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Steve, Host
The Sienna has ALL of the best and nice features of all minivans and some new ones not yet thought of PLUS Toyota reliability. Who could want anything more?
NOT MSRP
I have pictures of my Sienna here: KGNW's 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited
I live in Danville, VA
The Limited is awesome! I like the wood trim, but it wasn't a big selling point for me. I got the 'Stone' colored leather, with Artic Frost Pearl. I have to say that I love this color. Other people who posted pictures warned that the true color doesn't come out in photo. Boy were they right!! In the right sunlight, it looks light silver! The wood steering wheel feels weird to me, but I'm sure I just need to get used to it.
The sunshade works easily and stores easily. I'm not sure how my 6 year old broke it, since it was a couple of days before we noticed it (she said she was afraid to say anything - poor thing, she should have just 'fessed up from the beginning and avoid having to worry about it). I'm betting that she was playing with it (long trip boredom, I'm sure). Anyway, the sunshade in question was the one in the very backseat, passanger side. It hooks on to a 'latch', and it was the latch that broke off. I'll update everyone when I finally get around to repairing it, to let everyone know how it goes.
(Also posted in the 2004+ Problems board)
Steve, Host
Thanks!
russ1928 - I have cloth in my Camry and leather in my Sorento. The leather is part of the package. It requires a bit more attention like cleaning and conditioning than cloth. We have 90 plus degrees here for over a week. I found leather is no worser than cloth. And you will love the heated seats in the cold climate region. I don't know if Sienna XLE Limited has heated seats. Can someone confirm this?
Finally, took a test drive in the new Sienna XLE with Pkg #8 (Leather seats et al) MSRPed at $31K+. The acceleration is nice but the engine does quite a bit of roar when pushed hard. Wifey liked the spacious feel and the leather seats but felt that the dash panel and all the buttons did not look in tune with the vehicle. The 60-40 split rear was impressive and I think that besides the size, it is the MAIN reason for the demand for the new Sienna. I liked the turning radius for a vehicle of this size. The wood trim gives a nice finish to the interior. The power rear tailgate was also a nice-to-have feature. The one touch moonroof was also a nice touch. The passenger seatback folds down completely.
Now for my peeves:
On tight turns, the Sienna corners like a boat. I did not like the excessive lean at all. Due to shape of the windows which sit higher, the blind spot check was a bit difficult. The control buttons are numerous and too confusing - all those auto-climate control things. The notched shifter needs too many twists and slides when changing from Park to Drive. The center console on XLE impedes going from back to front (when parked, obviously). Even with it's size, I still felt that getting into the rear seat was a bit difficult. The pinch protection on the sliders was awful IMHO. I placed my lower arm in the way when the slider was closing and I felt immense pressure, my arm turned about 30 degrees due to the force and *THEN* the slider backed off. I cannot imagine what that would do to a child's arm/hand/foot !! The salesman who had never tried that before, uttered "Oh maan!" when he saw what happened. I dunno if this can be adjusted at some level (maybe the 31000 page manual can tell us), but if not, that is an accident waiting to happen. The van is BIG, no doubt, and it shows when reversing. I had absolutely no idea where the rear end of the van was .. the rear window and side mirrors did not help either. Maybe that is just me from driving a car till now, but that did not install confidence. And what is with the flimsy interior plastic ?? The ones on the rear audio system and the $1.99 conversation mirror, sunglass holder: all that plastic felt cheap (especially because of the price one would pay!) The middle row seats are not true slide-by-side, you need to lift the seat and make it into a bench. The front grill looks better on dark colored models, but on the light colored ones ? The middle logo part looks like a small beak and the grill looks like a devil's grin :-)
So, what did we go with ? The Mazda MPV. But we will carry out that discussion in the "Toyota Sienna V/s Mazda MPV" thread ...
Enjoy the MPV. It is a fine vehicle.
The excessive lean, smaller windows, gated shifter and numerous controls I would have grown used to. But, the pinch protection, reversing paranoia, front grill and cheap plastic is something I can do without.
And later I found out that I should have measured my garage length before considering the Sienna. It would have been just too cramped in there :-) So, everything worked out for the best.
My problem is I've been spoiled with the comfort of the cloth in my 1998 Plymouth Grand Voyager.It's more comfortable than the leather in my wife's Caddy.
I also hear that if you have young kids, you're much better off with leather for easier cleanup of the ice-cream and Reese's Cup spills.
Steve, Host
It was much easier throwing the car seat covers in the washing machine than having to clean cloth seats in the van. When they spilled on the leather seats, it was easy to just wipe up the spills without worrying about staining the seats.
One other big selling point with leather is that it's easier to slide in and out of the seats when you enter and exit the vehicle.
We ordered a FWD XLE on June 25 with the GJ and CF options. MSRP was 35,511--our price was 34,610. It's not a great discount, but I was expecting to pay MSRP. We just received an email from our dealer to let us know that our production week is August 11.
Yupp! Yeah!! Our VW Passat got cloth seats AND they are heated. And NO! I have not yet had a fire in the car :-)
Ahhhh!!! Wisconsin winters have never felt so wonderful before ...
Don't all automatic trannys do that ? You absolutely HAVE to depress the brake pedal before shifting from Park to Drive.
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This is not a safety feature of the Sienna only. Any and all the auto-tranny vehicles have this "feature" :-)
* Key ring hole
* Controls for power doors (overhead console)
* Both glove boxes
* Center console
* Audio controls on steering wheel
Also do you like the change that the ignition key insert is on the steering wheel column, not in-dash, as most other Toyota's - (and on the previous Sienna) ?
http://www.homelink.com/program/first.html
It seems pretty straight forward. I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow. Good luck!
The price was set on phone and there were no surprises once we reached the dealership. They explained all the different functions. They were learning with us about many features of the sienna.
We are very happy.
Thanks for some very good advice on this board.
* Controls for power doors (overhead console) Yes
* Both glove boxes - No
* Center console - No
* Audio controls on steering wheel - Yes
We have not had a chance to look it up in the owners manual yet. Maybe someone has the answer. Thanks
Oh, I used the self programming instructions that were recently posted about the auto door locks combinations. Maybe those have affected what my doors do with the windows open?
I have an XLE Limited
I think that a DVD movie can be shown on both screens, as long as the vehicle is in park, but can the opposite be done, where the Navigation map is shown on both screens?
This would be very handy so the rear passenger could enter in the destination information while the vehicle is moving, which is currently not possible to do on the Nav screen for safety reasons.
Can the rear DVD entertainment system play music CDs like in the GX 470?
If so, can the rear passengers listen to one CD placed in the rear DVD entertainment system using the headphones while the front passengers listen to a different CD placed in the front CD player that is behind the Nav screen?
Can the rear DVD entertainment system play music CDs like in the GX 470?
Definitly YES. I have done it.
If so, can the rear passengers listen to one CD placed in the rear DVD entertainment system using the headphones while the front passengers listen to a different CD placed in the front CD player that is behind the Nav screen?
Yes.