VW Touareg SUV

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  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    I can play CD-R's fine in my Audi, but if I use a CD-RW disc -- even if I have no intention of reusing it, it will not play.

    Alternately, although the CD-Rs for music are packaged differently than CD-Rs for data -- there does not appear to be any difference. I think the CD-r's for music include some kind of "royalty" since they are ostensibly to be used to make a single recording of a copywrited work (legitimately).
  • lejujulejuju Member Posts: 9
    per Spockcat answer in message 1766, it is basically possible to hook up ANY audio device, so in particular iPod,...

    However, while it will play the audio, one challenge is the control of it. The big advantage of the Phatbox now (as far as I understand it at least) is that you can control it from the radio and steering wheel controls.

    Not sure you will be able to do that from other devices. And not sure you want to be messing up with your ipod controls while driving to go to the next song or navigate your mp3s...

    lejuju
  • roweerowee Member Posts: 21
    I own a T-reg,and I love it on and offroad. But honestly I find it hard to except VW claim that the Range Rover is inferior to their SUV.
    And to ALL would be T-Reg shoppers; please read through recent posts on the B I G decision you have to make V-6 vs. V-8 Engines.
  • lejujulejuju Member Posts: 9
    per Spockcat answer in message 1766, it is basically possible to hook up ANY audio device, so in particular iPod,...

    However, while it will play the audio, one challenge is the control of it. The big advantage of the Phatbox now (as far as I understand it at least) is that you can control it from the radio and steering wheel controls.

    Not sure you will be able to do that from other devices. And not sure you want to be messing up with your ipod controls while driving to go to the next song or navigate your mp3s...

    lejuju
  • lejujulejuju Member Posts: 9
    Hello,

    I found out that the prices on the Edmunds web site for the Touareg (V8 at least) are incorrect. It is off by $2,000. The price on Edmunds is 40,700, but the real MSRP price (given by a delaership here and also carsdirect.com and other websites) is 42,640 since last July.

    How come Edmunds did not update the pricing since it changed more than 6 month ago?

    Hoping to get an answer this time (have been posting 5 relevant questions to this forum in the past week. Got no answers. Gee why is the Volvo XC90 forum so nice and Touareg so inactive?? Can't we have a vwmax like they have a volvomax?!)
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  • knockoffknockoff Member Posts: 72
    Prices are right-on from Edmunds for cars sitting on the lots right now and those delivered to several dealers in the last couple of weeks. I don't think July is when the increase takes place. One vehicle in my area with the $40,700 base MSRP has a VIN in the 41xxx.
  • woodberywoodbery Member Posts: 10
    "but the real MSRP price (given by a delaership here and also carsdirect.com and other websites) is 42,640 since last July."

    No, the price change was in January.
  • lejujulejuju Member Posts: 9
    "No, the price change was in January"

    "Prices are right-on from Edmunds for cars sitting on the lots right now and those delivered to several dealers in the last couple of weeks."

    Well, when I visited my dealer last week all but one of his available vehicles were on the new pricing. I guess it depends on the dealers activity.

    Vehicles that are delivered today have been ordered 3-4 months ago. But if you custom order today, the new price will be applied. And,in my case, the vast majority of today's available vehicle were already with the new price.

    In any case, I still think that the new price with an indication of when it exactly changed would be relevant information on the Edmunds web sites. Most other car websites I checked have upgraded the price already.

    And my consumer experience is that I have been asked the new price for a purchase today.... hence having a bad surprise after using Edmunds as a reference. I am just guessing and warning it could be other's experience too.

    lejuju
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    a Touareg was "Invoiced" to the Dealer after January 5th; it carries the price bump...Unless it was a Customer Order...We completed a form with customer name & VIN...These were price protected...
  • uga2uga2 Member Posts: 2
    Ready to buy the Touareg. Thinking about waiting on waiting for the 2005 Touareg?? Driven the vehicle multiple times and love it, dealer in Atlanta claims he has had no major problems with any of his Touaregs that have been sold.
    Any advice that could sway me either way.....
  • ypshanypshan Member Posts: 103
    I am waiting on the 2005 and see if it has a DVD based NAV. It's hard to imagine why VW would put a CD based NAV in such a nice truck.

    It'd also be nice to have the air conditioned front seat that VW has.
  • major7major7 Member Posts: 31
    Hello, all, (fyi)it is impossible to find a V8 Touareg with a White or Gray exterior and Teak interior with Air Suspension, Nav, Bi-Xenon headlights, Winter and/or Parking Assist. V8's with Air Suspension tough to find in general and with Teak interior forget it. Bob
  • elemintelemint Member Posts: 79
    Here is what you do. Go to deal and say, I want to order a treg with x,y, and z... Its not that hard.
  • spockcatspockcat Member Posts: 100
    While the teak interior looks good now, I think this interior will get old real fast and may even hurt the car's resale value. Go for the anthracite or crystal gray.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    . . .if you want it "your way," ordering is THE only way to buy a car. If you have several combinations and/or permutations that will be OK, well then go ahead and buy from inventory or the "shared" inventory between dealers.

    My wife and I have ordered every Audi and Volkswagen we have ever purchased (which, including the VW's is about 30 cars since 1978). Ordering and waiting and taking delivery extends the fun part of getting a new car.

    We're certain that VW/Audi of America want "mo inventory" at their dealers, but I would have no problem if the only inventory on hand at a dealership was the demo fleet. It appears that most Porsches are special ordered, and my Audi+Porsche dealer orders a boatload of Audis every year, specifically for customers like my wife and me.

    Ordering -- the only way to BUY or LEASE, from our perspective. But then, we have almost without exception, never been able get exactly the combination of colors and options we wanted. And, once you blow through $40K for a vehicle, it just seems you ought to get exactly what you want.

    My wife, for example, wanted metallic green exterior, light grey interior, leather, satellite navigation, upgraded 18" wheels AND alcantara covered steering wheel.

    All were "legal" and possible options. We have, to this day, not seen both alcantara covered steering wheel and sat nav in a 225HP Audi TT coupe (except in my wife's 2003 TT)!

    The Touareg option sheet looks pretty cool -- visit the configurator -- why not order one and wait 3 or 4 months and get exactly what you want?

    If you wait about 2 months, you can probably order a 2005 (which will give you access to the 2005 features and options sheet).

    Ordering is simple, sublime and fun.

    IMHO it makes for happier customers.
  • elemintelemint Member Posts: 79
    OMG! What do you do for a living? How big is your family? How many miles do you drive a year??? I have had 4 cars since 1985 and thought that was a lot!
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    . . .now before you go too far out, this number of cars is the combined number for my wife and me, not me personally. Depending upon your method of subtraction/addition, this time spans 25 to 26 years. We generally acquire new cars at least every other year which in a perfect world would be 26 cars.

    A couple of times we had three at once, a couple of times we bought cars two years in a row rather than skipping a model. One or two cars we only kept 6 months.

    We have no kids. We like German cars, European travel and fine dining.

    My wife's an attorney and I am an IT consultant -- which USED to be lucrative. Perhaps once the economy is in sustained rebound. . .well you figure it out.

    I attended a "thank you" party thrown by Audi in St. Moritz and there were 25 folks from North America there. Several of the people had had two or three times as many Audis (and VW's and one BMW 325ix) as my wife and I have had. We weren't even in the Bronze category of car ownership.

    Other than cars and some travel, we hardly have a rich and famous lifestyle.

    There: TMI!
  • jalegrantijalegranti Member Posts: 6
    Does anyone know if VW is planning to build a 6-cyl Turbo(gasoline)version of the Touareg???

    The company has a lot of experience with turbo engines, so it shouldn't be much of stretch. Here at high altitude (Colorado) turbo engines are far superior to non-turbos because they minimize horsepower loss from the thin air - a real consideration when trying to pass at 9,000+ feet above sea-level with 2-4 people and their gear in the car. Audi's bi-turbo 6-cyl engine used in the Allroad is a perfect engine for high-elevation ...more actual HP than a normally-aspirated V8 at altitude, and better gas mileage to boot.

    I'm very interested in buying a Touareg as my next car, but I'm hoping to see them produce the 6-cyl turbo like the Allroad or the Cayenne. Has anyone heard of VW plans for this? Or have suggestions where I could get a good answer?
    Thanks!

    -Jon
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    known as the 2.7T will be discontinued on week 21 of 2005. It may continue on in a VW, but I doubt it.

    Audi/VW seem to be hell bent on moving to entirely 100% normally aspirated engines (perhaps with a few exceptions).

    Conversely, I read that the W8, too, will be discontinued and that the 3.2 MAY be turbo charged sometime in its life and be placed into the up scale Passat or in bewteen the Passat and Phaeton.

    Turbo in a Touareg -- based on what I have read there will be a turbo -- diesel placed in a Touareg.

    Rumors and half truths are free flowing -- I do believe that the TDI Touareg IS real!
  • thor8thor8 Member Posts: 303
    Mark, you sound like me in some ways, that many cars don’t sound that bad for those years, since 1970 I had a small fleet of cars , in the beginning I bought and traded cars countless of times, first cheap used cars, then better used, then economy new, for the last years new cars, all German made. Right now we have half a dozen, all representatives of the major brands, my wife drives her Passat as a daily car and I drive my 12 year old GMC pickup as a daily vehicle. The rest of the cars seat in the carport and are used for the, how should I put it, occasion? Sports car if the wife and I decide to go touring, SUV if going to the beach or mountains, sedan for traveling.
    The hardest part of it is the insurance, I always joke seriously to my agent, but I only can drive one car at the time!
    We used to travel to Europe a lot and the Caribbean for Sun and clear water but now days the hassle of getting on a plane is not worth it to me. Now we dedicate ourselves to travel by car to the scenic places of North America and here is where the payoff of a German car is, the sweet handling, the joy of driving that no other can match, whether is an SUV or sports car or sedan.
    We are getting in our middle age and like the old saying goes, Life is short and time is a thief, so no jet set life style here, our biggest indulgence touring.
    Right now the only switch I will consider is my ML for a V10 diesel Treg other than that I am perfectly happy with the ML.
  • major7major7 Member Posts: 31
    For those who are extremely familiar with the V8 Touareg or Touareg's in general, possibly you could answer a few questions for me as I am a new owner of a V8 Touareg since yesterday, Premium Plus, Winter and Parking Assist, etc.

    1- With the center differential locked 50-50 front to rear what is the max speed allowed under theses circumstances? I read 25 mph like when going uphill in snow e.g., but have seen conflicting answers on this.

    2- In the Touareg manual it shows if you have the Convenience Pkg. which I do, that you can walk away and it will lock by itself. Is this possible? Also says you can walk away and it will lock as well???

    3-Last of all the manual says with keyless access you can just walk up to open the door which does work, but the confusing part is it also says you can start it without using the key! This I have not figured out.

    Can anyone help me out with these 3 questions? Thx. Bob
  • major7major7 Member Posts: 31
    I read 39 psi for the front and 45 psi for the back inside the door on the sticker. Is this typically what V8 Touareg owners are putting in their Continental tires or less air? Please let me know. Thx Bob
  • tregownertregowner Member Posts: 26
    While I have to admit that I haven't paid much attention to this over the past 6 months, it appears that the information at the bottom of the radio has a mind of its own. I have noticed that some of the stations in my (major metropolitan) area display the callsign, but that's about it. I didn't gone it much though until the other day, when one of my kids noticed that the station she was listening to also had the artist/song/album scroll across the display. It did it for mist of the day, and then quit the following day. I find no information in the manual, and can't figure out if it has to do with signal strength (or some form of multipath cancelling it out), or I have some odd intermittent. Is this something that the stations do on occasion? I'll admit that I don't really care, but it is a maddening to know that its in there somewhere. What is really driving me nuts, however, is my kid's constant twisting of the tuner to find a station that is displaying the info! Maybe the answer is to banish her to the back seat. In all seriousness, however, has anyone else experienced the on and off again status of this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
  • spockcatspockcat Member Posts: 100
    This info is called RDS. Not all stations broadcast it. So perhaps you were listening to a different station. Clear Channel stations seem to be the biggest user of it.
  • brian211brian211 Member Posts: 69
    I'm considering a Touareg. Never owned a vw. I'd like to know whether you are happy with the vehicle and would buy again. Or have there been problems? How does this vehicle compare to the competition? Thanks.
  • tregownertregowner Member Posts: 26
    Thanks. However, my question is with the seemingly intermittent nature of the stations that I know broadcast RDS. For example, I sometimes get a callsign, sometimes get nothing, and then the other day received all of the information. I was wondering if others have experienced the same thing. Is it my radio, the station not continuously broadcasting RDS, reception parameters, or......?
  • spockcatspockcat Member Posts: 100
    If you are not switching stations and get it intermittantly on just one station, then call the station and ask them. They may be able to shed some light on the reason for the intermittant nature.
  • woodberywoodbery Member Posts: 10
    The same thing happens to me, I think the disk jockey is responsible for entering it into the system and so are more conscientious than others.

    Herbert
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,787
    my mothers' malibu has the same feature. it seems to vary by song!
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • touheadtouhead Member Posts: 6
    I am interested in who out there is taking the years best Off Road vehicle off the road. I took mine out last week on a thirty mile jaunt in the back country off our local mountains and had a blast. The Touareg preformed marvelously. Climbed cleared and waded through all that it crossed.
     I would love to know other peoples experiences, and what consideration you have given to different tires. The tires that came with the car are the weakest part of its capabilities for sure.
  • spockcatspockcat Member Posts: 100
    For thos non-believers, a V10 TDI has been delivered in the US. First one I've heard of:

    http://www.think-inc.com/v10_tdi.html
  • 4x4buff4x4buff Member Posts: 12
    This Touareg has full-size spare wheel mounted in a case at the tail-gate. It has side board runners for safety.

    The site is VW main site and it is in German but you can see the pictures on Page 10 of PDF document which is catalog for Touareg

    Follow these steps:
    Step 1] Go to following site
    http://showrooms.volkswagen.de/touareg/

    Step 2] Under "Zahlen & Fakten" , click on Infomaterial

    Step 3] Choose "Katlog" from combo box and hit
    "Anzeigen" and download the PDF document. Go to page 10 and you'll see the photos.

    This could be V8X and these options are currently available in Australia , hope it makes it to US shores.

    I am glad at least one Touareg owner "Touhead" was not a wimp and actually took his Touareg Off-road. Most owners would have coronary at the thought of it!
    :)

    For starters, during Off-road tests in Moab, Utah, Touareg could tackle obstacles successfully which Hummer H2 failed to do. Touareg handles close to BMW X5 on road which makes Touareg a really unique vehicle.
  • gcampellgcampell Member Posts: 1
    I am taking my Tourareg back for the 3rd time on a problem with acceleration hesitation and sometimes outright "bogging" down that has not yet been corrected. The problem occurs when pressing the accelerator from a stop of slow roll (i.e. when in 1st or 2nd gear.) Usually a 1/2 to 1 second delay occurs from the time you press on the gas to the time the engine or transmission engages. This often times results in a lunge of the car. At times there is a complete failure as the gas is completely depress and the car does not respond. (I have not been able to demonstrate this to the dealer, yet as it occurs infrequently but does occur) VW Tourareg "Customer Service" has verbally acknowledged this condition but offers no solution. I am considering invoking the Lemon Law. I am sure that this is not an isolated problem as I have talked to one other owner briefly who said they experienced the same problem. ALSO, I have experienced with the V8 only 9-10 MPG in city. If anyone else has experienced this or has resolved any of these issues, a reply would be appreciated.

    P.S. I have had other problems but the above are the most severe.
  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    The Passat has/had a logic bug which caused very similar hesitation. The solution on that board (I haven't checked since we passed on getting a passat 2 years ago) was to disconnect the battery and reset the ECU. Apparently the way it learned your driving techniques would make it progressively get worse...resetting the computer would alleviate it for another 2500 or so miles.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    you can also reset the computer by turning the key to the "on" position, not starting the car, putting the car in D and pressing the accelerator pedal to the floor (once or twice).

    Then put the gear back to park turn off the key and start up as normal.

    This is a very common 5spd tiptronic Audi problem.

    The other solution appears to be to fully bring the car to a stop and then from a full dead stop "punch" the accelerator to the floor (be aware of safety, of course). The transmission will then begin to learn a more sporty attitude.

    When it worked, my Audi tiptronics were great (except that they suck the power out of a good V8). I learned to compensate.

    One shouldn't have to.

    I had three Audi cars with 4.2 V8 engines -- they all had automatics. They all did the "tip-lag" thing.

    I know my friend's Acura with an automatic does the same thing. I assume that BMW's and Mercedes do too.

    I hope the other cars do, for if they don't and the Audis and VW's do, I would think "bad things" will happen to Audi & VW's sales.

    Please -- VW & Audi -- offer manual transmissions on your products -- I promise I will continue to buy them. And, I suspect others will too!
  • spockcatspockcat Member Posts: 100
    This is old news for the Touareg. VW issued a TSB on this back on June 27, 2003 (Group: 97 Number: 03/01). It only affected a small number of Touaregs in the USA.

    I don't understand why Porsche is only getting around to this 9 months later?
  • lee1000lee1000 Member Posts: 10
    I, too, had the same problem. I took my Toureg in on three occasions and during the last visit I drove with the service tech. It seems that I have the habit of driving with two feet, using the brake and the accelerator at the same time for fine control in situations like exiting parking lots onto a busy street. It seems that the way the drive-by-wire system is designed on Volkswagons whenever you touch the brake a stop notice is sent to the engine to help in braking. That is wonderful unless you happen to be exiting a parking lot while going down an incline and turning. In such a case, if you have your foot on the brake, even slightly, as you begin to accelerate, nothing...and I mean nothing.. happens. I finally changed my driving habit, so that I make sure that my foot is off of the brake before accelerating...and guess what...no stalls. I still do not like it, but at least I do not worry about getting run over. They really need to address this and change the programming. Good luck!
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    How does one drive with 2 feet? I have tried and just don't see how anyone can drive like that. Also, I would think it's a good way to wear down the brake pads.

    I am glad you figured out what the problem was.
  • lee1000lee1000 Member Posts: 10
    Actually one only uses both feet when in very low speed situations where very fine control is desired, like exiting sloping parking lots, etc. I guess it is especially easy for us old-timers who grew up using a clutch. It gives far better control than you can obtain single-footed. I suppose if you kept your foot on the brake for any significant distance there might be a brake problem, but usually it is for very limited distance and very light pressures on the brake.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    . . .system was taught as the so-called "Michigan System" when I took driver's ed in the late 1960's (I am now the ripe old age of 52).

    When I drive an automatic transmission car, I use the right foot for go and the left for stop.

    The THEORY was you could cut about 44' off of your stopping distance (@ 60MPH x .5 seconds, as @ 60MPH you are travelling 88 feet per second).

    I have a stick shift now, as does my wife, so we use the Audi driving school method which they called the Bruce Lee system (for panic stopping) which means apply (push) both the brake and the clutch as hard as possible but lead with the brake foot by a fraction of a second to minimize the stopping distances and to prevent the engine from stalling.

    To this day, I still use -- automatically -- my left foot on the brake in automatic equipped cars (which I generally avoid). Is this a problem?
  • spockcatspockcat Member Posts: 100
    In a DBW - Drive by Wire - world this is a problem. I've never had any control problems with just using one foot in an auto and two in a standard.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    . . .if one would "rest" his/her foot on the brake pedal while driving -- thus "confusing" the transmission and the computer.

    I do not advocate using the brake pedal as a foot rest. And, I have no clue if left foot braking is being "taught" as an option anywhere anymore.

    Considering the dearth and death of stick shifts, it would seem possible for a left foot braking to be taught yet, still.
  • tregownertregowner Member Posts: 26
    UGH....nothing I hate worse than being behind someone who is accelerating with the brake lights on. You never know what they are going to do (other than wear out the brake pads pretty quickly). I have raced lots of cars, and there is the tool of sliding your foot between the gas and the brake pedal, while leaving the other on the clutch, to be able to shift/accelerate/brake rapidly. (In fact, early VW's had a roller for the gas pedal, which was an outgrowth of this concept). But, for everyday driving, I don't think any of these are useful tools. Especially in a panic situation, where you might forget which pedal to depress.....although the DBW seems to make you stop no matter what.
  • onlysurferonlysurfer Member Posts: 96
    Since most cars these days are "drive-by-wire", why don't automakers put these two functions under one pedal? Toes to accelerate and heels to break! Would save those 0.5 seconds and 44 feet, means thousands of accidents.

    Automakers would be, however, concerned about legal matters. It is said that car can be easily equipped without a steering wheel. A simple joy stick could propel, turn and break the car but people will have to get used to such a system of driving. Removing steering wheel will also save thousands in accidents.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Sounds like incentives are coming:

    Volkswagen abandons the high road, ratchets up the deals (Channel News Asia)

    Steve, Host
  • okg0okg0 Member Posts: 7
    Does anyone know if there are any planned improvements or new feaures on the 2005 Touareg models? Like an improved NAV system?
  • mike3mike3 Member Posts: 1
    I'm very interested in purchasing a VW Tourage. I two a 22ft SeaRay Bowrider that weighs approx 4200lbs (an addition 1500lbs for the trailer). I've read a couple of really good reviews about the Touareg's towing capabilities but both of towing tests were conducted on vehicles with the adjustable suspension. I don't think I want the adjustable suspension so I was wondering if any body has any experiences to share on how the vehicle the standard suspension handles when towing heavy loads.
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