Mazda6 Sedan

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  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Beige leather will be hard to keep clean, because it usually comes with beige carpeting. I would choose black, it's easy to clean and doesn't get too hot unless you have a dark outer color. Otherwise, grey.
  • psuf4ipsuf4i Member Posts: 16
    I'm not sure if this was posted before or not. If it was, I'm sorry for the repost.

    I received an email from a local dealer today. She told me that Mazda is offering 3.9% financing for 60 months on ALL Mazda 6's thru the end of March and it could possibly be extended farther.

    Are sales doing that badly that incentives are needed already?
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    The 3.9% is NOT on all Mazda6's...only the 'I' model.....of course if you have exceptional credit I can get that from several banks....so it's not exactly a fire sale.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    You won't find many good Mazdas on used car lots though. I mean the 6, Protege/P5, Miata, MPV (y'know, the reliable ones that have little or no junk Ford content...some Ford parts are good, after all).

    I know I take a depreciation hit when I buy new, but at least it doesn't smell funny. ;)
  • mcgurgdmcgurgd Member Posts: 2
    Just wondering if anyone traded a 626 for a 6 and what the difference is. I have 96 4cyl auto that I like a lot, but the 6 looks awesome. My 626 has been very reliable - even the tranny - so I hope the 6 can be as good if not better.
  • buggywhipbuggywhip Member Posts: 188
    I just came from a quick drive-thru of my local Mazda dealer (MA). Its inventory of 6's is about 25 percent less than it was a month ago. So the car MUST be selling, and surely better than I originally reported.
  • altersysaltersys Member Posts: 56
    I admit the '6 has a much grabbier brake pedal than other cars, but I've also noticed in several test drives with cars of varying mileage that brand-new '6's have not had their pads bedded into the rotors yet, so they are exceptionally grabby. If you follow proper bedding procedures (as anyone should with a new car or with new pads/rotors), the grabbiness will reduce significantly and the rotors will last a long time.

    -Alt
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    I can almost guarantee you the somewhat slow sale of the Mazda6 has VERY LITTLE to do with the REAL reason Charlie Hughes was fired.... it's just a cover-up excuse

    any Mazda corporate insiders want to share the juicy infighting tidbits with everyone? ;-)
  • toolman02toolman02 Member Posts: 59
    3.9% financing, available mp3 player, and side air bags / ABS available as a stand-alone package.

    if I could get that and $500 over invoice... well let's just say my tax return wouldn't be in my bank account for long.
  • skyrayskyray Member Posts: 156
    Surprised about the safety options not selling. I'd have bought the 6s with side airbags had there been a gray one closer to me than Connecticut. (We've had discussions before about how too many options make life hard for dealers... IMHO it's just that the options currently on the lots aren't optimal combos. Hopefully dealer feedback will help Mazda fix that.)

    As for the financing... Note right here on the front page of Edmunds, Peoplefirst advertises 3.99%. (That's just for up to 36 months; longer than that you're looking at 4.24%/up.) I used them to finance my 6. Dealing with them couldn't have been more painless. Once the dealer figured out how to process the check, everything went great.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    i hate the fact that if you want a 6 w/ Sport package, or a Protege ES, you HAVE to have a black interior.

    I want a BEIGE interior and a sport package. Mazda, are you listening.

    The 6 without the sport package looks pretty dull. If I had my choice I would get the sport package with lip spoiler, not the honking huge wing.

    I gotta go test drive a 6 soon, although my real interest lies in either the HATCHBACK or WAGON. HEY MAZDA, TOO BAD YOU DON'T HAVE THEM HERE YET!
  • igota6ssssssigota6ssssss Member Posts: 9
    Am I alone among the 6 owners on this board in LOVING the sound every time I close a door on my 6? What a satisfying "thunk"! The Miata used to be like banging 2 aluminum cans together (slight exaggeration)!
  • wotolliverwotolliver Member Posts: 6
    6s - Red with black cloth - AT,Sport Package, Bose, SAB, Sport Grille, Alarm Sensor, Cargo Organizer and Tray, Homelink and Wheel Locks. Must sell my 2000SE Miata before the 6 arrives.
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    I don't like the lip spoiler, but LOVE the wing! I prefer the black interior to beige/grey.
    I won't pay more than $100 for the side skirts and front spoiler.

    But,

    I LOVE the way the wagon looks - and I'm 22. I also find the HB the BEST body style.

    So you see, Mazda can't please everyone. As long as they please those that are genuinely interested in this car, it should do well.

    Dinu
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    carsdirect price of mazda6 with 5-speed stick with power moonroof is @23,780 (no SAB)
    comparable Accord is priced at @24,350 with SAB and power passenger seat and 5-speed Automatic.

    for @600 usd more, you get SAB+powerseat+Autotrans?

    Funny....
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    This is my only screen name. Just wanted to make that clear since there have been some pretty harsh posts recently.
  • skyrayskyray Member Posts: 156
    Sure, but how much is the option to add Mazda 6 handling and appearance to the Accord? :-) It's apples and oranges.

    However, I agree that SAB should be standard on the 6, as they are in some other countries. This is a "cheap" decision by Mazda that will likely result in some serious injuries and deaths.

    (My 6 doesn't have SAB, and I've had happily paid for them, but I couldn't find a car with SAB and the other equipment I wanted within a three hour drive of here.)
  • choppermakerchoppermaker Member Posts: 31
    Anyone have any idea how the sport package would look without the rear wing? Anyone skilled with Photoshop out there, or anyone that's actually taken it off? I'd love to see how the sport package's ground effects look without the towel bar on the trunk.
  • stretchsjestretchsje Member Posts: 700
    It also looks good without the cladding but with the spoiler.

    Together, it can be a bit much.

    Check it out at the pictures section of www.mazda6club.com/forum/
  • windy6windy6 Member Posts: 57
    Well, I've driven 3 6s at two dealers. One thing I really like is the way the driver's seat goes so far back, I'm 6'2", 34" inseam. Regarding the 4 cyl, automatic: If I wanted a Chevy Cavalier I'd have gone to the Chevy dealer. Just my opinion.
    I like the V6 with any package, although some of the combination requirements turn me off. The funny thing is, when my wife went to look, she thought the interior felt as small as her Subie Forester???? Strangely enough she thinks the Jetta feels bigger than either.
    I've looked at a couple of 02 Millenias but the drivers seats seem to only go back far enough for someone 5' 7". So I guess we're still looking, although a decenly priced black Millenia could decide me.
    windy6
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    I'm 6'6" 38" inseam. I've driven a couple of them and they are kinda tight. The 6 (optional seats) fit me like a glove.
  • toolman02toolman02 Member Posts: 59
    chopper: if you email me a picture, i can remove the wing for you so you can see what it looks like. check my profile for my email address. if anyone else wants some pictures changed, you can email me a pic too.

    also, i took the edmunds pic of the redfire 6 with sport package and changed the front to a sport grill to see what it would look like. It looks really sharp, and I'd love to post a pic, but i don't have anywhere to host it. :(
  • stretchsjestretchsje Member Posts: 700
    Spunky, and with lots of torque available over a wide rpm band, the 2.3-liter engine was satisfying. Mazda has tuned this motor to deliver a flat torque curve and an appealing exhaust note. Ninety percent of the engine's maximum torque is available between 1,750 rpm and 6,000 rpm, making it quite tractable for daily commuting in rush-hour traffic. Though the 6 is relatively refined, noise, vibration and harshness are evident, especially at extra-legal speeds and higher revs. Most people who opt for a four-cylinder with a manual transmission will be happy, if not overjoyed, with the selection.

    Don't dismiss the 4-banger!!! I think the difference with this review is that the car had already been prepped by Mazda, meaning the engine should have been broken in.
  • jbchapmanjbchapman Member Posts: 21
    Although some folks on this board found the brakes grabby, I didn't find that at all. From the first day out with my 6s, the brakes felt just right to me--firm and decisive.
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    * Anyone skilled with Photoshop out there, or anyone that's actually taken it off?*

    I can make changes in photos if you want to see them, using Photoshop. Got your email address and will change one tomorrow and send it to you.

    fowler3
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    Saw the new 6 commercial someone mentioned earlier. 6i based and they show a no sport package car.

    Although there's been a lot of complaining that Mazda wasn't pushing the car - I'd guess this is part of the rollout plan.

    Intro one iteration of the car, make the public aware of the models existence at all without confusing them with more than one 'look'. Then show them what else is available. Betcha 4 bangers start moving a little better now that they've got their own marketing support.
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    I saw that commercial the past 2 nights.

    That blue sure does look darker than in real life. Wish the REAL Lapis Blue was the color of the one on TV.
  • duskduskduskdusk Member Posts: 10
    Someone posted on here about mileage and the 6. The 6 gets fine mileage because it's tuned to burn regular gas. If you want a v6 sport in many other manufacturers' models you'd be shelling for premium. So the Accord may get better mileage but it's on premium so the gas costs should be close.
  • barrysobarryso Member Posts: 66
    "Don't dismiss the 4-banger!!! I think the difference with this review is that the car had already been prepped by Mazda, meaning the engine should have been broken in."

    I've been meaning to ask you about the 6i when the AC/defroster is running. All of the 4 cyl. cars I've driven have had power problems when using the AC. What is your opinion of the 6i with AC grabbing power?
  • duskduskduskdusk Member Posts: 10
    As for AC when you have a smaller engine it's gonna grab some of your power on almost any car. It's prolly less noticeable on the 6s. The ACC also uses the AC. I am wondering if the AC is in Stand-by mode like your computer monitor when the CPU is off and only gets used when you actually want the cold air. I'm interested in hearing what monsieur Stretch says. A detailed report please.
  • stretchsjestretchsje Member Posts: 700
    Being that this is the coldest winter Maryland has had in years, I haven't used the A/C much. When I do use it, I'm usually not driving hard, because my windows are foggy.

    That said, I haven't noticed any drop in performance due to the A/C being on. I'm sure its there (it has to be), but I haven't noticed it. On my last car, A/C was simply not an option going uphill on the highway, but not this one- no problems at all yet.

    I think with the ACC, if AC usage were noticable, you'd feel it kicking in and out every few minutes. AC can't have a standby mode- the compressor is either turning (and cooling) or it's not. If it is, you're using your engine power. This might be why the ACC is only on the V6- because the 'kicking in' effect would be pronounced on the i4.

    Then again, I haven't noticed it. Give me a few months.
  • skyrayskyray Member Posts: 156
    Given that I'm in Vermont in winter, I haven't been running the AC. However, I did have the defroster on (which engages the AC compressor) and didn't notice any power drop on the 6s. Obviously there must be *something*, but it's not noticeable so far.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    Igotta6.... I love that sound too! I think the doors are very well insulated and that helps give it that muffled thump sound when you close them. I also like that you can tell they're closed. Some car doors "look" closed but aren't shut all the ways.

    Gee35 is 6foot6???!!!! Guess we're not going to be "thumping" him for his comments... heheheheh.
  • redkey1redkey1 Member Posts: 270
    Isn't it obvious? Also, anyone know if / when the new mazda site will be back up?
  • buggywhipbuggywhip Member Posts: 188
    Stretchjse, you've been using your a/c all winter; you're forgetting that the a/c compressor runs to defog/defrost your windows. In fact, in some cars, the a/c compressor is ALWAYS on. That's why compressors burn out so much nowadays.........but the fact that you haven't noticed much power drop is a testament to the 6's engine.
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    below which the compressor will not /cannot kick in.....and in this winter???

    Summer is your best bet to find this out.

    turn on all your lights, defroster, and then see whether the engine can take the load.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    Lapis Blue has a point but I think Mazda has acknowleged the situation with the 5 speed manuals. They understand they must produce more. I'm 23 and I do think the 6 does look better with the sport package. Past Protege, Millenia, and 626 buyers will probably get it without the sport package though.

    As for the 6 running with the A/C on I had a 92 Mustang and that thing wasn't good with the A/C on. Of course the 626 I had wasn't slow with the A/C on.

    BTW, I saw my 8th 6 yeterday. It was a blue one with the spoiler and the sport package I think it had on it. At first glance I thought It was some other car but it was a 6. Looked nice too in that blue color. I'm suprised people haven't seen any 6's yet and I have seen 8. Whats going on here? Like I have said in the past Mazda's sell bad where I live. The Protege 5 and 6 have been selling good here by what I have seen on the road.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    On the M6s... there's a button to turn the A/C off. If I crank the fan, turn off the AC button and ask for heat to 75degrees, is my A/C still on?
    I'm thinking "no"... but you can't really tell from the owner's manual. I turn the A/C off each time I turn on the air. I just can't get over the feeling that a/c is only for cold air. And I sure don't need cold air now.

    So am I wrong? If I hit the A/C button and the light goes out... is the compressor still running?
     
    Cookie.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    In my Protege, when you turn the setting to defrost or defrost/feet or just feet, you can hear the A/C compressor kick in. The A/C light does not light up on the dash in any of these settings unless you physically press the button. In either case, the A/C compressor is running.
  • skyrayskyray Member Posts: 156
    If you turn off the AC button, the compressor will only kick in if you turn on the defroster, or if you put the system back in Auto mode. (Auto mode turns the AC button back on, too, if I remember right.)
  • qddaveqddave Member Posts: 164
    Here is Canadian Driver's point of view on the Mazda 6s. It's nothing really new, although there's a little news on the 4cyl engine that I had not heard before.

    www.canadiandriver.com/articles/rr/04m6.htm
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    "So the Accord may get better mileage but it's on premium so the gas costs should be close."

    Correction...The Accord is only required to use regular. However there is a rumor if you use premium it puts out over the rated HP.
  • accord7accord7 Member Posts: 96
    I would really like to read about the Mazda6 on their updated website. However, the crazy madromedia flash is the only way to get in and it won't work for me. I've spent the last hour trying to find a way to bypass that, but there is no way around it as far as I can tell. It just says madromedia is loading and then freezes. Hey, Mazda, drop the fancy stuff and just let me read, okay?
  • mrblonde49mrblonde49 Member Posts: 626
    >>I'm suprised people haven't seen any 6's yet and I have seen 8. Whats going on here?<<

    I'm really not sure. I STILL have not seen a single one. Besides the fact that I am normally looking at cars on the road, I have been exprssly looking for a 6 for a month now. And I am traveling on a congested highway in NJ (rtes 80/280), 60 miles roundtrip each day. Very strange
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    >>> I just can't get over the feeling that a/c is only for cold air.<<<

    A/C means Air conditioner and not Air cooler.
    So whether it be hot or cold, what it does is it makes the air more breathable by removing the moisture from it.
  • focusedztsfocusedzts Member Posts: 10
    I like the sport package but I'm not sure it it is worth it overall. Most importantly I would like some comparisons between the Optitron gauges and the regular gauges. Likes/dislikes between the gauge types anyone?
  • buggywhipbuggywhip Member Posts: 188
    chikoo, you hit it right on the head. That's as good a description of 'air conditioner' as I've ever heard..............by the way, here's the real scoop on why that Mazda exec got canned:

    http://www.automotivedigest.com/view_art.asp?articlesID=8593

    It's as most of us suspected--poor 2002 sales and a slow 6 release. More astute posters (myself not included) noted that he failed to release the 6 with adequate numbers of 6-cyl. engines--another factor mentioned in the article..........I'm curious, however. The article notes that he wanted to use up the remaining 626 engines. But surely not for the 6?? The 626 is 2.0L, the 6 is 2.3L--a totally different engine.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I think that the Optitron gauges light up when you turn on the car, without turning on the headlights. The standard ones only light when you turn on the headlamps. I am assuming here, as I haven't driven a non-Sport Pkg. 6.
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    The Automotive news article in Monday's edition had much more info in it. One of the key points was that he didn't get along with Ford and Mazda execs.
  • skyrayskyray Member Posts: 156
    Vocus,

    You're right about the non-sport 6. By day the gauges are normal white-on-black. When you turn on the headlights, the white sections glow red.

    I haven't seen the sport gauges. It'd be interesting to compare the effect at night.
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