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Mitsubishi Grandis minivan

mtbiker1mtbiker1 Posts: 17
edited March 2014 in Mitsubishi
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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I sure hope it comes. Sounds like somthing smaller than a Dodge Caravan but larger than the Honda Latitude who IS coming over to the US.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    about time we get some of these leaner minivan type vehicles here.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I agree, regfootball. It IS time we got some small and leaner minivans smaller than the Caravan.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    caravans are fat bloated whales.

    My current fave minivan is the mazda MPV. Right sized, maybe a bit tall for my tastes.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    The Mazda MPV is VERY NICE and VERY COMPACT! But, when I decided to buy a van, we got an Odyssey. (Wife didn't like Mazda MPV) Another Question, When is the Grandis coming over or is it not coming over?
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    IMHO the Odyssey is among the most bloated of them all. The MPV is not 'very compact'...it has 90% the space of the bloated whales and is a more efficient packaging job.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    regfootball,
    are we the only ones posting on this board?
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    probably.

    I checked out the new Sienna....its pretty much got it all. Should be a huge hit.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    This discussion seems like its dead. The Honda Latitude is coming. (A micro 7-seat wagon)
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    where did you see the info on Latitude?
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/GRANDIS/

    actually looks interesting.......would this minivan make it stateside?

    Like the aggressive front end and floor shifter. Kinda of reminiscent of the Toyota Wish but maybe a little snazzier.

    Hope they bring it over.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    Nice to see there's a Grandis thread now. I started posting about it in the Honda Latitude thread as it had just been introduced and seemed like a more than worthy alternative to both the Latitude and Toyota Wish. Styling is the best of the three....tastefully aggressive...not too van-y or wagon-y....just the right blend. Size is perfect too....big enough to be roomy and comfortable but small enough to be nimble and sporty...not bloated like a "full-size" minivan at all. Close in size to an MPV (inch shorter, 2 inches narrower and 4" less tall) but proportioned much better...the loss of 4" in height means it loses that "van" look. Its also within inches of the Murano, the greatest difference being width, so it's not a small vehicle, but sized "just right". If they can keep the weight down, it should have a decent blend of performance and economy. The interior is a step above the Wish and several steps above the Stream/Latitude. I prefer the 6 seat version with 4 "captain's chairs" and the split-folding 3rd row seat. A six passenger layout makes the most sense for these vehicles as anyone needing 7 or 8 passenger capacity will gravitate to the larger minivans. Most reports have Mitsubishi going global with this vehicle, although the only specific mention I've seen about North America was in a J.D.Power-sourced article. I feel Mazda will probably grow" the MPV in it's next generation to take on the Odyssey, Quest, Sienna et al (all of which I consider too big, bloated, expensive and wasteful for our needs), opening up the door for it's Ford-CMAX-based Mazda4, and also for the Stream-Latitude, Wish and Grandis. To me, these vehicles are the new generation of wagon. Unlike Subaru, who continues to put out wagons based on the decades-old traditional wagon layout, the Grandis et-all blend the traditional wagon with the best mini-van features (higher driving position, flat floor, flexible multi-passenger seating) in a "smart-sized" package. They are the perfect combination of sportiness and practicality. The sooner they come to North America, the better.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    Came to this thread via the Honda Latitude thread, so didn't realize there WAS a thread (in Future Vehicles) and the the Grandis was labelled a "Minivan". It's getting harder and harder to classify vehicles these days, with all the permutations and blending (cross-breeding??!!) going on in the market. The Grandis does have a somewhat flat floor (there is a hump going down the middle, but it's a low, squared-off,flat hump)like a minivan and it does seat 6 or 7, but it's profile is more "tall wagon". Styling-wise, there's a little bit of Vibe/Matrix, Nissan Quest, Aerio, Murano but it all comes together very successfully. I guess you could call it a sport van (a term GM has coined for it's Transport/Venture replacements); an extended sport hatchback or multi-passenger sport wagon. regfootball called it a space utility wagon over on the Honda Latitude thread (which is in the Wagons, not Minivans discussion. Anyway, it must be getting extremely difficult for the Edmunds moderators to know where to slot some of these discussions! Whatever you call it, I think it's the best thing in Mitsubishi's lineup (well, maybe with the exception of the EVO VIII!). Let's hope we hear something soon about a definite introduction date for North America.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    Check out these pix:
    http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?f=news/200305/20/newcar04/01_b.jp- g

    http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?f=news/200305/20/newcar03/02_b.jp- g

    http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?f=news/200305/20/newcar02/01_b.jp- g

    from what I've been able to find out, the Grandis is an inch shorter, an inch narrower and 4" less in height than an MPV. Also virtually the same footprint as a Murano (same length/wheelbase) but 3' narrower and just over an inch less in height. It's available with AWD, in 6 or 7 seat versions, has a centre walk-through and CR-V-style flip up tray. I'll take the 6 seater sport version, Mitsubishi, if you're listening.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    http://www.worldonline.co.za/moto/moto_center_New_mo.612141.html

    Mitsubishi is going global with the Grandis, but haven't heard whether North America is a "definite" yet. I did read somewhere (still searching for the link) that they are definitely considering it. Let's hope so. I need six passenger (occasional) capacity but don't want a bloated full-size minivan(is that an oxymoron or what?!) or a bloated multi-passenger SUV. A Honda Latitude/Stream, Toyota Wish, Mazda4 or Mitsubishi Grandis (my fave) would be ideal.
    The MPV, while close, is too tall and van-ish and the V6 means fuel economy suffers.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Finally some photos!
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    I can't tell from the pics, and maybe I overlooked it in the text, but this is a 5 door w/o sliders, yes? Like the old Odyssey?

    Steve, Host
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    You're right, Steve.......the new Grandis (like the Grandis/Space Wagon it's replacing) has conventional doors. I guess, in a way, you could think of it (especially the 6 passenger version) as a kind of scaled-down Pacifica. I prefer the conventional doors to sliders....it loses some of that van stigma. It takes the best features of vans (flat floor, raised seating position, multi-passenger, flexible seating) and puts them into a sportier package. I see the need for the larger,, 7-8 passenger minivans but they are all too large for my purposes......a six passenger Grandis slots in right between the Toyota Matrixes and Siennas of this world and would fit my needs perfectly.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    I like 5 passenger minivans too (I got one in '89 and threw away the middle seat in my '99). The sliders are nice in my garage though after I squeeze out of the driver's door. But I could have lived with the old Odyssey style just fine.

    Steve, Host
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    The new Grandis is really just a new version of the old Expo (which never sold well). I like the idea, but somehow I foresee problems with introducing it here due to the close resemblance to the Lancer wagon and possibly stealing sales from the Outlander. However, I do think it would be a nice unique vehicle for the Mitsu line.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    Ingtonge18, the new Grandis is about the size of a Murano, only 3" narrower. While it may be descended from the old Expo, it is quite a different vehicle....much more spacious and it looks about a million times better. Good horsepower, torque and fuel economy in a versatile, nice-sized package.
    It's sized for someone who needs more room than the small wagon/hatchbacks (Matrix,Vibe,P5) but doesn't want a bloated, so-called "mini"van.
  • odmanodman Posts: 309
    As much as I'd like to see it here, it looks like comments by Mitsubishi executives show that they think the American market wouldn't be receptive to it. I still think it would do better in Canada, and since the CEO of Mitsubishi NA is Canadian, he should know better.

    http://europe.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=52711&a=a&am- p;bt=Grandis
  • nwngnwng Posts: 664
    should have bring this over instead of the lancer wagon
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    What I meant was the Grandis is the same exact concept as the Expo, just bigger and more refined (just like every car after 10 years of development). The Expo offered 6 passenger seating, a versatile interior, swing out side doors, and a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder, just like the Grandis. It was a neat idea and way ahead of its time. They should bring the Grandis over instead of the Lancer wagon. But since they have the Lancer wagon, they won't see a need for the Grandis. They are probably afraid to bring it over after the dismal sales of the Expo compared to the Expo LRV Sport (the 5 passenger version).
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    car executives are idiots.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I agree! The Grandis should come! I want a four conventional doors wagon/minivan whatever. I loved the old Odyssey, but didn't want one because I wanted more power from the little four cylinder.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    As long as they keep the weight down, the Grandis should have a good combination of power and fuel economy. I prefer the conventional doors as well, together with the lower, sportier profile. Has all the benefits of a minivan and wagon rolled into one (without the stigma of either!)
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    all the suburban moms won't let their husbands haven anything that's a bit smaller like the grandis and sporty looking. what would the neighbor wives say?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Next door, drives a Blazer, "Wow! How much did it cost? I don't care about fuel economy, all I care about is that I drive a Blazer that's bigger than your car! HA! HA!"

    the other neighbor, drives an Odyssey, "Wow. I bought an Odyssey because I was concerned about those mamoth SUVs running me over if I bought that Taurus wagon. Interesting car. Wonder if my husband wants one."

    Across the Street, drives an Excursion and an MPV, "I'm afraid you'll get run over by someone who drives a Hummer. Interesting car though. I may sell my MPV for one."

    Best friend, drives a Pontiac Vibe, " Nice. Now I don't need my Ford Explorer to carry friends. I'll just buy a Grandis and get rid of the Vibe. What a great little car this is!"
    And that's what the neighbors might say.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    ...the Grandis isn't all that little! It's about the size of a Murano, minus an inch in height and a couple in width; or about the same as an MPV minus about 4" in height. It's a bit bigger than the Stream/Wish (which are virtually the same size as each other). If Mitsubishi wants to promote it like the rest of their vehicles, they can promote the fact that with the Grandis, you can bring along even more of your cool friends for the ride!
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