Honda Civic Si/SiR Maintenance and Repair

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  • kauai215kauai215 Member Posts: 190
    NOTE: I have duplicated this post from the regular Si forum. I't possible some folks might look here for solutions to problems, but ignore the other forum. Since most posters seem to confine their activity to the regular Si forum, I'll be pursuing responses to this post over there. Please join us over there. Thanks. :-)

    Problem #1: Squeaking clutch pedal.

    Solution: Clutch piston shaft lubricated. Problem not only solved, but the clutch pedal action much smoother than ever. Quick and simple. (Why on earth are dealers, as some report, replacing the hydraulic components?)

    Problem #2: Creaking steering at slow speeds (aka “coffin creak” :-)

    Solution: (Tentative) “Re-torque the damper shafts.” That’s Brit-speak for properly torquing the bolts securing the front struts/shocks. See further thoughts on this below.

    Regarding #2 above, I found the creaking noise unlike anything I could think of that would require strut replacement as some dealers have done as instructed by one TSB, apparently. Our ’02 Si creaked at low speeds and large steering deflection, such as in parking maneuvers. Low speed sharp turns produced creaking towards the end of the steering travel. We had this for some time, but it went away. Haven’t heard it in awhile.

    But we took the Si in for it’s first and only warranty service to correct a few problems that we accumulated over the first 33,000+ miles. We’ve subsequently learned that there have been a couple of TSBs that may address this problem. The first TSB recommended strut replacement, which at least one member here had done. I was skeptical that strut replacement was necessary. Apparently, the second TSB notes that at least one bolt securing the struts had not been properly torqued at the factory during assembly.

    Now THAT makes sense to this man. The creaking comports with something not being quite tight enough. Not so loose as to “clunk,” but just barely not-quite-tight-enough to “creak.” Our mechanic, an ex-Trans-Am crew chief (very, very good, in other words), pursued our “complaint,” found the second TSB, checked the bolts, and found that “Yes!” one of the locking bolts (gold anodized, he said) was not tightened properly. He re-torqued them for each strut.

    So, did that fix our problem? Can’t say, since the creaking had already gone away. All the same, he found “loose” bolts, and torqued them to spec.

    I’ll be surprised if this problem recurs.

    I love this mechanic; he’s a can-do, solution-oriented, honest professional. He’s the best, I trust him, and I’ll follow him to whatever dealership he goes to so long as he can work on our cars on the rare occasion they need attention beyond the work I can do.)

    Naturally, those who had struts replaced (probably needlessly) also presumably had the new struts PROPERLY bolted in, which solved the problem, too, but it likely had nothing to do with the new struts -- just proper installation. The Brits don’t have a good reputation for bolting automobiles together.

    I’d be interested in reading whether these solutions to these two troublesome problems work for the rest of you, too.

    Let me know, won’t you, please?

    I believe Honda corporation means well, but sometimes they need guidance, as do all of us owners out here who enjoy our fine cars and just want them to work, as I like to put it: as well as the design and materials permit. (Actually, that’s asking a great deal. I’m demanding. ;-)

    Kauai (a satisfied Honda Si owner this evening :-)
  • oldmansioldmansi Member Posts: 40
    FYI.....99/00 SI requires 91 octane..not regular unleaded 87.
  • oldmansioldmansi Member Posts: 40
    bought new and well maintained w/37K miles. lately, been hearing a weird noise from engine and noise increases w/speed. almost like a tinny sound (hard to describe). will bring to Honda dealer to have them check it out. car seems to run fine.. my mechanic seems to think its something to do with a pulley. sound coming from or near timing belt cover. anyone have any thoughts on what this could be??
  • vtekk00vtekk00 Member Posts: 3
    if its next to the pulleys.... then ur gunna need a valve spring adjustment, honda should do it for about 109.00 give or take
  • drewzledrewzle Member Posts: 12
    I am so pleased with this forum. I really should have been posting in here all along.

    1. The clutch froze twice when it was real cold this winter. I guess froze is the wrong word, it felt like stepping on a sponge. After the car warmed it returned to normal. (10 min)
    2. Condensation in passenger lens. Turning light doesn't seat right. (Damn potholes.)
    3. Glanced a deer. Lost a mirror. Picked up a couple of dents.
    4. Mice love my air filter. But I am persistant and it is clean.

    I beat the crap out of this car. It still runs well. I am good with washing it and chaging the oil. I wish the trasmission wasn't so close. Or a six speed. That would save big bucks on fuel. I always keep the car next to empty so no extra weight.
  • mitchiemitchie Member Posts: 2
    I bought my 02 civic used with 28000 KM on it and it was mint. the buy befor didnt drive it during the Winter and took very good care of it. After about 2 weeks of enjoying my ride i started my civic up one morning started driving and the engine started making a whining noise. To me it sounds like the alternator is on its way out the door. I took it into my dealer and they had someone look at it and told me that there was nothing wrong so i disputed, then they had the quality control guy look at it and he said their was nothing wrong with it :-\. I went in had a tech come and sit in the car with me, i started the car and the whining noise was there loud and clear at idle. The mechanic could hear it so i told me thats not normal, it wasnt doing that when i bought it, it is now, and the alternative to not normal is what??? He acknowledged that it was a problem and decided to look at it the next day. He looked at it and found that there was some kind of regulating switch that was reading in the negative so they replaced that thinking it would fix the problem and it has not. They have since called me and told that the noise is normal!!!! Can anyone help me out with this. My Honda is lowered with a body kit and i love showing it off but i cant do that anymore because my car sounds like crap now.
  • 2004si2004si Member Posts: 1
    Just bought New 2004 Si for $17K. Soon I noticed that the Torque and acceleration speed is not as good as 2004 Si that I test drove at the dealership. Also the gas mileage is about 25 MPG on the highway and and the steering is very stiff. This was car was sitting in dealers storage for over a year. Can it be related ? Is it the known problems.
    Thanks a lot
    Disappointed SI owner :cry:
  • redviberedvibe Member Posts: 9
    Yes!! I have the same noise. I have had several problems with my 2004 SI and I don't even have 12,000 miles yet. Had probs every since I got it practically. Anyway, about the noise, I took it into the dealer and they replaced the front struts. The noise that time was more of a clunking when I turned the wheel though. A couple months later the current noise you describe started. This time I took it to my old mechanic who told me it was definitely the suspension. I had to take it for the weekend so he tightend things up for me - which made the sound better - and he took it into a dealer he was friends with on Monday. Not sure what took place but when I picked it up from him, he told me the dealer said the noise was normal. honestly, I don't think the dealer mechanic heard the noise since it was tightened. so, Now a few months later (and noisier) I'm taking it into yet another dealer tomorrow to put my foot down.
  • redviberedvibe Member Posts: 9
    I know you posted over a year ago... but I'm still dealing with this noise you described. Got my front struts replace this past June - same sorta noise but more of a clunking. It was fine a couple months now it's doing this grating sorta noise as described by someone else on the site. Same deal - it doesn it when parking and even just turning the steering column. I'm taking it in again tomorrow. Just wondering if you got yours fixed?
  • redviberedvibe Member Posts: 9
    oh, and Honda has told me there is no TSB on this car (and this is Jan. 2006! I'm about to give up on Honda.
  • redviberedvibe Member Posts: 9
    I had to have the clutch master cylindar replaced in mine. I went in every other month to the dealer to get it oiled. They kept telling me each time that they were using better oil and I wouldn't be back. I finally took it into my old mechanic and he replaced the cylindar in one day. Problem solved! After ONE YEAR of dealing with the clutch! I'm still dealing with the suspension though. Dealer replaced the struts this summer. That lasted a couple months and now the coffin noise is back. Acutally it was more of a clunking before. Now, it's the coffin creak and it's loud. I'm taking it in tomorrow to a different dealer. i'm so tired of dealing with this car!
  • lotophagilotophagi Member Posts: 1
    Okay guys I have a great one for ya. I bought this car 28 months ago and for the first year it ran fine. After that I started to have some issues with the car. First the tires went and I replaced those. Then the Breaks went and I replaced those. Around the point of 18,000 miles there started a clicking noise in the engine. Well no one could hear it of course and Honda said it was normal. Well now I am driving down the highway and the car jerks and stops. Mind you I have changed the oil every 3,000 and had all applicable maintenance done to this car other then that. Well after my mechanic looks at the car for about 4 hours he tells me that 2 of the cam shafts are wearing and falling apart and that one of the cam shaft keepers is trashed. Along with that when this happened it bent something to do with my pistons.

    I am hoping that someone out there might be having similar problems. Seeing a this should never happen to a new car and I know I did not cause this damage, I am hoping to get the car replaced because of faulty manufacturing.

    Please let me know if you are having any issue like this and what your opinion is.
  • si2002ownersi2002owner Member Posts: 26
    Redvibe, i'm with you on this... or maybe it's not the same sound... well, you tell me...
    My problems have been a couple. I had this horrible sound coming from the clutch, like something needed to be lubed. This noise in mid 2003. Then at the same time this short creak/click noise will come from the steering column when applying a lot of torque to the front wheels (if the car is loaded with somewhat heavy items, or 4 adults in the car, or let's say racing). I have taken the car to the dealer since mid 2003 (i purchased it in june 2002). About the clutch, same thing than yours, just lubrication. About the other noise, dealer coulnd't find it. When my warranty was about to expire (last june) i took it to the dealer again, and they couldn't find it. So they noted on my file that i have taken the car some 5 or 6 times and they just don't hear the noise i complain about. So last month i took it in once again, until the mechanic in charge of the dealer went for a ride with ME riding, and he finally heard the noise. I took it in, and after one week i got my car back. They changed the struts (both) engine mounts, and clutch cilinder.
    The clutch now works like a charm. no problems at all. but the creaking noise it was still there.
    To be more precise on describing the noise, like i said it started at the steering wheel with a tiny vibration when riding it rough, and then it got louder and you can tell that it comes from somewhere in the front.
    Next week ki'm taking it again and we'll see what is all about...
    :cry:
  • poordadpoordad Member Posts: 1
    I'm a new '00 Si owner & interested in learning as much as possible regarding the "care & feeding" of my new "baby." From your reply it appears you have experience & knowledge on this model. Would you have any general advice or recommendations for a new owner to help maintain my Si (engine ect.) in "excellent" shape?
    Thanks in advance !

    ps. I have a used Grand Cherokee in my future. Any recommendations on best model year ?
  • tedee76tedee76 Member Posts: 1
    regarding #2.

    Though i don't have the 'coffin creak' problem, I have some clunking on my '03 Si. The clunk sound tends to occur when driving over potholes or otherwise bumpy roads. I am curious to know exactly what it is that was tightened if you know. I want to try to tighten it before I try to get struts replaced out of warranty.

    Satisfied, but can't stand the clunk... :confuse:
  • stork4stork4 Member Posts: 2
    I just installed a K&N air filter. I removed the air box, disconnected the electrical connector to the air box, removed the air hose, installed the panel air filter, re-assembled, noticed when I started the Si the Malfunction Lamp was on steady. Wasn't on before. Went back and installed the stock air filter checked the pins of the molex connector. Lamp still on. Re-installed K&N checked the connector pins, checked my work, lamp still on. Took a spin, got fuel, secured gas cap 3+ clicks, lamp still on. Anybody have a solution to my problem with the Malfunction Lamp?
  • stork4stork4 Member Posts: 2
    I notice my 06 Si is using little oil. About half quart
    2,200 miles. The break in was basically easy under 4000 rpm's for 600 miles. I do notced little gray matter on the dip stick but the oil seems clean. After 600 miles between
    4000-5000 rpm's. Haven't went over 5000 rpm's to date. 5000 once after break-in. This soumd about normal for break-in?
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    (We had 3 of the 02-05 generation) used oil until about 10,000 miles. After that we didn't really have to add any oil between changes.
  • redviberedvibe Member Posts: 9
    Sorry, I didn't reply sooner. Had to get the struts replaced AGAIN! Both of them were bad. That fixed some of the noise but I still have the coffin creak in the stearing wheel. Notice it mostly when parking and turning. I took it in once about a month ago and it wouldn't do the noise (of course) then, I took it when it was doing it and the guy laughed at me and said I was inventing problems! This was a different guy I was dealing with. Not going to him again. Anyway, the noise has now elevated into a growling noise in the steering... sorta sounds like it is strut related again. Could this be possible?!
  • redviberedvibe Member Posts: 9
    No to both of your suggestions. Had the clutch lubricated every two months for a year which obiviously didn't solve the problem .Replaced the clutch master cylindar and problem solved. Had the struts replaced TWICE so far and still having the creaking noise. Each time the noise went away for a couple months and came back. The second time they assured me both stuts were bad and they also put all new nuts and bolts and shafts and whatever and made sure everything was on ok. Noise stopped for a maybe three months and now back again. Lucky me!
  • junpgjunpg Member Posts: 2
    How about the steering rack? Both my struts and steering rack were replaced. Noise went away for about 6 months. Then last month, they had the strut bushing replaced. Noise is gone again (hopefully for good). Never found the need (yet) to get the cmc replaced.
  • qnzprodigyqnzprodigy Member Posts: 7
    My 2005 Si has been producing a noise from the left front side area at speeds over 65mph. It sounds like a whistle being blown. You can only hear the noise when all the windows and moonroof are closed. I wanna take it in for service, but I am not sure what to tell them? The sound does not stop even when i get it to higher speeds (100mph +).
    Can anyone give me any help in figuring out what is wrong with my car? Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
  • greenebjgreenebj Member Posts: 1
    I have an 06 Civic Coupe EX that up until now has given me no problems. One day I drove home from work and everything was fine. Later that night I went to go out and found that I could put the key in the ignition, but it wouldn't turn. I tried moving the wheel, making sure it is in neutral, etc.. Can't figure out what is wrong. Hoping that there is a fix that I can do myself as the nearest dealership is almost 2 hours away. It is a manual transmission and I have three keys (two regular and the valet), none of which worked. Does anyone have any suggestions? Any help is appreciated.
  • redviberedvibe Member Posts: 9
    I haven't had the steering rack replaced. I took it in about a month ago when it was a bad noise day and the guy driving around with me laughed at me and said I was inventing things that weren't there. Funny... I've never been wrong before! I'll keep that as a suggestion. Have to get the nerve up to go in again. I think I've had the bushings replaced. I know they said they replaced all the parts and nuts and bolts associated with the struts.
  • redviberedvibe Member Posts: 9
    I'm not sure what you are describing is the same creaking noise I've got. Weight doesn't make it worse. I notice mine when parking or turning slowly. I stil don't have it fixed and I'm tired of dealing with it. some days it's pretty bad though. Something is definately wrong. Did you get yours fixed?
  • jakeb1jakeb1 Member Posts: 2
    I bought a '99 honda civic, and there is a lot of play in the steering wheel...feels mushy. when i am at a dead stop, i can turn the steering wheel from side to side and it "clunks." when i go over bumps, i can hear something jarring...any ideas? the wheel is also turned to the right in normal driving, even though i had the alignment taken care of. any help would be uch appreciated!
  • pianistpianist Member Posts: 1
    We have a 05 SI. Not 7 or 8 months after the car was bought, the problems had just been building up. The first thing that was told is "you have been abusing the car, it is not Honda's fault"
    Well, they did nothing about it.
    There has been a noise is the back end, right after it was purchased, because of someone stopping in front when the brakes where hit, one side locked up.
    The passenger window got to where it would not go up or down
    It was taken in because it was wearing tires really badly. They said there wasn't a problem with the car.
    Now after the 2nd set of tires in a year and a half and only because of running over a deer, the car has been found to have a defect in the back. The mechanic found that it could never be aligned because of the defect so he had to find a way to fix it.
    This was not the Honda mechanic, but the one hired by the insurance company.
    We have been on the phone with Honda and they tried to blame the tire manufacture. The problem is that there is more than one tire company involved. Tell you something?
    After stating that attorneys may be involved, they started to listen.

    We own 5 Hondas at the present in our family and are growing weary of what we are finding out with this company and may have to have an attorney this time.
    We have finally figured out that the service techs are told to state on arrival in some cases "you are abusing your car"
    If you have had any of these problems, especially with tires wearing to fast, please let me know.
    Also, those of you who are having such problems need to let the ones who give Honda such a high rating a complaint because they seem to stay on top, but I am hearing a lot more complaints than seems to show in Honda's standing in the industry.
    I personally have owned 5 myself, not any at the present, so I love the car, but the service and the denial of responsibility is beginning to change my mind
  • qnzprodigyqnzprodigy Member Posts: 7
    They never said that to me yet. But i took the car into the dealership about a month and a half ago and have not stopped going back in. When my rear hatch lock broke they ended up denting the rear of the hatch and then trying to pass it by me(They used touch-up paint and a bad job of doing it). So i left it there and sure enough when i went back yesterday to pick it up. They screwed up the paint job. This is my first and probably last Honda. O ya i have a 05 Si also.
  • worrywartworrywart Member Posts: 8
    so i'm on the verge of buying a 07 Si. and you think its a bad idea... please comment, i take very good care of my cars and don't abuse them, so should i worry?? anyone could help me with this one....
  • qnzprodigyqnzprodigy Member Posts: 7
    You know if I had waited till now like you to buy an Si. I would spend the extra cash and buy myself a Mazdaspeed 3. If my Si has reoccuring problems and Honda continues to poop on me. Then I will, trade my Si in for that new Mazdaspeed 3 next fall. O ya they screwed up the paint job again on my Honda. This is the third time they repainted and still cannot get it right. I do not know why they employ incompetent service workers and managers.
  • djstreetdjstreet Member Posts: 3
    Hi All....

    Right now Im' having troubles with power (I think). When I depress the brakes, or perhaps have hte rear defrost on, or even turn on the radio, the RPM's will decrease. It's coming to the point when I'm running all these items at the same time the internal dashboard lights are all dimmer. If I look closely the daytime running lights dim when I press the brakes as well. i'm not sure where to begin diagnosis... I think I'm hearing a belt rattle when the car is first started and its cold (alternator region right in front fo the driver).

    The only thing I've done recently is add a stereo system. Only a little mini sub is running on my amp but I have connected directly to the battery.....Perhaps the contacts are worn?

    Any thoughts what this could be? thanks in advance.
  • harvey44harvey44 Member Posts: 178
    Where do I read new posts about the 2006 sedan? I know this is the wrong place. Can we start a discussion where people can ask about how to find things that were in Forums that are now closed? How do you start a new discussion?
  • wombala68wombala68 Member Posts: 1
    I just bought a used 02sir hatch and love it but now that it's cooler I need the front defog/defrost fan on. Switching this on lights the a/c button on and stays on even after pushing it. But as long as the dial for the heat control is on, no cold air is blown. As soon as I switch to any non-defog/frost setting I am able to press the a/c light off.
    Is this normal? I am concerned that if the a/c is on simultaneously that I'll lose mileage/performance.
  • clshahclshah Member Posts: 2
    Anyone know anything about a recall for transmission grinding going from 2nd to 3rd? Told my dealer about it as soon as i bought it and they said they couldn't see the problem.. Apparently others have? http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/558
  • barrettheadbarretthead Member Posts: 28
    007 civic si sedan, brand new, makes clunking or knocking noise when driven at low to medium speeds over bumps or dips. safety components all check out, noise still persists, honda says nothing they can do. very displeased with honda, might be my last honda, no ideas, any help?
  • eldainoeldaino Member Posts: 1,618
    its probably not a problem, just a finely tuned performance suspension. The si is notorious for feeling bumpy and and loud over moderate bumps, especially compared to the ex.
  • 06civicsi106civicsi1 Member Posts: 2
    I've put 23,000 miles on my 06'Si and haven't even had to take it in for scheduled maintenance yet- the car tells you when maintenance is due and it hasn't spoken up yet. I use synthetic oil, and have replaced that every 10,000 miles and the filter every 5000, that's all. The car has performed perfectly and is very cheap to own. I AVERAGE 29MPG in it and it does get more responsive(aka faster) after about 15000 miles. I've even taken it past redline several times... I'm not exactly sure it that's what abuse is-
    I'd recommend the honda over the mazdaspeed any day. Unless you like to pay for the gas and the engine that isn't proven- supercharged engines usually don't last. (Although a Mazdaspeed3 will beat you every time off the line - but then you don't abuse your car so you won't care...)
    just FYI - no paint problems or problems of any kind - it still looks as good as the day I bought it, and I live in Ohio!
  • kork13kork13 Member Posts: 90
    About mileage, I recently made a ~1500 mile trip in my new Si, and I actually got really high mileage... unusually high, actually... i got over 37 mpg 3 times, and am averaging about 29mpg overall. In general, I'd say I'm getting about 26 in the city, around 33 or higher on the highways.
  • themistoclesthemistocles Member Posts: 95
    only taken to redline a few times with 23k miles? Si's are made for high revs, you wont be doing any damage at all. You can take the Si up to 8500 without doing damage. I wouldnt suggest doing it everyday or anything, but the Si loves the high revs :D you need to get around 9,000-10,000 rpms to do some bad damage, which is why they put the fuel cutoff at 8500.
    Also, i definitely wouldnt buy the mazdaspeed 3, ive test driven it a couple times, it isnt nearly as fun to drive, and i think its one of the ugliest cars on the road. i dont even think ive seen one on the road here. They would have actually sold them if they put that turbo 260hp engine in the mmazda 3 sedan, not that ugly twinkie hatch. the interior is so dull, and shifting is a pain compared to how fun the Si is. I didnt get to try the leather interior one, but the cloth plastic one is terrible, the seats feel like cardboard. I absolutely love the seats in the Si, it was as if they built them specifically for me. :D
  • themistoclesthemistocles Member Posts: 95
    Hey i just put mobile 1 5w30 full synthetic in my 2007 civic Si. now when i shift from like first to second or second to third at like 3,500-4000 rpms it seems like the throttle doesnt respond as well. Its like when i hit the gas seems like theres a small delay. does the temperature outside have something to do with it? its like 85-90 outside.
  • themistoclesthemistocles Member Posts: 95
    ah nevermind, it went away, musta been from driving it right after the oil change along with the super muggy hot weather
  • themistoclesthemistocles Member Posts: 95
    hey when you turn the lights on your 07 si, it dims the speedometer and tach right?
  • kork13kork13 Member Posts: 90
    It can. it depends on how you have your brightness settings done up, it's those buttons on the left side of the steering wheel. Myself, i just keep it bright the entire time, but it can get dimmer if you set it to.
  • kork13kork13 Member Posts: 90
    Hey I was wondering when you all did your first oil change on your Si. I just hit 3000 miles tonight, and the 'Maintenance Minder' still says 60% oil life. Standard? I'm just not sure how often most cars actually need to get the oil changed. Thanks, all.
  • eldainoeldaino Member Posts: 1,618
    this doesn't sound right...even if you babied your car, i still think that at least by 10k, the service meter would have come on.
  • k5ldbk5ldb Member Posts: 62
    When my rear hatch lock broke they ended up denting the rear of the hatch and then trying to pass it by me(They used touch-up paint and a bad job of doing it). So i left it there and sure enough when i went back yesterday to pick it up. They screwed up the paint job. This is my first and probably last Honda. O ya i have a 05 Si also.

    Why would you write off Honda just because of one dealer's actions? It isn't like Honda did that to your car.
  • kork13kork13 Member Posts: 90
    So it's about time for me to do my first oil change, and was just curious if anyone sees it as necessary for me to do anything in the way of "winterizing" my car while I'm at it. I'm in Colorado Springs, so we get alot of cold/snow during the winters. We usually get first snow around late October, then it just doesn't stop snowing until March. I got an undercoating when I first bought my car, but haven't done anything with it at all (tires, fluids, seals, etc.) since then. If you think anything is necessary, any guidance would be appreciated. thx
  • dgussindgussin Member Posts: 3
    Hi all,

    The side moulding on my '03 SIR came loose a few days ago, and I'm looking for the stainless steel bar(s) that are affixed to the rocker panel which the side moulding clips on to. I bought the car off-lease and I guess the previous owner had the same problem and had the side mouldings attached using two-way tape and some kind of adhesive. Naturally this was a temporary solution and it has since failed. I have not been able to find these stainless steel bars ANYWHERE; each of the honda parts sites I have visited have shown the equivalent parts for the '04 Civic SiR, but they changed the design in '04 such that the moulding is screwed into the rocker panel (instead of being hinged on this stainless steel bar I'm looking for). Below is a link to the schematic for the '04 Civc moulding (notice the part labelled 16/18: it bolts to the rocker panel).

    2004 Civic SiR Moulding Side - Sill Garnish

    Does anybody know where I can get the stainless steel bars that would be affixed to the rocker panel that the side moulding clips onto?

    Desperately,
    Dave
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The dealer should be able to order those for you.
  • dgussindgussin Member Posts: 3
    You're right, they should, but they said that they weren't able to order them because Honda doesn't make the parts anymore.

    I later found out that the part I'm looking for is part of a kit and is for the "side under spoiler". www.handa-accessories.com stocks the whole kit but they won't sell me the pieces I need. So it's either $400 or I find some non-permanent way to fix it.
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