that a good deal? Considering he has ove 10 2001s, would'nt $19,500 be more reasonable?
2. He told me the car has ABS, but I don't see it on the equipment list? Is he mistaken or what?
3. Does this car come with Sports suspension or did it start with 2002 model?
Post ASAP!! I want the car!!
Why? I checked a local no-haggle dealer, and they have a 2002 that MSRPs for $25450 (close to yours) that is selling for $23,015.
So a $1500 discount for a left over seems more than reasonable, it's a bargain.
I'd buy it. If you are flexible, wait until he's got 3 left and then go back, but I doubt he can go much lower to be honest.
-juice
turn the key to the on position and wait for the dummy lights on the instrument panel. if you see ABS, the car has it. you can also pop the hood and look for the ABS controller, it's unmistakable with numerous brake hardlines all over it.
-Colin
-juice
PS I seriously doubt it has ABS if you can't find it on the Monroney sticker
http://www.miata.net/garage/ignition_switch.html
I found that this car was the most fun to drive in this auto-simulation game. The game was also handy for choosing and displaying colors-crystal blue..
I have previously owned a 69 spitefire convertible and a 87 toyota mr-2 tbar coupe and sold both in time for more practical transportation...haha...the kids are now 21 and in their own vehicles...kiss practical byebye.
Tested a 02 mustang gt convert....very cushy but the windshield was right in my face and made it feel non-convertiblish. I'm selling my V-star 1100 motorcycle as I'm tired of the lonely rides...I can now talk to my wife beside me without the annoying helmet and leathers.
I feel the miata is closer to a gocart ride rather than a motorcycle ride- bikes have a center of gravity closer to that of a halfton driver...thus I feel safer and more in control in the miata... I enjoyed reading 950 prior messages in this site...feel like family!
http://www.miataforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
Congrats, base models are great, you don't need all the bells and whistles in a pure sports car.
-juice
Even if you did get lucky and end up with one of the worlds best cars ;-)
needed a third car anyway, wanted a convertible, forgot about the Miata (is it pronounced MYata or Meata)until playstation, then I took test drives on a base 5 speed and a loaded LS 6speed, the test drives sold the car, as we had to order one anyway I used playstion to compare colors etc. Now that the sale is a done deal I've just sold my highway motorcyle as this car also replaces it (other foolery)...I pickup the car in 1 hour and have the sunny afternoon off......byebye
Anyone know anything about its' successor?
Yeah, I got that. Okay, I'm ready.
Those have the 1.6l engine, efficient but not as torquey as the 1994 and on models. They got the rear chassis brace but not the front (easy and under $40 if you want to do that). The brake rotots are a little small, though, if you plan on autocrossing.
What else? They are pre-OBD, so mods are a cinch and no CELs. The oil pressure gauge actually works, I think that was the last year before the dummy gauge replaced them.
I've been 100% happy with my Crystal White "C" Package.
-juice
I've always been a Miata fan actually but never owned one because of the tightness of the driver's cockpit. I would really need to change the seats or something, but I think I could work it out. I only need about 2 more inches to be comfortable. I think about $2,000 in mods would give me the Miata I really want.
Is it possible to gain additional legroom or headroom with different seats in a Miata? I had to scratch it off my list due to lack of overall room, and I recall (scratching my head here) that there wasn't a lot of give in the seat cushion or bolstering in order to create more room with aftermarket seats...?
sphinx - Admittedly, Shifty has always said nice things about the Miata. The only thing he won't give it is "soul". Maybe a Miata with three cylinders has enough soul for him.
I have a Miata and have never really thought about its looks. I like the way it drives. I can think of a lot of cars that would be fun to drive but would not stop me from looking at the driver if she were pretty.
I'll admit it's cramped.
-juice
-juice
I prefer the last generation RX-7 looks only because it is more original. In black on black, oh, man, that car is gorgeous. But it shares with the Miata the classic simplicity and uncluttered lines that I like in a sports car. No junk added on. Naked like a racing horse.
I do think that the Miata needs a bigger dose of personality as do most Japanese cars. They are made with efficiency in mind and they are designed to be overall crowd pleasers. Think of a Miata as someone at a party trying to offend no one. They are pleasantly popular but we are more apt to remember the wild man who fired the revolver into the ceiling. Of course, the wild man gets invited to fewer parties---not a good sales strategy for an inexpensive car.
I believe a 3 cylinder Miata might beat my Alfa, that's no joke. But I really don't care, and never cared, how much HP a sports car has, as long as the power to weight is satisfactory, the car performs well, sounds good, feels good, looks good, handles well--you know, does all the things that a Miata is so much better at than most so-called 'sports' cars. Having a distinct personality is a plus but not a requirement for me. One can always "personalize" a car with custom work.
For Miata, I'd get rid of the "can 'o gnats" exhaust note. Some more induction noise would be fun, too. If I had the spare change, I'd go to this guy in our neck of the woods who makes custom dashboards. That would be a big plus for me, as I really really don't like Japanese car interiors except the S2000 is growing on me.
So things like that. I think the redesign was an attempt to address some of the cars more mundane aspects. Bit more power, bolder design, a bit more noise--this is all to the good.
My favorite thing to do in this car is when an SUV is tailgating me at the beginning of a highway on- or off-ramp, and I steadily pull away on the long, winding turn. Almost always he's not even in my rear view mirrors when I merge.
Miata has just about the strongest aftermarket out there. There are several vendors that speciliaze in this particular car. You can get all sorts of upgrades, performance and cosmetic, and the prices are actually far less than it would be for most other cars. There are half a million on the road so there are economies of scale to be had.
-juice
I wonder if those older "shell seats" would work in a Miata? They are very simple sturdy and thin buckets, with a kind of curved back but no real bolsters in the seat. It would sure help leg room.
The fact is I drive a car for me and don't really like to stand out in the crowd, and I thought the Miatas design was perfect for that. Man, was I wrong - the amounts of compliments and stares I get is well above and beyond what I expected.
-juice
I wonder how many miles are on that '93?
Those engines are almopst impossible to kill.
Somehow, I suspect it may be a bit of carbon causing that low compression and not a burned valve. I would try a "carbon blast" treatment.
Run some carbon treatment through the intake.
I once watched an old timer de-carbon a Chevy with a bottle of water down the carb. I thought the engine would blow but he seemed to know what he was doing...you should have seen what came out of the tailpipe!
When he was done, it idled like a purring kitten!
It's a tough job but someone's gotta do it!
-juice
I don't think carbon could account for a significant drop in compression. If I do get the car I'll do a cylinder leakdown test before I buy it, because I'm not going to put a new engine in. I will do a head though.
Unfortunately, the car is black, but on the other hand most of them aren't, and since there are a lot of Miatas around, having an odd color might be okay.