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Acura Integra GSR Customizing and Modifying

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  • cjhannancjhannan Member Posts: 201
    Due to mucho paranoia about hydrolock, I bought one a few months after I installed this intake. I figured even if it only helps a small amount, it would be worth it. Provides a bit more peace of mind, but by no means do I consider it to be a fail-safe mechanism -- I am still extremely careful when it's raining, making sure to avoid all puddles of any size. To install it, you have to take the intake off the car and cut it in half (I used a hack saw w/ a fresh blade, and put a layer of masking tape around the intake where I cut it so that the blade wouldn't slip when beginning the cut). That's the wierd part -- who in their right mind cuts a perfectly good piece of aluminum in half? =:o) Also, be sure to check the clearance between the intake and the A/C lines (that are below the intake around where the front strut tower bar is) so that they aren't rubbing. I've heard of people (who didn't know to check) rubbing holes in these lines. I had to get some 1" heater hose, cut about a 2" piece, and cut that piece down the middle (like you're gutting a fish), and then wrapped that around the A/C lines, secured it w/ a couple of zip ties, where my intake was rubbing. Worked like a charm! :D
  • cjhannancjhannan Member Posts: 201
    I know it's been hypothesized that the bypass valve reduces the effectiveness of the AEM CAI, but I've not seen any data to support this. If you know of some, would you please point me in that direction? I'd be curious to review it. Thanks.
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    but when I read that I had to cut the intake in half, I immediately decided against it.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    Based upon the reports of many people who have installed the bypass valve and then discovered dirt in the short section of intake connected to the throttle body, there was speculation that unfiltered air was being drawn into the intake from the BPV.

    Given the fact that this air would leak thru the BPV from the engine compartment, one could conclude that this air would be hot, thus reducing the CAI effect.

    If the BPV gives you peace of mind, then it's good that you have it. Personally, I'm more converned about sucking grit into my engine than worrying about hydrolocking it. The trick is to not drive thru standing water that is higher than the centerline of your front wheels.
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    If you want to laugh, read the post "GTS, GSR or SI". Himiler and I have been fighting with a guy that is calling us liars (well me mostly) and we 're full of BS.
    Read the last 8-10 posts. This guy also claims that he's tuned B18C5s and has built Honda racecars, but his profile says he's building an old RX7. He 's clearly a Honda hater or anti-Honda person.
    Anyway, I let him have it the last 2-3 posts after he called me a liar and that I 'm full of it. I think they might remove some posts or lock it up tonight as it's getting heated. This guy wouldn't believe that I beat all the Type-Rs in a NASA event a few weeks ago so I gave him the link. Then he doesn't believe my CAI hp gains and asked me for the dyno. Then he says TRD Celicas and MR2s can outhandle anything.. even Z06s (the Z06s I 've seen with just Konis, handle awesomely and almost like gokarts). I was getting annoyed and told him off. I thought you guys might want to read some of those posts.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,485
    I've been following it and getting a good laugh out of it myself. You gave it to him...just the facts!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    I got this poem about 3yrs ago from someone but I edited it with a lot of Honda stuff. About 40% of the words are mine and the rest are from an unknown author who did a pretty good job. I edited it about 2.5yrs ago and had forgotten all about it.

    A Visit from Racer Nicholas

    'Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the valley,
    Not a sports car was stirring, not even a Ferrari.
    The stockings were hung on the garage door with care,
    In hopes that Hot Nick soon would be there.

    The kiddies were nestled all snug in their beds,
    While Integras and Bimmers raced in their heads;
    Mom in her goggles and I in my helmet,
    laid there in bed cuddled together..

    When out on the road there arose such a clatter,
    I sprang from my bed to see what was the matter.
    Expecting to see an NSX roar by,
    We raced to the window, my dear wife and I.

    The moon on the chrome of her baby 3000,
    Gave the brightness of midday to objects around it.
    When what should my wondering eyes betray,
    But eight hatchback Civics, pulling a sleigh.

    With a small hero driver so steady and quick,
    I knew in a moment it must be Hot Nick!
    More rapid than an S2000 his little fleet came,
    And he poured on the Nitrus as he called them by name.

    Now K&N, now TODA, Apexi and Spoon,
    On VTEC, on DOHC, Koni and June.
    To the top of the turn, keep away from the wall,
    Now dash away, dig out, and downshift all!"

    Like autocrossers fighting a slalom,
    They broadslid the driveway and gave it some throttle;
    Up to the garage where they ABS'd to a stop,
    The sleigh full of goodies with Santa on top.

    The sleigh was aluminum - Mugen design;
    In Honda Racing Green, it really looked fine.
    The Honda badge up front stood out clear and bold,
    The collection of race stickers, a sight to behold.

    He was dressed up all in Italian Race Red,
    From the tip of his toes to top of his head;
    A bundle of speed parts he had on his back,
    And he chuckled with glee as he opened his pack.

    His eyes, how they sparkled, like a Volk Racing wheel,
    His beard was the silver of machine-tooled steel;
    With a little round face and a chubby waist line
    That shook when he laughed like that Nissan of mine.

    He started his task without saying a word,
    The idling exhausts were all that was heard.
    Wire wheels for Junior, to fit his toy Capri,
    polyurethane bushings for my Acura and me.

    Some paint for the Integra, marked "championship white",
    and GC coilovers to adjust the height.
    The last thing he left was the best that could be,
    A JR Supercharger for my Honda and me.

    He jumped to the sleigh and gave his commands,
    Then away they all flew like we do for Topeka or Le Mans,
    And I heard him exclaim as he quickened the pace,
    Merry Christmas to all and to all a good race!
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • cjhannancjhannan Member Posts: 201
    Thanks for the reply. What you say makes sense. Next time I have my intake off the car I'll have to check the part between the bypass valve and the TB to see for myself. I heard a few folks claim their car "feels" a tad slower (via the butt dyno) after they've install the CAI, but we all know how reliable the butt dyno is (:D) and that's not been my experience. Sucking dirt into the motor is definitely not good, so I'll check it out soon.
  • cjhannancjhannan Member Posts: 201
    Boy, you sure do have a pissing match going on in that other forum. I hope you don't spend too much more time arguing with that dim wit. It just doesn't seem to be worth it...

    btw, nice job on the poem. :thumbup:
  • deryckfmderyckfm Member Posts: 29
    will bypass that bypass valve then since the consensus is it's not worth it. had it not been for you guys, i probabaly would've had a false sense of security. thanks for sharing your experiences.

    sway bars were my next project too, but may have to sneak in new tires first since i'm still riding on stocks. what could would a beefier sway bar be if my tires are crap. please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong (sway bar first before tires).

    as for that guy in that other forum, we all know that no matter what he says, no one will end up trading our cars in for whatever he thinks is better anyway.
  • garadosgarados Member Posts: 321
    I think that you should go for the sway bars. But then again, what good is upgraded suspension if you aren't in contact with the ground? hmmm. Maybe you should go with the tires.
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    I upgraded the rear sway bar while I was still on the stock (crappy) Michelins. It felt like I had new tires on. I couldn't believe it. I got less squealing and better grip from those aweful Michelins because the less body roll meant more tire patch on the ground.
    A day or 2 after I upgraded the rear sway bar, I was keeping up with a Honda motorcycle on the freeway doing 120-130mph (I know stupid - haven't done that in a couple of years) with the stock Michelins. The car was just flatter on the highway turns and when changing lanes while going fast, so it gave me much more confidence and the stockers actually performed well at those speeds. Before the sway bar, I was afraid to go over 100mph unless it was in a straight line.
    Getting some good 205-50 summer tires will also give you the same results or better. Doing both will really impress you. Don't wait. You 're missing out on some really fun driving.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • garadosgarados Member Posts: 321
    from my first autox ^_^ OMG are the words that come to mind. It was so much fun!! Out of 5 runs, I got 3 clean runs, but of those three, I spun out once. Oh well.

    Anyway, the course layout was a 180 degree skid pad, then to a 6-cone slalom, then a 180 degree sweeping right turn going into a set of offset gates, a tight pivot, then back through the gates. From there, there are three more offset gates, then a tight left into a three-cone slalom, and then a set of two offset gates, a four cone slalom, and then three offset gates, then the finish of the course, but then there was a box that you had to stop in, or else you gained time.

    So, I went with instructors for my first 4 runs. My first run was pretty good, and after the first slalom, I turned into the sweeper and I lifted the throttle and started to fishtail like a mofo. Then, after the pivot and slalom, I demolished two cones going into the three cone slalom. 86 seconds

    The next run was better because I stayed on the throttle and didn't fishtail going into the sweeper, but I did hit the two cones again. 72 seconds

    The third one was pretty cool. Coming out of the first slalom, I got on the throttle again, but started to skid ALOT, so I got off, and then spun out ^_^ It was fun, but I freaked out because I couldn't get the car started again, but eventually it did. 98 seconds

    My fourth run was the best. I went through the course flawlessly, but I wasn't going that fast. Oh well. 75 seconds

    My fifth run felt like the fastest, but it wasn't. I went through with tires screetching and I burned the inside front tire through every turn.

    All in all, I had a blast. It was so much fun. I'm probably going to go to the next race this weekend. I can't wait ^_^ Oh yeah, out of the 9 novices, I placed 6th. I beat a wrx, an rx7, and an Altima.
  • nerdnerd Member Posts: 203
    Please give me the details (like manufacturer and size) on the rear sway bar you installed on your car. I am interested in upgrading the handling of a '97 GS coupe- just for street driving, no competition. I have already replaceD the original XGT with Dunlop SP 5000, 205/50-15.

    I guess driving my wife's new BMW has made the Integra's handling more noticeable. (Yeah, the Integra is hers, too).
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    I have since changed to a bigger rear sway bar. My first one was a 19mm one made by Neuspeed. It was very popular 3-4yrs ago.
    The one I have now seems to be the most prevelant and that most are using. It's made by Comptech and it's 22mm. It also comes with a rear lower tie bar that serves as subframe reinforcement so the bigger bar doesn't rip the subframe. Go to www.comptechusa.com for prices. You can get their parts for about 10-15% cheaper from other vendors which are actually a little hard to find. The Neuspeed bar is also as expensive as Comptech because they 've improved it and have gone with some expensive metal, etc. but with Comptech you get more for your money and really good quality stuff too.
    The cheapest way is to buy a Type-R sway bar and special kit (reinforcment kit for your subframe) from BSQ. Casey would have his e-mail and details how to buy his kit which I think runs for $30-35. So all in all the Type-R solution is about 1/2 the price of the Comptech one, but you don't have the billet aluminum lower tie bar which connects the rear lower control arms together and gives you greater stiffness (that comes with the Comptech sway bar).
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    Garados, congrats on your first auto-x event! Seems you 're hooked just like I was after my first run. From what you described, I have 1 advice for you that will help you shave off seconds off your time: brake EARLY, and then get on the gas slowly at the beginning of the turn or sweeper, until you can find the limits of your tires and car.
    I got killed Sunday in DSP by the same usual GSR that has about $4K more stuff in it than my car. Over a whole second too, which would 've bothered me a little a couple of months ago but not anymore. I just have fun and have accepted the fact that I will not spend $3-4K on my GSR just to get a $2 mug or some other cheap trophy or for the satisfaction of beating someone. I 'm done modding the car and I 'm trying to buy my brother's Type-R right now to race in DS.
    That guy with the well modded GSR just got his Konis revalved to match his 525lb GCs and he said that made a huge difference. He noticed the improvement right away and said he couldn't be happier with the handling. He came very close to Pat Salerno's times (2 time National Champ, won ES this year)
    If I can't get my brother's Type-R, then the first (and hopefully the last) thing I 'll do is get my Konis revalved before the next season.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • garadosgarados Member Posts: 321
    I'll try the early braking/light acceleration. I'm going to another autox this weekend. hehe, I can't wait ^_^

    Oh yeah, the all-season 16" tires from the WRX. How are they? I can get some for free, so that's why I'm asking.

    Final question. For your autocrosses, how much is it and how many runs do you usually get? The one I just went to was $35 for 4 runs, but we got 5 runs and, afterwards, 1 free run. Oh, during the free runs, a Z06 bit the dust and ran into a fence post and got stuck =| That was the worst thing to happen during the day.
  • nerdnerd Member Posts: 203
    Thanks for the advice on a rear sway bar. I like the feature of the tie bar to stiffen the rear frame. Your comments suggest that the difference is noticeable - correct?
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    The OE tires from the WRX are junk. They're the same Bridgestone RE-92 that came on my Prelude, which I promptly swapped for S-03's.

    If they're free, what the heck -- take 'em. Maybe you can sell them to someone or trade them for some better rubber.
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    that new sporty cars, (and not cheap cars either), still come with RE92 tires. My 1990 Geo Storm came with 185-60-14 RE92s!! It was an OK tire for 1990 and my little Storm handled pretty well with it.
    But enough is enough. When is Bridgestone going to decomission this tire that came out in the '80's? I 'm sure it costs very little to make it which is why all the car manufacturers are buying them and saving millions.. They are the only ones buying this tire. The Dunlop D60 A2 (HR rated) killed the RE92 private sales in the early-mid '90s when tirerack and other mags kept voting the D60A2 the best all season HR tire for a few years in a row.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • garadosgarados Member Posts: 321
    hehe, I'm ditching the WRX tires for something with a little bit more grip. I just called the local discount tire co and they can get the azenis mounted, balanced, and on the car with road warranty for $490. Is this a good price? Oh yeah, this is for 215/45/16. Thanks.
  • bemathewbemathew Member Posts: 33
    whether to go with a Valentine-1??( Recently I was caught twice..1 Ticket and 1 warning. Luckily I could go to a defenesive driving school so that points are not entered into the system. Second time the officer was kind enogh to give just a warning). So no damage done..no DMV or insurance points.
    Probably I should start doing some autocross stuff like you guys do to take "IT" out of the system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Btw RE730's are superb..the only mod i have done so far to my 99 GSR sedan.
  • garadosgarados Member Posts: 321
    You don't need a radar detector. Just take it easy and don't speed or do anything stupid. When you drive, relax and don't do anything stupid. If you do go autox, make sure you get out of racing mode before you get back onto public roads, just so you don't do anything stupid. Did I mention not to do anything stupid?

    A question of mine now. Should I go to the next local autox or save my money and go to a car clinic in 2 months? The autocross is $50 for maybe 10 minutes of track time, while the car clinic is $150 for a few hours of track time with an instructor. Thanks.
  • bemathewbemathew Member Posts: 33
    but I think I am not that "stupid" to earn two tickets in a week. May be a bit unlucky to get caugt twice in the same week after remaining ticket less for the last 6 years.

    First time by unmarked trooper car. Second time by a cop who didn't have anything better to do ...(visiting a new place and driving back to my hotel...going downhill in a curvy road allegdly doing 45 in a 35 zone!!!!) He let me go when I said I was using cruise control....Looks like its a favourte place for the local cops to catch tourists. I think both these could have been avoided if I had a good detector.
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    bemathew -- get a V1 AND don't drive crazy, and you'll be fine. I've driven ~470,000 miles in the last 6.5 years and haven't received a single ticket. I do drive fast with my V1, but not crazy. Having the V1 is not a free pass to speed, but it sure comes in handy. I can't count how many times mine has saved my butt!

    Keep in mind that traffic cops are creatures of habit. If they find a good spot to nab speeders, they tend to stay with it, making their efforts somewhat predictable to someone who knows where to look for 'em. I've learned that if you see a cop tucked away off the shoulder, you should expect to see him/her there everytime you drive that stretch of road, and drive accordingly.

    garados -- that sounds like a fair price for your tires. If you aren't already getting it, ask if they'll throw in lifetime balancing for $10 extra per tire.
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    $490 sounds a little high but I don't know what 16" go for. The 205-50-15s are pretty cheap and around $300 for all 4. Add ~$60 for mounting and balancing and you 're still under $400. Did you check the usual online tire stores?
    So you 're going to stick with the 16" wheels for auto-x? Don't you have a set of 15"?
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • garadosgarados Member Posts: 321
    No, I don't have a set of 15" wheels. If I did, I would get a set of azenis for them. So yeah, I'm going to use the 16's for autox. From disounttiredirect, the 215/45/16 azenis are $105 per tire, so that's 420 bucks and then 80 bucks to get them mounted and balanced at the local pepboys. If I get them from the local store, they're $115 + tax for the tires, lifetime balancing, mounting, and the warranty.
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    I didn't know there was such a big difference between 15 & 16". Now you know why keep saying go with 15" :=)
    Looks like my brother is going to hold off on selling his Type-R till next year. I think I 'll look for some used 13x8" or 14x8" and get some 225 or 235 Kumhos like my most of my competition has..
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • deryckfmderyckfm Member Posts: 29
    Was wondering if you guys would have the same suggestion for my dad as to what to do for a second car.

    He has a 1999 Volvo S70 (non-turbo) that has held up pretty well. He also has a 1999 Ford Escort for a company car which he is being given the chance to buy for $3,500. It is an SE model with 74,000 miles. Edmunds says that the trade-in value is around $3,200. He fortunately was the first person to get a hold of this car upon being added to their company's fleet so he has taken care of it (so he says) from the beginning.

    My suggestion was for him to grab it at that price, then trade it in for either an older Civic or Accord. Though he may finance another $2-3k on top of the trade he'll have, I'm pretty sure that an older Honda will last longer than his Escort. My mom still has his '88 Civic with 125k miles and still keeps on ticking. He does know about Honda's reliability, however does not also want to be in debt too long as he is close to retiring.

    Do you guys think that he'll be ok with his Volvo and Escort or should he grab a more reliable Honda for longer-term peace of mind? Sorry about going off topic with this.....
  • cjhannancjhannan Member Posts: 201
    Maybe I'm confused, but why would your Dad want to buy a second car if his work is providing a company car for him? Are they taking the company car back? If so, and if he's only going to work another 1 to 2 years before retiring, could he not just drive the Volvo? Or does his job require mega driving and, therefore, mega miles? If he truly does need a second car, then I would pass on the Escort and help him find a nice and clean used Civic or Accord. Not sure why you would want to buy the Escort, turn around and sell it, only to buy something else. Sounds a little complicated... Even if he were to be able to make $500-1000 on selling the Escort, I'm not sure it would be worth the effort... JMHO
  • deryckfmderyckfm Member Posts: 29
    yes, his company leased the car and the lease is up so they are giving him first dibs on owning it. the company has been known to give up cars for only a dollar (mostly fords). yes, he does drive a lot and does not want to rack up the volvo miles. that's what i was trying to deliberate on - making around a grand on the escort, but as you said, may not be worth all the effort. thanks much anyway....
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    Lets say he sells the Escord for $4500 (making a $1,000 on it). It 'll be very hard to find an Accord in good shape for $4500 and he might find a '96-97 Civic with 120-140k mi. on it.
    Like you said he 'd have to spend at least another $2-3K to get a Honda with only around 100k.
    A co-worker just traded in his '95 Accord with 120k mi. for a new CRV. He got $4500 from the dealer because it was in pretty good shape and clean. That dealer I 'm sure will ask at least $6K for it, or whoever buys it at the auction and resells it.
    My advice is to buy the Escort and keep it for a couple of years. $3500 is a very good deal and 74,000 mi. is not a lot for an Escort. I 've actually been impressed with some Escorts I 've seen lately at the auto-x events. They 're early & mid-90's Escorts with 150k+ mi. and have been raced for 2-3 seasons and they 're still kicking. One has 180k mi. on it and the guy races it at many different clubs.
    So if I were him I 'd buy it and keep it for a few years. You really can't find a car out there with 74k mi for $3500.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    Most of you remember me selling my '97 Civic HB about 14mos ago. It had 141k mi. on it and a nice big long dent/scratch along the side of most of the car which is about $1K to fix, complements of my sister backing out of my driveway.. Anyway I sold it in a record time of 16hrs after I advertised it in 2 Honda forums, reason being I was only asking $3K for it which I got. The guy that bought is a friend you could say that I 've known for a long time from auto-x.

    Anyway, the guy that bought it from me, put some coilover springs, Koni shocks, a rear sway bar, and a roll cage in it and kept it for 8-9mos. Just FYI, he won his class at NASA several times with my (ex) Civic. He sold it for $4200 to another aquintance of mine. This other guy now put some Civic Si rims on it, GSR brakes in the front, and a race steering wheel (I guess some people don't like the protection of air bags) and kept it for about 4-5 mos. He just sold it a few days ago for exactly $5K and about 150k mi. on it. I saw it 2 weeks ago when he came to a NASA event to watch and was asking me if I knew any prospective buyers. The car still had the same dent & scratch all along the passenger side.
    They say mods don't increase the price of your car but it doesn't seem true in this case. I know I could 've gotten around $4K for it when I sold it but I wanted to sell it fast. Still $5K over a year later is pretty good I think. Both of those people almost got most of their money back they put into mods..
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • deryckfmderyckfm Member Posts: 29
    Thanks only1harry for your input. Personally I would've did things like cj, but my dad is leaning toward doing the same thing as you (only1harry). Pretty sure it had something to do with him having to take a loan out again that is making him settle with the Escort. My mechanic told me that they're pretty reliable anyway. It's Tempos and Taurus' that are not.

    Enough of Ford talk. Back to the GSR. Tried to get my oil changed last July with only 1,000 miles used since the last oil change. Service tech told me that there is no need still even if I approached the 3 month mark and that I should follow the mileage marker (3000 mi.) more. Since I gotta do a 7,500 mile checkup soon (wherein the oil and filter gets changed too), is it ok to wait for my mileage to reach 7,500 (5 mos. may have gone by by then) and get the oil changed? I will still be below the 3000 mile point, but have gone over the 3 month mark. Average about 20 miles a day, 3/4 times a week, mostly on side streets. On weekends I do go on the highways for a good 50 miles and get to exercise the VTEC mode.
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    With the Integra first of all you should never wait till you go over 3k mi. to change the oil. 2nd, you should change it every 4mos no matter what the mileage is. Even if it's 500mi. Oil looses its properties and it's not good for the motor when the oil sits there for a while. I use Mobil 1 synthetic oil and after about 4-5mos it starts turning black even though I 've only done about 2k-2,500 mi.
    Your motor is pretty new and much less abused than mine, so I 'm sure the oil won't turn pretty dark after 4mos, but you should change it after the 4th month is completed, at least now that it's still new. I don't go passed 4mos anymore. Don't listen to anyone but Integra owners when it comes to stuff like this. Most mechanics don't own Integras and don't get to see what the oil looks like at 1k, 2k, 3k, 4k mi, or after 5mos, or what the mileage is like after several mos without an oil change, etc.
    My GSR just turned 31k mi. and it's already burning 1/2 Qt. every 2500 mi. I noticed oil consuption when the car had about 25k mi. on it. That's normal for Integras from what other Integra owners tell me, plus I race a lot where the motor sees much redlining and high RPMs.

    Bottom line, DO NOT wait till 7500 mi. and do NOT wait another 5mos to change the oil. This is the most important thing you can do for your car. $20-25 every 3-4mos is nothing to keep your car running in top shape.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • cjhannancjhannan Member Posts: 201
    don't wait to change the oil. It's such a trivial expense, but it's so vitally important for the good care of your engine. It makes no sense to wait. And your car will love you for it, too. :D
  • deryckfmderyckfm Member Posts: 29
    thank you both for backing me up. from the get go i intended to get my oil changed before 4 months no matter what my mileage is as i am aware of the oil losing its properties. when do you think i should switch to Mobil 1? right now i'm just getting whatever oil the dealership has.

    they also for some reason fill it up over the upper mark (about 1/4 inch over). is this acceptable? i put the dipstick all the way in when checking the level. is this the correct way to check? think i've asked them once to remove some (though they claimed it was fine). then on my last visit (july) the filled it up the same way again.
  • bemathewbemathew Member Posts: 33
    Harry, did you do 30K service? My GSR is going to be 30K and the local Acura dearlerships are charging nearly$450 for this!!!. There is a local shop specializing in Honda/Acuras they are charging $280 which includes Transmission fluid, brake, air filter, oil, change valave gasket,etc etc.. Anything else reccomended for 30K?

    Since I have to change the air filter, is it a good idea to go with a dropin K&N filter?
    (U2820??)
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    If you look at the Acura manual it says your motor takes 4.3 or 4.5 Qts (can't remember, I always put 4.5).
    I noticed the same thing as you when I got my first oil change and told the shop exactly how many Qts to put in according to the manual. I checked the oil level and it was high. After a couple more oil changes I realized that the FULL mark on the dipstick only represents about 3.8-3.9 qts. So when you put the proper amount of oil which is over 4qts it's always going to show over the full mark.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    Yes, I 've done those things individually from like 20k mi. on (because I race) and I didn't go to the dealer. They charge too much. My dealer wants around $400 too!
    I 've changed the brake fluid, Manual Trans. Fluid (MTF) & radiator fluid, etc. Of course I don't have to change my air filter because I have a CAI with a K&B cone filter which I clean my self.
    The only thing I haven't done is the valve cover gasket which I won't do that unless I develop a leak. Most dealers don't do this at 30k mi. but sometimes they 'll charge you for it without having done any work. Make sure you don't get ripped off. Put a piece of tape on the back of the valve cover gasket so it's not visible from the front. Place it so it goes over the valve cover and the head (so it crosses the gasket). Do this when the engine is not too hot or after you get to the dealer, or if the dealer is not too far, do it just before you go there. Always ask for the old parts back. Tell them you want them as spares in case something happens.
    If I were you I 'd call that shop and ask them how much it 'd be if they didn't do the valve cover gasket. It should be at least $50 less (more if they were going to install new O rings).

    So it looks like they 're doing a brake fluid job ($80-100), tranny fluid ($40-45) and oil change ($20-25). These 3 should cost you around $170 in the worst case. You can call the dealer and see how much they charge for the 3 services above and compare the price the other shop is giving you.
    It doesn't really matter what filter you go with. The K&N drop-in will not really give you any power gains though.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • bemathewbemathew Member Posts: 33
    Looks like there is a deal in http://www.coximport.com/hot_sheet.html for aem's. Red AEM for GSR for $172 (with coupon code 21065 + free shipping)...Polished ones are $199 btw is the silver Aem's one more expensive just for the good looks or is it anyway better than the regular ones?


    Harry, for 30K service anyway I will have to change the air filter. Probably I should go for an AEM? I might get some discount also from the mechanic on the 30 K service if I don't want to change the air filter

  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    is a cold air intake with a K&N filter at the end. It's tubing from your throttle body all the way down to right behind your front bumper, 6" from the ground where it could take in water and blow your engine if you drive over deep puddles or flooded roads.
    They also sell the short AEM intake whose K&N filter is inside the engine bay. Those go for around $110-120 I believe. The power gains are a lot less because it takes in warmer air, but you 'll have peace of mind if it rains a lot where you live. I have the AEM Cold Air Intake (CAI) because I only drive the car on the weekends and to the racing events, but many drive their Integras daily with the CAI, including Casey here (cjhannan).

    There 's no difference in performance with the silver, polished, or whatever have you. That's just a finish on the outside and for better looks. When I bought my AEM CAI 2.5yrs ago, we had no color choices. They only came in a silver-gray color. Now that it's dirty it's more gray than silver..
    $172 is a good deal. I paid $189 shipped back then.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • garadosgarados Member Posts: 321
    It has come to my attention that my brake pads are a little on the thin side, so I'm in the market for some pads. I want to get something with a good initial bite, and are good for street and occasional auto-x events. I hear good things about Hawk's HP+ pads and Axxis Ultimate pads, but I don't know which kind to get. I don't want them to eat my rotors too quickly, and I want them to have a decent life. Any opinions/suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks ^_^
  • cjhannancjhannan Member Posts: 201
    I don't know a thing about Axxis pads, so I'll leave them alone. I've run both Hawk HPS and HP+s on my car (at two different times). The HPSs are a big improvement over OE pads, and are very good for autocross/street purposes. And the HP+s are a notable improvement over the HPSs. I've had the HP+s on my car for about a year now, and I love these pads. The are fine when they are cold, have an incredible bite to them when they are warmed up, and are terrific on the autocross course. They're only down side is that they are VERY dusty SOBs -- we're talking less than a week before your front wheels are starting to look real dark. Also, Hawk does not make either of these two pads for the rears, so I opted to go with AEM pads back there. The rear brakes do so little under heavy braking I'm not sure what the best option is there. About $60-65 will put a set of HP+s on your car. HTH
  • garadosgarados Member Posts: 321
    I checked with colletti motorsports and they do have the rear pads for the gsr. It's $80 for the front and $60 for the back. I'm going to be ordering them tomorrow. Do you know when they'll take to get cross country? I'm not worried about brake dust, because my wheels are already black =P Thanks for the opinion on these pads. hehe, I can't wait now ^_^ Since the pads take priority over getting the azenis, I'll have to wait another month to get them =( oh well.
  • cjhannancjhannan Member Posts: 201
    I could'a swore I only paid $65 for the fronts, but I guess my memory is starting to fade with age... :D Also, thanks for clarifying that Hawk does indeed make the rear pad for the GSR. I was told differently. Guess I'll have to go and correct that source of information... If they've got them in stock, Colletti usually ships within a day, and they're in the mid west somewhere (Ohio?), so it'll probably take a good 5-7 days to get to you by UPS ground.
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    Be careful when buying pads from Colletti. They 're good with rotors, but they don't have very good prices and they screwed up my brake pad order.
    Steve Colletti told me that Axxis makes the Metal Masters for my '01 Civic when all the other vendors told me that there is no MM for '01+ Civics. I asked him many times to double & triple check and he assured me they make them. He sends me some generic pads that said Metal Masters on them that were not made by Axxis and when I went to the shop to have them installed, they didn't fit in the calipers! I was PO's because #1 they weren't Axxis and #2 they were the wrong size/fit. I had to send them back and then he wanted to send me another pair that he "thought" would fit! I told him to forget it and send me some HP+ pads which I know are made for the '01+ Civics. I paid $80 too but later found out that I could 've gotten them for around $70-72. Call Cobalt Friction or go to www.cobaltfriction.com. They sell Axxis Ultimates and many different HP pads. Andy has good prices. If he doesn't have the HP+ listed give them a call. They can get them, plus they usually give 10-15% discount to honda-tech members. I got my Axxis Ultimates from Cobalt and they came out to about low to mid $50's with the H-T discount.
    HP+ is a little more aggressive pad than the Ultimates but the Ultimates are better than HPS. You won't regret it with either one. Make sure you get your brake fluid replaced otherwise you won't notice as big a difference.
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
  • garadosgarados Member Posts: 321
    I replaced my fluid recently with some dot 4 fluid. I think that's good enough for the street and some auto-x sessions. I have a question for you now. I ordered them already, and if indeed the pads are wrong, can I just send them back for a refund? If not, they're not getting my business anymore. Thanks for the replies Casey and Harry ^_^
  • cjhannancjhannan Member Posts: 201
    also check out http://www.essexparts.com/ for prices on the Hawk pads. That's where I got mine. They're a big supplier for all kinds of car/racing parts and supplies. They also happen to be about 20 miles north of Atlanta so I can get things quickly... :D
  • only1harryonly1harry Member Posts: 1,140
    When I shipped the wrong ones back I asked him to pick up the shipping and he did (was only $6 UPS) but then he shipped me the HP+ ones and I paid the difference. I 'm pretty sure he would 've given me a full refund if I wanted to, because he knows I 've sent a ton of people to him for rotors, plus I 've purchased 8 rotors from him so far (4 for GSR, 2 for my '97 Civic and 2 for '01 Civic)
    '99 Integra GSR
    '06 Civic LX coupe
    '11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
    '13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
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