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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    GM helped them at first. I remember when the current 9-3 came out, I found it handsome, and they made record sales.

    That was a LOOOOONG time ago, however, and it has not been updated since.

    Isn't that GM's M. O.? Let vehicles age until they die a natural death?
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    The dual range transmission has a reduction of about 20% on the lower range and you can shift on the fly. The usual conditions apply that you try and do it with wheels straight ahead and backed off from throttle so drivetrain load is minimised.

    The slight gearing reduction was very good for towing heavier weights, particularly uphill or when backing. I also found it useful in dirt and mud where low second was often useful.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Thanks Graham. I sure wish it was still offered here. SOA dropped it about a decade or so ago from US-spec models. :(

    Bob
  • morin2morin2 Member Posts: 399
    How timely - I just got back in the house after helping a county contractor tow truck driver get unstuck from my front yard. I didn't pull him out with one of my subarus though. Wonder who's going to fix 30' of up to 2' deep ruts in my yard (guess I know its me...).

    There must be a test for plow operators in MD - and those who fail get hired.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I saw a lot of trucks that spun out on exit ramps. A Jeep GC and Explorer collided on an exit near Fairfax, VA, on the DC beltway, for instance.

    Overconfidence is a big factor. They drive faster, take an exit that has ice, and lose it. Hope they weren't hurt. :sick:
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    It's an impressive video but keep a couple of things in mind:

    It's Europe so I'm sure the Subie had snow tires as they are typically required there

    It looks like the Subie provided some extra traction - I don't think it actually pulled the truck. You can hear the truck changing gears as it's moving. Loaded, the truck weighs 80,000 lbs.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    For sure but it's funny that he even tried. Even funnier that it was enough to make the difference between stuck and unstuck. :D
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    20" of snow here in Alexandria. I think I converted a couple of neighbors after they saw me driving around in the Forester, easily negotiating conditions that would stop a lesser vehicle :shades:

    -Frank
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They plowed my street about a day later, but the side street behind me took 2 days. So we still had a little snow to play around with.

    Took my son sledding with a little buddy of his, and his mom got their Honda Ody stuck. To be fair they live at the top of a long, steep uphill climb.

    I picked him up when we went again on Monday, as she didn't want to take any chances. :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    LOL at the way they advertised it there. :D

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    That's pretty ba-ha-ha-ha-had.
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    Not surprised. The Detroiters are quickly looking to end partnerships with the Japanese... NUMMI is history, Ford dumped their majority ownership of Mazda, Chrysler has all but put a bow on what's left of its long relationship with Mitsubishi and killed the Nissan joint ventures before they started.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Not many nice things to say about it:

    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f1c530a/341#MSG341

    You'd have to be legally insane to buy one of these over a base Miata, especially given Mazda's incentives put pricing fairly close.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I say walk-around because I didn't drive it, though I did check it out closely, since I was already at the Smart dealership next door. Plus Frank has one so I was curious.

    $42k sticker for a GLK 350 with the package that includes heated seats and a power hatch, and iPod adapator a-la-carte. Subaru needs to offer that, at least on the Tribeca, and maybe the OB Ltd and F-XT Ltd, too.

    The lease deal they had was $479 for that model, FWIW.

    Very nice inside. I like the perforated leather, always have, as it "breathes". The carpets are plush and look and feel like they're made from real wool (probably are). The plastics are all padded, more so than even the Mercedes C-class, which I compared back-to-back. Above and below the glove box, you get soft touch trim. The glove box has a nice velvety lining, too.

    They wrap the A-, B-, and C-pillars in a nice fabric that matches the headliner, which itself is padded and fabric-covered. You see where the extra cost goes almost everywhere you look.

    In the trunk area, again you have nice finishes. Plus wool carpets not only reach the edge, but wrap around all the seams. The bumper cover wraps over the edge, so the bumper lip is protected.

    The wood trim inside is real wood, and convincingly so.

    19" rims were bigger than expected, too.

    The twin moonroof reminds me of the Forester's. Total size is similar, but Benz seperates them. Not sure which I prefer, but I love 'em both.

    Twin exhausts, also like the Forester.

    Love the power seat controls that are a Mercedes trademark. Others should just pay them a licenseing fee and copy those.

    Dislikes? Seems a bit small, probably a tad smaller than our Forester, for both passengers and cargo. The armrest cover looks like vinyl to me, not quite matching the seat leather, plus it could be more padded. Nit pick. I'm still not crazy about the styling, sort of bulldog-ish to me, but that's subjective.

    I think if Subaru does another Tribeca, they should take a look at what Mercedes offers for about $40 grand, even if it is smaller. It's a clear step up from the brands that aspire to go upscale, and perhaps offers a benchmark of what they should do to get there (not just Subaru).
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    I like the perforated leather

    I like it too but it's not leather. It's MB Tex premium vinyl upholstery. Mercedes has used it for years and the only way you can tell it's not leather is it lacks leather's distinctive smell. It's so nice in fact that most buyers see no reason to pay $1,250 extra for the real thing.

    Dislikes? Seems a bit small, probably a tad smaller than our Forester, for both passengers and cargo

    You're right. Compared to my previous gen Forester, the passenger space is a bit larger while the cargo area is slightly smaller. But the GLK isn't marketed as a people or cargo hauler (MB has several other larger SUVs to meet those needs), it's actually aimed towards people who want to downsize from their current luxury large SUV.

    -Frank
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Frank, how do you like the GLK, now that you've had it a while?

    Is there any way to (reasonably) compare it to a current Forester, knowing full well it is like comparing apples to oranges, at least in terms of customers? Do you ever see the GLK being cross-shopped with top-of-the-line Foresters, even a little bit?

    Bob
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Subaru deserves kudos for increasing sales volume and more than doubling market share during a period when many other makes were losing ground in one or both areas.

    -Frank
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Frank, how do you like the GLK, now that you've had it a while?

    We're pretty happy with it. It's solidly built, a pleasure to drive and instills confidence that it can easily handle most situations. Gas mileage isn't anything to brag about but we knew that going in. I'm not familiar enough with the new Forester to compare the two. However, compared to the last gen Forester, the GLK is as quiet as a church on the hwy and obviously has a much nicer interior. Of course it's not as fun to drive as my manual F-XT and certainly not as tossable but it's a good vehicle for Laura to commute into downtown DC in.

    -Frank
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Indeed, I had no idea it wasn't real leather. Very high quality stuff, arguably better than the leather in my neighbor's Acura MDX.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Subaru made the top 10, just eeking by VW.

    From 24th to 10th! :shades:
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    ...voted UK's top program of the decade.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1238374/Top-Gear-takes-decades-acco- lade.html#ixzz0azqYPAPA

    I watch it on BBC America whenever I can; even got a book and T-shirt on Top Gear for Christmas!

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It is a funny show. I think it works precisely because it is *NOT* politically correct. They're actually allowed to express negative opinions, and of course hyperbole like nobody's business.

    BTW, I am the Stig. ;)

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  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    It is—without a doubt—the best car show ever!

    Yeah, it might make you cringe every now and then, but everything about the show is incredibly well done.

    Most important, every time I watch that show—I learn something interesting. Seriously, I can't think of one TG show that I've seen in which I didn't learn something new and/or fascinating about some vehicle that they've tested. Besides that, and the incredible stunts/stories, and gorgeous photography, and the obsessive attention paid to even the minutest detail—it's funny as hell. :)

    Did you see the one shown this weekend of them driving to the North Pole? ...With Jezza taking Captain Slow for a ride on the Hiluxe's "Bumper Dumper"? It was hilarious! :)

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yes and I laughed hysterically just as you did. Especially when he almost drove off while it was in use. Twice. :D

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I disagree with lots of that...

    Lutz it too old to start over at Chrysler.

    No way, no how will Toyota give up on the Tundra.

    unemployed Mercury spokes-babe Jill Wagner will become the next Mrs. The Mechanic

    At least he makes gutsy predictions. :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I had no idea the Insight was doing so badly. Yikes.

    I sorta liked the idea of the poor man's hybrid, but I agree the execution was off. The back seat was too small, for starters.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    This is Aston Martin's way of keeping the brand from being de-valued by this pricy Toyota iQ derivative.

    http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/28/aston-martin-cygnet-available-only-to- - -aston-owners/

    There are no plans to sell it in the USA.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The interior actually looks great but the $35,000 price makes me choke on my caviar. :D
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Doesn't matter. You don't "qualify" to buy one. :)

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Truth. I have always liked the DB9. :shades:
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,911
    Isn't Michael Jordan driving an Aston convertible in those cheesy Hanes commercials with Charlie Sheen?

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  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Member Posts: 1,798
    ...Is running around 2 - 3 inches as I type this. All major freeways are parking lots, snarled with traffic jammed up 10 - 20 miles in all directions.

    I got home on the back roads - a 15 mile drive that had me passing 20 cars and assorted busses and trucks that had spun or slid off the road in various places. There didn't seem to be any Subarus among them. :-)

    On one moderate hill a RWD car was spinning its tires uselessly. Surprisingly my '09 Forester with Nokian WRG2's could accelerate up the same hill without the VDC light coming on.
    I had to be careful on slush or wet ice as "White Fang" (name of my Forester) will oversteer if accelerated hard.

    There were other cars moving around OK in this bad weather. But it's surprising that Portland OR folks were not better prepared for this, given the worse snow we had last year.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    will oversteer if accelerated hard

    That's what makes it so fun. :D

    You should see here in MD. We got 18" or so, more in some places, and people just abandon their cars on the side of the road.

    Our last real blizzard was in 2003, so people never get enough experience driving in the snow. They freak out, and either get stuck or just give up and walk home. It's crazy.

    On my street a 626 and a Corolla got stuck. They had *NO* business being out in that much snow. Not to mention they blocked the plows. I helped dig the 626 out and made him promise he would park it immediately.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    I rather fancy the Toyota IQ but it is not yet sold in Australia. At some point in the next year or two, I need to buy a small hatch, but intend to retain the Toyota Kluger. My daughter had her first driving lesson yesterday and I want a manual two door but with lots of safety features. The IQ has those.

    The retrimming of an IQ as an Aston Martin is interesting. A lot of British folk have several flash cars in their garage but drive a hatchback or similar to the station to commute to London (Their Intercity trains travel at 125 to 140mph so it is convenient to live a long way out of town and commute).

    It would make sense to own something like the IQ for that run to the station, although I still think it would be thief bait as much as leaving an Aston Vantage would be.

    A mate is an Aston, Bentley and Rolls expert and I have recently seen more quality metal lying around his workshop than you would normally expect to see in years. Very interesting stuff.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    One of my day-job co-workers is in Portland... he said it's a royal mess since Portland does not keep plow equipment and they have to wait for it to arrive from elsewhere.

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Isn't Michael Jordan driving an Aston convertible in those cheesy Hanes commercials with Charlie Sheen?

    I thought it was a Bentley.

    -Frank
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Frank, how do you like the GLK, now that you've had it a while?

    Just back from a 6-day road trip in the GLK. I must say it's a great vehicle for driving long distances at highway speeds. Even at 75mph, road, engine & wind noise were all nicely muted while rough roads, expansion joints, etc. flew by without notice. In fact, at one point I puzzled why other drivers kept moving over to the left lane when both lanes were empty. It took a while for me to figure out that it because the right lane was so rough. In the GLK I hadn't even noticed but in the Forester I almost certainly would have joined the crowd in the left lane.

    As a bonus, while Laura was driving, I had the opportunity to reread the voluminous owner's manuals and learned several new things the GLK could do. For instance, the driver's seat has a power (up&down) headrest but I also discovered that you can adjust the tilt angle of both headrests making them much more comfortable :)

    -Frank
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Who would you pick as "Automobile Person of the Year?"

    Sylvia, "Who would you name as Automotive Person of the Year for 2009?" #1, 14 Dec 2009 7:31 am

    Some say Mulally from Ford, but I say Obama. Without him GM and Chrysler would be dead and buried.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    The car has rear suicide rear doors, which supposedly offer better rear passenger entry/exit with small vehicles like this.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/05/geneva-preview-opel-releases-next-gen-meriva-- mpv-with-rear-hing/

    I also like the styling. Wonder if it will come over here badged as a Buick?

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    They sold 216,652 vehicles, an increase of 15 percent from 2008, surpassing the previous 2006 record of 200,703 vehicles. They also set a sales record for December. Last month, Subaru sold 23,074 vehicles, up 33 percent from 17,287 sold in December 2008.

    http://www.autoobserver.com/2010/01/in-dismal-year-subaru-sets-new-sales-records- - .html

    http://media.subaru.com/index.php?s=43&item=137

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Obama or the CEOs of Hyundai or Subaru, the only brands to thrive in this economy.
  • txmicktxmick Member Posts: 2
    Just last month (December 09) I purchased a 3.6R limited 2010 outback and a 2009 Pontiac G8 V6 sedan. I know these vehicles were not designed to compete with each other, you can't help to compare.
    Both have 256 hp 6 cylinder engines, the Outback is much quieter and seems to be just as fast, the G8 may handle a little better but not that much better. The Harmon Cardin stereo i (440 watts) is far superior to the Blueatik (230 watt) and the overall soundness of the doors and interior is much better on the Outback. I think the G8 has great exterior styling and I did get it for much less money than the loaded Outback. The Outback is my wives and the G8 is mine I'm jealous at this point.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    My sister-in-law's family owns the old Meriva, which is sold in Brazil. This new one sure is more exciting. The old one was a dull appliance.

    That said, it's a very small car, smaller than a Mazda5 or Kia Rondo, which are already borderline too small for the USA.

    Apply that design language to the bigger Zafira and sell that in the USA. It could compete with the Dodge Journey.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    AN reported the same thing:

    Subaru had a 33 percent gain last month, pushing its industry-leading advance for the year to 15 percent

    Now the question is, when sales pick up, can Subaru maintain its market share? If so they stand to gain even more sales.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Congrats on both purchases, pretty sweet fleet you got there!
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