Mazda6 Sedan

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  • mpiatekmpiatek Member Posts: 68
    I caught a glimpse of a blue Mazda 6 (with sport package) going the other way in traffic today. It stood out from all the other cars, and I did a double take ("What was that?"). :-) I still can't make up my mind between the blue and the red. Every time I think I've made a decision, I see the other color, and it changes my mind. I guess I have another couple of months to decide though. I'll probably order one at the beginning of April.

    Mike
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    Benz makes the best cars on the planet! They have alot of stuff in the Benz camp that has gone wrong since 1998. I'll give you BMW and Lexus though.

    I have only seen 7 6's. I hate how the state I live in Mazda's are not popular. So many Honda's and Toyota's. I haven't seen one since 2 weeks ago. I went to Philly yeasterday and they had a few billboards with the 6 plastered on it on I-95. Still I saw no 6's. I saw 3 new Accord Sedans. I saw an 03 Accord Sedan pass a second generation Acura Legend. The Legend relased in 1991 looked better than the Accord that just came out. At least the 6 looks better than the late 80/early 90's 626. I saw a 6 once and this kid was driving it. He had to be in his 20's. Sales better be up because I haven't seen any lately and I look. The Sales chart should be out in 2 more weeks for car sales.

    Yeah when the Protege Sedan came out in 99 you hardly saw any. About when the first half of 2000 was up you saw some. The Pro 5 has gotten more popular and really wasn't seen on roads when it first came out. The mid-size market is tougher though to penetrate. The Camry/Accord names are hard to compete with.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    Go for the blue.

    I saw the yellow yesterday and it's really an eye-catcher. It begs for the spoiler and sport grill in that color.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    Dealers are setting how many 6's that can be sold! Thats wrong especially in Mazda's situation. This is a company that has been in and out of the black since 1998. They need a home-run hit. We have seen the minor hits with the Pro Sedan(99-03), Pro 5, and Miata. Been There done that. Need a home run now.

    As for women buying the 6. Like I said before I saw a guy in his 20's drive one and this other guy drive one. I didn't notice the other 5 if they were a woman or a man. Alot of 03 Accords are driven by women.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    As previously stated, and confirmed by MY dealer, Mazda6's are on ALLOCATION. What that means is that the factory cannot make enough to satisfy all the dealers, and you get only part of what you ordered. So how is it that dealers are setting how many 6's can be sold?
  • kyjd75kyjd75 Member Posts: 10
    Steel gray, with the works. Black leather, sport package, 5AT, bose, moonroof, etc. Sticker was slightly over 26K, paid $400 over invoice (23,925). Great car! Only problem so far is avoiding speeding tickets.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    Back in early January, Flat Rock was only pumping out around 500 units a day. That's way below normal production when you consider Ford cranks out 2000+ F150's in a single day. I know, I know - the 6 probably won't move in F150 quantities - but hopefully you get my point. Plus, the plant wasn't holding too many cars on site.

    Once the plant ramps up to full production, the allocation should subside. Unless of course, the 6 becomes a runaway success. I kinda doubt that'll happen though. While a VERY good car, we all know it's aimed at a slightly different group than the Camcorditmas of the world.

    Was the target of 80,000 units/year in the US, North America or worldwide? Can't be worldwide.
  • baydogbaydog Member Posts: 15
    my local mazda dealer (suburb of Philadelphia), which i would estimate is no larger than an average mazda dealer, currently has 25 6s's and 24 6i's on the lot. i don't see where there's a shortage of vehicles. and yet i noticed that edmunds is listing their TMV nearly equal to MSRP. is this an error? can 6's be had for close to invoice price? i'm a few months away from my lease ending, so i have time. what have people here been paying in terms of price over invoice?
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    I've seen Muranos all over the place though. Are they giving those things away or what. I've even seen several FX45's. That's a big ole nice SUVthing.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    I was answering somebody who said before something about how many 6's can be put on lots and sold. I have seen few Murano's around but not alot. Maybe 3 that I have seen. Mazda is really not marketing this car enough. I have seen around 55 Accords. I hope this car is not a flop. Its too good for that.
  • stretchsjestretchsje Member Posts: 700
    Mazda sells just enough to be considered a success and to show other manufacturers that sporty can still sell in the USA- but no more sales than necessary for this, as to keep my '6 unique.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    It has to sell 70K units. I don't think they are going to sell 80K especially in this economy.
  • choppermakerchoppermaker Member Posts: 31
    My dealer finally called today with a build date for the loaded 6s w/ sport package that I ordered back in mid-December. Unfortunately, that date is April 1st. They really weren't kidding about running into delays with V6s and sport packages. Assuming 3-4 weeks for manufacturing and shipping and dealer prep, I should finally get my 6 only 18-19 weeks after ordering.

    On the brighter side, I've only seen 2 Mazda 6's on the road here in the northeast - one in CT in white w/ the sport package, and one plain one in silver seen in NH. So, my lapis blue one with the sport package and sport grille will still be plenty unique when it finally arrives.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    I'm flying up to Spokane to pick up my M6s on Saturday. They quoted me $23.800 (but it doesn't have leather or a sunroof) so the price you got was great.
    Edmunds does list TMV at MSRP for this car. And I believe it's only because they're difficult to find with "options".
    Sure, the base car comes with tons of great stuff...but a sports package is hard to find. Hence, I'm flying to a dealer 6+ hours from my home. The drive back should be great tho.
    I'll share it with you all next week.
    Car is M6s with sport, auto, and upgrade stereo. Dark grey metalic with black cloth.
    I can't wait.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    I saw one. Metallic orange something (I hate it on the Mazdaspeed Protege too). I was amazed at how much uglier (my opinion only) it was in person than in print.

    At least Nissan's trying different styling. Too bad it's mostly ugly (like Cadillac). What are they teaching in car design schools these days?
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    I've been watching very carefully since early January and I've not ONCE seen a Mazda6 on the road, in any configuration.
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    My dealer finally called today with a build date....that date is April 1st.

    Of course, they are just kidding.

    :-)
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    I think the Altima looks good. The Q45 and 350Z are good looking. The Murano doesn't look ugly or real nice its just there I guess(can't put it any other way.) The G35 is not my taste. The Maxima is odd looking to say the least. Cadillac: The Escalade is decent. The CTS is not my cup of tea.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    In addition to my own yellow one. I've seen silver,ti gray & a white (all sport pkg)

    I constantly see a yellow non-sport one on the way to work. She obviously works nearby. Yellow is not the best color for non-sport models.
  • combustible1combustible1 Member Posts: 264
    In the Chicago area.. dark grey, sports pkg. and one in Peoria (Central Illinois, of all places).. silver, sports pkg., young lady driver.

    I don't understand this constant refrain of "Mazda isn't marketing it enough", because it seems like I see the TV commercial every two freakin' seconds!
  • choppermakerchoppermaker Member Posts: 31
    Yeah, I'm not holding my breath at least until they say it's on a truck on its way. Maybe sometime next September? :)
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    I have seen sightings of the car but not alot of them. You say Millenia like sales again. I would be thinking in order for this car to be a success you have to see some on the road but I haven't seen enough. Of course I didn't see that many Pro Sedans when they first came out. Maybe 2-5 in its first year sales so you never know. Mazda is marketing enough but where are all the 6's?
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    What is your source for the 70K units?
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    units. It was discussed here a while back.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    Hey owners:

    Anyone have the 17 inch tires? What PSI do you run them at?
    I'm looking at a 6+ hour drive home after buying. I want the shop to check the tire pressure before I leave to make sure it's not too high (they tend to overfill at the dealers it seems). What is the recommended pressure (on the tire)? and what pressure works best for your M6?
    Thanks.
    Cookie.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    I have the 17's and whatever the manual or the side of the tire says is what I always try to run.

    I want to say 32 psi, but I'm not positive.
  • pda97pda97 Member Posts: 91
    I've seen ONE 6 in San Diego. Where are they ? No one buying them ? I'll be very curious to find out the 6's sales figure in a few days. Last month Mazda sold about 2500 6s or so. Terrible !
  • baydogbaydog Member Posts: 15
    ...the dealers must be collecting them. i doubt they are holding out for MSRP, there's too many on the lots. still next to none on the road though.

    here's my criticism. mazda has been heavily advertising in newspapers a $249 lease. why would they resort to advertising based on price so soon after the car came out?? makes no sense. at the same time, toyota has a TV ad w/ a bright red camry--it hurts to type this--doing crazy agile maneuvers. viewers and readers come away thinking that the camry is geared to sporty driving and the 6 to budget-savvy consumers. this is nuts. what am i missing??
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    I actually asked if they could overnight me the manual so I could read up before I get to Spokane (about 1 hour plane ride) But they wouldn't do it... I guess just in case I don't show up and they're short a manual.
    I'll have to wait to "really" figure out how this car works.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    The weather has been horrid for the bulk of the nation's population for the last four months, and it isn't going to get better for a while. People hate car shopping in snow of any depth.

    Car buying season is at least a month or two away. The fact that things aren't moving isn't a surprise. Launching a new car in December is odd, and I'm being kind. Fact is, it's also the toughest selling environment anyone has seen in 20 years or more.

    The nation is debating about turning Iraq into one big piece of glass and the economy can't decide if it's coming or going. Consumer confidence has finally bit the dust.

    With just one of the above conditons, you'd have a fairly decent case for slow sales. With all of this, it's a surprise Alan Greenspan gets out of bed in the morning and that anything is selling at all. With exceedingly few exceptions, NOTHING is flying off the lots or shelves right now.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    Basic (no sports package). Saw a sleek shape a few rows over in the supermarket parking lot out of the corner of my eye.

    I have to say (much as I can't stand black cars...too hot) they look nice.
  • sdiorisdiori Member Posts: 20
    Has anyone been able to find any preouts for aubs and amps????
    And if so, how well does it sound?
  • stretchsjestretchsje Member Posts: 700
    There's a crease in the side of my baby, right above the style 'line' that follows through the doors from front to rear. Someone with a tallish car opened their door into my car. God forbid I find a person in my lot with red paint on the end of their door.

    It's not too bad- only noticeable in the reflection- but my virgin car wasn't ready to be assaulted, raped, or disecrated by another careless jerk in this manner. How hard is it to control your door?! I always park well away from people- you'd have to make a conscious effort to ding me. I suspect one of my neighbors since I park in a lot. I'm pissed.

    To answer my own question, it's not hard at all to control your door in the Mazda6. Open it half way to the first "notch", and beyond that the door will stay where you leave it. Nice car :)
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    what can you do? besides leave her at home in the garage. Sorry stretch.

    Few years back in another forum a woman told the story of walking out of the store and seeing a person leaning on her brand new vehicle to write a check! The owner grabbed her key fob and hit the "panic" button setting off the alarm.

    The check writer jumped, then walked away. Didn't even say sorry.
    Losers.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    When the 6 first came out, my local dealer only had 2 6i models for two months!! Two months both of them sat on the lot because they were trying to get MSRP for them.

    I am looking at the six, espeically the 6s. But I cannot get the options the way I want them, which makes me mad as hell. When configured like the Accord EXV6, the 6 either costs a little more or a little less. I really would like a 6s and Altima, along with the Camry SE.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    I was talking with a Honda salesmen a couple months ago.

    He says that when he and his wife were younger, they were leaving out of a store in St. Louis, and some lady had put her groceries on top of his brand new car. He ask her "What in the world are you doing" She goes "I'm putting my groceries on this car beacause I don't want to strach mine."

    Well, after she gets in her car, he takes the buggy and knocks the heck out of the side of her bumper. And she gets out and ask "What are you doing" He goes "Well, I was trying to put my groceries in my car, and I didn't want to bump mine."

    I thought it was too funny.
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    there is a sticker on the door jamb that has the reccomended tire pressures on it. Don't use the maximum pressure on the tire unless you want a terribly stiff ride.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    Don't want a stiff ride when your first ride is 6 hours... ha!

    I plan to adjust the rpm a lot as I cruise through the beautiful Columbia River Gorge (so the engine breaks in correctly)... and I bet I'll be adjusting the seat a lot too, so I don't get a stiff back to go with the stiff ride.
  • aromasaromas Member Posts: 314
    Zaimon: I was talking about the grilles not the shape of the cars! It is similar to the Jettas in that both grilles have body colored ridges across it. Nothing else. I never implied that you said the Camry looked like a 6 nor did I say that the Jetta looked like a 6. You misunderstood. I am looking at a picture of a Camry at this very moment and I don't see anything similar about the grilles. The Camry is not body colored and the lines running across are straight(and thinner) not angular like the 6. I see millions of Camrys around too but I've never thought that the grilles looked at all alike. The shape of it is similar but half the cars out there have that shape. In fact with the mesh background on the Camry I think the factory grille has more in common with it than the sports one. Maybe it's just me. Nahh they don't look alike. Sorry!
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    One time, my mother said she came out of the stoe to find her car was hit pretty badly, and a note on the windshield. When she got the note, it read, "I am leaving this so people think I am leaving my information because I hit your car. Sorry."

    She said all she could do was stand there and almost cry. I don't blame her, I probably would have done about the same thing.
  • ahtempahtemp Member Posts: 3
    finally got my steel grey 6s (at/sport/bose/comfort)! it's fun watching people look at your car. dealers here (socal) were sooo snooty, so i went got mine through carsdirect. wasn't the greatest deal (but under invoice, which the dealers weren't willing to give me), but sure was glad i didn't have to talk to any more sales people who were telling me how they can't deal down because they have this opportunity to finally make a few bucks!
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Congrats guys!

    Take it easy if possible for the first 1000 miles and vary your speed. Also lower your tire pressure b/c most likely the dealer will give you a car with 40PSI.

    Why do they charge for PDI if they can't even check the tire pressure? Audiaq8 or maltb: care to answer?

    Dinu
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    The sport package models are bringing MSRP around here due to the lack of supply and the high demand, but the other 6 packages are being reasonably discounted....We are now seeing alot of people who drove the 6 when it first hit the dealership now buying, finally.
    The last 7 days have been huge for our mazda stores. Not our other brands, just mazda. Tributes and MPV's are flying off the shelves. A week ago we had 30 Tributes in stock and today we have 7. similar numbers with the MPV. I guess there is alot of pent up demand out there. which is great for everyone.
  • 626to6626to6 Member Posts: 14
    I'm buying in about 2 1/2 weeks. I received several quotes online from dealers in the Houston area. The best so far is $22,995 plus TT&L for a 6s automatic with comfort and sport package, leather, moonroof, and sport grille. I saw the sport grille on a loaded yellow 6s and it is a must. The regular chrome grille doesn't work for me. I think this offer is a keeper because the MSRP on this configuration is $25,335 and the invoice is $23,014 according to Edmunds. So this quote is actually $19 below invoice. Of course I will let the other dealers know about this quote to get the lowest possible price. What do you guys and gals think? Is this price a keeper?
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    Does the dealer have good service? Is the dealer convenient to you? Do you like how you are treated there?

    Price IS important, but it often is not the only thing. I have sometimes bought cars from dealers who did not have the best price, but who had by far the most professional and competent service department, who were courteous and cheerful, and who always gave me a loaner when I brought the car in for service. What's important to you?
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    That sucks really, really bad. It happened to my Protege when it was still new. Someone backed into the back bumper and punctured a hole in the bumper cover and scratched it all up. Of course, they didn't leave a note. I had a queasy feeling in my stomach almost immediately and started thinking some very evil thoughts.

    People who do that kind of stuff are worthless. They should stop experimenting on helpless animals and start experimenting on these folks.
  • otoluvaotoluva Member Posts: 196
    Congrats on your new Mazda, you mentioned that you bought the car from carsdirect, I'm just curious about the whole experience of buying on line, can you please tell us more details.
    Thanks and enjoy the new wheels.
  • alexm234alexm234 Member Posts: 10
    Thats a great deal. I too am in the Houston area and am thinking of purchasing a M6s exactly the same way your configuration is. What dealer are you buying from? I'd take that deal. Reply Back Thanks

    Alex
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    From 02/22/03 Toronto Star Wheels Section

    Sterling family car isn't for everyone
    by: Laurance Yap

    "The steering is sharp, the suspension motions are controlled with an iron fist, and the brakes are impressively powerful; grip from those huge tires is fantastic"

    "Though it lacks a certain amount of subtlety...it isn't like anything else in the class and is built to quality standards that feel more European than Japanese"

    Don't know if that's a good thing - Japanese cars are usually more reliable (See News and Views discussion).

    "Mazda really nailed the 6, as it is sportier and more engaging than any other mainstream family sedan out there"

    "Has Mazda got its mojo back? It sure looks like it from the driver's seat of the 6"

    Talk about productivity at work tonite! Typing about the 6 and actually doing work too. I never knew multitasking would be this easy :)

    Dinu
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    but one time I was at a mall looking at a new Acura Legend parked near my car. The new Legend was parked away from other cars. A family driving an old Ford van pulled up to the Legend, the kids in the back threw the double-side doors open and put a big dent in the Legend's door. Then they drove off to find a parking space close to the entrance.

    Some people hate new cars when they can't afford one.

    I got the van's license number, description of the people, and put it on the Legend's windshield, saying I would be happy to appear as a witness and gave my phone number. The owner never called.

    This is why I love digital cameras small enough to carry with you -- irrefutable evidence of deliberate acts. :D

    What you also have to be careful about is pulling into big parking lots, watch for backup lights coming on, people don't turn around and look before backing up. They use their mirrors. I have been T-boned twice like this.

    fowler3
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