Ford Freestyle - Taurus X

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  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    There is a little plug in the back for the headphones. Wireless won't work w/it. It also has a mode switch to pick CD or radio station. Don't know "how" it works - just does.

     

    Can't see out w/the dvd and.. don't want them watching tv all the time. :(
  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    The ground clearance measured from the rear axle is 8 inches, if that helps any...

     

    from post 1076 ANT14 - you can "go to" his message by number if you want to check it out.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    "There is a little plug in the back for the headphones. Wireless won't work w/it. It also has a mode switch to pick CD or radio station. Don't know "how" it works - just does."

     

    This is on the Freestyle? Where is this little plug?

     

    If this is on the Freestyle, then you might try the 2/4 combination to get into "dual play" mode. I'll take a look at the manual again, but I think it said this only works with the DVD.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    "don't want them watching tv all the time"

     

    They can't watch TV, unless you hook up an antenna. ;)
  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    This thread is going like the rest of my day... :) - no,it isn't on the Freestyle. That was my original question. My car now has it and the Ford salesman said the Freestyle would have it but I can't find it....Rear audio w/out dvd that is.

     

    Thanks!!!
  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    But they can scream for a movie when they are only in the car for a 10 minute ride or beg for the Playstation to come along to soccer practice.

     

    Seems easier to just plug in the portable for long trips....although if it were in the headrest instead of overhead.....
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    Technically, you do get "rear audio" without the DVD player. But it's the same as the front, it has to be controlled by somebody up front, and of course you can turn off the front speakers if you want to with the fader.

     

    But I suppose that's all obvious. ;)

     

    Even with the DVD player, there's no "wired audio" for the rear seats. It's all done via the wireless headphones. And I think they can only listen to what's coming from the DVD player. DVD/CD/Aux In.
  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    OK I give...if you ever get a chance, look in the back of the LR Disco that has the 7 seats. In the back there is a small area that has a couple of green buttons and a headphone jack. It does exist ...

     

    I was just wondering what the Ford guy was talking about....
  • bob17bob17 Member Posts: 8
    Two weekends ago (you remember the storm) while skiing, drove on an unplowed access road with 12-20 inches of snow and parking lot with 2 foot drifts. Then drove home 50 miles on a road with 10 inches. The Freestyle is the best snow car my wife and I have ever owned. We live at an elevation of almost 5000 feet, so we drive on snow a lot. Ground clearance is between 5 and 8 inches depending on the source. The low center of gravity adds to the Freestyle's drivability on snow. As I said in an earlier post, the AWD grip is tenacious.
  • hayes39hayes39 Member Posts: 2
    Live north of Toronto...lots of snow. You mentioned that you put snows on....What size, type, etc... did you put on? I've been unable to hunt down any snow tires so far... Thx
  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    Anyone out there w/tan leather interior w/kiddos? Any problems keeping it clean? Curious - everyone says we should have not ordered the black - HOTlanta....
  • lumber2lumber2 Member Posts: 184
    I saw the pebble interior at the autoshow it was showing so many dirty fingermarks after just 2 days that I was convinced about black or shale as being the only colors to go with on this vehicle. Never seen anything that bad.
  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    That was my fear, would have gone w/shale but isn't available on LTD - another color bummer.
  • rnc5rnc5 Member Posts: 10
    How comfortable are the leather seats in the Limited for long distances, say 2 - 3 hour trips & longer? I have read reviews that say the seats are not so great. Interested in the front driver & passenger and to a lesser extent the 2nd row bench seat comfort.

    As a reference I have a 2000 Explorer XLT with cloth and the front seats are uncomfortable after about 3 hours of driving. Our 2002 VW Passat Wagon with Leather seats are very comfortable.

    Looking at Freestyle for family of 5 and longer road trip comfort.

    Thanks
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I have black leather in my wagon here in Boise. No humidity but it does hit 100 in the summer. I'm not fond of leather seats so I'd prefer cloth. But I don't have kids, and parents really like leather with kids.

     

    I'd rather have a lighter color of leather, or perforated leather. Keep the AC on and grab some leather treatment stuff, like Lexol.

     

    Steve, Host
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    The leather seats on the LTD Freestyle are perforated leather. Not sure about the SEL . . . can't tell from the brochure if it's perforated leather or not. I suspect it is.

     

    The SE is only available in cloth.

     

    I find the driver's seat to be quite comfortable for 3-hr trips. Haven't tried the rear seats for that long, but I suspect they're just as comfortable.

     

    Wouldn't want to sit in the 3rd row for that long if I could help it, though I suspect it could be done.

     

    The pebble leather is a relatively light tan, but not nearly as light as my '02 Taurus. It's lighter than my '96 Taurus was, though (which was more of a camel).

     

    Some occasional use of a good leather cleaner should keep things relatively clean, I'd imagine, at least with adults.
  • canuck6canuck6 Member Posts: 24
    I live in Calgary, Alberta. Snow, ice and slop. The Limited series has Pirreli P6 four season tires - no need for winters as they perform excellent in all types of conditions. Not sure about the other models, but I seem to recall that they had all seasons, which aren't the same thing. All seasons don't take to ice and snow very well.

    On my Windstar Van, I switch over to Bridgestone Blizzaks - excellent tire.
  • freestyle galfreestyle gal Member Posts: 79
    I've got about 2,600 miles on my new Freestyle and I'm taking it to the dealer for the first oil change. I read somewhere about the Freestyle's ability to use some new oil that improves a car's emissions. This car already has a greeen rating of 8 out of 10, which is one reason I bought it. The new oil has less sulfur and phosporous emisssions (I think I got that right). Does anyone know about this oil? Do you have to ask for it? Is it in the car already?

    I still have not seen one Freestyle on the road yet! I've seen one 500--kind of nondescript, I must say. Of course, my Silver/shale Freebie looks like about 10 other cars, too, but I would recognize another one because I'm really looking for one. My local dealer sold the one black LTD they had (James Ford, Half Moon Bay), and the dealership from which I bought my car (Hayward Ford) only has one or two and they are a big dealership. Things that make you go hmmmmm....
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    News to me (but so much is <g>). Try skimming the Engine Oil - A slippery subject Part 2 discussion while waiting for responses in here.

     

    Steve, Host
  • freestyle galfreestyle gal Member Posts: 79
    Hi rnc5: re: seat comfort.

    I have an SEL with leather seats and I just returned from a "power road trip" to Los Angeles from San Francisco. I drove down on Saturday, drove home on Sunday--7 hours each way. I'm a 5'4" female with a tender back and I did just fine. My daughter is about my size, and she found the passenger seat quite comfy. My husband (6') finds the passenger side a little cramped. Comfort is kind of an individual thing. I'm very uncomfortable in my husband's 2002 F-150 Lariat (leather seats) and he's very comfortable. My 2003 Expedition (cloth seats) was probably the most comfortable car I've driven for long trips. As for your family in the back seats, they aren't real plush (I have the 40/60 split seats) and I guess if the kids were small it might be more comfortable than if your kids are bigger....
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    The Freestyle uses Ford's 5W-20, which is a blend of synthetic and non-synthetic oils. They started recommending this in the Duratec's a few years back (at lesat back to '02).

     

    As best I can tell, they did it mainly to get an extra mpg on the EPA estimates for CAFE. I've read one or two places that the engine's tolerances were made tighter, too, and that's why they went to the new oil. I haven't been able to confirm that with anybody who'd actually know, though.
  • brantybranty Member Posts: 53
    We have a black limited with pebble interior and it is the only colour I would consider - much warmer than black (in my view). We have teenage kids so spills etc. are not a big issue.

     

    Our previous vehicle was a Mazda MPV with beige leather interior. In the 5 years we had that vehicle we never had any problems with dirt. Leather is very easy to keep clean - actually easier than fabric.

     

    Colour comes down to personal preference and we just like a beige interior over black.
  • brantybranty Member Posts: 53
    We have a Limited AWD since November and have made a few trips between 2-3 hours. We have found the seats to be very comfortable. There is lots of adjustment in the driver's seat including lumbar support. This makes it easy to get just the right positioning. The passenger seat does not have quite as much adjustment but it is equally comfortable on a long trip. I find that no matter how comfortable the seat is I need a stretch after about 3 hours anyway.

    I have ridden in a 2001 Explorer and the Freestyle seats are much more comfortable (in my opinion).

    Not sure about the bench seat for comfort in the second row. We have the 2-seat configuration in the second row and they are quite comfortable as well.
  • bob17bob17 Member Posts: 8
    No snow tires yet made for 215 65 17. I have seen another Freestyle SEL with studded snow tires 225 55 17.
  • figueroafamilyfigueroafamily Member Posts: 223
    In our family's trip to Florida on Freebie (LTD AWD), I could easily endure 3 hours on the seat. By that time, seat comfort was not the limiting factor. Mr. Bladder is! =)

     

    I think I did 4+ hours in one section of the return trip to New Jersey. No problema!

     

    Since our family size is only two people until July, I can't attest of the 2nd/3rd rear seats. But I don't see much of a difference in seat feel.

     

    Sam
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    I took a look at the specs here on Edmunds, just to see how the Freestyle compared to the Explorer and Expedition. In all cases, I took the largest engine available and the AWD or 4WD version to compare.

     

    Length:

    Freestyle is 10 inches longer than Explorer and 6 inches shorter than Expedition.

     

    Width: Freestyle is 2 inches wider than Explorer and 4 inches narrower than Expedition.

     

    Height: Freestyle is 3 inches shorter than Explorer and 8' shorter than Expedition.

     

    Curb weight: Freestyle is 300 lbs lighter than Explorer and 1500 lbs lighter than Expedition.

     

    Gas mileage: Freestyle gets 36% better mileage in the city and 33% better mileage on the freeway than either Explorer or Expedition.

     

    Pretty impressive vehicle, if you ask me.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    I took a look at the specs here on Edmunds, just to see how the Freestyle compared to the Nissan Pathfinder and the Lexus RX330. In all cases, I took the largest engine available and the AWD or 4WD version to compare.

      

    Length:

    Freestyle is 12 inches longer than Pathfinder and 14 inches shorter than RX330.

      

    Width: Freestyle is 2 inches wider than both Pathfinder and RX330.

      

    Height: Freestyle is 5 inches shorter than Pathfinder and 2 inches taller than RX330.

      

    Curb weight: Freestyle is 700 lbs lighter than Pathfinder and 50 lbs heavier than RX330.

      

    Gas mileage: Freestyle gets 14% better mileage on the freeway and 27% better mileage in the city than Pathfinder. Freestyle gets the same mileage on the freeway and 6% better mileage in the city than RX330.

     

    Again, Freestyle compares quite favorably, IMO.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,817
    how about some counterpoints from an explorer owner?

    10 inches shorter than a freestyle, but still carries 7. i think the ingress/egrress from 2nd/3rd row is better in an explorer.

    prefer the rwd drive with tri mode 4wd.

    i can meet/exceed the epa highway numbers with 4 people on board, loaded with luggage, cargo box on the luggage rack. this ia at about 10 to 15 over. i find it strange i get my best mileage under these conditions.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    I drove a limited AWD and an SEL FWD today, and own a 2002 Mountaineer V8 RWD. To me, the Freestyle is better in every way - it is smoother, quieter, safer, obtains better mileage, has better space inside, is easier to get in and out of, has a very handy split 3rd row seat, has a folding front passenger seat back, and is several thousand dollars less expensive. I don't think that the Mountaineer is significantly faster, if at all.

     

    Since I live in southern California and do not go to the snowy mountains, the front wheel drive will be fine, and will save $1,600 and give slightly better mileage than the four wheel drive.

     

    I had initially thought that I wanted to replace the Mountaineer with a sedan so that I could carry things which rattle in the trunk, but the versatility and quality of the Freestyle is very attractive, and the smoother ride will help with the cargo rattling. I am surprised at how much more I like it than the Five Hundred and Montego sedans.

     

    Putting a piece of wood on the dead pedal to bring it even with the frame rail hump to its left gives a little more footwell space.
  • yankee2yankee2 Member Posts: 1
    Regarding IVT you can check out Torotraks web site at this link http://www.torotrak.com/
  • dutchcanadiandutchcanadian Member Posts: 2
    My freestyle is at the dealer at the moment waiting for a new transmission.

    This is what happened. After just 7000 km a bolt in the transmission broke off due to a design and/or production error. My local dealer had to make pictures of the damage on special request by ford officials. I still cannot believe this is happening to me.
  • lumber2lumber2 Member Posts: 184
    Whats the last six of the Vin #?
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    Ouch.

     

    Ford better hope it's a production error and not a design error.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    Dutchcanadian, that is unfortunate, but be glad nothing really happening to you, just a defect in your vehicle. My 2002 Mountaineer came from the factory with differential gears not set to mesh properly, so it was singing loudly after a few thousand miles. The dealer simply ordered the parts and repaired it. A slight inconvenience, but no tragedy, and not indicative of anything other than a defect in my particular vehicle. They are now building more than 6,400 Five Hundreds, Montegos, and Freestyles a week in the Chicago plant, so there will surely be a few defects which slip through.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,817
    sorry to hear about your trouble. did you get a loaner to drive in the mean time? i think a lot of people will interested in how the dealer/ford is handling this.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Did I read one of your posts correctly that you had transmission fluid damage your driveway before the transmission bolt broke? The two events may be related.

     

    Was the bolt on a moving part (not many in a CVT), or on the CVT case? Did the dealer find the broken bolt by opening your transmission? Just technical curiousity...

     

    P.S. There are garage and driveway cleaning fluids available.
  • blokey_blokeblokey_bloke Member Posts: 1
    Infinitely Variable Transmission.

     

    For detailed info, see http://cvt.com.sapo.pt/ivt/ivt.htm
  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    What is the decode process of this - mine is

     

    A31993 -

    What does that tell you and what should we look for?
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    Just an FYI

     

    My Freestyle was built on Dec 10, 2004

     

    I believe that it showed up on the lot around January 3, 2005.
  • pnewbypnewby Member Posts: 277
    I beleive the first one built would have been A00001, mine is A10945, arrived at the dealer lot wk of 11/21/04, purchased 11/29/04. I noticed the post regarding the trans. problem was made by an ID that was newly added that day. Anyone hear anything else from that? Was it supposed to be CVT or 6sp? Just wondering.
  • sj freebiesj freebie Member Posts: 22
    Great forum. I've been lurking for several weeks gathering information. I'm very appreciative of all the information that has been passed on by such a diverse group of interested parties.

     

    We brought home our new Freestyle SEL FWD this Saturday. Its Norsea Blue with Shale leather, 6 passenger configuration. The price was right -- fortunately purchased on the Z-plan (my Dad)including a $750 rebate. Its our first car purchase in 12 years. Of course my wife will use it to commute between San Jose and Sunnyvale and I inherit her '92 Ranger (also Z-plan) so I don't have to drive my '76 Bronco (A-plan) anymore. There was an '84 Mustang in there too but it was totaled in an accident three years ago. Cars are like real estate in California, keep forever. :)

     

    We got everything we wanted except the rear console; leather, color, safety package, aux. rear air conditioning, front convenience package, 50/50 rear seat. I guess I will try and order the rear console through the parts department, as we felt we really wanted it but wasn't worth continuing to wait. I will also install a hitch for our bicycle rack as that becomes available on the aftermarket.

     

    So far, I am very pleased with how it drives. Since it feels stronger than our Ranger with its 145 hp, 3.0 liter engine, the power isn't a problem. I am hoping for a very reliable vehicle that we will get to use a lot.
  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    Welcome & Congrats!

     

    We've ordered ours and it was due in today or tomorrow (an argument in the HH) but no word as of yet. We were able to do the Z plan too (my dad) and this is the first time I've used it. Hoping to put it to use more later - hubby wants a truck and two kiddos down the road....

     

    Hope you enjoy and let us know how it goes. We really do have a good group here!
  • accordfreakaccordfreak Member Posts: 39
    From what I've read, most magazines say the vehicle is underpowered. Anyone care to comment on that who owns the car and does any one know if Ford plans to offer a different engine next model year? Thanks for the help!
  • anotherwagonanotherwagon Member Posts: 301
    Lots of comments about the power in the previous posts. Also, I know the owners will chime in for you!
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    It's not a sports car by any means. And it's certainly underpowered if you expect to tow much with it (it's only rated at 2000 lbs towing).

     

    But it's got plenty of power . . far more than you'd think for "just" a 200hp engine.

     

    Compare the mid 8-second 0-60 times for this vehicle to other vehicles in the class, or even other sedans. I think you'll be surprised that it holds its own quite well.
  • canuck6canuck6 Member Posts: 24
    re: Hitch for Bicycle - Draw-Tite (Reese) makes one for the Freestyle. Google it and then find your closest dealer for installation.
  • canuck6canuck6 Member Posts: 24
    Accordfreak - Don't worry about power. The CVT compensates for what appears (only on paper) a lower HP rating. The CVT results in delivery of optimum power throughout accerleration, i.e. there is no power band to deal with as conventional transmissions.

    I was concerned with power as well, but after my first 1000km trip (literally the day I picked up the car), I fell in love with the feel. It does feel different. The way my brother-in-law put it (who is a Chrysler mechanic), it's like taking off in a plane - as you reach cruising altitude/speed, rpms drop and you just motor along.

    I believe that previous posts for those in the know (ANT14?) implied that motor changes to a larger engine wouldn't take place for 2-3 years. Expect mostly cosmetic changes in the next couple of model years.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    Engine will come in about 2 years, when the model receives some styling changes and upgrades.
  • freestyle galfreestyle gal Member Posts: 79
    **sj freebie**: Hey, welcome to the world of a Freestylin'. I've had mine for a month and love it more all the time. I've got a silver/shale leather SEL FWD and it still has it's "Hayward Ford" plates. I live in Half Moon Bay but work in Cupertino, with some of my schools being in Sunnyvale. I still have not seen one other Freestyle on my commute, on my trip to LA, down to Santa Cruz yesterday--not one! Well, I'm glad to know that at least one will be out on the road where I will be-I'll keep my eye out for ya! Have fun--it's such a great car!
  • canuck6canuck6 Member Posts: 24
    I've had my Freestyle Limited for about a month now and I'm enjoying it as well. Does anyone know where I can send Driver feedback in to Ford? I'd like to provide some feedback from a driver's perspective on how I think it could be made into an even better car - not big things really, but small creature comfort sort of things. Like....why no light in the glove box? or lack of cubby hole space for things like first aid kits, etc. These are not complaints, only suggestions for improvement. As the same time, I would provide what I like about the car. Any thoughts? I have sent an email into the Ford web site and I'll post what their reply is.
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