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  • rspadingrspading Member Posts: 8
    Have you TD owners checked out the TDR Website? It is all new and redesigned with an active discussion forum and lot's of new pages. There are both member areas and nonmember areas, but everyone gets to read the forum. It is a great site and growing rapidly. The TDR has over 15000 members so the expertise in the discussions is second to none when it comes to knowledgeable people helping other diesel owners. The site is at http://www.turbodieselregister.com/
  • firescoobyfirescooby Member Posts: 7
    I am planning on buying a new Dodge Dakota Quad Cab when they come out. I am planning on the 4x4 sport with the 4.7 V8. All the bells and whistles. Can anyone tell me of any probs with the dakota line?
  • andy_jordanandy_jordan Member Posts: 764
    There are a lot of topics here that cover this issue. Read them and become very confused. Some will tell you nothing is wrong with them, some will tell you nothing is right with them.

    Dodge has historically had problems with automatic transmissions, the 4.7 is bolted on to a new (in Dakota) transmission that was used in the Grand Cherokee last year. Too early to talk about long term reliability, but I have heard that there are still some difficulties. That isn't to say don't go auto, the vast majority are fine and you will find as many posts telling you that people have had no problems as anything else.

    The engine is fantastic - but again only been around for a couple of years so who knows what its like long term.

    If you are going to use the 4x4 I would suggest the handling package - upgraded wheels / tires and anti sway bar.

    Although the quad cab is new this year you shouldn't have to worry about the new model problems because the only significant difference is the body.
  • mck3mck3 Member Posts: 6
    Boy, that Andy gets around. Hey Andy, hows your mpg? Would the tire and handling option help or hinder. Would this option lift the Dakota, as the wheels are much larger? Actually had the tape measure out at a dealer but the rough ground made it dificult to tell.
  • andy_jordanandy_jordan Member Posts: 764
    I haven't really studied MPG since knew but I would guess 13-17 depending on all the usual factors.

    I have the 3.92 rear end so that will reduce the MPG figures over the 3.55, but the larger tires probably balance it back out. I haven't done the math to work out what the equivalent ratio is compared to the stock tires and rear end. Any difference in mileage is going to be minimal.

    The tires certainly increase ground clearance. I don't know what the exact difference is but you could probably trawl through the Dodge specs to find it - my guess would be about 3/4 of an inch.
  • trex99trex99 Member Posts: 61
    Here are some interesting things I thought I'd share...you can find any of this info at.... www.car-truck.com go to the DC column......


    10/28/99
    Buzz writes... "I just recieved confirmation that the 5.7-liter Hemi V-8 is a go......

    10/29/99
    Buzz writes... "The buzz is that the ETH diesel that Dodge will introduce in January will feature a common rail injection system. As I reported back in may, the ETH diesel engine will put out 245hp and 505 ft lbs. of torque! BUT, that output level will only be available with the NV5600 6 speed, the NV4500HD 5 speed equipped diesels will retain the current 235hp/460 lb.ft. output"

    Check in with Buzz often as he always has the lates "scoop" on DC info....


    ......................T REX....................
  • rpowelrpowel Member Posts: 2
    Does anyone (TReX) know about the allison auto in cummins Rams for 2001 is a reality?
  • kjtgkjtg Member Posts: 49
    does anyone know if there will be a rebate, on the 2000 dacaota..
  • cosmo8cosmo8 Member Posts: 1
    Do you know if the 2000 quad cab with the cummins diesel is capable of hanging a snowplow on? We were told by our plow dealer that they will not install a plow on it. Please inform us of any info you may have
  • trex99trex99 Member Posts: 61
    The Allison trans I believe is not an option but, who knows with DC??? I think if it DOESN'T happen its because of Allison not DC......
    Rebates on 2000 Dakota's are not happening yet, and with the new Quad cab Dakota coming out I wouldnt look for them anytime soon........

    To:Cosmo8, The snowplow prep group is an option on all Ram trucks, it includes heavier Height adjustment springs,auto trans overheat warning lamp,& heavy duty transfer case, if your truck does not have this package I would not recommend a snow plow, also this may be the reason they would not install it. If your not sure call your local dealer and give them you VIN #, they can check for you........T REX............
  • jbclaytonjbclayton Member Posts: 1
    The regional package TOLAN for Texas ha a $1500.00 discount with the V6. Does the dealer pay any money towards this and if how much. I have been quoted a proice of $150.00 over invoice, is this package discount deducted from dealer invoice. Thank you for your response. Also, do you feel that th V6 has sufficient power for light loads.
  • katsohiskatsohis Member Posts: 83
    boy is that thing a fricken joke!i think they should start using the 4.7 for this truck now.
  • mstackpoolmstackpool Member Posts: 1
    OK... I have a 98 dakota extend cab and I NEED to put a child seat in it. Any thoughts?? She has just grown out of the infant seat and is 8 mo old. (I KNOW she is a chunk...) BUT, any help would be great.
  • olson3dolson3d Member Posts: 1
    Can anyone tell me when Dodge will start shipping 1500's with the off road package (awl) option? I sure would like to know.
  • 76rich76rich Member Posts: 4
    I have seen several trucks being shipped to dealers bearing offroad badges. The wheels are better looking than any of the others offered.
  • trambitistrambitis Member Posts: 21
    Been looking for a 2000 3/4 ton diesel to pull a 10,000# gross fifth wheel. This combo will see frequent use over all types of terrain. I was pretty well set to go with a Ford Powerstroke and automatic but drove a Ram Cummins w/ 6 speed manual today and was thoroughly impressed. Would have already laid some money on the Dodge salesman but still have some reservations:
    1. I've been considering primarily a 4.10 axle with limited slip differential. The postings in Topic #579 seemed to recommend both features highly. Should I stick with either or both options or should I give the Dodge man his money
    now and be on my way with a lesser but, hopefully, still adequate axle configuration?
    2. The Dodge man suggested that I might want to jump on this deal quickly if I want a 6 speed because this transmission, already a rarity, is no longer able to be ordered because there are already over 3,000 of them on backorder and the factory can only produce around 300 a month. Is
    this fact or fantasy. Thanx.
  • wiz1wiz1 Member Posts: 18
    I would go with the 410 & 6 speed. You won't have to worry about any towing limitations. Your dealer is correct in stating that you can't order any 6 speeds at this time, my dealer tried. But I don't think it's because of the backlog, but the fact that after Jan 1, the models will be 2001 vehicles, with the upgraded ETH option. I believe they have all the orders they can handle until then.
    You gan get the limited slip with either of the axle ratios. I can't speak about the tach.
  • trex99trex99 Member Posts: 61
    Your dealer is correct, well kinda anyways...the 6 speed is still available BUT, if you order one get your camping gear out cuz it'll be awhile, I currently have 3 of them that are finally built and inbound right now, if he actually has one on the ground that isnt spoken for GRAB IT!!!! they are very hard to get ahold of now and gear ratio's can be changed after the fact, as for the future of the 6 speed??? who knows one day its over the next its back on, we do have one coming that is not spoken for yet, but, these trucks are not going to be the 200 over invoice deals that you can get 5 speeds for...supply and demand ya know?
    Also the ETH diesle that is coming out after the new year will ONLY be available with the 6 speed trans, that would lead me to believe that they may do something about the availablility of that transmission, like, make more??? I also hear a rumor about a new automatic trans that will be available that has the same hp and torque of the manuals....that would be nice huh????
    ............................T REX................
  • epoeepoe Member Posts: 56
    I tested the Tundra LTD and the Chevy 1500 LT, should i test drive a Ram 1500???? (or F150 Lariat as far as that goes?)
    Tundra: +++ quiet
    --- small back seat
    no conveniences above + beyond basic
    door pull in center of
    armrest annoying.
    Silverado +++ FT 4x4
    Big back seat
    Good convenience (2 position
    seat/mirror memory, heated outside
    mirrors, auto dim rear view mirrors)
    --- Very Cheap plastic compartments :P
  • nuyawkrnuyawkr Member Posts: 13
    I'm torn between a Dodge Ram 1500 and the Ford 150..I've read so much about transmission and steering problems in the Dodge. Is there any testimony out there by current Dodge owners. Consumer Reports recommends the Ford..but claims it has been surpassed by the new Toyota as well as the Chevy..but they won't recommend a first year General Motors product. Any thoughts on the Dodge?
  • trucklovertrucklover Member Posts: 51
    I have 99 dodge ram 1500, quad sport,15k miles and love it. LOVE IT! the chevy and the ford are nice. The Dodge has a larger interior than the ford(BACK SEAT)and the chevy doesn't have a 4th door (99s). The Chevy has had a lot of first year issues, as well. The Tundra is just to darn small for most. especially the rear seat. The Dodge is much more comfortible and spacious. I can fit five 200lb+ men and one 100-176lb man comfortibly in my Ram. That is more that most sport utilities.

    The Chevy has more power, and better breaking but the stance is too low and looks are too plain.

    Go with the Dodge. Great truck!
  • trucklovertrucklover Member Posts: 51
    I am ready to upgrade my tries and wnat to try and put 35 12.50 15 on my 99 quad 4x4 1500. is this possible without a lift. When I messured with a tape it appears to be enough clearance.

    Can anyone help. Also, I am dropping from a 16' wheel to a 15' wheel any issues there.

    lastly, I am looking at the BF goodrich allterrain TA ko tire, but would love suggestions for another good all around wet, dry, mudd, and snow tire size 33 or 35.
  • markcordmarkcord Member Posts: 113
    If you're looking at 33x12.5x15's I think you should seriously consider Kelly's. I've had BFG AT's and MT's and Kelly DTR's. Kellys were FAR superior particularly in the rain. They are also much less $$(about $50 less per tire). As far as going to 15" wheels I don't think you'll have any trouble with a 1500 but the brakes on the 2500's are too big.
  • trucklovertrucklover Member Posts: 51
    when you say kelly' do you mean kelly springfields? I think, wildspirits or something like that? I owned a pair of 31x10.50x15 wild spirit MPTs or something like that on my 97 tacoma 4x4. they had two huge water channels down the middle and were the best wet weather tires I have ever owed. Is this the same brand different tire?

    Any other opinions?
  • edmack1edmack1 Member Posts: 4
    i bought a 1994 reg. cab w/360-all the goodies!
    this truck was great to look at,and the body was well put together. it would honestly give 21mpg
    driving to boston and back each year. but from day one the transmission always acted erraticly.
    every time i had in for service, i would have written up on the service order,but the dealer could never find anything! but 30K later it spilled its guts on me. the dealer had the truck 12 days supposedly trying to fix it. they finally had to have one ordered--3/4 more days.the night i picked it up--they had neglected to hook up the indicator that shows what gear your in !!!
    this truck also had tire and wheel problems that drove me nuts. two sets of those oem goodyears and
    finally a really good set of michelins. a few
    months later i traded it in for a 1996 club cab.
    this dodge was an even bigger disappointment
    than the 1994. it all the same problems and then
    some. i only kept it 18 months and was glad to be rid of it.
    the real problems exist at the dealer level!!
    they just don't seem to care---"just deliver it and
    maybe the buyer will never notice anything"--and as a
    result, never come back!! PS the GMC P/U i bought next was a terrible truck, i'll tell that sad tale
    on the proper thread. i saw the new 4dr dakota---
    all i can say---isWOW!!!!!
  • markcordmarkcord Member Posts: 113
    Yep, Kelly-Springfield is what I mean. Don't know about "wildspirits" but The DTR's do have the large groove down the middle that you describe. You can check http://www.kellyspringfield.com
    for more info.
  • markcordmarkcord Member Posts: 113
  • trucklovertrucklover Member Posts: 51
    I will post what I actually do in a couple of weeks.
  • trucklovertrucklover Member Posts: 51
    according to the web cite. Just fyi.
  • markcordmarkcord Member Posts: 113
    but I don't hold it against them. I've read plenty of complaints about the Wranglers (which I've never owned) but I can only speak of good experience with the Kellys.
  • skinmanskinman Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2wd Ram 1500 with 55k and have never had a problem with the steering. I the TSB done to it in 96. No problems with the auto trans either. Had the fluid replaced x2 for routine maintenance.
    The remainder of the truck has held up well thus far also. Good luck with your choice.
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    The quick-and-dirty answer is, you will lose substantial power at high altitude with the V10 compared to the turbodiesel. However, the TD will also lose some mpg for the simple fact that the turbo will be operating more often to compensate for the lack of air pressure

    kcram
    Community Leader/Smart Shopper Conference
  • trex99trex99 Member Posts: 61
    For anybody that lives in Northern California or Oregon, I have a 2500 Quad Cab 4X4 in Lt. Driftwood, with the 6 speed manual transmission available that hasnt been spoken for yet!!! If you've been lookin you'll know these are rare trucks, and hard to get.....E-mail me if you or someone you know is interested in this truck....
    ...................T REX.......................
  • outlawigoutlawig Member Posts: 3
    HELP,
    Decisions, Decisions, Decisions. Should I buy a 99 Ram 1500 SLT Quad Cab 4x4 at invoice,or the same thing in a 2000 model for about $2500 more. Does anybody know what the differences are besides the cosmetic changes? Thanks.
  • livelive Member Posts: 2
    Tried to buy 2500 quad/4x4 with Cummins.Was finally told that warranty would be voided w/plowgroup.What do you think of that?
  • wiz1wiz1 Member Posts: 18
    Heard too many rumors about the plow prep package to mention here. I do know that on the regular cab,the plow prep package is NOT a problem with the Cummins. Some other posts indicated you could not even order the plow prep on the QC.
    Dodge really doesn't have their act together because I ordered a 2500 Cummins 6-sp, regular cab, without the plow prep, but with the HD transfer case. When the vehicle arrived, there was a disclaimer on the build sheet, stating the truck should not be used for plowing. Checking the tags on the front springs, the codes are the same for the Cummins, whether you ordered the plow prep, or not.Go figure???? The only difference is what/how you order. Doesn't make sense.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    I can say for certain that the DC's extended warantee SPECIFICALLY says that "plowing snow voids the warantee"
    I did not see this wording in 3year MFG warantee but I did not look for it either. I WAS looking for the possibility to change the muffler to improve the SOUND a bit. but alas... that voids ALL warantees!!
  • trex99trex99 Member Posts: 61
    I think you should go back and investigate further concerning the exhaust system, We have a salesman that drives a Ram 2500 and 2 that both drive Durangos and all 3 have installed cat-back exhaust systems on theirs and did NOT void theyre warranties at all, thay have also all installed K&N type air filters and one has installed a Mopar High performance ECM to his 2500 Quad cab with the 5.9 and a 5 speed...needless to say not only does it sound better it goes much better too!!!!
    P.S. We finally got 4 or 5 Quad cab Dakota's in last week and I am impressed!!! They are roomier than I expected, I am considering one for myself actually!!...................T REX
  • bmckenziebmckenzie Member Posts: 118
    Hey Trex when are you going to answer my question,
    post 348 on 28 November??????..........Bill
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    I asked about exhaust changes to my 4.7L Dak before I ordered it. The salesman asked the 'service guy' about it and the response was that it would "void the warrantee".
    Something about the THREE catalytic converters and 2 exhaust 'sniffers' on this beast. Even the warrantee states that modifications to the exhaust will void the EMISSIONS WARRANTEE.
    Are you saying that I may have been misled?
  • trex99trex99 Member Posts: 61
    Bill, Sorry I musta missed that one, Ill get back to you tomorrow on that one...Ill have to ask because I dont have my truck rating book for 2000 yet and it only shows 100 lbs difference between the 98 & 99......I'll find out for you though.............T REX
  • trex99trex99 Member Posts: 61
    OK upon investigating with our resident "expert" he said to ask you exactly what kind of changes you are wanting to do, he said any mods made after the cats should be fine.....you must be planning something at the engine or before the cats.....because he did say that yes, if you mess with the cats....you are done......Let me know specifically what you are planning and I'll find out for you.........T REX
  • bmckenziebmckenzie Member Posts: 118
    Thanks T rex,
    My brochure for 1999 shows the 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 3.54's, 5spd, Cummins rated at 13,700 towing capacity. The Y2K 2500 QC SB 4x4 3.54's
    5 spd, Cummins that I just bought (traded my 1500 QC 4x4) is rated at less than 10,000 towing capacity...............Bill
  • trex99trex99 Member Posts: 61
    Sorry Bill, that last one was for bpeebles not you, got my names mixed up there....T REX
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    Thanks for the explanation/clarification about allowable exhaust mods for my 4.7L V8 Dakota. From what you are saying, I should be able to replace the muffler with a better sounding one without voiding the emissions warrantee.

    I will have to speak to the service manager again and see what the confusion is about.
  • ron35ron35 Member Posts: 134
    I have a 2000 Dakota CC on order and I am looking at the accessories available. One that caught my eye was the bed extender, the picture in the Dodge Accessory catalog showed it installed in a truck without a bedliner. I am wondering if the extender can be used with a bedliner in place. Also, the catlog showed a TBD price, do you know what that price will be?

    Ron35
  • bmckenziebmckenzie Member Posts: 118
    T rex,
    Did you get any feedback yet on the difference between the 98 and the Y2K Rams maximum towable loads?.............Bill
  • rlang1rlang1 Member Posts: 1
    I'm looking to buy a new 2000 Dakota Quad and tow it behind my RV on all 4 wheels. I'll need an auto trans and 4WD I would like manual hubs but I see they all come with auto locking hubs. Will I have problems towing it or warranty problems
  • bmckenziebmckenzie Member Posts: 118
    Rlang 1,
    If i am not mistaken there is an article in Motrohome magazine that talks about Dingy's, and the Dakota is mentioned for flat towing, certain distance and max speed were part of the article, saw it at Barnes and Noble.......Bill
  • bookittybookitty Member Posts: 1,303
    Called Dodge today and discovered that if one
    orders the trailer package, heavy duty service
    package, limited slip differential, 5 speed with
    4.7 V8, then the order system defaults to the 3.92
    and will not allow the order to go through with the
    3.55. For whatever reason, I cannot fathom.
    Whether it is a glitch in the program or part of a
    package, no one at Dodge could say. I will play
    with the options at the dealership, and see what
    will fly. I rechecked the brochure, and there is
    nothing that indicates that the selection is not
    allowed. If I cannot get a satisfactory answer, I
    will put off ordering the vehicle. If anyone out
    there has any ideas, answers and/or input, I would be happy
    to listen.
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