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List your lemon trucks here: 1980-2002

amoralesamorales Posts: 196
edited March 2014 in GMC
Owned the following LEMONS:

1980 GMC Heavy Half w/350-4V 3:08 long bed, torque lockout auto tranny, it was painted metallic blue, should have been yellow. Horrendous defects, too many to list

1991 GMC S10 Blazer TAhoe 4x4 4-door 4.3L Defective ABS system, brakes, worn out valve guides at 79,000 mi resulting in blue smoke at start-up, 20,000 mi brake pads, and numerous electrical problems

2000 S10 Xtreme, 2.2L manual tranny reg cab black mini (for commute purposes) :
Horrific stalling at 20K, dealer unable to fix after 4 tries. Possible defect, Engine management computer.

RE: Ford pickups: of the three owned, '83 F150, '94 F150, '95 Ranger XLT =0 DEFECTS, flawless operation...
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  • modvptnlmodvptnl Posts: 1,352
    1987 GMC 3/4 Ton, 454 TBI, 400 Auto. In 60,000 miles; 1 trans, 1 brake booster, rear howling, constant cracked exhaust manifolds, TBI linkage seals.......

    1985 Ford F250, 460 C6...Flawless

    1989 Ford F-350 460 5speed EFI...Flawless

    1996 Ford F-150 5.8 4x4. beat the crap out of it!!
    wheel bearing seals under warranty(might be because of the high speed mud crossings) and steering box after stuffing right front tire into ditch at 50mph @ 3am!! Also covered under warranty!!!

    '00 Super Duty...flawless

    '01 Super Duty.....may need to get cab/bed mounts tightened. Hear some popping over bumps occasionally.

    Oby, don't bother, there's not enough server space for your lemon.LOL!!!
  • ricschricsch Posts: 540
    Had the front end/steering vibration problem, had the rack & pinion tsb performed(little change) and went through the BBB and received a replacement '01 with no problems so far (4500 miles) I understand the lemon is in Oklahoma somewhere now.
  • nerdnerd Posts: 203
    May turn out to be the worst vehicle I ever bought. So far for 16,000 miles:
    - A/C blower replaced
    - throttle body replaced
    - steering rack replaced
    - the infamous 5.3L piston slap - knocks like mad when started cold (new pistons on the way, says GM)
    - front springs noise (dealer can't find)
    - door hinge covers loose (two tries - no luck)
    - driver seat back moves when starting from a stop(dealer can't find problem)
    - clunking underneath (dealer can't find)
    - pinging at highway speed (reprogramming computer helped)
    - coastdown vibration at 700rpm (dealer hung weights on the exhaust system...helped some)
    - harsh transmission shifts when cold (dealer said all OK - ha!)
    - bumping in steering at slow speed (dealer will attempt fix this week)

    Wish I had kept my '95 F150 Supercab...no major problems for 100K miles.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    it's your lame dealer. There are fixes for everything you posted. Just guess your dealer doesn't want or don't know how to read.
  • mrurlmrurl Posts: 116
    Re: transmission shifting when cold. The tranny is set to shift at higher RPM when cold to warm the engine up faster. Because the shift is at higher RPM, it feels a little harsher. This is normal.

    Peter
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Posts: 2,242
    1982 Datsun/Nissan King Cab. Blocked catalytic converter, multiple brake overhauls due to brakes locking up and not unlocking until the vehicle slid to a stop and was backed up, blown head gasket, fuel delivery problems, electrical problems. And all within 16K miles and 18 months. Invested over 11K and sold for 6K. Never again.
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    Like MRURL stated

    "harsh transmission shifts when cold (dealer said all OK - ha!)"

    That is normal read your manual (i believe it states this fact in there).

    Ryan
  • ricschricsch Posts: 540
    must have left the forum?
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    already in the various GM forums!
  • frey44frey44 Posts: 230
    XLT, 4x4, 5 speed auto, 4.0 pushrod V6. i CANNOT get the floorboard vibration out of it. new tires, drive-shaft, checked rotors, bearings, exhaust piping, and engine mounts. i have given up. TUNDRA here i come.
  • erikheikererikheiker Posts: 230
    Only lemon I've ever owned was a 77 Dodge D100. No problems with all my GM trucks or the one import I ever owned (Mazda B2000). Latest JD Power puts GM at 4, DC at 5 and Ford at 7. Obviously Ford is making a lot more customers unhappy than GM or even DC.
  • 9 trips to the dealer for Fuel Gauge not working. I'm one step away from going after GM for my 2001 S-10 LS Crew cab. Damn nice truck, but I can't live with a feul gauge that won't tell me how much gas I have.
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    FUEL GAUGE NOT WORKING

    Have they replaced the instrument cluster? Only thing that fixed my dads (92 S-10). His stopped working and only worked after 1/4 tank
  • smith53smith53 Posts: 72
    89 s-10...after two weeks ownership i realized every body panel was different shade,repainted truck.. electronic ignition goes out while riding down road,coasted to dealership..while going over speed hump at 10 mph glove box not only opens but falls in floor.. all in 14months of ownership
    96 silverado...after two months discovered overspray on frame rail, some body damage had been repaired..replaced fuel pump,stopped at dealership to complain about hard starting and the truck refused to start..anti-freeze leak at rear of engine, replaced intake gasket..anti-freeze leak at front of engine, replaced intake gasket..replaced alternator..had severe engine knock when totaled in auto accident.
    since i have had such good luck with my chevies i now own a 2000 silverado(my wifes comment:why another chevy?....good thing i never told her about my experience with my 78 olds cutlass).
  • smith53smith53 Posts: 72
    all of the above vehicles were bought new
  • 11,000 miles THREE engines, front axle seal, and intake manifold plenum gasket. First engine knocked like a diesel, told it was spark knock. Engine threw a rod at 7,000 miles. Dealership pieced engine back together (short block). Second engine siezed 4,000 miles later. Dealership repeated same repair as first. Now afraid to drive the truck, don't won't to be stranded on the side of the road a third time.
  • amoralesamorales Posts: 196
    left Front inside brake pad on my 2000 C2500 (90% freeway commute miles) wore out totally. I replaced all front pads. Paid $34.00 for lifetime semi-metallic pads for 8750# GVW truck. Took all of 45 mins to install and road test. I don't know if this qualifies as a lemon defect. I will monitor wearing of the pads. My old '83 Ford F150 long bed went 70,000 mi before front pad replacement and that was living in hilly San Francisco.
  • Worst lemon was a 1988 Ford F-150. This was the first extended cab truck with a short wheel base. Two-tone red with a 302, 5-speed manual. Georgous truck. It used a quart of oil every 500 miles, had a loud clunk in drive train when the cluch was let out. The paint flaked off and could be scratched with a fingernail. My dealer said all issues noted above were within Ford's acceptable limits. Clearly the worst vehicle I ever owned. Traded for a 90 GMC and have four new trucks since.....but no Fords.
  • knock1knock1 Posts: 3
    My gmc also knocks like a diesel,dash board rattles,back doors rattle when cold,truck skips at high speeds,all 4 tires are wearing uneven.gmc says this is all normal.They say Im not use to driving a truck. I paid 30000 for this garbage truck.I can not believe the total disrespect i got from gmc.AM I really that dumb to think my engine pistons rapping is a design built into the engine.I cannot believe how many people are falling for an extended warranty.Dont they know that after it expires they still have a vehicle worth less cause of a bad engine.Iam going to bbb on 10 19 ,what ever the out come i will refuse the offer and go right to lemon law with my lawyer.Gmc is nothing but GARBAGE MOTOR CORP.
  • googs3googs3 Posts: 2
    2001 2500 2wh dr had the tranny slipping so badly at every stop light that it looked like I wasn't going to make it home.New converter.1500 miles rebuild tranny.Has refused to budge at times on start up and then shifts ok after it stalls out and re-started.Dealer can never get it to do this?Has 11000 and still the same.
  • hutch7hutch7 Posts: 88
    '97 F-150 Flareside at 49K have had the following:

    1.Both doors replaced due to cracked sheet metal (cracked again!)

    2.Roof rails redone...cracking again!

    3. Pitman arm replaced, due to creaking and excess play

    4. O/D button no-workee

    5. Pass. side window barely goes down(dealer can't fix)

    6.Coolant leak from timing chain cover.

    Trading truck this week, NEVER BUY A FORD!!!!
  • Our truck hasn't quite reached lemon stage but...
    We have had the bushings replaced on the sway bar links because of constant squeaking. They were replaced about 2400 miles ago and there getting replaced again. There was a rattle underneath and we found out that the converter needs to be replaced. We've had the same problem as googs3...tranny slips or hesitates, truck stalls and then its ok after truck is restarted. Dealer says this will happen when the engine isn't warm...believe me, it happens warm or cold. Has anyone else had these problems and what did you do?
  • tomj5tomj5 Posts: 209
    The dash instruments fell apart. Engine would suddenly quit. Wipers sometimes work mostly not.
    Dealer got to hate the sight of me. I sold the pig at a loss but got rid of it. (No more Fords!)
  • I have learned my lesson - NEVER BUY A FIRST MODEL YEAR TRUCK!!! That was the biggest P.O.S. I've ever had the unfortunate experience of owning. The paint, typical GM - eventhough it was garaged, the paint flaked right off. The brakes - they were so stiff, you almost had to stand on the pedal to bring it to a stop, and that was without a trailer behind me. The power steering - next to nonexistant. The transmission - it was so weak that I almost burnt it up pulling a 4,000lb trailer, at 45 mph on fairly flat roads!!!!! The cooling system - too small for the truck. The capacity was just enough to keep up, if you put the engine or tranny in any strain at all, such as pulling a trailer or in light city traffic, it would overheat. The rear window - constantly leaked. The climate/radio controls - didn't work half the time.

    In short, it is my opinion that GM does not build their trucks strong enough to do the job they are supposed to do. I guess the days of a "real man's truck" - all metal, built like a tank, couldn't kill it if you wanted to, go absolutely anywhere, ride like a log wagon, scares women and small children kind of truck - are gone now that the manufacturers are catering to soccer moms and limp wristed real man wannabees.
  • Where do i start ??? 30 days 800 miles vehicle control module died,battery died. 60 days 854 miles transmission control module,powertrain control module, coil pack all died.4 months 3600miles rear door glass fell out on road.5 months 5559miles engine stalls with out warning at any speed,will restart after 30 minute cool down. dealer finds no problem.5600 miles stalls again while i have a load of lumber on rack , wood slides off front of rack and smashes hood,
    crank sensor,elec body control module now found bad .5609 miles ,stalls again same symptoms dealer has truck for 2 weeks, finds bad power train control module,2nd crank sensor,cam sensor all bad. when i picked it up i warned about lemon law possiblity here.. they said all fixed now... mechanic drove the shi* out of it and its all peachy now.....5 days later guess what? STALLS
    I call detriot to register a complaint and register it as the boat anchor that it should have been from the start... LOL GM Begs me to give them 1 last chance to fix truck before i do the lemon thing, they replace ign switch,throttle body,gas pedal and accel pedal assembly, 3rd crank sensor...oh did i tell you that i had to repair the hood with my pennies... 3 months of wonderful driving then it hits the fan.....steering shaft rattles loose at steering box,coolant leak on head,transmission shifts and slamms, shifting onto overdrive sounds like you are driving over a cattle crossing.... i call detriot to tell them the games are over, lemon law time.. they say they promised to buy back only if stall problem repeats not other issues, so sorry for me.. they replace transmission control module, steering shaft, reseal plug on head and tell me all is well!! 3 MILES LATER transmission control module trips 5 trouble codes and shift like shi*******... I Went to Dealer GM where i bought the truck and told him make GM BUY BACK THIS TRUCK OR THE PICKET SIGNS AND LEMONS GET PAINTED ON TRUCK AND I PARK IT ON THE STREET IN FRONT OF HIS DEALERSHIP FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES

    After 1 VCM,BATTERY,3 TCMS,2 PCMS,COIL PACK ,3 CRANK SENSORS,ELEC BODY CONTROL MODULE,CAM SENSOR,IGN SWITCH,GAS PEDAL AND ACC SENSOR ASSEMBLY,THROTTLE BODY,STEERING SHAFT, HEAD COOLANT LEAK ...GM is
    Repurchasing my truck . I hope the buy back goes as fast as they took my 14000 down payment....i will keep all posted....
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Posts: 2,242
    Re: your truck. Either you have a dealer who is clueless on truck repair, or you have a truck that took a major electrical hit at some point. Something along the lines of a bad voltage regulator allowing high output. GM (and Ford and Dodge,for that matter) use the same modules and control systems across literally tens of thousands of vehicles PER MONTH. Because of my background (product development in electronics) I view with great interest problems such as what you have encountered. While I know you have had lots of problems here, I would guess that your dealer is at least a good portion of the problem. Having one crank sensor go bad is possible, two unlikely, three and you have what we call "shot-gunning". This is what happens when the repairman hasn't a clue to what is wrong. I had a GMC van that would stumble and stall when coming off idle. The tech replaced the throttle position sensor because that was the code that was stored. A week later, problem came back, same code stored. Only this time, a different tech looked at the previous repair and found a bad connection in the wiring harness. He repaired the connector and the van has run for the last 6 years and 65K miles without ever having that problem again.

    I detail this for you and others who think they have a complete lemon when the problem is a dealer whose techs cannot find the root cause of a failure. I do know that lemons exist. You cannot mass produce anything without getting a dog every once and a while. Even something as simple as lightbulbs sometimes burn out the first time you apply power. Just try to find a dealer with a good service reputation no matter what brand you buy. Good luck,

    Jim
  • rayt2rayt2 Posts: 1,208
    My 86 Chevy 1/2 ton long box w/4.3 was my first brand new truck that turned into a lemon. I had buy back done under New York State Lemon Law w/18,500 miles on it.
    BUT, I did not give up on GM and ordered the first year run of the 88 Ext Cab w/4.3, that turned out to last me 12 years before I sold it w/126000 miles and ordered the 2000 Silverado I have now. As JLFlemmons writes there are some bad runs in a production line and it must have taken a major electrical hit at one point to cause those electrical problems.
    Good Luck on your next truck no matter what brand it be!

    Ray T.
  • i have all the common problems that the silverado owners have, like brake fade and shutter on bumpy roads,engine clatters like mad after sitting a day,stiff acc pedal,clunking noise in rear end,third door rattles,clunking noise under dash,weird tire wear especially on the left front, trans feels like it shudders on take off,wind noise around back windows(pop out kind),strange noise coming from the steering column under dash,various vibrations at various speeds ect.. i went to the dealer on a couple of these but was told that was normal for this model.went back after the warranty was up 38,700 mi on the trans and throttle sticking. I was told sorry you're warranty is out.i think because I bought a program truck instead of new I was somehow a sub standard customer.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    "program" truck?
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    just curious how come you didnt take it back in while it was under 36K?
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