Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)

qbrozen

You like the interior? really? I think it looks rather cheap. And those guages? Good grief I hope those don't make it to production. They look like they were ripped right out of my '79 CJ7 or my mom's '80 Chevy van. A bit of retro on the outside is ok, but I like a modern interior. However, hints of retro on the inside are ok, as long as they have a modern flair. Take that steering wheel, for instance, that is the same shape as my '66 Stang, but is much fatter (the original was brutally thin and tough to hang onto) and looks much more comfortable and inviting. so it only reminds you of the old stang but isn't right out of the old stang like those guages.

andys120

which is fine, t' each, his own. OTOH I'd agree with those who say the exterior looks good but the interior not so much.

Those leopard spots are pretty good at disguising the actual shape of the roofline. There seems to be a '66 GT-350 style rear window cut into the C-pillar which I'd like.

A convertible will give you all the visibility you want, at least on nice days.

3point1v6

arent those interior gauges the same as the ones on the current mach 1's?

superlemonboy

I'm 20 rite now and I'm debating whether or not to purchase a V6 Convertible.....my major concerns are reliability and safety.

I've heard some scary stories like Fords exploding due to the rear gastanks in crashes.....this is one of the bigger concerns because over 20 years ago I lost my brother in a car crash my parents were in when they had a ford and the ford ending up exploding due to a rearend crash and the placement of the gas tank.

I definately thought they would of changed this problem by now but I still hear stories.

I would honestly probably wait until the 05 Mustang is released before making my decision. What do you guys think? Realible? Safe?

john_324

First, my condolences on your loss...I can certainly understand your concerns here.

Unfortunately, the gas tank is still outside the frame in the back. So yes, there is still that risk. Ford Crown Vics (Panther platform) have the same problem...

However, the Mustang tends to do very well in front and side collisions I believe.

Reliability is good...the 3.8 V6 seems to finally have all the big issues ironed out (i.e. no more head gasket failures), so it'll go the distance. Overall Mustang quality (in my exp.) is good but not great, and it's usually the little things that have problems.

I'd say get one if you like the current ones...the V6 models are already a great deal, and with the approach of the new design, they'll probably get cheaper still.

Just my thoughts.

John

john_324

I like it. We have to remember that average auto buyers are a conservative folk, and don't want radical change in their designs.

Interior looks sharp...though I bet the bright chrome trim gets toned down if Ford's smart(reflections can be very nasty with that kind of thing)

I do note that the "4x4" look remains...thanks Ford ; )

John

fdthird

As the owner of a 2000 3.8 convert I'd say a definite yes!

pinetted

Got mine this weekend. Ok its only 1:18 scale but I think the new Mustang looks great in and out. Lets just hope it doesn't have any new model problems.

superlemonboy

Thanks for your response......I definately need some more positive feedback to fully confrim my decision....I just wish that the gastank wasnt placed there tho. I am hopeful that the '05 V6 Mustang will be even better and secure than this years

revdrluv

I'd wait for the '05. It should be an improvement over the current model in a large way. Ford is also projected to up the power output of the V6 model. Plus it seems like it's going to be a looker (at least until everyone and their grandma has one, but for a little while it will be hot)

sphinx99

What's your current car?

Where do you drive, how often, how far?

Are you working or are you in school or ... ?

The reason I ask is that if I were in your shoes I'd seriously be thinking about how the above questions affect whether to buy now or wait for the redesign.

For example -

If I were a student without too much $ or with big loans, who already has a decent car that has some life left in it, and doesn't drive much, I'd stick with what I had until I had a shot at a '05.

On the other hand, if I were a recent grad with a decent job lined up, who drives 50 miles a day to work and back, then all over the place with friends, and I was driving a rental car at $30 a day because my old car just died... then I'd probably get a current model and start having fun now.

stang2000

I have a 2000 V-6 Mustang convertible, bought it brand new February 18, 2000, now has over 83,000 miles on it and has no problems yet. The engine burns no oil and the car seems to be running better as time goes on.My experience has been good with the V-6.

btate2002

I would say go for it, however I would wait for the 2005's, if you are not in dire need of a new car right now. I considered trading my truck in on a V6 Mustang a few months ago, but I'm holding out for the 2005's. There are going to be a lot of new/redesigned sports cars for 05, like the Mustang, Eclipse, Rumored Pontiac G6 hardtop/vert, Solstice, and Corvette

I want to test drive them all, but the Mustang will definately be on my short list.

john_324

A thing to keep in mind with the 2005s is the "bugs" issue...Considering that this Mustang will be new from (almost) the ground up, there are bound to be quality control issues during the first year (if not years). Might be worth waiting a year or so just to make sure no major problems.

After all, this *is* Ford we're talking 'bout here... ; )

fdthird

I would have to echo that sentiment! Although it is great to be the first on your block with a new car there is also a terrible downside.

I've done it twice...once with a '79 Mercury Capri and once with an '84 Toyota van. Both experiences were disastrous!

snakerbill

I really need to buy a new car now, but I am afraid of the 04 Mustang because guess what will happen to its resale value in 8 to 10 months when the 05 hits the showrooms. I have even considered the new PZEV ZX3 for a fill in car until the 05 stang goes on sale. Opinions? All comments appreciated. That little car seems like a value at its discounted price, and it would only have to last a year....maybe.

ehaase

I came very close to buying a 2003 Mustang Mach 1 a few days ago. I think that the resale values of these limited production cars will always be quite high. However, Allstate would charge insurance premiums of almost $2,000 every 6 months.

snakerbill

State Farm charges me the same premium for any car I buy. What is with Allstate? My last Z28 Camaro had a smaller premium than my Acura CL, both cars no longer owned by me, but my GT 200l was cheaper than either of my last two cars. Not by much as I think they charge my premiums based on the cars price, not its speed. I now need to buy a new car and a Mach l seems ok to me, except I really want the 05 and I think I would be better off if I bought an inexpensive run around car until the o5's go on sale. I do however have a flawless driving record, and considering how many miles a year I drive that is a miracle, or blind luck. Find another insurance co.

ehaase

I later found out that Progressive would charge $675 every six months. However, I think I will wait for the 2005 Mustang GT, probably towards the end of the model year. It should also have around 300 horsepower with the 4.6L 3 valve engine and be a much more comfortable, refined package than the current Mach 1.

3point1v6

if you dont mind my asking....do you have a clean driving record and how old are you? i cant believe it would be that cheap to insure a mustang...but if it is then im interested in progressive...

ehaase

I am 39 and have a clean driving record.

andys120

U should definitely checkout Progressive, my agent suggested I switch to 'em after my previous co jacked my rates due to a minor collision claim($1500). Progressive saved me
$500/yr.

graphicguy

I think the whole point of the interior is it's similarities to the 60's, early '70s Mustang heydays.

I saw an '05 at the last autoshow in Detroit last January.

Not in the market, but if it's priced near the '04 Mustangs, they've got another hit on their hands.

3point1v6

yeah i would consider progressive. right now im not quite ready to buy a mustang...still have to worry about paying for college and that kind of stuff...but my insurance agent(nationwide) checked into how much i would pay for a 2004 gt and it ends up i would be paying upwards of $4000 per year. cant really blame them...young driver with a fast musclecar usually spells trouble...but i appreciate the info..ill have to check out progressive in a few years when im ready to get my mustang...

mustangnicki

Im 16 years old and my parents are buying me a mustang for Christmas.
I have a few questions and i am undecided about a few things!!

1) Do Mustangs come in Gray Leather Interior?
2) What do you prefer tan leather interior or dark charachol interior?

graphicguy

"1) Do Mustangs come in Gray Leather Interior?
2) What do you prefer tan leather interior or dark charachol interior?"

Those are questions you might want to pose to your parents to get their opinions.

john_324

Yes, Mustangs are available with dark charcoal gray leather, and as for personal preference of colors, it depends on the exterior color IMO. On the Ford website, you can play around with the colors and see what you like best.

Congratulations on the car; my parents never would have gotten me a Mustang at that age. But be careful with it; a Mustang is a lot of car for a beginning driver...respect its power, recognize your limitations and you'll be fine. Enjoy!

houstonman4

I am thinking of purchasing a 2004 Premium Mustang Convertible. I have been to two dealer lots and have seen two different color tan fabrics used for the convertible top. The first color is a dark tan and has the feel of cotton denim, the second tan color is lighter and has a synthetic look and feel to it. My question is what fabric is better? If owners of convertibles can tell me their story about the different tops, this would allow me to choose mine.

Thanks, a future Torch Red, Medium Parchment, Mustang Premium owner

ponyrider2

With the great incentives for Mustangs going on now, I am seriously thinking of buying a new 03(or 04) V6 Premium Mustang Convertible. My biggest dilemia though is the color choices. I can't make up my mind! I'm going with Parchment Interior and Top no matter which color I choose Any thoughts and or comments on these colors would be appreciated.
thanks, ponyrider2

3point1v6

cant really tell you what color to get. its all about preference and what color fits you best. personally i already know what color my mustang will be...

revdrluv

Sonic Blue would be my choice out of those two. I think it is one of the best colors Ford has right now and would better with the parchment top. Although I am not a big fan of red cars with tan tops.

graphicguy

Did you get what the dealer promised in writing from someone with authority at the dealership?

Not to rain on your parade, but using your dealer's math, your Focus shouldn't depreciate 25%/year. IF that's the case, then it would be worthless in 4 years.

john_324

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a Ford "PZEV"? Is this an options package for a certain model?

john_324

If it were me, and I were going parchment in/out, I'd get redfire. Blues look better with dark tops IMO.

3.1V6, so what's the color? : )

3point1v6

true blue metallic

brian3240

...on my 2003 Convertible, I got Tropic (dark) Green. It kinda reminds me of the '65 Ivy Green scheme. Too bad they killed my color for '04.

brian3240

After a few months with my '03 Convertible, here are a few options I wish Mustang would offer;
- power backrest tilt
- power passenger seat
- power seat/mirror memory
- autodimming r.v. mirror
- auto, split, heater control
- heated seats
- hidden or power radio antenna
- programmable keyless entry as in Focus (allows 1 touch all unlock)

Comments?

john_324

3.1V6, that's the best color IMO. : ) But then again I'm kinda biased...

For me, the Mustang is missing:

-A "GTS" option that allows you to buy the car stripped out, but with the v8 powertrain.
-A hatchback option.

Given where you live, Brian3240, I'll allow the heated seats option...but the rest of that list is luxury/sport sedan stuff. ; )

revdrluv

A GTS option would be outstanding. Especially on the 2005 with the independent rear suspension.

ponyrider2

well, everytime I think I like the sonic blue I find myself thinking if I bought it I'd rather have the Redfire. So that is going to have to be it. Thanks for all of your options

but......do you think I should wait for the new style 05's? what do you think the prices will be?

thanks, ponyrider2

hollier1

My son test drove an 04 mustang with the v6 pony package. He said it felt like it had very little pedal play, as if the pedal was close to the floor. When he punched it response was slow and the rpm's didn't jump up. He said it felt anemic. The dealership (salesman) took it into the shop and stated "something" on the throttle cable was broken or missing. They should have it fixed tomorrow. Any idea what may be wrong? Does the stangs have problems with the throttle cables?

Thanks,
Hollier1

snakerbill

My deal was made with the OWNER of the dealership. His math only concerned the first year, or until the 05 cars go on sale, and as I am a high mileage driver, I think to get 75 percent back for the years driving (about 40K miles) is a very good deal. Remember that the IRS lets one deduct 36 cents per mile of business use. You do the math. I will come out ok.

snakerbill

The PZEV is a Focus with a 145 HP engine, with 149 pounds ft of torque. It transformed the Focus into a car that runs like it should have in the first place, and my only complaint is the 50 series tires which make the ride jittery. I am going to change tires and wheels, courtesy of my dealer. No charge. Can you believe that??? I tried a Focus with the 60 series tires (Goodyear RSA"s, and it rode very very nice, and lost almost nothing in handling. It seems like the way to go, and, what the hell, its free.

sphinx99

Wow, that sounds like a good deal.

I'd buy a new Mustang every year if I got that deal

tomcat630

The 2004 Stangs are already out and are still SN95's.

Isn't this forum outmoded now? We already know the 05 is the next generation.

snakerbill

That is the reason I did not buy an 04 Mustang, and got an interim car, The PZEV ZX3 (04) I am waiting for the 05.

snakerbill

I would be happy to refer you to my Ford dealer. He loves people who buy a new car every year, and he even throws in free oil changes for the life of the car. Some dealers are just better than others.

sphinx99

Haha... what state are you in?

john_324

BTW I checked out that PZEV engine option on the Ford website...what a cool option; not only do you get better emmissions, but more power and torque! When does it ever work out like that?? : )

A Focus with that engine would totally be my choice for a daily urban driver if I needed one (I take public transportation to work, so a Mustang for the weekends is perfect for me)

snakerbill

Texas, where else?