Changing your tires from 245/70R16 to 265/70R16 will affect your speedometer but only by about 4% which means when your driving 60mph your speedometer will read about 58 mph. 245/70R16: 29.4" High : 92.4" circumference 265/70R16: 30.5" High : 95.8" circumference 3.7% increase.
The use of an adapter is required for the trailer lights. Even a better idea is the use of an isolating system due to the number of micro processors used in the Tundra.
On my last trip I got 19.89 mpg.Overall I have averaged 17.5 with previous fillups. I have a 4x4 Access Cab with 2000 miles. Mixture of city/highway. This vehicle is so good I am reduced to complaining about no cover on the visor mirror and too many controls on the steering column . Toyota has hit a home run.
On Friday Sept. 3 we were on our way camping in our new Tundra, SR5,V8,TRD,4x4,Access Cab, with a tonneau cover. We got into a bad hail storm. The hail stones were about 3/4" (about the size of a marble). We were in the storm for about 10 minutes. Other cars were trying to pull off to the side to get under the trees. It was very loud in side the cab. It sounded like the windshield was going to break. The next day, I gave it the once over twice. And I have been checking everyday since. I have yet to find the smallest dent. And the tonneau is fine too. NO TINFOIL HERE!!!!!
I have a manual with a V6 and I use it for towing. Its a big bargin unless you really want the bigger V8 and the higher truck payments and you may have to pull an airstream.
There seems to be a pattern here regarding your tastes! If I had not been accepted to college, I would have gone to NC State. If I did not want a QUALITY truck, I would have bought a Chevy.
I am in Georgia and cannot locate a Tundra V-6, 4x4, with 5-speed transmission. Is there such an animal or is it the typical "bait and switch" game dealer and manufacturers play?
Help! I had my heart set on a Tacoma and then along comes the Tundra. Now I'm confused on which way to go. I want to use the truck for commuting and occasional off-roading and pulling a 19ft boat. The Tacoma I was considering was the 6cyl, 4x4 5sp extended cab. The Tundra offers more room (not sure if it is 'a lot'), power. But my commuting involves city driving and parking. Therefore my dilema. I'm not sure I need all the extra room (kind of sounds like a Silverado vs Tundra discussion, doesn't it), but want to get enough truck for my 'haul'. Did many of you do the Tacoma/Tundra comparison. I realize because of this thread I am probably going to get answers biased towards big T, but would like to hear your thoughts.
I had a fully loaded 99 SR5 Tacoma for 10 mouth before I got my fully loaded 2000 SR5 Tundra. The Tacoma is a real good truck; it has the same V6 that you will get in the Tundra. My needs got bigger (a.k.a. family got bigger). I wonted the extra doors. The V8 & automatic & TRD makes it nice to off-roading and towing, but that takes more $$. If you are trying to save money go with a Tacoma. Ether one you can't go wrong.
I checked with a dealer in Memphis about ordering a Tundra to my specifications (using option codes from Carprices.com). He mentioned an option code RE for Revised Emissions (No Cost) verses the FE Federal Emissions and CA California Emissions listed on the Internet. Anyone know anything about RE Revised Emissions? The dealer indicated that it was less restrictive than FE or CA due to our region of the country. Any thoughts?
I had a 91 PU (pre-Tacoma). It was a great truck and I really didn't want to trade it in. In the 130K miles that I owned the truck I have only bought:
- 2.5 sets of tires - 1.5 sets of brakes - 1 set of shocks - oil, air cleaner, distributer cap per maint. - and a week before I traded it in one battery.
That's it! I traded it in for a 2000 Tundra because my family grew also. You can't go wrong. If you want a comuter go with a Tacoma. If you want a large truck go with the Tundra. I love the Tundra, but it doesn't get the gas mileage and it's harder to park in tight spaces (neither are a big deal to me).
If you have a 19' boat, you will really like the way the Tundra can tow. I could feel my 16' bass boat with my T100(sameV6 as Tacoma). The breaks are the best around on the Tundra. I can stop much quicker with my boat behind me now. I can also go 70mph up hill with a boat. I passed several Tacomas, 4runners, and yes ruboturd, even Chevys going up hill to Lake Tahoe the other day. Also, the Tacoma still has similar build quality to the old Toyota trucks. Check out those generic door panels, now look at the Tundras. They finnally did replace the cheap headliners and sun visors Japenese trucks are known for. Go for the Tundra, don't let the wife talk you into the Tacoma. You will wish you got it everytime you pass one if you don't. Buy it now!!!!!!
I almost bought the Tacoma. Thanks God I test drove the Tundra. The advantages of having the Tundra are:
1) Truck with the ride and feel of a luxury car 2) It has plenty of room for four people. I can't imagine myself in the Tacoma's cab for more than half-hour, and I'm 5'7". 3) The price is not much more, but you've got a much more truck in Tundra. 4) Everyone will love it, even the wife. 5) This 25K truck has the engine of the 55K Landcruiser in it. Think about it!! 6) Tundra is the perfect vehicle...perfect combination of power, comfort, utility, and the Toyota name behind it.
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For the Tundra Owners: Does anyone have the steel wheels and tires they want to sell for a reasonable price? Just the wheels would work. I want to put the snow tires on this Winter.
While it's reassuring that big brother Edmund is watching to make sure we engage in civil discourse is it necessary? I didn’t know children were a market for buying automobiles. What’s more, has anyone seen a post here that would even raise the hairless eyebrow of the most innocent child? Thought not. For-unadulterated, un-monitored discussions on the Tundra and no email address required without advertisements go to www.homejack.com/tundra It’s a gift from me to Tundra owners and wannabes and soon to be registered with popular search engines. Ruby baby is welcome too as no one else has amused me more.
Sorry Edmund’s, you ask too much for too little. Try making your message board thread able as its flat design really lacks organization.
The Tundra rules, dominates, puts to shame all other trucks. Especially GMC products. Good job jyarnold for offering an alternative to this obviosly slanted site. It seems the Tundra bashers can say anything they please and merideth looks the other way. If a Tundra owner fights fire with fire...well good old merideth sweeps in and puts us Tundra fans in our place. Where is he when lies, personal attacks and false rumors are being spread by the Tundra bashers?
You want to freeze a topic because the participants are heated up? Where in the user agreement does it say "heated or passionate discussions are not allowed"?
I found something you wrote in a different discussion, I'm going to post it and would appreciate your feedback.
-------- The basic principal of American Government is this....
"That government is best, which governs least."
For those of you who have forgotten, or never had you CIVICS classes, I'd suggest you revisit these fundamentals. ----------
With all due respect to you, as I realize you are just doing your job. You seem to contradict your own thoughts. This site is governed more than ANY site I've ever visited on the Internet. I'm not trying to request a "rule change", just wondering exactly what it is that "tics you"?
Nice work guys standing up to the tyranny (just joking...slightly).
You know, on all the Tundra topics I have been reading, the only times we Tundra people have to get "politically incorrect" is when these Chevy guys start spewing garbage and false stories. Most seem to be on the Tundra site because they are tired of all the Chevy sites and are jealous because there's another player in their sacred "big truck market". Maybe if they try to intimidate Toyota it will go away. My advice is to greatly improve your quality. In case you are unaware, the Japanese own alot in the U.S.; buildings, land and corporations.
Before you Chevy guys go off half-cocked; I'm not implying that Japan is taking over the U.S. But once a Japanese company sets it's sight on a target (market), they don't stop until they hit the bull's eye.
I'm interested in hearing some more about Tundra prices from those who have been shopping for one recently. I plan to begin the quest in the December - February time frame but can wait longer if there will still be a problem getting the price down more than a couple hundred from MSRP.
The free exchange of ideas and information without a governing body? It was a dream in the 60's, a reality in the 80's and now it's slipping into a dream again. Ah well, At least I now have my Tundra to get away from it all.
Scullary: I paid over MSRP based on the amount I was offered for my trade-in. Yea, I got ripped, always do but this one was worth it so far.
I am looking to buy a used pop-up over cab camper for my Tundra(SR5,V8,Assecc cab,TRD). With most campers you need a black piece of mettle with a hole in it, on the front part of the bed. It sets between the cab and the bed, bolted to the bed. And you use a chain from the hole to the camper to hold it down. My question is about the black piece of mettle. Dose it have a name? No really, is there something that has to be done to the black piece of mettle so that the back door dose not swings into it? Or is there a better way of holding the camper down?
They call that one a camper-cinch. Think them doors slapin that cinch be the least of your troubles if that camper be one of them over the cab ones. Them ones wieght alot, may be hard on the haul. Good luck on this one now!
I had the dealer install the factory hitch on my Limited.No problem. Watch out for pricing. My dealer wanted to charge me $500.00 for the hitch and wiring. Got the package for $374.00.
Your not the first one whose dealer not want to add that tow hitch on. Maybe them dealers know something here? Whats with them limited ones and the haul? Why are some dealers holding back on them hitches? We see a pattern here.
If I recall the statement from my dealer on why a hitch cannot be put on a LTD, it has to do with the gross weight, too much weight for the truck's catagory. After you purchase the vehicle, you can do anything you want with it, but the factory can't put the hitch on.
There is NO pattern here with the tow hitch on the Limited. You are the only one that sees a pattern, maybe you need to update your prescription glasses. It has to due with the EPA and the gross vehicle weight ratings on the Limited. As I understand it, owner of Limiteds can have the hitch installed by someone other than the dealer if they wish. Let's try not to indirectly blast the Tundra as you have done so many times in the past just because of some government regulation.
If you are really that unhappy with youe Chevy I am sure your local Toyota dealer will take it in trade for a Tundra!
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Been thinkin on that pop-up camper one. Buyin a used one might not be good in this case. This is what I have found now:
Them bed sizes on the big 3 extended cabs are all about this size (within 1/2 of inch of each other):
length = 78 in width = 50 in height = 19 in
Now that tindra has these sizes:
length = 76 in (this could cause trouble) width = 50 in height = 16 in (think this is trouble)
I think that the length and height make that camper to big for that tindra verses the big 3. You said you were lookin for the used camper, so that would mean an existing big 3 camper. I think you might have trouble fittin that big camper in that tindra bed. Looks like those tindras will need there own camper based on this size problem. To all those not wantin to hear the truth on this size, measure for your selfs. Good luck on findin that camper that works!
The lack of a factory tow hitch has nothing to do with weight classification for EPA. Think about it. Light trucks are up to what, 6600 GVWR? Tundra, the lightest full size truck has no problem satisfying that requirement, or they would not be able to ship Dodges, Fords and GMs with factory tow hitches either. Or maybe Toyota has certified Tundra as a "compact?"
You could do a measure on an S-10 bed and do a compare to that limited to see if they are close, I bet they are the same. If so, then a camper for that S-10 should fit that tindra well. You should have no trouble findin that used S-10 camper now.
The reason I suggest that S-10 is because TT did made the compare between that S-10 and tindra. Here is what they tell:
A look at the Tundra’s dimensions indicates that, while it sits on a 6.5-inch longer wheelbase and stretches out 8.4 inches longer than the "mid-size" T100 it replaces, it’s closer in size to the Chevrolet S10 than a Chevrolet Silverado. Toyota calls the Tundra a full-size and wants you to think of it as full-size, but it’s really a slightly larger mid-size pickup.
Maybe that tindra was classified as the "compact", this would explain mystery of hitch. Plus that tindra size,dimensions,wiegth, and magazine compare all point towards a littler one such as that S-10.
With the bed size will NOT matter, it fits just fine. And it will do it with camper and pulling a trailer. So go some where other people want to lisen to what you have to say.
Franklin tells that the bed depth of that S-10 be 17in so I think that S-10 camper be to big for that tindra now. Guess those tindras have to have the custom one made, since the compact one is to big for that bed too. The problem is that tindra bed is stumpy on that depth. Good luck on this camper size troubles.
Stir up trouble you say? I just state a few facts on: Camper Bed size Truck size Truck wieght
This is called the compare around these parts, not stir'en up the trouble. As for tindra, this just another say for tundra, kinda like sayin Chevy instead of Chevrolet, eh? I have NEVER said any thing bad about any person on this topic here, and never will, that is what trouble is, not disscussing facts, opinions, and tells on TRUCKS. This board for opinions on tindra TRUCKS, and that is what I give the tell on. I think it is good that not all opinions the same, thats what makes this topic worthy. As for truck name, you call it what you like, I do the same, no offense meant to any owners, on this, or any other tell. What say on this?
Tindra and Tundra are NOT the same as Chevy and Chevrolet. I don't know where you get that from. I think you made up that name or maybe you always seems to strike the I key when you want to use the U key, but I doubt it.
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245/70R16: 29.4" High : 92.4" circumference
265/70R16: 30.5" High : 95.8" circumference
3.7% increase.
to have the ride in it now and again.
P.S. The State comment was a joke.
4x4, with 5-speed transmission. Is there such an
animal or is it the typical "bait and switch"
game dealer and manufacturers play?
I want to use the truck for commuting and occasional off-roading and pulling a 19ft boat.
The Tacoma I was considering was the 6cyl, 4x4 5sp extended cab.
The Tundra offers more room (not sure if it is 'a lot'), power.
But my commuting involves city driving and parking.
Therefore my dilema. I'm not sure I need all the extra room (kind of sounds like a Silverado vs Tundra discussion, doesn't it), but want to get enough truck for my 'haul'.
Did many of you do the Tacoma/Tundra comparison. I realize because of this thread I am probably going to get answers biased towards big T, but would like to hear your thoughts.
- 2.5 sets of tires
- 1.5 sets of brakes
- 1 set of shocks
- oil, air cleaner, distributer cap per maint.
- and a week before I traded it in one battery.
That's it!
I traded it in for a 2000 Tundra because my family grew also. You can't go wrong. If you want a comuter go with a Tacoma. If you want a large truck go with the Tundra. I love the Tundra, but it doesn't get the gas mileage and it's harder to park in tight spaces (neither are a big deal to me).
1) Truck with the ride and feel of a luxury car
2) It has plenty of room for four people. I can't imagine myself in the Tacoma's cab for more than half-hour, and I'm 5'7".
3) The price is not much more, but you've got a much more truck in Tundra.
4) Everyone will love it, even the wife.
5) This 25K truck has the engine of the 55K Landcruiser in it. Think about it!!
6) Tundra is the perfect vehicle...perfect combination of power, comfort, utility, and the Toyota name behind it.
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Edmunds is a family oriented site. Personal attacks will not be tolerated. Please review your Participants Agreement. Civil discourse only. What you say is your business. How you say it is ours. Edmunds does not care to present a target for NetNanny, Cyber Patrol or others of that ilk. We will enforce our standards.
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Thanks,
Sorry Edmund’s, you ask too much for too little. Try making your message board thread able as its flat design really lacks organization.
PS My Tindra LTD just came in, off to git it!!!
seriously considering freezing this topic for a week until you ALL cool down and straighten up.
Just froze one! And for just these reason's!
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SUV, Pickups, & Aftermarket and Accessories Host
--------
The basic principal of American Government is
this....
"That government is best, which governs least."
For those of you who have forgotten, or never had
you CIVICS classes, I'd suggest you revisit these
fundamentals.
----------
With all due respect to you, as I realize you are just doing your job. You seem to contradict your own thoughts. This site is governed more than ANY site I've ever visited on the Internet. I'm not trying to request a "rule change", just wondering exactly what it is that "tics you"?
You know, on all the Tundra topics I have been reading, the only times we Tundra people have to get "politically incorrect" is when these Chevy guys start spewing garbage and false stories. Most seem to be on the Tundra site because they are tired of all the Chevy sites and are jealous because there's another player in their sacred "big truck market". Maybe if they try to intimidate Toyota it will go away. My advice is to greatly improve your quality. In case you are unaware, the Japanese own alot in the U.S.; buildings, land and corporations.
Before you Chevy guys go off half-cocked; I'm not implying that Japan is taking over the U.S. But once a Japanese company sets it's sight on a target (market), they don't stop until they hit the bull's eye.
Any news out there?
Scullary: I paid over MSRP based on the amount I was offered for my trade-in. Yea, I got ripped, always do but this one was worth it so far.
doors slapin that cinch be the least of your
troubles if that camper be one of them over the
cab ones. Them ones wieght alot, may be hard
on the haul. Good luck on this one now!
Mine in 2 months and a half has 5600.
Watch out for pricing. My dealer wanted to charge
me $500.00 for the hitch and wiring. Got the package for $374.00.
add that tow hitch on. Maybe them dealers know
something here? Whats with them limited ones and
the haul? Why are some dealers holding back on
them hitches? We see a pattern here.
There is NO pattern here with the tow hitch on the Limited. You are the only one that sees a pattern, maybe you need to update your prescription glasses. It has to due with the EPA and the gross vehicle weight ratings on the Limited. As I understand it, owner of Limiteds can have the hitch installed by someone other than the dealer if they wish. Let's try not to indirectly blast the Tundra as you have done so many times in the past just because of some government regulation.
If you are really that unhappy with youe Chevy I am sure your local Toyota dealer will take it in trade for a Tundra!
Edmunds has made a considerable investment into a townhall that is to be a meeting place for all - a sort of "nonalcoholic sports bar" in my personal analogy. Passion in support of your "favorite" is acceptable - being mean, uncivil, and rude is not.
Some children can be spoken to sternly and will learn from it, some can not. The latter become "experiencial learners" as adults. When direction fails, direct intervention is necessary. Our conferences and topics are an EXCELLENT mechanism for exchanging information. And we (Edmunds) intend to KEEP IT THAT WAY.
It is unfortunate that the innocent must be deprived in order to discipline the guilty, but there no help for it. This is not a chat room. Flame wars will not be tolerated!
Edmunds does not care about your race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or economic status. Edmunds is the place for the "automotive enthuisiast" irrespective of the individuals other defining characteristics
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SUV, Pickups, & Aftermarket and Accessories Host
used one might not be good in this case. This is
what I have found now:
Them bed sizes on the big 3 extended cabs are all about this size (within 1/2 of inch of each other):
length = 78 in
width = 50 in
height = 19 in
Now that tindra has these sizes:
length = 76 in (this could cause trouble)
width = 50 in
height = 16 in (think this is trouble)
I think that the length and height make that
camper to big for that tindra verses the big 3.
You said you were lookin for the used camper,
so that would mean an existing big 3 camper.
I think you might have trouble fittin that big
camper in that tindra bed. Looks like those
tindras will need there own camper based on this size problem. To all those not wantin to hear the truth on this size, measure for your selfs. Good luck on findin that camper that works!
Big 3 avg: 4700 (all within 40 pounds)
Tindra - 4480
The max trailer rating on them limited ones is
1000 pounds less that them big 3.
7200 vs 8200.
Got this information from Truck Trends, these are
there facts not mine.
This still not explain that hitch troubles for
them limiteds.
compare to that limited to see if they are close,
I bet they are the same. If so, then a camper
for that S-10 should fit that tindra well. You
should have no trouble findin that used S-10
camper now.
The reason I suggest that S-10 is because TT did
made the compare between that S-10 and tindra.
Here is what they tell:
A look at the Tundra’s dimensions indicates that,
while it sits on a 6.5-inch longer wheelbase and
stretches out 8.4 inches longer than the
"mid-size" T100 it replaces, it’s closer in size to the Chevrolet S10 than a Chevrolet Silverado. Toyota calls the Tundra a full-size and wants you to think of it as full-size, but it’s really a
slightly larger mid-size pickup.
Maybe that tindra was classified as the "compact",
this would explain mystery of hitch. Plus that
tindra size,dimensions,wiegth, and magazine compare all point towards a littler one such
as that S-10.
With the bed size will NOT matter, it fits just fine. And it will do it with camper and pulling a trailer. So go some where other people want to lisen to what you have to say.
17in so I think that S-10 camper be to big for
that tindra now. Guess those tindras have to
have the custom one made, since the compact one
is to big for that bed too. The problem is that
tindra bed is stumpy on that depth. Good luck on this camper size troubles.
Get the name of the truck correct, it is a Tundra. You know what you are saying, you are
just trying to stir up trouble.
facts on:
Camper
Bed size
Truck size
Truck wieght
This is called the compare around these parts, not
stir'en up the trouble. As for tindra, this just
another say for tundra, kinda like sayin Chevy
instead of Chevrolet, eh? I have NEVER said any
thing bad about any person on this topic here, and never will, that is what trouble is, not
disscussing facts, opinions, and tells on TRUCKS. This board for opinions on tindra TRUCKS, and that is what I give the tell on. I think it is good that not all opinions the same, thats what makes this topic worthy. As for truck name, you call it what you like, I do the same, no offense meant to any owners, on this, or any other tell. What say on this?
Get the name of the truck correct, it is a Tundra. You know what you are saying, you are
just trying to stir up trouble.
and Chevrolet. I don't know where you get that
from. I think you made up that name or maybe you always seems to strike the I key when you want to use the U key, but I doubt it.
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