You made personal comments about someone i.e "selfish" "you're unbelievable! ",... and the general tone (attacking) of your post was a bit offensive. I think you could have gotten your point across a bit more diplomatically... IMO.
Today I'm sitting in my school bus waiting to make a right turn in a line of about 8 cars. Just as the light turns green and traffic starts moving a large car shoots down the shoulder and makes a right turn, almost hitting the car in front of me who was also turning right.
What is it about a shoulder or break-down lane that some folks just can't resist?
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Who the heck was Jane Adams and who responsible for renaming?
As another poster mentioned she was involved in the settlement house movement (offering social services targeted towards urban poor). But she did not found the US settlement house movement, she did start up Hull house which became the model of settlement houses world wide. Ms. Addams (a distant relative of Charles Addams creator of "The Addams Family) was a resident of Chicago and Hull house is in Chicago. Hence the naming of the Northwest Tollway (old name) to the Jane Addams Memorial Tollway.
Amount of entrances on Northwest much less than free interstates, so not as much of a hassle with cars entering from ramps onto right lane.
Its been a while since I have been on that road. I was more thinking the Chicago area expressways which do have more frequent access and egress.
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Will they be naming an expressway after the first woman to run for the presidency in the primary? She's a Chicago girl, after all?
That would be Carol Moseley Braun, first African American woman Senator from the State of Illinois. She served in 90's and supported Clinton on NAFTA. She later was appointed Ambassador to New Zealand.
She ran in Democrat race for nomination in 2004 presidential contest alongside Kerry, Edward, Sharpton, Kucinich and appeared in debates. She dropped out of race just before Iowa Caucuses.
Braun Tollway does not have good sound as does not Jane Adams Tollway.
I was thinking the "Hillary Rodman Clinton Tollroad". Tollroad seems more appropriate than Freeway in her case!
You mean "Rodham" not "Rodman". Rodman was Dennis Rodman, the eclectic basketball player of the Championship Bulls Teams.
Hillary Rodham Clinton Tollroad name would be bad in that it would cause more drivers to act inconsiderately. Knowing they were on a road by that name, they would "subconciously" do things that they might not otherwise thinking that they could get away with it. Such as: intimidation in the left lane, flagrant speeding, continuous lane changing and lieing to police officer when pulled over.
Jimmy Carter Tollroad would be better in honoring a US President who also won the Nobel Peace Prize. Drivers likely would be more civil and not inconsiderate. Drivers would also remember Carter's advocacy for peace and conservation and would be calm, would slow their pace and conserve fuel.
I saw the mention of the Northwest Tollway (near Chicago) in a later post, but let me echo the sentiment about the 3+ lane interstates.
I grew up in northwest Indiana, where I-94 (the Frank Borman Expressway) was 3 lanes each way at the time. There's an exit just about every mile from I-65 to beyond the Illinois line, and in the Chicago area the exit is almost *always* on the right.
Dad told me that in that situation, the right lane is for entering and preparing to exit... the center lane is for driving... and the left lane is for passing. It made good sense to me, and I do my damnedest to abide by that still.
I think that in the States, lane discipline has become a casualty of artificially low speed limits... and now lack of lane discipline is a major reason they can't be raised much without compromising safety. :mad:
I think the answer is in your response; to put the two together, higher speed limits and actually enforce keep right except to pass.
Texas Interstate 40 has two lanes each way and indeed have signs and enforcement that say: left lane passing only. The speed limit 3 years ago was 80 mpg.
Jimmy Carter Tollroad would be better in honoring a US President
Well they do have the Kennedy Expressway and the Reagan Memorial tollway/highway (two thirds is a tollway one third a freeway).
Back on topic, I had to near misses they other day as two people within a minute of each other tried to merge into my lane as i was next to them. One even did it right after making a left turn (which he really shouldn't have done since I was on the road he was turning onto). :sick:
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For the forum, what is the speed limits in other states along the interstate? I hear some up North have limits in the 70s. Others like in Ca have 65 to 70 max.
Just asking, due to my wife and myself will be traveling to Yellowstone then to Ill to see our son's family this october.
Hope all had an exellent 4th and hope all of us stayed safe.
Here's the best link I know of for speed limits by state.
BTW, in Texas according to this link and news accounts I have read, parts of I-10 and I-20 in the western part of the state have limits of 80 mph. As far as I know, I-40 has a maximum limit of 75 mph in Texas.
One inaccuracy that I'm aware of personally in the link (at least as of March 2007): "other roads" (2-lane highways) in Arizona have maximum limits of 65 mph, not 55 mph. However, in the Navajo Nation in the northeast part of the state, most 2-lane roads (other than US-numbered highways) are posted no higher than 55 mph.
Good luck on your trip! I'd like to be doing the same thing.
I got passed on I5 today south of Tacoma by some inbred in a big late 90s Dodge truck towing a poorly mounted boat on an old trailer, going about 80 in a 60. He was all over the road, not a speedtrap in sight.
I rarely hit 70 on my drive,and coaxed 25mpg out of the big V8 on this latest trip. Not too shabby.
And I bet he was traveling the inside of three lanes where he is not supposed to be and his speed limit is 60. If you tow anything in Washington you are not to be in the inside of three lanes. Another law never enforced.
I-90 in Washington is predominantly 70, 60 through Spokane and once you get close to Seattle. Snoqualmie Pass is 60 too, but they can slow you way down in the winter as conditions warrant.
Between 4th of July Pass & Wallace, Idaho, I-90 is posted at 75. That's a fun drive!
I think even being near a driver going that fast, and pulling a boat is scary. I was driving my private vehcile and I observed an accident on I 80 near Vallejo that seemed in slow motion as the driver lost control of his car and his boat went sideways off the tralier, and slowly grinded to a halt across the 1 and 2 lanes. Amazingly no other car was involved.
Thanks to all for the info on highways and speed limits.
I once saw a boat depart from its trailer, too. Another idiot with a big truck and a small brain was towing a relatively large boat on a twisty road (the dangerous two-lane road going to Ocean Shores, WA, if anyone knows it) - he took a corner too fast, fishtailed with the trailer, the boat broke free, and it skidded for what seemed like a couple hundred yards. It left a trail of debris. I hope that cost him.
It baffles me how careless folks that either tow or carry loads in pick up trucks, etc, really are!!! My daughter experienced a deep tragic and senseless loss of a college friend, who was her former roommate. On the 101 Highway heading into down town Santa Barbara, early morning, her friend was behind a loaded tractor trailer rig, when part or all of his load (I didn't hear the absolutely gory details) landed on her hood crushing her inside her car. She passed away at the scene, I was told.
Wise up folks !! She was the promising pre-med student who will not be a whole lot of people's doctor!!!
Amen to that. Two of my friends have dropped boats on the street - just dumb. Semis usually are ok about securing their loads though - it's the utility trailers that really get my attention (Utility Trailers are Dangerous). I really think that you should have to get a towing designation on your driver's license in order to tow stuff.
Since I've cartopped canoes for years, I always notice how people tie their boats down. You want to avoid most of those guys too - canoes and kayaks need to be secured across the hulls to the roof racks and the front and rear painters/lines need to be tied off to the car somehow (so if the racks fail, and they do now and then, the lines will keep the boats with the car).
Kayakers are especially lax about tossing little boats on their car and "lashing" them down with old bicycle innertubes across the hulls with nothing more. I know a few guys who've lost their boats this way too.
Ladders on roofs are another one to watch out for.
In WA state over the past few years several people have been killed and severely injured due to lazy negligent people not securing their loads to their vehicles. You can see some scary stuff in the less developed areas on the I-5 corridor.
I remember when I was a kid, I was riding in a car with my uncle driving, and we were behind a truck loaded up with boxes. The truck somehow abruptly corrected itself or changed directions, and the boxes started hitting the road. They were filled with empty glass bottles. I remember we had no choice but to hit what had fallen - amazingly we didn't get a flat tire.
I once knew someone who once dropped of all things an outhouse onto the road from his truck. Yep he got himself an outhouse and was transporting it back to his farm (was recreating a small 1880's western town on it) when one of the ropes he used to secure it broke and he fell off his trailer.
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So I know that this isn't "on the road", but it does involve a driver and a vehicle and he was "inconsiderate" in my mind.
I decided to hit the drive-thru of a local Arches today because I didn't want to take the time to go inside and then get back in. I knew it wouldn't really matter because the local Arches around here are notoriously slow anyway, but today was really bad. I pulled in and I was car #4 behind a Suburban, a Honda and a Toyota. I didn't think much of it, but then after a few minutes, I realized I hadn't moved. I looked down at the clock and realized I had been in line for almost 5 minutes and I had yet to order. The Suburban in front was still ordering. Then he finally finished and pulled forward to pay. There was enough room between the pay window and the Honda to pull forward and order. It took all of about 30 seconds for him to order and pull behind the Surburban. The the Toyota pulled forward to order. But because Mr Suburban was still at the pay window, Toyota didn't order. I wasn't able to see much, but I could see that this wasn't a normal transaction as I saw the order taker stick his head out several times and exchange stuff with the Driver.
This took several minutes and finally he pulled forward to the pick-up window. The Toyota ordered and again it took all of about 30 seconds to order. He pulled forward and by then Honda had paid and then while Toyota was paying I was able to order. So all this was going along smoothly, except for Suburban, which by now I had realized was the big hold up. I pulled forward to pay, but couldn't because Suburban was still at the pickup window. 15 minutes had passed by now. There were probably 5 or 6 cars behind me now still waiting to order. I watched Surburban at the front winodw and noticed probably 5 or 6 bags of food go through, and then a couple go back for whatever reason. Then the drink chain started. Againd SEVERAL drinks. I actually lost count, but it was at least 6 or 7 I think. Then more bags of food. I was floored. Who in thier right mind goes through the drive through and orders THAT much stuff. Granted he was in a Suburban it could carry 8 people, but the amount of food I saw pass through would feed more than even that Suburban could hold.
Around the time that the drinks started passing through all the cars behind me except one had backed out and left. The one directly behind me had already ordered, but I could tell they were about to cut and run. I still hadn't paid and I was also ready to cut and run, but a morbid part of me wanted to see how long this whole process would take so I could grip about it later :shades:.
Finally after about 20 minutes I was able to pull forward and pay. I quickly talked to the guy at the window and asked what the Suburban had ordered. He told me the Suburban had ordered over $70 worth of stuff on 3 different tickets. WOW. I know fast food is getting more expensive every day, but would still take a lot to hit $70. To make it even worse, it was THREE differerent orders. No wonder it took so long.
Now I may be wrong, but in my humble opinion, that kind of order in the drive-thru is inconsiderate. I think it would have been better to park and go inside where it could be better manage and not hold up a line that expects to be in and out quickly. As it was, the restraunt lost several sales in that little bit because he took so long. What say you?? Ya ya he has a right to go through the drive-thru, but come on! Have a little respect and consideration for those behind you! What should have taken 5 minutes took almost 25 minutes and also caused the loss of several more dollars with the customers that left.
A similar thing happened to us at the beach many years back. Then, it was a minivan loaded with people that managed to get into the drive-thru line about 30 seconds or so before we did. Same deal -- took forever with lots of stuff going back and forth between the van and the Arch employee.
He told me the Suburban had ordered over $70 worth of stuff on 3 different tickets. WOW.
An inconsiderate Suburban or an inconsiderate restaurant policy. Knowing any business does not want to offend and turn away revenue, would any restaurant risk putting a note on their drive-thru menu asking patrons to please walk in for orders totaling over X amount of dollars.
Every once in a while, I too have been burned by inconsiderates at drive throughs, but not to the extent of Suburban. Worst of these has been in off-peak hours when I drive right up to ordering point in back of restaurant, place order, then drive around the corner to a line of perhaps 3-4 vehicles that stands still for inordinate amount of minutes. Straining for a look, the lead vehicle being the offender and finally gets a number of bags of food and drinks.
I find that parking and walking in is usually quicker.
We could extend this to inconsiderate cart drivers at food store who are just able to finese their way ahead of you at "express checkout 10 items or less". I might have 2-3 items in hand. These inconsiderates have far more than 10, and to rub salt into wound, they produce coupons to scan, and of course they pay by check which they have not partially filled out ahead of time, and then fill out and enter data in their check register.
On my way to the store this morning I became stuck behind a slow moving vehicle doing 20-25mph in a 40 zone. When it was safe I passed this guy and went on my way.
Returning from the store I see the same driver pulled over by the police finishing up what looked to be a field sobriety test. A way down the road I glanced in my mirror and saw the driver getting back in his car, so apparently he wasn't drunk.
This begs a new question, how do you tell the difference between a hypermiler and a drunk? :confuse: It seems the police are having a hard time too.
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The other day I am turning around on the local highway. Being NJ this involves a jug handle. I'm going around just as I should and the light turns red so I stop. Well, you would have thought I killed the person behind me who lays on the horn and and is motioning that I should go right on through the red light because she wants to go somewhere. Had I not seen her trying to gun it before I hit the light she'd have likely hit me. I moved a touch further up to avoid that.
This is the type of person we have in mind when we say "It's tourist season - why can't we shoot them?"
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Oh, we've known that forever. We are a classic area where other than tourists and stores there's no industry. Everything is related to it.
In the next few I'll move myself out of the area and just be a tourist myself.
Actually in driving the thing that gets very ugly in season is the number of folks who come down and forget all about rules of the road. They hit vacation and all that goes out the window.
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Due to our policies of gutting every area of so called middle class (on up) jobs and sending them mostly to all overseas, it bears mentioning that money spent locally, has a min of 8-1 multiplier effect.
Ask Hawaii what happens when the tourists' stay away in droves!!!!! :lemon: One airline recently went bankrupt and laid (I am told everyone) off folks. Literally overnight the fare doubled ! My gosh they do not even grow pineapples commercially and sugar has long since gone elsewhere.
That boggles my mind with Hawaii. Have yet to make it there but can still remember a pineapple I got straight off the plane from Hawaii. About the sweetest fruit I ever had. Exquisite. Shame to lose that to tourism.
The island off here (I'm 5 miles inland) is certainly living proof of how much cash tourism creates.
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Many folk who feel that way are not allowed by their employer to deal with the public, but serve very well following a machine or some other mindless routine.
Ok so I an doing my routine bike ride turn a corner (admitly a bit faster than I really should be doing) and all of a sudden I am facing a head on collision with some Bozo in a Benz. I just barely swerved out of the way barely missing him by less than a foot.
BTW I should mention this was all on a bike path. :sick:
This part of the bike path was going down a very steep slope with a series of sharp hair pin turns.
The path was just wide enough for the Benz, and he had to have been driving it for at least a mile to get to where he was.
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That's a good one!
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What is it about a shoulder or break-down lane that some folks just can't resist?
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As another poster mentioned she was involved in the settlement house movement (offering social services targeted towards urban poor). But she did not found the US settlement house movement, she did start up Hull house which became the model of settlement houses world wide. Ms. Addams (a distant relative of Charles Addams creator of "The Addams Family) was a resident of Chicago and Hull house is in Chicago. Hence the naming of the Northwest Tollway (old name) to the Jane Addams Memorial Tollway.
Amount of entrances on Northwest much less than free interstates, so not as much of a hassle with cars entering from ramps onto right lane.
Its been a while since I have been on that road. I was more thinking the Chicago area expressways which do have more frequent access and egress.
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That would be Carol Moseley Braun, first African American woman Senator from the State of Illinois. She served in 90's and supported Clinton on NAFTA. She later was appointed Ambassador to New Zealand.
She ran in Democrat race for nomination in 2004 presidential contest alongside Kerry, Edward, Sharpton, Kucinich and appeared in debates. She dropped out of race just before Iowa Caucuses.
Braun Tollway does not have good sound as does not Jane Adams Tollway.
I was thinking the "Hillary Rodman Clinton Tollroad". Tollroad seems more appropriate than Freeway in her case!
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You mean "Rodham" not "Rodman". Rodman was Dennis Rodman, the eclectic basketball player of the Championship Bulls Teams.
Hillary Rodham Clinton Tollroad name would be bad in that it would cause more drivers to act inconsiderately. Knowing they were on a road by that name, they would "subconciously" do things that they might not otherwise thinking that they could get away with it. Such as: intimidation in the left lane, flagrant speeding, continuous lane changing and lieing to police officer when pulled over.
Jimmy Carter Tollroad would be better in honoring a US President who also won the Nobel Peace Prize. Drivers likely would be more civil and not inconsiderate. Drivers would also remember Carter's advocacy for peace and conservation and would be calm, would slow their pace and conserve fuel.
I grew up in northwest Indiana, where I-94 (the Frank Borman Expressway) was 3 lanes each way at the time. There's an exit just about every mile from I-65 to beyond the Illinois line, and in the Chicago area the exit is almost *always* on the right.
Dad told me that in that situation, the right lane is for entering and preparing to exit... the center lane is for driving... and the left lane is for passing. It made good sense to me, and I do my damnedest to abide by that still.
I think that in the States, lane discipline has become a casualty of artificially low speed limits... and now lack of lane discipline is a major reason they can't be raised much without compromising safety. :mad:
Texas Interstate 40 has two lanes each way and indeed have signs and enforcement that say: left lane passing only. The speed limit 3 years ago was 80 mpg.
Well they do have the Kennedy Expressway and the Reagan Memorial tollway/highway (two thirds is a tollway one third a freeway).
Back on topic, I had to near misses they other day as two people within a minute of each other tried to merge into my lane as i was next to them. One even did it right after making a left turn (which he really shouldn't have done since I was on the road he was turning onto). :sick:
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For the forum, what is the speed limits in other states along the interstate? I hear some up North have limits in the 70s. Others like in Ca have 65 to 70 max.
Just asking, due to my wife and myself will be traveling to Yellowstone then to Ill to see our son's family this october.
Hope all had an exellent 4th and hope all of us stayed safe.
jensad
Once you get out of Texas that same interstate (I40 E/W) drops to 70/65 mph if I recall correctly.
Here was step 19 in the GPS/Mapquest:
..."
18: Merge onto I-15 N via the exit on the LEFT toward I-40/LAS VEGAS. 4.4 mi"
"19: Keep RIGHT to take I-40 E toward NEEDLES (Passing through ARIZONA and NEW MEXICO, then crossing into TEXAS). 965.3 m "...
BTW, in Texas according to this link and news accounts I have read, parts of I-10 and I-20 in the western part of the state have limits of 80 mph. As far as I know, I-40 has a maximum limit of 75 mph in Texas.
One inaccuracy that I'm aware of personally in the link (at least as of March 2007): "other roads" (2-lane highways) in Arizona have maximum limits of 65 mph, not 55 mph. However, in the Navajo Nation in the northeast part of the state, most 2-lane roads (other than US-numbered highways) are posted no higher than 55 mph.
Good luck on your trip! I'd like to be doing the same thing.
I rarely hit 70 on my drive,and coaxed 25mpg out of the big V8 on this latest trip. Not too shabby.
Between 4th of July Pass & Wallace, Idaho, I-90 is posted at 75. That's a fun drive!
Cheers!
Paul
I think even being near a driver going that fast, and pulling a boat is scary. I was driving my private vehcile and I observed an accident on I 80 near Vallejo that seemed in slow motion as the driver lost control of his car and his boat went sideways off the tralier, and slowly grinded to a halt across the 1 and 2 lanes. Amazingly no other car was involved.
Thanks to all for the info on highways and speed limits.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad
Wise up folks !! She was the promising pre-med student who will not be a whole lot of people's doctor!!!
RIP.
Since I've cartopped canoes for years, I always notice how people tie their boats down. You want to avoid most of those guys too - canoes and kayaks need to be secured across the hulls to the roof racks and the front and rear painters/lines need to be tied off to the car somehow (so if the racks fail, and they do now and then, the lines will keep the boats with the car).
Kayakers are especially lax about tossing little boats on their car and "lashing" them down with old bicycle innertubes across the hulls with nothing more. I know a few guys who've lost their boats this way too.
Ladders on roofs are another one to watch out for.
I remember when I was a kid, I was riding in a car with my uncle driving, and we were behind a truck loaded up with boxes. The truck somehow abruptly corrected itself or changed directions, and the boxes started hitting the road. They were filled with empty glass bottles. I remember we had no choice but to hit what had fallen - amazingly we didn't get a flat tire.
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I decided to hit the drive-thru of a local Arches today because I didn't want to take the time to go inside and then get back in. I knew it wouldn't really matter because the local Arches around here are notoriously slow anyway, but today was really bad. I pulled in and I was car #4 behind a Suburban, a Honda and a Toyota. I didn't think much of it, but then after a few minutes, I realized I hadn't moved. I looked down at the clock and realized I had been in line for almost 5 minutes and I had yet to order. The Suburban in front was still ordering. Then he finally finished and pulled forward to pay. There was enough room between the pay window and the Honda to pull forward and order. It took all of about 30 seconds for him to order and pull behind the Surburban. The the Toyota pulled forward to order. But because Mr Suburban was still at the pay window, Toyota didn't order. I wasn't able to see much, but I could see that this wasn't a normal transaction as I saw the order taker stick his head out several times and exchange stuff with the Driver.
This took several minutes and finally he pulled forward to the pick-up window. The Toyota ordered and again it took all of about 30 seconds to order. He pulled forward and by then Honda had paid and then while Toyota was paying I was able to order. So all this was going along smoothly, except for Suburban, which by now I had realized was the big hold up. I pulled forward to pay, but couldn't because Suburban was still at the pickup window. 15 minutes had passed by now. There were probably 5 or 6 cars behind me now still waiting to order. I watched Surburban at the front winodw and noticed probably 5 or 6 bags of food go through, and then a couple go back for whatever reason. Then the drink chain started. Againd SEVERAL drinks. I actually lost count, but it was at least 6 or 7 I think. Then more bags of food. I was floored. Who in thier right mind goes through the drive through and orders THAT much stuff. Granted he was in a Suburban it could carry 8 people, but the amount of food I saw pass through would feed more than even that Suburban could hold.
Around the time that the drinks started passing through all the cars behind me except one had backed out and left. The one directly behind me had already ordered, but I could tell they were about to cut and run. I still hadn't paid and I was also ready to cut and run, but a morbid part of me wanted to see how long this whole process would take so I could grip about it later :shades:.
Finally after about 20 minutes I was able to pull forward and pay. I quickly talked to the guy at the window and asked what the Suburban had ordered. He told me the Suburban had ordered over $70 worth of stuff on 3 different tickets. WOW. I know fast food is getting more expensive every day, but would still take a lot to hit $70. To make it even worse, it was THREE differerent orders. No wonder it took so long.
Now I may be wrong, but in my humble opinion, that kind of order in the drive-thru is inconsiderate. I think it would have been better to park and go inside where it could be better manage and not hold up a line that expects to be in and out quickly. As it was, the restraunt lost several sales in that little bit because he took so long. What say you?? Ya ya he has a right to go through the drive-thru, but come on! Have a little respect and consideration for those behind you! What should have taken 5 minutes took almost 25 minutes and also caused the loss of several more dollars with the customers that left.
An inconsiderate Suburban or an inconsiderate restaurant policy. Knowing any business does not want to offend and turn away revenue, would any restaurant risk putting a note on their drive-thru menu asking patrons to please walk in for orders totaling over X amount of dollars.
Every once in a while, I too have been burned by inconsiderates at drive throughs, but not to the extent of Suburban. Worst of these has been in off-peak hours when I drive right up to ordering point in back of restaurant, place order, then drive around the corner to a line of perhaps 3-4 vehicles that stands still for inordinate amount of minutes. Straining for a look, the lead vehicle being the offender and finally gets a number of bags of food and drinks.
I find that parking and walking in is usually quicker.
We could extend this to inconsiderate cart drivers at food store who are just able to finese their way ahead of you at "express checkout 10 items or less". I might have 2-3 items in hand. These inconsiderates have far more than 10, and to rub salt into wound, they produce coupons to scan, and of course they pay by check which they have not partially filled out ahead of time, and then fill out and enter data in their check register.
Returning from the store I see the same driver pulled over by the police finishing up what looked to be a field sobriety test. A way down the road I glanced in my mirror and saw the driver getting back in his car, so apparently he wasn't drunk.
This begs a new question, how do you tell the difference between a hypermiler and a drunk? :confuse: It seems the police are having a hard time too.
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Was it "pre-owned"? If so, I sure wouldn't have wanted to be following that stinkpot going 65mph. :sick:
This is the type of person we have in mind when we say "It's tourist season - why can't we shoot them?"
Tourists are very much appreciated by most sub economy regions.
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In the next few I'll move myself out of the area and just be a tourist myself.
Actually in driving the thing that gets very ugly in season is the number of folks who come down and forget all about rules of the road. They hit vacation and all that goes out the window.
Due to our policies of gutting every area of so called middle class (on up) jobs and sending them mostly to all overseas, it bears mentioning that money spent locally, has a min of 8-1 multiplier effect.
Ask Hawaii what happens when the tourists' stay away in droves!!!!! :lemon: One airline recently went bankrupt and laid (I am told everyone) off folks. Literally overnight the fare doubled ! My gosh they do not even grow pineapples commercially and sugar has long since gone elsewhere.
The island off here (I'm 5 miles inland) is certainly living proof of how much cash tourism creates.
Good luck to all and stay safe (and far away from boats and outhouses on freeways.
jensad * *
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BTW I should mention this was all on a bike path. :sick:
This part of the bike path was going down a very steep slope with a series of sharp hair pin turns.
The path was just wide enough for the Benz, and he had to have been driving it for at least a mile to get to where he was.
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