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Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions



  • Hello to all; I just picked up my '02 Legacy wagon on Tuesday night,I think it's one of the quietest cars I driven in a long time. I went from a sebring convertible to this after riding in a friend's OB limited last winter. I think the legacy rides better.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181

  • stevekstevek Posts: 362
    Most of the time when you have a sun/moonroof the leak is caused by clogged tubes that run from the roof structure to drain the watter, usualy in the A and/or B pillars. Open the roof and try to locate these drain tubes, blowing air in helps most of the time. Be carefull DO NOT use 100lbs air blast when doing it. Hope this helps.
  • luck11luck11 Posts: 425
    I posted earlier that my I noticed a noise when turning sharply and dealer suggested replacing the entire rack. It was done Friday.

    When I went to leave the dealer, I heard a "groaning" sound when turning right. Head mechanic took it out with me and immediately diagnosed it as steering shutter. He said that it is likely some air in the system....not a safety issue. Recommended I drive it on the weekend, and if does not go away, return it Monday. Noise was still present on Saturday, but by Sunday, the shutter was gone. I was not evident this morning either. Next oil change, however, I will have to point out some stitching that has come undone on the rear seat.

    Its amazing how service differs from dealer to dealer. After having read a few posts in this thread on some lousy service depts, I consider myself extremely fortunate to have such excellent service from my dealer (besides the free donuts and coffee (not good for the waist) and the drives to and from work).
    Rubbing compound on a clear coats...... a "no-no". The dull appearance means you have essentially scratched the clear with the abrasives in the compound. I know at one time rubbing compounds which safe for clear coats were available, but not sure if they still exist. I have been using a product called Zaino for about a year and a half and love it. Initial cost is high, but it lasts years. The shine (wet look) and durability is second to none in my opinion and I used Meguiars and Mothers for several years prior. Anyway, they have a product called Z5 which works wonders for those fine scratches...takes several coats. Check out the Maintenance and Repair Topic and look for the thread Zaino Experiences for more info. I can't recall the web address off-hand but you'll surely find it in the above mentioned thread.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Robert: see if the dealer can remove and reinstall the roof rails, and seal it better this time. Going in from the outside sounds better - the headliner removal is begging for squeeks and rattles.

    Welcome, Paul, and congrats. GT or L? What color? Tranny choice?

  • anibalbanibalb Posts: 193
    Hey folks,

    It has been a while since I posted. I just found out that I cannot change a flat tire in my car because I did not get all the hardware necessary for it. Didn't get the wrench to remove the lug nuts. Thats "nuts"!!! I have to call the Dealer. But it has been a while since I got the car. I also realize that I never got the Torx drive to remove the cross bars. Glad I thought of this stuff before I needed it.

    On the other hand I just received my Subaru Mastercard and will soon be charging everything under the sun so that I can get credit towards Subaru dealers. Does anyone else have this??? I think that for every 3,333 dollars in charges you get 100 dollars in credit towards Subaru. Can someone tell me how the max. works? I think max is 2,000. So I suppose once you get there you can just spend some and start accruing. Is this the case? Opinions!

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Anibal: glad you checked, then!

    My torx driver was in the glove box.

  • FrankMcFrankMc Posts: 228
    I have had this card since '97 and have had no problems. You will get a "check" from the credit card company when you accumulate $100. You can accumulate up to 5 checks per year. If you go over you don't get any points until your anniversay comes around. You can also use for parts and maintenance. It's a good deal.

  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    Anibal - a footnote. Your anniversary as Frank mentioned would be the date your card was issued.
    And I think that there is a condition that if you max out prior to your anniversary, you don't get points. I might be confused with the terms before the revamp.
  • anibalbanibalb Posts: 193

    Thanks for the input. 5 checks per year based on the anniversary makes sense. But, isn't 2,000 the max. you can get? Because I suppose if someone keeps going that they can accumulate quite a bit.

    Also, I got a car seat for coming baby. I cannot fit it in the center of the seat. The base is too wide and the seat belt and buckle are too close together. Is there a trick? I saw another OB on the road and his car seat was in center. It even had those belts attatched to those hooks in the back. I need help on this... JUICE????? Thanks.
  • kate5000kate5000 Posts: 1,271
    I think $2000 is a max you can spend in one shot when buying or servicing the car at the dealer. It's true you can only accumulate $500 per year. I already maxed out on my card this year :-( :-(

    Each coupon has expiration date that is 4 years from date it was issued. This why $2000 max figures was derived (500x4). But even if you pull together coupons from your friends, spouse(s) ;_) and such, you stil cannot spend > 2000 at one shot.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Push that seat into the cushion, and I mean stand on it! Get a 2nd person to help, or go to a local dealership that helps with them. Sometimes they twist the base buckel a few times to remove any slack, and attach to that rear tether anchor if your seat has one (if not, kits are $15 or so). Tight is right.
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    Hey, anyone know the torque spec for the oil pan bolt?. Juice - I know you use a torque wrench for this. :-)

    I use a child seat in the back center of my 01 OB. Heavy blanket underneath, twist the base buckle (as mentioned) 2x, pull belt all the way out until the auto locking feature clicks in, belt the seat in place, place all my body weight on the seat while letting the belt retract and pulling it tight. No metal clip required. Gets pretty tight. Waiting for more seats with ISO-FIX hardware to hit the market. Come on Century, Cosco, etc!

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Drain plug: 17mm nut, 33lb-ft nominal. (factory service manual data)

    My RS has developed an odd hesitation in the midrange within the last 2 weeks or so. When using 75% or more throttle it doesn't feel tremendously down on power, but there's an obvious surge at an indicated 4700-4800 rpm that carries to redline and I doubt that there is a spike above normal. Instead I suspect that it is down on power below that rpm for some reason.

    I waited out one tank of gas to see if it was just poor fuel, but I've still got it. Think I'll reset the computer tonight and check for leaks in the air inlet plumbing...

    Anyone ever experience anything similar? Plugs are only 5k old or so, and yes they are the correct heat range and gapped.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I was applying a bit more torque, but not much.

    You can "feel" the washer crushing, then just go a little beyond that point.

    Colin: I would check the air and fuel supply. How old is the fuel filter? I'd also inspect the spark plug wires closely.

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    More details... car has 36k on it, cobb tuning cams since 24k.

    Stock plug wires, but new fuel filter at 30k. Hmm... actually I haven't checked the air filter yet. You would think it wouldn't surge at high rpm with a dirty one and I just cleaned it also at 30k but it's worth a look this evening.

  • anibalbanibalb Posts: 193

    I get what you are saying. NYGREG, I am using a neborn seat with a base. The base is wider than the space from the belt to the buckle in the center of the 01 OB. Also, to use the center space the only way is to pull the restraint belt in the top and back. Right? There is no lap belt on the 01 OB. It is made from the connection of the restraint belt coming from the back Is this right??? Sorry guys. Thanks for all the help!
  • brekkebrekke Posts: 304
    what is a fuel system clean up? Just an additive that you put in the gas tank?

    I don't know which additives are good and which are junk so I ignore everything.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I use Techron as an additive, usually with each oil change.

    But the service I'm talking about was more thorough. It was done at the dealership. They're supposed to flush the injectors out with high pressure, perhaps more than that as well.

    I'm not sure, but what they did certainly helped more than a bottle of Techron, and it regained its lost power all of the sudden, not gradually.

  • bigfrank3bigfrank3 Posts: 426
    Colin - most of the time when I have experienced what I think you are describing, it has been electrical. I have had coils do that, wires do that, and distributor caps (when cars had them) also do that.

    Juice - what the dealers do is run a pressurized container of highly concentrated solvent directly through the fuel rail. They operate the engine on _only_ that until it runs out, about 15-20 min.

  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    Our Evenflo infant 'base' is in the middle seat position. I put a piece of double corrigated cardboard at the rear of the base (helps keep the base at the proper horizontal level - some newer ones come with an adjustable base). As mentioned above, you really have to stand on it and twist the buckle ends to help make it super-snug. The seat should NOT be able to move or slide sideways.

    You can kind of move the middle belt buckles further apart by lifting the rear bench base a bit (look for the black pull loop).

    Can't wait to use our Fisher Price seat (when Brooke becomes 1 yr old). It has the tether anchor - which makes for one safe baby!

  • I got my first $100 coupon right before my 15,000 mile service in May of this year. When I gave it to the dealer, the service manager looked at it like it was written in a foreign language. He said "I've never seen one of these before, but I think you can only use it on the purchase of a new car." Luckily, I brought the letter that was attached to it which said you could use it for parts and maintenance also. While I was waiting, they called Subaru to verify. Hard for me to believe it's been around for several years and the dealer had never seen one before. By the way, the dealer was King Subaru/BMW in Freehold, NJ which is BMW only as of a few months ago. A new dealer, Freehold Subaru, opened up right after that.
  • tocatoca Posts: 147
    Actually Jon,
    this program changed about a year or so ago. Under the original program accumulated points could be applied towards the purchase of a new car only. Could not use for parts or service. I'm not 100% certain, but I believe it was a max of 750 pts per year over 4 years for a total of 3000 pts.
  • anibalbanibalb Posts: 193

    Thanks for that post. So I presume that you are using the seat belt up above and in the back. I just looked it over and if I install the base in the middle seat position, it covers all the other seat belt buckles. The middle seatbelt has 2 buckles. Is yours the same way?

    I am using a Graco and it has a built in height adjuster. For some reason it looks like it is a much better fit in the side seat instead of the middle. I will need to try it again I guess. And maybe move the other seat belt buckles to the side in case I have more passengers. Since the seats are leather I am thinking maybe I should put a towel at the bottom just for a little protection.

    I am thinking of tinting the windows. Is this really worth it? What is the cost? Any opinions help!
  • Tinting definitely reduces interior temps and generally cuts UV by about 95% (not sure what the glass does by itself). You can get anything for 50% to 5% tint with the 5% being the darkest. There are basically 2 kinds of material.. dyed and metalized and some combinations of both. Metalized (not necessarily reflective) is most expensive and is usually warranted for life against fading where as dyed is less expensive and may fade or turn purple over time. All states vary in what they allow. Check out local shops and ask for referrals as the application is everything. Clean your windows and your car before your tint application as dust and dirt can and will get under the tint. When tint it applied it is usually cut and fit on the outside of the window before being applied to the inside of the glass so clean the outside of your windows too. Once applied you will not be able to lower the windows for 3-5 days as the tint cures. Prices vary a lot but a rule of thumb is somewhere between $25 and $50 a window with less per window the more windows you have done. The tint is hard to remove once cured so be sure you make the right choice. Visit a shop or two and look at some of the cars they are tinting or better yet if you see a tinted car you like ask the driver where they had it done and if they like the tint job.

    Some useful sites

    bit - 2001 GT Wagon

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Jon: the card's been around for years, but the coupons are new.

    IIRC I paid $170 for 7 windows tinted at 35%, with SolarGard dyed film. Looks good even after two years, with no signs of fading or discoloring. Metallic films usually cost $200 or more, but the real key is the quality of the installation.

    Anibal: I'd really get help with the seat. Go to a Mercedes dealer, or a fire station. Lots of places will help you mount baby seats.

  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    Yes, the middle belt comes down from the roof and has 2 buckle points.

    We had the local Red Cross help install the seat - they offer free 'clinics' periodically here. Now that I know how to install it, I can do it myself. It does take some grunt work to get it really secure.

    They say that the center seat position is the safest for your baby, but if your seat can't be installed there, then either of the sides will do fine. Anything is safer than the front seat for an infant car seat!

    Our 'other' car (Saturn SL) has a crummy rear seat. We couldn't install our other base in the center position - it wouldn't secure well enough (slid sideways a bit). So, we had to install it in the side seat position. Along with a tightly wrapped up towel to firm up the rear portion of the base, it snugged up pretty good.

    I'll take a picture of our seat base tonight and post it for reference.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Pretty soon we'll all have a 2nd kid and the seats will be going on each side. :-)

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    re: bigfrank3 Aug 27, 2001 2:53pm

    I've got the factory powertrain warranty still remaining, surely the coil pack is covered if that turns out to be the issue.

    What about an ailing alternator? Voltage or current sag, I'm wondering...

  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    I would be very wary of "new" Subaru dealers. My wife and I both had problems with the quality of work and inability to diagnose problems at a new dealer. They had only been around a few months when she got her OB.
    We've since starting going to Flemington. They've been selling and servicing Subes for a very long time.

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