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  • geodonnellgeodonnell Member Posts: 16
    Depending on how hard he had to work for the money, you might try a polite conversation about whether or not he/she plans to still take 33%. I've learned that some PI attorneys will take a lesser percentage if they don't go to trial, and even less if they don't even go through trial prep.

    At this point the only thing you can do is appeal to his/her sense of fairness. The reality is that people who get quick settlements help subsidize those who go to court and lose. That's part of the bargain when you hire someone in these circumstances. But the lawyer should still not walk away with an outrageous sum for the work. $500 an hour would certainly be more than ample compensation.
  • bheckbheck Member Posts: 8
    Yes I am working on that now. Pretty much the adjustor called my lawyer and told him the limit and he had no problem with settling at the max. So now I am trying to get him to come down off the 1/3 and negotiate with my health insurance to adjust their bill. Hopefully they will be understanding. Thanks again geodonnell.
  • garyo4garyo4 Member Posts: 1
    MY SONS CAR WAS RECENTLY TOTALED BY A DRUNK DRIVER WHO WAS CITED WITH 3 VIOLATIONS. tHE CAR WAS PARKED IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. wHAT CAN WE EXPECT AS REPLACEMENT VALUE OF MY SONS CAR? I HAVE RESEARCHED FOR A REPLACEMENT JUST LIKE HE HAD BUT NONE TO BE FOUND IN OUR AREA.HE WOULD HAVE TO BUMP UP TO A NEWER YEAR. IF THE OTHER INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T COME UP WITH ENOUGH MONEY FOR A NEWER CAR, DOES MY SON HAVE TO SUE THE OTHER DRIVER TO COVER THE ADDITIONAL COSTS?
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    " wHAT CAN WE EXPECT AS REPLACEMENT VALUE OF MY SONS CAR? "

    1) Caps off please, makes it look like you're yelling
    2) Need more details about the vehicle specifics
    3) Post that question over in Real World Trade In Values.
  • marsha7marsha7 Member Posts: 3,703
    There is a good reason for knowing the other side's policy limits...while your reasoning is valid, i.e. if you have $150K in damages, then you have that regardless of policy limits, it really only matters in the event of serious injury...

    For example, if the other side has $50K limits, but your injuries are $4500 in meds, then the case will be worth between $8-20K, and limits do not matter, as the case value, IMO, is well UNDER the limits...

    But, when you have $55K in meds and $42K lost wages, knowing if you will be adequately compensated would be nice to know...worse yet, with $55K in meds and the other guy only has $25K liability limits, unless you have UM limits OVER their liability limits, you would only recover $25K from insurance to pay your $55K in meds...

    That is why I constantly recommend $100K medpay, if your state and company allows it, along with $100K UM PLUS a 1 million UM umbrella, because if he has $100K liability and you have $100K UM, your UM will not pay because there is no "excess" coverage, but with the 1 million umbrella (I pay $150 per year for the 1 million umbrella) you will have the excess coverage you need...

    Suing the guy WILL get you a healthy judgment, but the challenge is COLLECTING on the judgment...considering how docs and hospitals want to be paid on a 30-60-90 day cycle or be sent to collections, you will see your credit ruined years before you collect on your judgment...and, if he qualifies for CH 7 bankruptcy, he can blow out your judgment with the stroke of a pen...

    Just a few of my random thoughts...

    Bob
  • bobstbobst Member Posts: 1,776
    I agree about the umbrella policy.

    With our house increasing in value the last 5 years, I was afraid our normal car insurance policy would not cover us fully, so we got an umbrella policy for $2 million.
  • marsha7marsha7 Member Posts: 3,703
    When it comes to auto insurance, some carriers sell an umbrella for liability and UM combined into one premium and one policy...my carrier sells them separately...so, I had the 1 mil umbrella on liability, but just found out that the UM umbrella policy was separate...

    What made me ask was a client who suffered $250,000 in meds and the at fault party had only $25,000 in coverage...I called my agent to verify my coverage, as it would be UM that could have made up the difference in this man's case...
  • bobstbobst Member Posts: 1,776
    What does UM mean? Uncovered Medical expenses?

    Thanks,

    Bob
  • lilyowenlilyowen Member Posts: 125
    UM = Uninsured motorist
    UIM = Underinsured motorist
    Note these two are usually linked, i.e., UM/UIM

    Actually, from my understanding it won't be possible to actually get your own carrier moving on a UM/UIM until they either receive a denial from the liable party's carrier, evidence that there is no other carrier, or proof that the loss has been settled at limits from the other carrier.

    To that end, yes knowing in advance may save you some time. However, it is unlikely that you have incurred 55k in meds and 40k (actual and provable lossess) and the other carrier is jacking you around if they only have 25k limits. My point was simply that knowing the other party's limits will only really do a few things.

    1. put your mind at ease
    2. put dollar signs in your attorney's eyes

    If your provable losses are 97k and your attorney hasn't made a demand then he thinks the limits are higher than 100k. Your attorney should have a figure that he thinks your claim is worth, likely he doesn't have that yet because you or your wife are still treating -- if the treatment is completed than he should have that figure and be making a demand. Knowing the limits will not effect the other carriers payout -- it may effect his demand, but will not effect the payout. So basically, knowing the limits is essentially useless.

    Think of it this way:

    If he has 25k limits you are screwed and will need to go to trial anyway -- the ins. co will defend and try to settle for 25k full and final -- you will likely (and smartly in my opinion) decline. In court you will be awarded a dollar figure and the ins. co will cover their limits worth and their insured will be liable for excess.

    If he has 100k limits you and your attorney will have a choice again (I would probably still decline unless you suspect the other party has absolutely no assets)

    If he has 300k then you should be covered well and your attorney can still make his fair demand and the negotiations begin.

    If he has a 2 million CSL then your attorney will redouble his efforts to make a ludicrious demand, one which will likely delay the process and bring about much hilarity around the other carriers office.

    While I'm in complete agreement with Marsha7 about the Medpay, PIP, UM/UIM limits being high on your own policy (you do need to protect yourself -- even at a premium (no pun intended)) I still don't really see the point -- or necessity for that matter -- of knowing the other party's limits. I still stand by the idea that it's worth what it's worth and it is what it is.

    BTW, if they know you've incurred 55k meds and 42k of lost wages then the limits are over 100k or they would've already offered the same -- period.
  • bheckbheck Member Posts: 8
    My lawyer has informed me the limits are 100k per person. Due to the serious of my injuries and amount of income I have lost I told him I do not want to settle. I just assume to file suit and garnish. My attorney is looking into his liquidable assets. I meet with attorneys next week. I told attorney since this was a no brainer for him to come down off the 1/3, he is not budging. Said he would try to get med bill reduced. I finally thought about all this and asked myself what this is all worth to me. 60K in my pocket (which would include loss wages) and the med bills paid, I would feel satisfied. We'll see what they have to say next week.
  • stupidfoolstupidfool Member Posts: 53
    well i was pulling into the post office parking lot going like 30 speed limit was 40 i didn't brake coming in i was gonna brake when i was going to park. anyways the brakes didn't lock up or nothing, they just schreeched or something. anyways i went thru a fence at the post office, knocked down a fence( half a fence actually 3 poles about 5 feet apart ) with razor wire on top, fence is still good, only 1 part will probably need replaceing and the poles need to be put into sockets.

    my car is fine, the bumper is totally screwed up and the left side fender is torn up, no other damage, how would my insurance handle this? it's aaa texas?
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Stew.... could you explain that a little better? You were going to brake when parking but didn't? :confuse:

    Did you hit the gas while going through the fence? :confuse:

    These things happen but your explanation is hard to follow.

    What kind of car were you driving?

    Good luck, Mark :surprise:
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • stupidfoolstupidfool Member Posts: 53
    i was driving a mustang, i tried to push on the gas and it like didn't lock up, so i just slid forward for a bit, and went thru a fence :blush:
  • lilyowenlilyowen Member Posts: 125
    Bheck:

    Hope everything continues along well -- I'd say you probably have a decent UIM claim there with your own carrier (though it sucks that you likely will have to go in that direction.)

    Stupidfool:

    As painfully difficult as it is to ascertain what actually happened I'll spare a few moments to take you through the process.

    Actually, I'll move ahead with the assumption (from your post) that you know absolutely nothing about insurance.

    1. You must file a claim with your carrier (if the post office hasn't already.)
    2. Your carrier will attempt to contact you to take a statement, give them what they request or they may deny your claim (thereby making you responsible personally for any damages to the fence.)
    3. If you have first party coverage, i.e., collision coverage, they may want to look at your vehicle and they will reimburse you for damages (less your deductible)
    4. Sit back and let them handle the claim -- ask your adjuster any questions you may have.

    Now a little sidebar commentary:

    a. 30 mph into a parking lot, as you found out, is WAYYYY too fast. You brake before you enter parking lots -- it can save more than a fence and your Mustang, it can save lives.
    b. likely if the fence is knocked down it will be replaced, luckily this isn't very expensive -- depending on how deep the posts were sunk into the ground and how badly the lot was torn up when you struck it -- if the poles were sunk into the actual parking lot you may have a larger claim than you expect.
    c. needing to replace a fender and bumper is not a "fine" car -- that is unless you actually needed two 1/4's a rear cover, one door, and a front-clip before the accident. If there is first party coverage, your insurance company will certainly want to reimburse you for the damages to your vehicle.
    d. please slow down before entering parking lots -- it will do you alot of good in the long run -- to this end, hitting the "gas" as your last post states, is not the correct way to slow down a vehicle. Please refer to your owners manual or any other human who drives for advice on how to slow down a vehicle.
  • stupidfoolstupidfool Member Posts: 53
    i just started to drive about 6 months ago, just getting hang of everything lolz. insurance was notified and everything. but is it normal for them in the week and a day tommorow, not once go to check the car out??? they keep saying next day crap. it's really pissing me off! i miss my car :cry::cry:
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Stu,.. insurance companies can be slow so be patient. I still don't understand that you stepped on the gas while going in the parking lot... stepping on the gas is reserved for the 80 year olds! :blush:

    You were lucky that you didn't do more damage... 6 months of driving is not much experience but hopefully you have learned from this mishap.

    Good luck and keep us posted on what the insurance company does for you.

    M....156.
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ... **Suing the guy WILL get you a healthy judgment, but the challenge is COLLECTING on the judgment... considering how docs and hospitals want to be paid on a 30-60-90 day cycle or be sent to collections, you will see your credit ruined years before you collect on your judgment. ..and, if he qualifies for CH 7 bankruptcy, he can blow out your judgment with the stroke of a pen...**
    =============================

    Excellent post .. most folks kinda forget this part ..



    Bob ...? .. Marsha ...? ..... I won't ask ..l.o.l...



    Terry.
  • stupidfoolstupidfool Member Posts: 53
    all their replaceing on the car is the front bumper and bumper cover, and left side fender. and painting all the parts. not the whole car. they said that damage was 3.1 grand. i called the people who are replaceing the fenders and stuff. the bumper costs 135+ 100 for bumper cover and less than 50 dollars for the fender. that's it i can't believe i did 2.8+g's of damage knocking down 3 fence polls and the fence. which can still be reused how stupid is that?

    they said that the heaadlight might be broken or something but they won't know till they try to open the hod and look at the wiring for them. they say they are a little loose...
  • whyaskwhy1whyaskwhy1 Member Posts: 7
    My 2005 Acura MDX touring w/ Nav was badly damaged recently, including a broken windshield, when my neighbor's tree fell on it. My car insurance company, Geico, gave me an estimate for repairing the car (Total 13K). It quoted the cost of "quality replacement part" for the windshield. The estimate indicated that this was the only aftermarket part used in the repair. I was told by a friend that since my car is only a few months old, Geico should pay for OEM parts for all repairs. Could anyone clarify for me the rules on this (i.e., OEM exclusively vs. QRP for the repair of a brand new car)? I live in Pennsylvania BTW in case there are state-specific rules.

    Also, the original windshield has rain sensing capability, but the quote from geico indicated the QRP windshield is a windshield w/o rain sensor. Is it possible they can use the original rain sensor on the replacement windshield? Thanks.
  • omegagenomegagen Member Posts: 67
    Anyone actually KNOW for sure what software major insurance companies use to calculate auto settlements? I'm sure they use other tools too, but every industry relies on a program of some sort to "crunch the numbers". Afterwards, I guess they then resort to good ole human intuition.

    Searches on the Internet only lead to companies that attempt to sell you services to help you calculate a "fair" settlement, whatever that may be!

    Surely, there's someone, somewhere who can shed light on the topic...then again maybe the insurance companies' employees are afraid they'll lose a love one under questionable circumstances if they divulge the "TOP SECRET" info...who knows for sure?
  • bloop00bloop00 Member Posts: 1
    Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I'm new and having trouble navigating the forums. I have a couple of questions on a used car I'm looking at:
    What would I have to worry about if I buy a car that's been in an accident if the car's covered by a Powertrain warranty for 2 more years? (Owner's story was that the car slid off the road, the passenger door had to be replaced, and supposedly there's no other damage - I'd have a mechanic take a look.)
    Would this previous accident affect my insurance rates? I'm 23, and I don't need another reason for them to push up my rates.
    Thanks.
  • lilyowenlilyowen Member Posts: 125
    This is only a shot in the dark, as I'm not overly familiar with rain-sensing windshields -- or anything for that matter beyond the clammy wetness I get when caught in an unforeseen rainstorm.

    I do know however that no OEM actually makes their own glass. It is all contracted out and all pretty much aftermarket. It isn't made by a subsidiary of some subsidiary of the OEM, just by a big glass company who makes all of their glass. Likely your insurance company (and that is pretty key here) is using a glass company that warranties their work and glass -- they should.

    To the "your" insurance company part. You should have a look at your policy and see what provisions it has for part replacement options -- likely it allows them to choose LKQ parts -- of which aftermarket glass would likely qualify.

    Again, can't speak for the rain-sensing ability, or state-specific laws, but a quick perusal of your policy should help answer some of your questions. My thoughts, however, are that the glass is the least of your worries out of a 13k repair. Also, you should note that "OEM" glass (again, which really isn't OEM) is usually outrageously expensive when compared to another glass vendor.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    If the current vehicle has a "windshield with rain sensing ability", then the replacement part should be a "windshield with rain sensing ability". Regardless of whether it's OEM or aftermarket, the functionality has to be the same.
  • mitzijmitzij Member Posts: 613
    Powertrain warranty covers manufacturer's defects, not trouble caused by an accident. I'd get the car carefully inspected by a mechanic before I bought it.
    I believe the only accidents that affect your rates are ones caused by you.
  • lilyowenlilyowen Member Posts: 125
    Of course you are correct -- My apologies for not making that abundantly clear.
  • whyaskwhy1whyaskwhy1 Member Posts: 7
    Geico does have LKQ provisions in their policy, but exactly what this term means is unclear to me. If the afermarket glass is of the same psecification and quality as the original windshield, I would have no problem with Geico saving some money and hopefully pass the saving onto the policyholders. However, from reading several other forums, it seems the aftermarket windshields used by insurance companies are often cheap imports from China and are of inferior quality.

    Regardless, when I brought this issue up to the adjuster yesterday, he gave in and at least verbally agreed to use acura factory glass instead.

    However, there is another twist to the saga, the dealer body shop manager, the manager of sales and the general manager of the Acura dealership (who had been in the bodyshop business for several decades himself) got together and looked at the damaged MDX yesterday. The sales manager who sold us the SUV originally and the bodyshop manager then both called me to tell me that they feel the car should be totaled and will fight hard with Geico to get the car totaled. Although the first estimate of repair cost from Geico was only 13k, they think once the car is taken apart, there most likely will be internal frame damages that will easily dramatically increase the cost and time of repair.

    Now I did mention to the sales manager before that if the car is totaled, I will likely buy a 2006 mdx from them. However, I suppose they would also make a fair amount of money from a big repair job. I am happy that they are doing this, but can someone explain to me why they appear so motivated to get the vehicle totaled in this case?
  • omegagenomegagen Member Posts: 67
    now the insurance company wants my wife to have an "evaluation"(their term) with their doctor!! She's been to several doctors, a physical therapist, 2 chiropractors, & a pain management clinic. Once they received our demand letter now they want to have her "evaluated"! Where was their evaluation when all this happened 2 years ago? All their doctor will find now is the end result of countless treatments, one of which is still going on. I won't trust anything he concludes...especially two years after the accident!

    She lives in pain EVERYDAY and the shinanigans the insurance company has put her through only aggravates the situation!

    She definitely will go, but our question is...Is this normal to request an evaluation this long after the injuries?

    Thxs everyone!
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    It is normal (prudent business practice) to conduct an independent evaluation before settlements that amount to thousands of dollars. Claims Vice Presidents are obligated to justify the checks they write so this is on the way towards a settlement with you. I understand you do not trust their doctor, but the M.D. is NOT one of their staff employees. The doctor is recommended by the medical society or otherwise renowned to be an expert in his field. Perhaps you and your wife will take a pro active attitude with their doctor by extending your full cooperation while feeling free to ask him your questions.
    In other words, take advantage of this doctor's experience and expertise. Hopefully, she will recover soon without pain. :)
  • omegagenomegagen Member Posts: 67
    We definitely have all intentions to cooperate because what he'll find is all the problems that are left after countless treatments. Which like you say would be advantageous for her.

    Aside from my wife's physical troubles, mentally, after seeing doctor after doctor she's pretty much mentally drained. But, with my help she'll persevere.
  • bobstbobst Member Posts: 1,776
    Omega, I assume your wife's pain was caused by an auto accident, not anything the insurance company did.

    If they are paying for her medical care, I think it is reasonable for them to have one of their doctors examine her.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    Excellent advice.....

    This is a good thing for you Omegagen.
  • omegagenomegagen Member Posts: 67
    We've been advised NOT to see their physician because:

    1. Their physician is an Orthopedist with only
    2 years of spine training vs the neurosurgeon my wife
    has gone to which has 6 years of spine training.
    Hence, a step backwards in training and expertise.

    2. Anything their physician finds they will spin in
    their favor. All the MD's my wife has gone to are highly respected in their fields, especially the
    neurosurgeon. All their diagnoses agree my wife's
    spine received serious trauma which in turn will
    continue to be a chronic problem. All the medical data
    they have on my wife proves her case. Which leads to
    the question...If two guys are in a fight and one has a
    butcher knife and the other has nothing. Why throw him
    a butter knife because he feels the fight is unfair??
    Certainly, the case is not that simple, but you get the
    point.

    We've yet decided what direction we'll take because their are pro's and con's to both sides of this chess match.

    Thanks for all your advise and by all means comment if you'd like!
  • marsha7marsha7 Member Posts: 3,703
    I must strongly disagree with euphonium's take on this issue, as it is my experience that the MD chosen by the insurance is anything BUT objective...the MD is chosen almost always is one who is virtually always "defendant oriented" with a definite bias to the insurance company...we often joke that if you were ambulanced into one of those exams directly from the wreck with blood gushing from an amputated finger, and the finger was found still stuck on the steering wheel, the IME (independent [HA!] medical exam) would determine that the accident happened at home...

    You do have to submit to the exam, but be careful what you say...just answer the questions truthfully, but do not offer any more info than what you are asked...but...

    Be sure to tell the doc how the injuries have affected your life and your daily activities...do not embellish, but do be descriptive...most of what you say will NOT be taken down by the MD unless the entire exam is recorded...the entire purpose of the exam is to screw you, plain and simple, and the docs who perform these exams are often worse than the "company docs" who perform work comp exams...

    Think about how it affected your wife's life...can she raise her arm to comb her hair, or does she have the shoulder mobility to hook and unhook her underclothing??? ...can she pick up the young children or grandchildren???...can she work in the yard, bend over to place dishes in the dishwasher, pick up a load of wet clothes from the washer???...can she panic stop a car or does the brake pressure cause stabbing pains in her leg/back/neck/whatever???...we call that the ADL, activities of daily living...

    No, I believe that euphonium, while one of the best posters on this topic, has seriously missed the boat on the IME doctors...they are almost always paid prostitutes who can often print a 5 page narrative on your injuries 3 hours PRIOR to examining you, if you catch my drift...if you truly have an honest one, it will be a rare event, indeed...good luck and be careful...let us know what happens...

    Lastly, it is not unreasonable for the insurance to want the exam after two years, my problem is the biased MDs who do the exams...remember, if they find too often for the injured party, and cost the insurance $$$, they will suddenly find that the insurance no longer send them the $500, 10 minute exams to pay for their Porsches (to keep this post on topic, of course, in an automotive forum)...

    Good luck...

    Bob
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    and he makes valid points that, fortunately, have not happened in my limited experience. In review and considering the climate of trust in your local court system - Marsha's opinion is better than mine.
  • biniarisbiniaris Member Posts: 2
    Long story short, i live on a hill and somehow i forgot to put the e-brake on. My subaru wagon rolled down the street into a trailer and then drove into a neighbor's house. It did almost no damage to the house as it hit a porch post which took 99% of the impact. The question is what should i do? Will my insurance cover this? I have progressive and was fully insured (collision and comprehensive). Would this accident fall into comprehensive? I can't find ANYTHING relating to an accident like this in my policy and there is for sure no mention of anything like this in the exclusions portion of the policy. If i report the accident and they refuse to pay out, then my insurance will still go up...this is why i am wondering what they will do before i report is and whether or not it would be better to not report the incident and eat the 8k than spend the next few years paying it back in the form of higher insurance rates. Also,it is an $8000 car and is for sure totaled. Thanks in advance.

    -Brandon
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... >>> "defendant oriented" with a definite bias to the insurance company... we often joke that if you were ambulanced into one of those exams directly from the wreck with blood gushing from an amputated finger, and the finger was found still stuck on the steering wheel, the IME (independent [HA!] medical exam) would determine that the accident happened at home...

    ..l.o.l... funny, but dead on the money...!

    A friend of mine was involved in a bad motorcycle accident a few years back, he was in the hospital for 51 days and had a vast array of doctors .. he was on a walker for 6 months and had to learn to speak again .... the insurance company made him go to their doctors for "their" evaluation .. the first one was a Pediatric doctor ..... get the drift.?



    Terry.
  • bobstbobst Member Posts: 1,776
    Brandon, I did a similar thing about 13 years ago. For some reason, I left my car (auto tranny) in neutral with no parking brake on. The parking lot was pretty flat, so the car did not roll when I got out of it. When I came out later, I found that my car had rolled into a lady's new Honda and ruined her door.

    I contacted her and told my insurance company (State farm). I got the body damage on my car fixed and I assume she got her car reapired. I don't know if my insurance went up or not.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    if your insurance goes up when they don't pay out on anything, you need a new insurance company.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • marsha7marsha7 Member Posts: 3,703
    Your insurance should cover it, as it was caused by a one car accident...your rates may go up, especially if your car was totalled...whether it comes from comprehensive or collision, I do not know (do not forget deductible)...

    But I always knew comprehensive as "fire, theft, and vandalism"...so, I would probably guess it would come from collision, as the damage was done by the (I can't help it :P :blush: ) COLLISION of your car with everything else...
  • manamalmanamal Member Posts: 426
    Comp is for accidents that can not control. For example, a meteor hits your car while it is parked. Collision are for things that were caused by negligence. Not putting the parking break on is neglagent. So, it should be collision (for your car), and liability for the porch. In fact, I would argue that the owner of the house should get an expert in to verify there is no damage to the house.

    If this sounds harsh, I aplologize. But, this is why we have insurance: to protect ourselves from ourselves.
  • jiazzijiazzi Member Posts: 3
    I'm planning to buy a new car within a week or so but I haven't had a car for almost a year now. Does the dealership insure your new car for a few days or do you have to purchase it for those few days before you obtain your own insurance?

    This is my first new car purchase so I have no idea how this process works.

    Thanks in advance!
  • bobstbobst Member Posts: 1,776
    Decide what kind of insurance you are going to use (State Farm, GEICO, USAA, etc) and ask them.
  • lilyowenlilyowen Member Posts: 125
    That's not 100% true -- check your policy for what is covered by comp and what is covered by collision.

    For instance, a vandalism would be covered by comp, yet obviously the vandal is negligent.

    A shopping cart in a parking lot that rolls into your vehicle would likely be a collision claim.

    Rock in the road -- collision
    Rock flying in the air -- comp.

    You see, negligence -- while a good rule of thumb, is not the sole decider of comp v. collision.

    This claim would be collision on your vehicle and pd on the house/deck/tree/grass/yard/anything else you struck along the way to the house.
  • lilyowenlilyowen Member Posts: 125
    Sorry, I should correct myself -- I may have spoke out of line when I said everything else would be covered under PD. Anything damaged due to your negligence with the auto -- and assuming that it is a covered auto -- MAY be covered under PD.

    If it's your trailer then you are SOL -- unless the trailer is covered by insurance as well. If it's your deck post you are SOL -- unless that is covered by homeowners. Anything you damage -- typically -- that belongs to you and is not another covered auto will likely not be covered by your auto insurance.

    Also, you rolled down a hill, into a trailer and then a house -- how much damage is that? How much coverage do you have? Those instances would be considered one accident -- if you have 10k of PD coverage you may be responsible for any damages in excess of 10k -- unless your carrier can negotiate a release from all damaged parties.
  • biniarisbiniaris Member Posts: 2
    thanks for all the help guys...i've made my claim and everything will be covered...everything. i have $50,000 property damage coverage so there won't be any problems. and i've found out my car may not be totaled :D the insurance guy said it wasn't nearly as bad as he thought.
  • marsha7marsha7 Member Posts: 3,703
    The vandal is NOT negligent...the vandal is malicious intentional destruction...
  • rs7rs7 Member Posts: 2
    My car was recently damaged in a collision. I was the middle car, and I received the one of the two tickets given. My question is concerned with repairs after the collision. Should you stick with the designated insurance repair shop? In this case, GEICO, has reccommended KOONS. I have a LS 400, and I have had negative first hand experiences with KOONS. I am suspect of a generic shop repairing my car. Therefore, I have opted to take my vehicle to the Lexus dealership and have it repaired. I am open to suggestions. :D
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Your car, your choice. In fact, you do not have to have it repaired. You can take the insurance check with the damaged car to a dealer & trade them in on another car. If you decide to repair your car, take it to the shop of your choice. No where in the contract of insurance does it say you lose control of choice of shops. ;)
  • marsha7marsha7 Member Posts: 3,703
    to go anywhere, but they can limit the amount they pay for repairs...if they can find an independent shop to fix your car for, say, $5,000, but the lexus dealer will fix it for $7,000, they only have to pay the $5K to have it fixed...if you want Lexus to fix it, you will have to pay the difference...

    For example, it is believed that Snake Farm contracts with local repair shops (some are quite good, BTW) and receives discounts for volume work...so, there is nothing wrong if SF can get your car fixed for $4K, whereas any other shop would charge $6K...a wise monetary saving for repairs that must be done, anyway...

    Another factor: used parts, new OEM parts, and new aftermarket parts...usually, if your car is two years old or less, the parts used will be OEM new...once the car breaks 2 years, they can use other makes of parts (cheaper) or used parts from a bone-yard (cheaper, still)...

    After all, it is hard to demand new OEM parts for fenders and hood when the car is 5 years old...fixing it means just that, fixing the damage...the car is well depreciated at 4 or 5 years old...
  • geodonnellgeodonnell Member Posts: 16
    rs7,

    If you're talking Koons, you're probably in the DC area. I used to live down there, and used a shop in Arlington that was very good and on State Farm's preferred list. It's called Spectrum Auto Body on Four Mile Run Road, a half mile off 395. If you're in the area, check and see if they're on GEICO's list too by chance, or if they'll do the work for GEICO's offer. They're very good and very helpful.
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