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2012 Camry Hybrid LE
Clearwater blue metallic (my FAVORITE!)
Grey fabric interior
Rear spoiler
Carpeted floor mats
$25,524 (including fees)
-$1,000 rebate for Black Friday weekend (ALL dealers should have this now through Monday since its through TFS on ALL cars)
So $24,524 + tax
.9% for 60 months
Smooth transaction. Only haggling was about trade in.
I feel I got a really great deal!
I am in CA and got following truecar quote. Do you think it a good price? Really don't have much time on shopping around recently.
When I bring this quote to the truecar dealer, is it smooth to get it as quoted? or i have to prepare for a fight?
I assume that $19,560 plus the tax/registeration would be the OTD, right?
thanks
Car： 4dr Sedan I4 Auto LE
Configured MSRP： $23,395
This is your Estimated Savings -$3,835 （16.39% off MSRP）
This is your Estimated TrueCar Price $19,560
（Does not include dealer documentation,administrative or processing fee）
Dealer installed options +
Documentation Fee (includes administrative and processing fees) +$80
Tax, title & registration +
Total Price
2012 camry
4dr Sedan I4 Auto LE
Preferred Exterior Color Classic Silver Metallic
Preferred Interior Color Ivory
Optional Features
Ivory, Fabric Seat Trim (FD00)
Standard Paint (-PAINT)
Classic Silver Metallic (1F7)
I currently am from mid-Illinois, and I will be traveling to Chicago to buy my FIRST car ever! Im really excited, but I don't want to get ripped off. Right now, I have an offer for a base Camry for $20,387 + fees (just standard everything). How fair is this price. I have seen some people post things as low as 19~. I also qualify for the new graduate programs (1k rebate and 0% for 60 months). How should I go about negotiating this price since I am traveling up to chicago in 2 weeks with the intent to buy. Dealers know that when I show up, I will be purchasing, and Im not too likely to walk away. I was thinking of bringing a few price quotes form different dealerships as leverage.
Thanks
Looking to get a clearance deal on:
2012 Camry XLE
v-4
Auto XMN
Preferably with the following factory installed packages:
Convenience Pacakge
Leather Package (requires Convenience package)
And w/ dealer installed option:
Remote starter
Also, please confirm that the donut, the tool pack for changing a tire come with the vehicle.
I'm willing to drive 150 miles out of NJ if the deal is compelling. So PA, NJ and MD are in play.
Many thanks!
-EZ Wally
I was traveling out of town and rented a 2012 LE. After 3 days I was not impressed
by the experience. You have said you would not buy a 2012 Camry LE but prefer
the Camry SE.
Is the handling and performance suspension of the SE that notably different?
Do you think their is a difference in the seat comfort when comparing the SE and LE?
The next rental car we rented was a 2012 VW Passat. We could not not believe the difference. What a fun car to drive. Is the SE similar to driving a VW passat?
Also, what dealer in CA has a 2012 LE for $18,999?
it is interesting to see a $1000 rebate in northern Ca. but not here in So. CA.
Great to see yo back in the forum.
coches1
I don't remember what the dealer is, but have seen $18,999 come up several times. There will be a lot of deals this Friday as it's the end of the month and weekend sales will come out too.
Have you purchased a new Camry yet?
I was traveling and rented a 2012 Camry LE. After driving the car for 4 days it seemed very average. Although for under $20k you have to be reasonable. The
second part of the trip we rented a 2012 VW Passat. WOW! It is fun to drive but
did not realize until later it has 5 cylinders.
The plan was to take advantage of the $1,000 rebate in No. Ca. Our plans changed and we returned to So. Ca. without purchasing the car.
What is your explanation for Toyota waiting so long for the 2013 Camry? Any major changes for the 2013?
It seems the $1,000 rebate will be offered in So. Ca. after the current offers expire on 12/3/12. I am interested in your thoughts about this.
The best price in the Bay Area/ Sacramento area was $19,400 + fees.
thanks again for all your great advice and research
coches1
Is this a 4 cylinder regular SE? $19,919 should be possible on that one (including destination charge, but adding the other fees). This is according to Consumer Reports, and would be THE outstanding price. This is an excellent time of year to buy (I've always wanted to buy a car in December). I'm not sure they won't offer some rebate after Dec 3rd when their special financing of .9% ends.
By the way, I own a 2002 SE (manual shift, which I preferred), and it has been outstanding. Finally had to put a starter into it at 142,000 miles (the only thing I've done - did it myself, as it was right there at the front and easy to replace). I'm at a mileage where the alternator should go sometime, but everything is running incredibly well and always has. Ridiculously reliable car - and the SE has been fun to drive. I am now hoping to buy an XLE Hybrid any moment, though I want to see what they do to the 2013, if anything. I expect at least a color change... (if not something to be more standard in the radio/stereo department). Most of the upper level radio options are just not necessary, but the 2nd one up from the bottom is good, and I'm wondering if they might make that standard with the competition from the Accord, etc. Toyota is a better can than Honda from my research (for one thing the brakes and rotors they put in their cars don't hold up for the same amount of time).
I'm having a difficult time leaving Toyota. I've been looking at the Subaru Outback as a really versatile and beautiful car, but I'm a bit chicken (I prefer a 5 door, more rugged car to a sedan).
The 2012 Camry is apparently still in production in December, but the 2013's will be starting to be produced alongside the 2012's at the same time in December. If I go for one, it will be the Hybrid XLE. In California they offer a 150,000 mile warranty on the battery (80,000 in the rest of the country), and that is excellent. The rest of the car is known to be reliable, so with any worries about batteries eliminated, I'm very tempted to go for the great gas mileage. I rented a Hybrid XLE for a road trip (from Toyota) and it was a great car to drive (even though I personally like a a manual shift car with torque and sport suspension). It is a big step for me to move to an automatic, but I was not at all unhappy with that car.
Car has just about everything: Nav, Backup camera, Bluetooth, Smart key system, Homelink, leather, heated front seats, and entune system.
I like the look for the Camry. I've been a Honda buyer but this new style is very nice.
Seem like a reasonable deal for me. For those interested, I got a quote for the following as well.
2012 Camry LE Silver V4 = $21,600 + fee
2012 Camry LE Red or White V4 = $19,900 + fee
2012 Camry XLE Silver V6 = $31,700 + fee
This is just a pet peeve of mine, but there is no such thing as a "V4". The 4 cylinder engine is an "I4", as in "in-line 4 cylinder." The 6 cylinder engine is a V6, because of the shape of the cylinders - there are 3 on one side, 3 on the other, and they are mounted in a "V" shape, with the bottom of the V the crankshaft. So you have an "I4".
Great car, great choice!!
msrp: 24750
+ TT L
otd: 22000
For a Le w/o sunroof, the best price we receive otd is 21,200.
Remember, dont let them talk you into adding freight (790). This charge has already been included on the sticker bottom price.
Here is my story.
I just bought a 2012 SE with Power seat (PD) and floor mats (haven't see any one without it even though it added $225 to the total price, which I think is ridiculous) last night.
I opt for the 0% APR for 60%, so couldn't get the $1,000 rebate. Sale price is $21,377 + TTL.
Looks like bendakaya did better than me by $233, but the dealership is local, and I feel the price is reasonable enough.
I obtained quotes from a dozen of Toyota dealers in the south bay area plus Toyota at Elk Grove in Sac area. The best quote I got from bay area is $21,588, and used that to push down the one with the right color to $21,488. Then Toyota of Elk grove came with the lowest price of $21,288. I showed that to Piercey Toyota, and split the difference with them.
Overall, I feel the internet and flee department is much easier and efficient to deal with once you are settled on the model and color you want. I did give the retail sales person at another dealership a fair shot while we went and test drove, but he won't even budge below the invoice, even after I told him all the dealers are selling these cars about $1,000 under invoice not considering the rebate ($2,000 below if you use the rebate instead of 0% finanace).
Hope this helps.
Happy holiday to everyone.
http://www.voiceofthedriver.com/Regionalwise?%20zip_code=37129
I live in NJ and I want to buy a new 2012 Camry SE. I want to pay $23,000 out the door (including all taxes and fees) and do not have a trade in vehicle. I also do not qualify for any incentives except the 0% financing. Am I asking for to little or to much or what should be the price I tell a dealer I want to pay out the door? Can somebody help me with this.
Thanks in advance!
I plan to finance though Toyota Financial Services with 0% APR (probably 48 months). Do I do this with dealer or through Toyota Financial Services website?
This is my first time buying, help will be most appreciated.
I got $21800 OTD for Camry LE + power seats with 0% financing for 60 months .
$22186 YOUR SALES PRICE
it doesn't include tax and fee, the total is 24.3k. Can you share your dealer contact to me~
FACTORY REBATE FOR $1000.00 UNTIL 12.7.13 ON ALL 2012 GAS
CAMRYS IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
The following dealers seem to offer the lowest prices in the Sac. and
SF bay area.
Hanlees Richmond and Davis locations
Elk Grove
Folsom Lake
Roseville
Maita
Piercey
All these dealers have print ads or special prices on their Camrys.
Look in the Sacrament Bee car section for exact prices. It is
interesting to find the same prices at different dealers.
Also, each dealer website has a SPECIAL TAB offering low prices.
The special price for LE's is $19,000-$20,000. Hanlees offered a
LE for $18,999....good luck.
The SE sells for $500-$1,000 more even though the dealer cost is
only slightly higher.
Their are no changes on the 2013 except a higher price according to the dealers.
The new Accord, Altima, and Sonata are very slowly taking market share from
the camry. Although, Camry sales are strong. Go to AUTO NEWS to obtain
interesting information about the current auto market.
coches1
I plan to finance though Toyota Financial Services with 0% APR (probably 60 months). Do I do this with dealer or through Toyota Financial Services website?
This is my first time buying, help will be most appreciated.
I have been looking at the 2012 SE with NAV and power seats and got a couple of offers for around 21,700 after 1,000 rebate.
Based on some other postings of the SE with PD but no NAV (and no rebate) I was thinking that 21,000 plus tax and lic would be a good price for the SE with the NAV. Is that realistic?
Hard to tell what deals people are really getting with the OTD prices. Taxes, etc are different in different states...oh well.
MSRP: 25502
Bought at 19880 (with 1000 graduate rebate and 1000 loyalty rebate for NE region)
OTD 21600 (MA)
Not sure if I got a good price but hope this would help someone.
btw, how much would sunroof really be worth paying for?
You absolutely cannot bargain unless you know the exact real price that the car costs them, AND the cost of every option that you add on (or is on a car) - wholesale and retail. You also want to know the dealer holdback. It is important to note that the destination charge is included in these prices (don't let anyone add this on a 2nd time).
I am myself in the middle of looking at the Camry Hybrid XLE, so I've been watching this (though I may go with the redesigned RAV4 that is out in January). There are already 15 Hybrid Camry 2013 models in in California, so the 2013's are almost here, but the prices for 2013 have not yet been posted in places that do us, the customers, any good. Yet!! Dec 27th.
You can tell where various colors and options for the model that you are looking for are located by going to Cars.com or Edmunds.com and doing a new car search, putting in the zip code that suits you (you can put in a particular dealer's zip code if you want to see what they really have - or manipulate it by area; dealer sites don't often list all the specifics that you want to know). You can't go in to deal on a car if they don't have any you actually want, or don't have enough numbers. I don't know what I think of them trading models to get your color and options; they must owe the other dealer something, or at the least I expect they won't be selling such a car at rock bottom price.
I'm in CA and I shop a many hundred mile range (there is no reason to stick to your local dealer, and especially not a small dealer). You can also buy through a place like CarsDirect.com, which has a very reasonable (not rock bottom) price and they will get you exactly the car you want with the color and options you want, and you go pick it up at a designated major dealership - and you're done in less than an hour. I bought my Camry through them, and it was a very wonderful experience - the best. If you consider the number of weeks or months it can take to get the car you want, and the haggling with people you don't want to haggle with - it can be worth it.
The following is another EXCELLENT method to buy a car for those willing to do a little work:
http://www.realcartips.com/guide/checklist.shtml
I do not think it is worth talking to salespeople - basically ever. If you want to go in and test drive a car, don't take a single thing with you except your driver's license. They practice their craft every single day and you/we are at a distinct disadvantage when dealing with them, no matter what.
I own a Camry SE (manual shift - which I actively wanted) with leather and XLE wheels that has been the best, incredible car I have ever had. It was 142,000 mi before I had to do anything, and then I put in a starter myself (I'm female) right there at the front - easy access - little work. I love manual transmissions and a little more sportier suspension, but they don't make manuals any more.
One can also buy a car with cloth seats (I don't know the LE - but say the XLE without all the packages and options, which is a very good deal by the way) and then put their own leather into it. I did that with my Camry SE and it is beautiful, even 9 years later. We have a place in CA that does the leather for many of the dealerships here. Buying the car with factory leather (which is no higher quality, and lesser possibly) normally forces you to buy all sorts of packages to get the leather, and that can drive the price of the car up hugely. I'm doing that on the Camry Hybrid XLE - buying it with nothing added and adding my own leather - and it will be quite a luxury car when that is done.
Lepton
You wrote " you cannot bargain unless you know the exact price
the dealer paid for the car"
This is the paradox of the car business. It is impossible to know the
exact cost the dealer pays the manufacturer. The dealer obtains many
rebates from the factory. The following are examples:
monthly rewards
year end rebates
extra $ for cars sold in a time period
ordering more of certain models
rebate for advertising
The list is endless. Only a few persons at a dealership know
the exact amount. This is what they want. Even the sales
managers do not realize their is hundreds more in profit.
Invoice price is worthless and only a basic tool.
It's a game they have won to show the prospective
buyer how they are losing money.
Here is an interesting observation. The 1000$ rebate is only for the
Northern CA region. You cannot obtain it for the Southern CA area.
Know why? I think it is because this amount is given to the So. CA
dealers to negotiate purchases.
It is so entertaining learning about this business. The more you know, the more
you realize what you do not know about the exact cost of the vehicle.
coches1
I mainly take the invoice price (which, again, includes destination charge - some of them will try to add this on a 2nd time at the end) and deduct the holdback, and known incentives (available from certain services and sites), and leave it at that. I figure they do have operating expenses and salaries, so BECAUSE it is such a mystery, I'm happy to get to the area where the holdback is also taken into account.
Where they seem to get us these days is in people's confusion. Few individuals will know what every option or package on a car actually costs, and they won't be able to get a feeling for what they should be paying if they are walking around looking at cars (especially with a sales person in their presence). It sort of has to be diced and sorted on paper when alone. The new Camry options for a sound system are utterly confusing, and the top end can add over $3,000 to a car if I remember correctly. I'm detail oriented with these sorts of things, and it took me considerable effort to sort that out.
If they get a bonus for selling so many Camrys by the end of the month, so be it. I don't think I have to cut into THAT price - but I would like to know what all the various things are (you have a good list there).
Charging us for the advertising fee I am absolutely opposed to (there are some good services that actually put that price in there as well - and no can do).
Lepton
Wheel locks are $40/$67 (wholesale/retail). Carpeted floor mats are $140/$225 (steep price on such a basic thing - I will buy all-weather mats instead at an outside place).
Dealer holdback is $464.
$21,486 would be the build and buy price on that one, so yes, $20,100 is very good.
Lepton
Also. This deal was going to be with 0% apr for 60 months. He said there were no rebates or cash bonuses or discounts. This was it.
This car I'm talking about is the base SE 4 cylinder with power seats, color is black. Is the price they gave me a good price or can I get something better in Southern California?
I just came back from local dealership in Long Island, NY. They marked us down for a 2012 SE with Navigation, Sunroof for 23500 and/or 25860 out the door. Is that a good price?
Some dealer give 23,500. How do I do to get the best price?
Buy at reputable dealers such as Longo Toyota, Huntington Beach Toyota, Power Toyota of Irvine, or South Coast Toyota.
I leased a toyota camry in spetember 2012. Pretty happy with the car so far.
I dont drive much so lease made sense. Toyota is giving very good lease options. FYI I haggled a lot (initial quote they gave was like 200per month with 2500 down)
I got the lease for 240$ per month (including taxes) with 24000 miles for 2 years (0 down payment).
All title/registration fees was paid by the dealer. So I just paid 240$ and took the car home. PAid 20 buck for getting the registration and thats it. I live in Atlanta.
Now, I would be paying about 6000 $ (there is 350$ fees that toyota charge at the end of the lease) which I think is a decent deal.
Thoughts on this?
2012 TOYOTA CAMRY SE (4Cyl)
24 months, 12k miles per year.
GREY TWO-TONE FABRIC INTERIOR
OPTIONS:FE, PD, CF
$24,680.00 MSRP
$22,929.72 DEALER INVOICE COST
$21,920.72 TOYOTA INTERNET SALE PRICE
$0.00 DOWN 24 MONTH LEASE BELOW:
$315.50 x 23 REMAINING MONTHS WITH $0.00 DUE AT SIGNING
FEES BELOW ARE INCLUDED IN THE LEASE:
$338.00 DMV FEES (DOC, REGISTRATION, TITLE, & LICENSE FEES)
$650.00 TOYOTA LEASE ACQUISITION FEE
$538.28 SALES TAX
.00001% MONEY FACTOR
$16,200.00 RESIDUAL
Sales tax in this area is 7.75%
Not included above, but are options
Gap: $395
Damage Waiver: $495
I’m still waiting to hear back on going to 15k per year.
Thoughts on above?