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Here's my other post, copied and pasted...
I wanted a cheap afford able car for commuting.I am a Toyota Fan, means Corolla was the choice.
I like the Matrix for the usability of fold down etc - but this was too steep at an extra $2000+
Things that changed my mind - 1) $2000 from GM.2) $1050 off the MSRP (about $350 over Edmunds invoice of $18602, but about $50 over the dealer invoice at the place, which included advertising cost and some other BS which total about $300)3) $700 discount on options pkg, listed on sticker.
MSRP was $20005.I will pay $18550.
Base Vibe with:Auto TrannyMoons and TunesPower pkg6 CD changerAluminum wheelsSide Air Bags
They're adding in wheel locks and cargo net gratis.
Working backwards:$20550 - $2000 cash rebate= $18550.
Starting from $20550 - - $299 doc fee (here's their profit!!)- $159 tags, reg etc (I get back balance)$20092 - 6% tax = $18954.71
Use $18954 for reference as to my price paid before Tax, Title Doc etc.Tax in my state is calculated on the $2000 cash as well.
A previous deal was $900 under MSRP of $19100.(no al wheels and CD changer) But that car had 150 miles. We checked after the price was set.
Note also GM increase prices recently. Base is up $25, option pkgs up $25 each; Al wheels $40 increase. Edmunds reflects new pricing. Older priced cars are still around - not sure when increase happened.
If you've read this far, try this site - http://www.gmbuypower.com.
Test drive for yourself. Car and Driver comparo rated this 5th out of 6, not too good, in April(?), 2002 issue.Seats were an issue to them.
My thoughts - a little under power, but so what.Good overall for the next 15 years.
Also, note the $2000 off the reference $18954 above.
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