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TSBs are issued by the manufacturer to communicate with their dealer service people. They do not mean that there necessarily is a problem. In fact, when you look at some of the listed TSBs, in particular the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 8th and the last, you will see that they really are pre-sale prep instructions for a new vehicle that the service people of course are not yet wholly familiar with.
By way of comparison, the Toyota Camry, had 11 TSBs in '04, following its update launch year.
Here is a link to the Minnesota Lemon Law:
http://autopedia.com/html/LemonLaw/MN_lemonlaw2.html
The statute is clear that it only applies where the manufacturer refuses to fix an express warranty issue.
Unless you could show the mileage issue is the result of an engine defect or broken part, and a Nox getting 19 mpgs seems pretty normal to me, there would be no violation of an express warranty. The fact that the car does not meat an EPA mpg estimate would never be an express warranty issue. In fact, all manufacturers disclaim any obligation to meet EPA estimates.
Your rear visibility issue could also never be a violation of an express warranty. It is just the way the vehicle is designed. When you put the seats aside in a Honda Element, the side windows are all blocked. That is not a warranty issue that is design.
The strut issue which is apparently a problem with a minor group of Nox's is being repaired. The MN Lemon Law only applies if the manufacturer refuses or is unable to repair after a reasonable number of attempts. If you only have 800 or so miles on your 'Nox, it seems hard to believe that you could have met the reasonableness standards.
Finally, dealers are independent. Manufacturers give them guidelines on how to deal with customer service courtesy. But in the end, the choice is theirs.
2.9% financing for 48 mo, or 4.4% lease for 36 so we may go purchase though leasing is what we usually do for my wife as she like something new every few years.
Anyone else here bought or leased one in Canada? Should I wait and see if the rates drop a little before mid August?
GM's taking a big chance with a 5 day supply of engines that have to travel 11K miles to get to Ontario. One freighter sinks and the line has to shut down. Stupid move when GM's Tonawanda plant in NY must be less then 100 miles from the Canadian Border.
Just-in-time yields no time at all (ISA.org)
Steve, Host
No word on any issue in getting the curtains so hopefully all will go well.
This is very true.
That's why China's economy is booming and we are losing manufacturing jobs hand over fist. Can't blame companies though...Labor is CHEAP there.
We took a Rendezvous out for a drive last weekend. Might end up with one as the deals are great. Not sure about the looks though, the Equinox is just so much nicer.
Anyone seen a NOX with head curtains yet? My dealer is suppose to get one but no news yet.
So, you're the idiot I keep running into on the highway. How many accidents have you caused with your reckless driving?
Relative to the Equinox, I am glad that it is capable at the higher speeds where horsepower comes into play more than torque. But I really wonder how bad the gas mileage will be at those higher speeds. I'm still poking around at 65 mph trying to get decent mileage like the EPA estimates.
We were getting around 24 MPG even on I-77 through the mountains. It's rated at 25 MPG hwy. I was impressed that a car that large could get such great mileage even at high speed and over hills.
My trip last weekend I had the cruise set at 80 mph from I-81 on the Tennessee state line til my I-85 exit at Cartersville, Ga. No big deal. Only reason we were only doing 80 was that I can't see the police hiding as well at night.
You're probably one of those people who drive slow in the left lane which. You're the reason for road rage. If people know how to drive safely while speeding, power to me and them.
thanks,
Steve, Host
Great deals on the 2004s so the Nox will be more for less in a way.
the cloth seats are very difficult to keep clean! the window buttons are still annoying, but at least i don't reach for the door anymore. i'm having a warranty alignment done today. for those that don't know, one alignment will be done under warranty before 7500 miles. it's in the manual. the passenger side rear window button sticks in the down position sometimes. that's being fixed today under warranty too.
the space is wonderful! i've filled up the entire back with junk on numerous occasions. i think it holds more stuff than my dad's 91 exploder. of course, he disagrees. no other problems to report-such as the strut or odor issue. i'm at 5000 miles already. i got my personalized NOX wyoming plates too! i did see somewhere it referred to as the EEK. i think NOX is better.
the power is adequate. i'm hoping for an ss version with the 3.5 soon. i've added a hood/bug guard and tinted the front windows as my only modifications. i still have the only nox in my town. the dealer has 3 on the lot but doesn't advertise them. they need to get the word out! so far, i do not regret buying the nox instead of the crv. i made the right decision!
That shocked the hell out of me when i found out,
I truly prefer the controls in the center.
Last weekend I needed a Sedan. So I rented a Mazda6 from Hertz. It has the buttons on the door. It also has the manumatic option. Meaning I pretty much steered with my left hand and was busy shifting with my right. I had to change my driving position whenever I wanted to work the windows. When you work a shifter, it is much more natural to have the controls in the center.
Also, when I came back to the car after it was sitting in the sun for a while, I wanted to quickly roll down the windows to cool it off before driving. In order to reach the controls, I had to close the door. So I was stifled for a few seconds. Poor me I know. But still, another reason it is nice to have the window controls in the center.
answer 2--the buttons do not light up at night-except for the on/off light of the cruise control button.
It's going to go down to the wire!
I can get GMS pricing (lucky me) and am looking to get an LT Nox with leather, MP3 and 17" wheels. The side air bags would be nice if they're available. The one I test drove (in Clinton MI) had them, but it seems difficult right now to find the exact combination of options that I want...